Well, you could just say "we're a business, so if we put it in our contract it's not censorship". I (and presumably you) don't like that, though, because soon everyone is doing it and I can't view any porn (I mean, "do breast cancer research").
So here's what you do:
Setup 10 kiosks. Make 3 of them "adult" (meaning they have no filter and you must present proof of age before using) and 7 of them "non-adult" (meaning everyone can use them but content is filtered--possibly over-zealously). You can put gradations in there like "anyone can use it but the session is logged" or whatever you want.
Objection: But underage kids can just get an overage kid to log them onto the adult kiosk. Response: Yes, and that same overage kid could buy them cigarettes, beer, R-rated movie passes, etc.
Objection: But then underage kids can't do research without a parent or guardian.
Response: We're talking about a laundromat, right? --
"It's a pretty interesting debate - how do national laws apply to the Internet?"
They don't. If France wants to block Nazi-related auctions (and what a stupid gesture that would be), then they have to tell ISPs in France to filter, force French citizens to use filters or other apply there silly laws only to the French.
If you think otherwise, think what would happen if China decided to apply it's censorship laws to cnn.com. --
Let's say I was an ISP. And let's say I setup a DNS server such that my customers could use any domain name they wanted, but only locally. That is, Joe Schmoe could call his website www.microsoft.com, but only people pointing to my DNS server would resolve that name to his page.
Can Microsoft sue either Joe or me for trademark infringment? Wouldn't this be the same as if I ran a "Mystery Train" restaurant and gave the diner's real-life but only-locally-used names like "Davy Crockett", "Bill Gates", etc? --
"Where do I sign up??" "I gotta get one of these"! "*drool*"
If you want the illusion of a fast machine, put a worn-out batter in your watch and see your clock-cyles per "second" soar. If you want something stable and useful, go on eBay and buy some "obsolete" machines for under $500. --
There's no proof that you are paying them for the albums that have been produced on their current label.
I guess you didn't visit the site. There a form to fill out where you can specify an album or title you especially like. In any case, some artists have no previous label. Also the "paying...for the enjoyment that you get out of seeing them live" is the same the ticket price--which ALSO largely goes to the label. --
I agree that Britney Spears, Ricky Martin, etc (even Eminem) have been over-marketed. I also have a gut feeling that I am owed some compensation for this. However, upon careful reflection of the sentence I realize that changing radio stations or inserting a tape or CD is very very easy, even inside a car. --
Can see total contribs to date for individual artists
Can contribute via credit card
Marketspeak free (the fine print re: credit card fees is refreshingly clear and frank)
Tip amounts are free-form entry (i.e. no "$10, $100 or $1000" drop down)
Can leave message to send to artist (of course proof that they read it is missing, but whaddya gonna do)
Very simple and fast site
Some of the music I own is so good I'd be willing to use a site like this to tip even after buying the album.
I have to wonder though: What do the artist's contracts look like? Do they have to split these tips with their labels because they are revenues generated from jointly produced work? I can see how they'd get around this if I were tipping a band member (just a person-to-person transaction). But I'm tipping by band name--not really the same thing. --
Copyright schmopyright, the crux of the problem is right here:"...the RIAA is now ready to recommend to Congress that the revision be stricken from the books..."
Congress acting on the recommendation of the RIAA? The tail is wagging the dog here. Instead of faxing/emailing/calling/talking to politicians asking them to reverse this, overturn that, block the other, we should be telling them to stop listening to lobbyists, start thinking for yourselves. --
We want to know what Carnivore does and how. Having some hand-picked university reiview gives me zero confidence. Therefore I (or someone like me) will just re-request the information using the FOIA--and it has to be done all over.
Why not just post the entire source code on the Internet? If what they are doing is so secure and trustworthy, surely everyone can look at it to no detriment to the FBI. --
*sobbing* I thought there were no sane people left on Slashdot, they were all here 2 years ago, but then I looked around and they were gone...thank god you finally showed up. Save me! --
Not being able to boot can be a symptom of either hardware or software. If the problem is hardware it should be fixed. If the problem is software, VA should say "bite me". In neither case should it take 2.5 weeks to get back a partial server.
And actually, if this is a software problem, using RedHat probably wouldn't fix it. Booting is just lilo and the kernel, neither of which is distro-specific. --
I just don't see TWM being used on a PDA. For crying out loud, the text was unreadable and the title-bars enormous (relative the screen size).
