The Clausius statement of the second law of thermodynamics: It is impossible to construct a device which when operating in a cycle, will produce no effect other than the transfer of heat from a low temperature reservoir to a high temperature reservoir without external aid (work being done on IT).
Corollary: It is impossible not to assemble a team (of software 'professionals') which when operating in a cycle (of software release or anything else), will produce no effect other than the transfer of software from a 'Bug-less, microscopic memory imprint' state to a 'Buggy Bloatware' state , consuming work (lots of IT) in the process.
No, it's not. The idea of quantum computing is to have bits which are 0 and 1 at the same time.
From what I've read/discussed, what you mention relates to the basic quantum computer being built. The ideal quantum computer uses 32 possible values (the 32 states of an electron) as the person you replied to mentions.
The ideal quantum computer should be able to perform computations in time dt=0 seconds.
Raj had some odd prejudice against folks from USA... or maybe whites, or maybe just anyone who isn't from India.
We have xenophobic bastards everywhere.
But not all Indians are like that.
There are some who are quite the opposite as many may have noticed. My point is "There are rotten apples (for the want of a better anology) in every wicker basket just as there are idiots and xenophobic bastards in every country, just as incompetents rule most of this earth." Don't consider them to be representatives of everyone in that country.
That said, I remember what my Thermodynamics' professor said about Indians (he's Indian too)..
He said, "Most Indians are Quasi-Static processes content in moving from one equilibrium state to another with infinitesimal change".
I thought the whole thing smelled like a scam to get really cheap computer help and possibly to get india a little publicity for
recruting teenage genius hackers.
You're not off the mark by much.
We in India (the educated persons) are disenchanted with the government and 50+ years of freedom have got us not far from nowhere.
The Govt. does not have much to cheer for and neither do we. To steer our (read everyone) attention from their screw-ups, the govt is hyping Information Technology and "Indians are so darn good at it" kind of crap.
The whole thing is a scam
Really intelligent Indians rarely work in the IT sector (yep - thats what they call it). Most of the geniuses do research etc. e.g. I know this guy who is 23 and he is an authority on the butterflies found in the Indian subcontinent. He has written a book and has tremendous knowledge when it comes to his subject.
"Hacking, spreading viruses are much bigger criminal offenses in cyber terrorism than pornography," Since when did that become a crime?
Well, we in India aren't allowed By LAW to possess explicit pornography in any form what so ever. Believe it or not, we're punishable by 2 years RI.
Mehta is a DUMB ASS SUIT.
He knows very little of computers (from what I kno w of him) but manages to be clicked with the right people in the right places.
India is hiring 15-19 year olds who say they can break into a computer in five minutes to
install firewalls and configure servers? The only reason I could see to hire some 16-19 year old 'hackers' is to get cheap and
semi-knowledgable labor.
They don't pay them much except paying for their internet costs (which are pretty high in India).
The people in charge are b'crats (read idiots).
The real HACKERS (take the meaning mentioned in the Jargon File Jargon) don't work or associate themselves with the GOVT.
Most of them go to institutes like the Tata Institute of Fundamental Research, IISc Banglore et al. The next time you read anything about Mehta, take it with a pinch nay a sack of salt .
But profound insight - not really. Non-popular Music specifically is mostly angst ridden and personally boring.
I agree. But, the people who sing/perform these angst ridden songs are considered to be 'genius' (correct the usage of the word - I can't recall the plural) when the fact remains most of these things are like patches to software to make sure the program works!.
Many 'geeks' say the mainstream (popular-at-school people) imitate pop artists. Well, don't the 'geeks' try hard to imitate death/heavy/whatever metal artists? It is only a matter of choice.
So quit bragging about your ardent devotion to death metal over pop, Clinton, Grow up, mature a little.
There is no population explosion you dumb fuck. No wonder no one will talk to you. Hippy.
And I guess nobody exists outside the US for you.
Did your Geography teacher tell you of places like India (a little over 1 billion), Pakistan (don't know/care), China (over 1 billion) etc. where they can't cope with the FUCKING population explosion? Wait a minute. You never went to school did you?