On the other hand, get a few apps (will they be called ApPaqs?) on there that can compete with the Palm and the regular user need not know that it's Linux/X. It just makes life easier for the developer (develop for X, then port). --
"Whatever scheme is used, I agree it is a mistake (and disengenuous to some degree) for popular packaging systems to actually undue one of *nixes tremendous strengths: library versioning and peaceful coexistence."
What worse, both problems ("GNOME needs a lot of libraries" and "RPM doesn't do library upgrades well") come from one company. I've never before been on the "RedHat Sux" bandwagon, but I'm starting to agree with them. I've always said that someday I'm moving to Debian. Maybe I'll make that a weekend project some time soon... --
If you want to use some little GNOME program, you run the helix-code installer. It finds and downloads all the libraries you needs, finds a place for them and installs them.
That's one amazing piece of software. It actually makes your harddrive larger? What'll they think of next.
There's this wonderful thing called "library versioning" -- when you install a newer library, that doesn't mean all your apps can't still use the old one.
Used to be, anyway. But there's no way I'm installed eighty-eleven libraries the hard way. I'm gonna find RPMs. And RPM -U removes the old lib. Whoops. --
This is not a troll, this is an illustration of an opposing viewpoint.
If I want to use some little GNOME program (say, Galeon), what do I need to do?
Download the program.
Figure out which libraries are needed for the GNOME stuff.
Figure out which libraries are needed BY the GNOME stuff.
Locate and download all those libraries.
Find a place to put all those libraries.
Debug all my existing applications because I just upgraded all my libraries (can you say "DLL hell"?)
Occasionally: Answer "NO" to a program that wants to "associate files of type ABC with this program"
I'm all for making things easy to learn. I am NOT in favor of making them just like Microsoft. --
And this is what is meant by "information wants to be free". It doesn't mean "information has a brain and certain desires". It doesn't mean "should be released to everyone at no cost". It means "information, like heat, tends towards a state of maximum diffusion".
Unlike heat, however, information is easy to make copies of. Imagine a cold room with a hot corner. Eventually the whole room is just warm. The heat covers the whole volume, but at the cost of becoming less detectable. Now imagine a information-less network with a information-source attached. Since information spread is by making copies, not by diffusion, eventually the entire network is as "hot" as the original source. There is no diffusion. In other words, a net gain for every node, instead of nodes gaining at the expense of the source.
Another parallel: You get work done when you make heat do something while it diffuses. For instance, you heat up a pot of water (spreading heat throughout the container) which creates steam. The steam escapes the spout (spreading the heat throughout the room). If you put a pinwheel by the spout you harness some of that heat escape as physical force. Same with info: Put an "information engine" at the bottleneck between the information source and the rest of the network and you turn information into money. But, just like you can't get the heat from the escaped steam back to re-heat the pot, you can't get a network node that already bought the information to pay for it again later. Copyright laws are an attempt to legislate mathematics/physics and Napster is proof once again that that doesn't work. --
Microsoft, in an effort to raise cash to prop up their falling stock price, today sold off large portions of their wholly-owned subsidiary EvilButStupidLawyers Corp. The RIAA has made an offer, explaining "High priced monopolies are the backbone of American innovation. Microsoft did so well in their trial that we thought it would be smart to use their legal tactics as well as their business ones." --
AT&T also started funding my BlackHoleNet project. See, what you do is you send a file (less than 100K, so break that MP3's into 100 files!) and BlackHoleNet sends it to a special device (/dev/null). Later, when you want to get a file out it is retrieved from a different special device (/dev/random). The only remaining bug in my system is that the process of traversing the wormhole from/dev/null to/dev/random is somehow scrambling the files. I just need some funding to get over this last hurdle. --
"There's a rush of immediacy and wit; for a random example, "Polyamory is the preferred term of art; it's gender-neutral, where polygamy and polyandry are not, and allows for all persuasions of partner choice (gay/straight/bi/it depends)."
Oooo-hohohohoho *pausing to wipe tears from eyes*. That's GOLD!
Seriously, if this is what passes for wit in "Cyberselfish", I think I'll pass. By the way, the idea that libertarianism is selfish is so hopelessly flawed that it's clear we would completely talk past each other in a discussion. L isn't about "doing what you want" it's about "being responsible for what you do". --
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Well, you could just say "we're a business, so if we put it in our contract it's not censorship". I (and presumably you) don't like that, though, because soon everyone is doing it and I can't view any porn (I mean, "do breast cancer research").
So here's what you do:
Setup 10 kiosks. Make 3 of them "adult" (meaning they have no filter and you must present proof of age before using) and 7 of them "non-adult" (meaning everyone can use them but content is filtered--possibly over-zealously). You can put gradations in there like "anyone can use it but the session is logged" or whatever you want.