Most of the programming languages are, IMHO, absolute crap. They kill your creativity.
What are your opinions about this?
Also, have you ever tried PROLOG or LISP?
If you have, how do you think they compare with the others?
NB:This is meant to gain an insight into your mind, not for my information (I have tried everything I've asked you about).
Secondly, as someone posted earlier, what do you think about this PEER driven materialistic society? Don't get me wrong. I'm not a Sadhu on his way to Nirvana.
The point is I'm 17 and I find that most of the people around me are un-interested in matters like global warming, pollution, the population explosion etc. All they really care about are Babes, money, booze, sex, bitching about how Engineering college sucks and the works.
Which side of the fence do you belong to?
If you do belong to mine, have you managed to deal with this (in your own mind?).
I guess it does come down to asking the child what he/she wants. I'm willing to bet any child who shows prodigy-grade
talents is going to want to play sometimes (don't we all?).
Your suggestion seems flawed.
Basically, kids are too small and immature to understand what is best for them. At the same time, the teacher might feel something is best for the kid, but it may seem totally irrelevent to someone else.
I think I was similar to you (going by your description) when I was a child. I hated everyone, but I kept doing my own stuff while doing what others did too. I played 9 different sports and yet I knew quite a bit of Quantum Mechanics and Special Relativity by the 7th grade.
It isn't too difficult to pick anything up anytime later. But you are a child only once. You must experience evey emotion before you grow up.
Unless the kid plays sports, watches TV (some), interacts with other kids his age, he is going to miss a lot of those emotions. He won't be 'balanced'. He may not understand it now, but he will later. Besides, he can always continue doing what he likes (like I continued reading Physics and Biology).
Unless he's mature enough to make his own decisions, his guardians/parents must make sure he gets to feel every emotion including pain and anguish - its very important.
Taking him out to the beach etc. etc. are important and should be done. It is important.
Just make sure (if you can) that he won't wake up one day, 21 years old, wondering why he never enjoyed himself, hating what he's been doing all along, hating his life.
About the topics, I'd suggest QUANTUM MECHANICS / FIELD THEORY / COMPUTING. I am against teaching him computers because I feel it will restrict his intellectual abilities to computers only. Teach him a little of everything - Biology, Physics, Chemistry, Math, English, His mother tongue (or father tongue depending on where you are), History, Geography - the works. Teach him all a normal child not necessarily his age would learn. It will help develope him further. Who knows, the kid may be better at literature than anything else. Teach him everything you can at his pace. Just make sure he's enjoying it and knows what enjoyment means. Make sure he doesn't burn out.
But it's pointless to argue the merits. Nuclear power is on its way out. Ah well. Hopefully we'll get serious about wind
before long.
I agree.
Wind power, solar energy, tidal energy are the only obvious solutions that come to mind.
Ofcourse, even here, you are only converting forms of energy. This will cease being feasible some day due to our ever-increasing demand for energy, and we'll die or go to some other place to suck it dry. The only long term solution (really long term) seems to be "USE LESS ENERGY/POWER".
But what am I doing?
People in power don't visit slashdot.
They don't know about the part of the net that isn't the web.
I agree.
Microsoft is actually creating a hole for itself.
Every software company can not and will not get certification from MS.
If I use a product and it doesn't work in MS OSs, I'm going to change the freakin OS, not the product which works damn well for me. (Provided its important). So isn't MS screwing itself?
We could even have a galaxy of Butts. They could even have a "Whose butt is it anyway" contest That would be nice. Especially if you got to compare with the real thing - standing on a stage 5 feet from you.
In the words of Viceroy Nute Gunray: You assume too much. I'm obviously more devious that you expected.
Wait till I take over the world. Then, people won't have to strive towards the goal of Linux on every desktop The first thing I'll order as the RULER OF THE WORLD will be a pre-emptive nuclear strike on Redmond. What will Management do without the active guidance, devastatingly superior technology and tech support? They'll probable nail their nuts to Windows OEM packs and install Linux. I'm shrewd.
Bimbos use vi. Geek girls use emacs. And I suppose you use output redirection to code magnificent applications that could change the world... if only you could learn to back it up GET STUFFED - Bigots like you belong in Pakistan and Afghanistan (Or even The Communist Party in China ).
Your post makes you look like someone sucking up to the suits!! People still write code because they need it (and think others may too). Concentrate on the technology, not marketing (lets leave that to people like ESR if we want it at all) If people want this, they'll use it. If not, they won't use it - its that simple
That, and encrypt everything before storing it on servers with... ummm. maybe a 204800000000 byte key (or whatever) But seriously, encryption is a must if you have any data worth absolutely anything to anyone.
I disagree. One of the major advantages Linux has over M$ products and even some flavours of UNIX is its ability to work on spartan hardware. It makes sense to use cheaper stuff. However, if you plan to use defective DIMMs on Mission Critical machines, you probable have some defective ones in your head. Its up to you (just like everything else with Linux ). If you want it, use it. If you don't, good for you. This is very good news for people in places like India (Where I come from) where the cost of 32MB Ram (EDO RAM) is about 1/3rd of the average person's salary.
Hackito Ergo Sum. Liberte, Egalite, Fraternite, Caffinate.
Nope.
I come from a country where people die of numerous diseases and starvation because the government being full of dope heads like you (who can't see beyond IT) does not invest in research and developement of irrigation facilities.
Are you nuts?
He comes from a state where, unfortunately, farmers commit suicide due to droughts and what not. If you ask me, moving around with a Laptop sucks in such situations..
Ans besides, he's all HYPE>>>>
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The Clausius statement of the second law of thermodynamics: It is impossible to construct a device which when operating in a cycle, will produce no effect other than the transfer of heat from a low temperature reservoir to a high temperature reservoir without external aid (work being done on IT).
Corollary: It is impossible not to assemble a team (of software 'professionals') which when operating in a cycle (of software release or anything else), will produce no effect other than the transfer of software from a 'Bug-less, microscopic memory imprint' state to a 'Buggy Bloatware' state , consuming work (lots of IT) in the process.
Now you know what IT is.
No, it's not. The idea of quantum computing is to have bits which are 0 and 1 at the same time.
From what I've read/discussed, what you mention relates to the basic quantum computer being built. The ideal quantum computer uses 32 possible values (the 32 states of an electron) as the person you replied to mentions.
The ideal quantum computer should be able to perform computations in time dt=0 seconds.
Raj had some odd prejudice against folks from USA... or maybe whites, or maybe just anyone who isn't from India.
We have xenophobic bastards everywhere.
But not all Indians are like that.
There are some who are quite the opposite as many may have noticed.
My point is "There are rotten apples (for the want of a better anology) in every wicker basket just as there are idiots and xenophobic bastards in every country, just as incompetents rule most of this earth."
Don't consider them to be representatives of everyone in that country.
That said, I remember what my Thermodynamics' professor said about Indians (he's Indian too)..
He said, "Most Indians are Quasi-Static processes content in moving from one equilibrium state to another with infinitesimal change".
I thought the whole thing smelled like a scam to get really cheap computer help and possibly to get india a little publicity for recruting teenage genius hackers.
You're not off the mark by much.
We in India (the educated persons) are disenchanted with the government and 50+ years of freedom have got us not far from nowhere.
The Govt. does not have much to cheer for and neither do we.
To steer our (read everyone) attention from their screw-ups, the govt is hyping Information Technology and "Indians are so darn good at it" kind of crap.
The whole thing is a scam
Really intelligent Indians rarely work in the IT sector (yep - thats what they call it). Most of the geniuses do research etc. e.g. I know this guy who is 23 and he is an authority on the butterflies found in the Indian subcontinent. He has written a book and has tremendous knowledge when it comes to his subject.
"Hacking, spreading viruses are much bigger criminal offenses in cyber terrorism than pornography,"
Since when did that become a crime?