Objection: But underage kids can just get an overage kid to log them onto the adult kiosk.
Response: Yes, and that same overage kid could buy them cigarettes, beer, R-rated movie passes, etc.
Objection: But then underage kids can't do research without a parent or guardian.
Response: We're talking about a laundromat, right?
--
"It's a pretty interesting debate - how do national laws apply to the Internet?"
They don't. If France wants to block Nazi-related auctions (and what a stupid gesture that would be), then they have to tell ISPs in France to filter, force French citizens to use filters or other apply there silly laws only to the French.
If you think otherwise, think what would happen if China decided to apply it's censorship laws to cnn.com.
--
Everybody loves "RAMUS".
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Let's say I was an ISP. And let's say I setup a DNS server such that my customers could use any domain name they wanted, but only locally. That is, Joe Schmoe could call his website www.microsoft.com, but only people pointing to my DNS server would resolve that name to his page.
Can Microsoft sue either Joe or me for trademark infringment? Wouldn't this be the same as if I ran a "Mystery Train" restaurant and gave the diner's real-life but only-locally-used names like "Davy Crockett", "Bill Gates", etc?
--
"Where do I sign up??" "I gotta get one of these"! "*drool*"
If you want the illusion of a fast machine, put a worn-out batter in your watch and see your clock-cyles per "second" soar. If you want something stable and useful, go on eBay and buy some "obsolete" machines for under $500.
--
MailOne is more than an MTA. It also allows an incoming MAPI connection, TeamLinks connections (native, not MAPI), etc. It also has MUA-type stuff.
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There's no proof that you are paying them for the albums that have been produced on their current label.
I guess you didn't visit the site. There a form to fill out where you can specify an album or title you especially like. In any case, some artists have no previous label. Also the "paying...for the enjoyment that you get out of seeing them live" is the same the ticket price--which ALSO largely goes to the label.
--
I agree that Britney Spears, Ricky Martin, etc (even Eminem) have been over-marketed. I also have a gut feeling that I am owed some compensation for this. However, upon careful reflection of the sentence I realize that changing radio stations or inserting a tape or CD is very very easy, even inside a car.
--
- Can see total contribs to date for entire site
- Can see total contribs to date for individual artists
- Can contribute via credit card
- Marketspeak free (the fine print re: credit card fees is refreshingly clear and frank)
- Tip amounts are free-form entry (i.e. no "$10, $100 or $1000" drop down)
- Can leave message to send to artist (of course proof that they read it is missing, but whaddya gonna do)
- Very simple and fast site
Some of the music I own is so good I'd be willing to use a site like this to tip even after buying the album.I have to wonder though: What do the artist's contracts look like? Do they have to split these tips with their labels because they are revenues generated from jointly produced work? I can see how they'd get around this if I were tipping a band member (just a person-to-person transaction). But I'm tipping by band name--not really the same thing.
--
Copyright schmopyright, the crux of the problem is right here:"...the RIAA is now ready to recommend to Congress that the revision be stricken from the books..."
Congress acting on the recommendation of the RIAA? The tail is wagging the dog here. Instead of faxing/emailing/calling/talking to politicians asking them to reverse this, overturn that, block the other, we should be telling them to stop listening to lobbyists, start thinking for yourselves.
--
We want to know what Carnivore does and how. Having some hand-picked university reiview gives me zero confidence. Therefore I (or someone like me) will just re-request the information using the FOIA--and it has to be done all over.
Why not just post the entire source code on the Internet? If what they are doing is so secure and trustworthy, surely everyone can look at it to no detriment to the FBI.
--
*sobbing* I thought there were no sane people left on Slashdot, they were all here 2 years ago, but then I looked around and they were gone...thank god you finally showed up. Save me!
--
I wonder if net filtering software allows its users to look at "online briefs"
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Not being able to boot can be a symptom of either hardware or software. If the problem is hardware it should be fixed. If the problem is software, VA should say "bite me". In neither case should it take 2.5 weeks to get back a partial server.
And actually, if this is a software problem, using RedHat probably wouldn't fix it. Booting is just lilo and the kernel, neither of which is distro-specific.
--
I just don't see TWM being used on a PDA. For crying out loud, the text was unreadable and the title-bars enormous (relative the screen size).
On the other hand, get a few apps (will they be called ApPaqs?) on there that can compete with the Palm and the regular user need not know that it's Linux/X. It just makes life easier for the developer (develop for X, then port).