Well, we in India aren't allowed By LAW to possess explicit pornography in any form what so ever.
Believe it or not, we're punishable by 2 years RI.
Mehta is a DUMB ASS SUIT.
He knows very little of computers (from what I kno w of him) but manages to be clicked with the right people in the right places.
India is hiring 15-19 year olds who say they can break into a computer in five minutes to install firewalls and configure servers? The only reason I could see to hire some 16-19 year old 'hackers' is to get cheap and semi-knowledgable labor.
They don't pay them much except paying for their internet costs (which are pretty high in India).
The people in charge are b'crats (read idiots).
The real HACKERS (take the meaning mentioned in the Jargon File Jargon) don't work or associate themselves with the GOVT.
Most of them go to institutes like the Tata Institute of Fundamental Research, IISc Banglore et al.
The next time you read anything about Mehta, take it with a pinch nay a sack of salt
.
But profound insight - not really. Non-popular Music specifically is mostly angst ridden and personally boring.
I agree. But, the people who sing/perform these angst ridden songs are considered to be 'genius' (correct the usage of the word - I can't recall the plural) when the fact remains most of these things are like patches to software to make sure the program works!.
Many 'geeks' say the mainstream (popular-at-school people) imitate pop artists. Well, don't the 'geeks' try hard to imitate death/heavy/whatever metal artists? It is only a matter of choice.
So quit bragging about your ardent devotion to death metal over pop, Clinton, Grow up, mature a little.
This guy deserves a 6 for this comment.
But he won't get it will he?
Nope. SlashBLOT reeks of geeks turned mods.
There is no population explosion you dumb fuck. No wonder no one will talk to you. Hippy.
And I guess nobody exists outside the US for you.
Did your Geography teacher tell you of places like India (a little over 1 billion), Pakistan (don't know/care), China (over 1 billion) etc. where they can't cope with the FUCKING population explosion?
Wait a minute. You never went to school did you?
Most of the programming languages are, IMHO, absolute crap.
They kill your creativity.
What are your opinions about this?
Also, have you ever tried PROLOG or LISP?
If you have, how do you think they compare with the others?
NB:This is meant to gain an insight into your mind, not for my information (I have tried everything I've asked you about).
Secondly, as someone posted earlier, what do you think about this PEER driven materialistic society?
Don't get me wrong. I'm not a Sadhu on his way to Nirvana.
The point is I'm 17 and I find that most of the people around me are un-interested in matters like global warming, pollution, the population explosion etc. All they really care about are Babes, money, booze, sex, bitching about how Engineering college sucks and the works .
Which side of the fence do you belong to?
If you do belong to mine, have you managed to deal with this (in your own mind?).
Thats it.
Cheers
I guess it does come down to asking the child what he/she wants. I'm willing to bet any child who shows prodigy-grade talents is going to want to play sometimes (don't we all?).
Your suggestion seems flawed.
Basically, kids are too small and immature to understand what is best for them.
At the same time, the teacher might feel something is best for the kid, but it may seem totally irrelevent to someone else.
I think I was similar to you (going by your description) when I was a child. I hated everyone, but I kept doing my own stuff while doing what others did too. I played 9 different sports and yet I knew quite a bit of Quantum Mechanics and Special Relativity by the 7th grade.
It isn't too difficult to pick anything up anytime later. But you are a child only once. You must experience evey emotion before you grow up.
Unless the kid plays sports, watches TV (some), interacts with other kids his age, he is going to miss a lot of those emotions. He won't be 'balanced'.
He may not understand it now, but he will later.
Besides, he can always continue doing what he likes (like I continued reading Physics and Biology).
Unless he's mature enough to make his own decisions, his guardians/parents must make sure he gets to feel every emotion including pain and anguish - its very important.