--
"Whatever scheme is used, I agree it is a mistake (and disengenuous to some degree) for popular packaging systems to actually undue one of *nixes tremendous strengths: library versioning and peaceful coexistence."
What worse, both problems ("GNOME needs a lot of libraries" and "RPM doesn't do library upgrades well") come from one company. I've never before been on the "RedHat Sux" bandwagon, but I'm starting to agree with them. I've always said that someday I'm moving to Debian. Maybe I'll make that a weekend project some time soon...
--
If you want to use some little GNOME program, you run the helix-code installer. It finds and downloads all the libraries you needs, finds a place for them and installs them.
That's one amazing piece of software. It actually makes your harddrive larger? What'll they think of next.
There's this wonderful thing called "library versioning" -- when you install a newer library, that doesn't mean all your apps can't still use the old one.
Used to be, anyway. But there's no way I'm installed eighty-eleven libraries the hard way. I'm gonna find RPMs. And RPM -U removes the old lib. Whoops.
--
This is not a troll, this is an illustration of an opposing viewpoint.
If I want to use some little GNOME program (say, Galeon), what do I need to do?
Download the program.
Figure out which libraries are needed for the GNOME stuff.
Figure out which libraries are needed BY the GNOME stuff.
Locate and download all those libraries.
Find a place to put all those libraries.
Debug all my existing applications because I just upgraded all my libraries (can you say "DLL hell"?)
Occasionally: Answer "NO" to a program that wants to "associate files of type ABC with this program"
I'm all for making things easy to learn. I am NOT in favor of making them just like Microsoft.
--
And this is what is meant by "information wants to be free". It doesn't mean "information has a brain and certain desires". It doesn't mean "should be released to everyone at no cost". It means "information, like heat, tends towards a state of maximum diffusion".
Unlike heat, however, information is easy to make copies of. Imagine a cold room with a hot corner. Eventually the whole room is just warm. The heat covers the whole volume, but at the cost of becoming less detectable. Now imagine a information-less network with a information-source attached. Since information spread is by making copies, not by diffusion, eventually the entire network is as "hot" as the original source. There is no diffusion. In other words, a net gain for every node, instead of nodes gaining at the expense of the source.
Another parallel: You get work done when you make heat do something while it diffuses. For instance, you heat up a pot of water (spreading heat throughout the container) which creates steam. The steam escapes the spout (spreading the heat throughout the room). If you put a pinwheel by the spout you harness some of that heat escape as physical force. Same with info: Put an "information engine" at the bottleneck between the information source and the rest of the network and you turn information into money. But, just like you can't get the heat from the escaped steam back to re-heat the pot, you can't get a network node that already bought the information to pay for it again later. Copyright laws are an attempt to legislate mathematics/physics and Napster is proof once again that that doesn't work.
--
Microsoft, in an effort to raise cash to prop up their falling stock price, today sold off large portions of their wholly-owned subsidiary EvilButStupidLawyers Corp. The RIAA has made an offer, explaining "High priced monopolies are the backbone of American innovation. Microsoft did so well in their trial that we thought it would be smart to use their legal tactics as well as their business ones."
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Nine mini-comets, eh? Well, you probably have nine mini-servers, now. It is also "completely shattered"
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Forget WHY Apple would do it. That's easy: They are well-known idiots. (They make a friendly computer, but that doesn't make them smart).
Let's stick to the question: What LEGAL BASIS does Apple have for its demands?
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So I've got a bunch of ASF files on my HD--now what? Still no Windows Media Player for Linux.
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AT&T also started funding my BlackHoleNet project. See, what you do is you send a file (less than 100K, so break that MP3's into 100 files!) and BlackHoleNet sends it to a special device (/dev/null). Later, when you want to get a file out it is retrieved from a different special device (/dev/random). The only remaining bug in my system is that the process of traversing the wormhole from /dev/null to /dev/random is somehow scrambling the files. I just need some funding to get over this last hurdle.
--
"There's a rush of immediacy and wit; for a random example, "Polyamory is the preferred term of art; it's gender-neutral, where polygamy and polyandry are not, and allows for all persuasions of partner choice (gay/straight/bi/it depends)."
Oooo-hohohohoho *pausing to wipe tears from eyes*. That's GOLD!
Seriously, if this is what passes for wit in "Cyberselfish", I think I'll pass. By the way, the idea that libertarianism is selfish is so hopelessly flawed that it's clear we would completely talk past each other in a discussion. L isn't about "doing what you want" it's about "being responsible for what you do".
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