Taking him out to the beach etc. etc. are important and should be done. It is important. Just make sure (if you can) that he won't wake up one day, 21 years old, wondering why he never enjoyed himself, hating what he's been doing all along, hating his life. About the topics, I'd suggest QUANTUM MECHANICS / FIELD THEORY / COMPUTING. I am against teaching him computers because I feel it will restrict his intellectual abilities to computers only. Teach him a little of everything - Biology, Physics, Chemistry, Math, English, His mother tongue (or father tongue depending on where you are), History, Geography - the works. Teach him all a normal child not necessarily his age would learn. It will help develope him further. Who knows, the kid may be better at literature than anything else. Teach him everything you can at his pace. Just make sure he's enjoying it and knows what enjoyment means. Make sure he doesn't burn out.
Good luck to you.
But it's pointless to argue the merits. Nuclear
power is on its way out. Ah well. Hopefully
we'll get serious about wind
before long.
I agree. Wind power, solar energy, tidal energy are the
only obvious solutions that come to mind.
Ofcourse, even here, you are only converting forms of energy. This will cease being feasible some day due to our ever-increasing demand for energy, and we'll die or go to some other place to suck it dry. The only long term solution (really long term) seems to be "USE LESS ENERGY/POWER".
But what am I doing? People in power don't visit slashdot. They don't know about the part of the net that isn't the web.
I agree.
Microsoft is actually creating a hole for itself.
Every software company can not and will not get certification from MS.
If I use a product and it doesn't work in MS OSs, I'm going to change the freakin OS, not the product which works damn well for me. (Provided its important). So isn't MS screwing itself?
I just saw something that looked like Liz Hurley.
Occam's razor - it MUST have been Liz Hurley. Will post remaining later
Occam's Razor need not apply to everything.
Many a times, it is the 'not the simplest' solution which it the correct one.
We could even have a galaxy of Butts.
They could even have a "Whose butt is it anyway" contest
That would be nice. Especially if you got to compare with the real thing - standing on a stage 5 feet from you.
Its just a skull! So what? Would it make a difference if it were shaped like my butt? (Anyone's butt for that matter).
In the words of Viceroy Nute Gunray: You assume too much.
I'm obviously more devious that you expected.
Wait till I take over the world. Then, people won't have to strive towards the goal of Linux on every desktop
The first thing I'll order as the RULER OF THE WORLD will be a pre-emptive nuclear strike on Redmond. What will Management do without the active guidance, devastatingly superior technology and tech support? They'll probable nail their nuts to Windows OEM packs and install Linux.
I'm shrewd.
Who the fuck was Gunray?
Bimbos use vi. Geek girls use emacs. ... if only you could learn to back it up
And I suppose you use output redirection to code magnificent applications
that could change the world
GET STUFFED - Bigots like you belong in Pakistan and Afghanistan
(Or even The Communist Party in China ).
Your post makes you look like someone sucking up to the suits!!
People still write code because they need it (and think others may too).
Concentrate on the technology, not marketing (lets leave that to people like ESR if we want it at all)
If people want this, they'll use it.
If not, they won't use it - its that simple
That, ... ummm. maybe a 204800000000 byte key (or whatever) But seriously, encryption is a must if you have any data worth absolutely anything to anyone.
and encrypt everything before storing it on servers with
I disagree.
One of the major advantages Linux has over M$ products and even some flavours of UNIX is its ability to work on spartan hardware.
It makes sense to use cheaper stuff. However, if you plan to use defective DIMMs on Mission Critical machines, you probable have
some defective ones in your head.
Its up to you (just like everything else with Linux ). If you want it, use it.
If you don't, good for you.
This is very good news for people in places like India (Where I come from) where the cost of 32MB Ram (EDO RAM) is about 1/3rd
of the average person's salary.
Hackito Ergo Sum.
Liberte, Egalite, Fraternite, Caffinate.
Nope. I come from a country where people die of numerous diseases and starvation because the government being full of dope heads like you (who can't see beyond IT) does not invest in research and developement of irrigation facilities.
Are you nuts? He comes from a state where, unfortunately, farmers commit suicide due to droughts and what not. If you ask me, moving around with a Laptop sucks in such situations ..
Ans besides, he's all HYPE>>>>