Not wanting to be a pedant or anything (he lied), but according to that case study, Sirius only migrated their client to open source servers - the desktops still run NT.
Yes. It got into the kernel from BSD. It is code that has been released under an open source license, and that SCO got from the same place as Linux. The difference being that SCO is still using the ugly code (and claiming rights to it that they don't have) whereas Linux has binned it and replaced it with something more elegant. That's not the reason SCO's claims are invalid, it's just a little bonus.
"Your claims are nonsense because you don't own this code, and here is evidence of where the code was made freely available before your company even existed. Oh, and the code sucks so much that you're the only ones who even want to use it. Shouldn't you be spending more on developers and less on incompetent lawyers?"
Really? I'd assumed it was because the European decision-makers at SCO didn't have enough shares to sell off after artificially inflating their value.:)
Apparently SCO aren't being anywhere near so noxious in Europe - I'd certainly check the policy of your local branch before sending over the banana skins.
At that Q&A session, SCO Senior Vice President Chris Sontag said there are millions of lines of offending code involved and that it's highly unlikely the matter could be resolved by removing that code.
By my count, that means SCO actually wrote about half of the Linux kernel...
Linux 2.5.37 (Sep 2002) is 5100081 lines of code, 152 MB.
So according to SCO, almost 20% of Linux is copied directly from their code. I can't believe they're even seriously trying any more, what with this and their blatant misreading of copyright law claiming that licenses allowing multiple copies to be made are invalid.
More accurately, according to the article there is a proof for all boards where boardsize = 4k and k > 2, and proof that there is no solution for any odd boardsize.:)
I prefer Nintendo over others because of the *way* they make their money, by giving me gaming goodnes! Whereas Sony make money through hyping the same exclusive games over and over again, not matter how bad they are.
Perhaps you ought to follow your own advice a little, and invest some time into finding out about the companies you slag off for 'hyping the same exclusive games over and over again'. There's a good case to be made that Sony have actually done more to innovate this generation than Nintendo, with titles like Ico, Mark of Kri, Eye Toy, Mojib Ribbon, and the like. Yes, they've produced the inevitable sequels (GT3 et al), but what on earth do you think Super Mario Sunshine, Super Smash Brothers Melee, and even Zelda: TWW are?
Perhaps you're confusing Sony's output with that of the big-name third parties such as Konami and Namco, I suppose. But even there, Nintendo have shown that they want exactly the same thing, through their deal with the master of milking, Capcom. Minor graphical updates to PSX games (the Resident Evil titles), exclusive to Gamecube - sounds like hyping the same old games over and over to me.
At the end of the day, any console partisanship is just plain stupid. As has been pointed out elsewhere, there's no reason not to have all the consoles and buy the games where they come out, rather than coming across all sour grapes about the evils of the 'enemy' consoles. There are great games for GC. There are great games for XBox. There are great games for PS2. There's noxious shovelware for all three as well. Don't try to make some big point about this, because there isn't one. Just buy the good games (by whatever standard of 'good' you want to use) and enjoy them.
A proof would have told us how many routes there are for an arbitrary sized chessboard as well.
Not necessarily. As the article points out, there is a proof for certain sizes of chessboard, but it doesn't extend down to 8x8. Not all mathematical proofs are quite as neat as we might like them to be in terms of how they apply to other variants on the same problem.
I say I'd prefer something which doesn't have resonances with the current console wars, yet still has positive geek appeal. An Atari 2600, perhaps, or a Vectrex.
Yawn. The old lie - or the matching pair of old lies. "Nintendo care about games, MS and Sony only care about making money" and "If your first console was a Playstation you're not a real gamer". The last resort of bitter Nintendo fanboys with an axe to grind.
Accept it: Nintendo are in this for money as much as the rest of them. If you think Nintendo have a better gaming pedigree and Sony should stick to making TVs and Microsoft to making operating systems, then perhaps Nintendo should have stuck to making playing cards too?
I find it bitingly ironic that the self-styled 'hardcore' gamers mock the 'casual gamers' of the Playstation era for daring to *enjoy games*. Apparently what 'real' gamers are supposed to do is sit around in message boards and IRC channels whining about how everything was better when Nintendo and Sega were the lords of all they surveyed, and games aren't difficult enough, or 2D enough, or classic enough. Odd how they never seem to remember the hordes of identikit movie-licensed platform turds that the industry spewed out in those days. They're too busy bitching about there being too many racing games for PS2. Well, plus ca change, I guess.
And if you're wanting reasons to dislike this generation's Zelda, other than the cel shading, there are plenty of them, from the hideous design of the MGS-wannabe first level through the tedious 'sailing' sections to the godawful collect-the-triforce quest towards the end. IMO the series reached its peak with Link to the Past. Now, if you'll excuse me, I'm off to find a message board to bitch about it on.
He's 'right about the PS2' in the sense that he's completely wrong, of course. Getting Linux to run on it wasn't exactly a painful process, and Sony actually sell a Linux kit for homebrew development (in the same way that they supported PSX with the Net Yaroze).
Perhaps I'm wrong here, but I got this strange impression that the article was aiming for humour rather than a true in-depth look at the future of the video games industry. There were a few little things that gave it away. The graph of penis sizes. The suggestion that Microsoft will be the future because of changes in federal law and death threats to major developers.
Oh, and that wasn't really a picture of a Sony engineer testing out Cell.
Well, it will be as soon as they can remember the key combination for 'hack into VI web site' is. Now I know it's in here somewhere - is it M-~ h C-V...?
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Not wanting to be a pedant or anything (he lied), but according to that case study, Sirius only migrated their client to open source servers - the desktops still run NT.
:)
Still, it's a start.
Well, either that or get on over to eBay and start looking. :)
Yes. It got into the kernel from BSD. It is code that has been released under an open source license, and that SCO got from the same place as Linux. The difference being that SCO is still using the ugly code (and claiming rights to it that they don't have) whereas Linux has binned it and replaced it with something more elegant. That's not the reason SCO's claims are invalid, it's just a little bonus.
"Your claims are nonsense because you don't own this code, and here is evidence of where the code was made freely available before your company even existed. Oh, and the code sucks so much that you're the only ones who even want to use it. Shouldn't you be spending more on developers and less on incompetent lawyers?"
"The server is too busy at the moment. Please try again later."?
Well, it might do. I couldn't say...
More to the point, and the question that SCO need to actually answer at some point, what copyrighted material?
Really? I'd assumed it was because the European decision-makers at SCO didn't have enough shares to sell off after artificially inflating their value. :)
Apparently SCO aren't being anywhere near so noxious in Europe - I'd certainly check the policy of your local branch before sending over the banana skins.
Given that it seems the disputed code made its way into SCO's source code from BSD, it seems like a no-brainer that BSD has the same problem.
Dewd! Learn to read THE WHOLE ARTICLE!
By my count, that means SCO actually wrote about half of the Linux kernel...
And this is why K&R code indenting is a Bad Thing (TM).
Google does. According to this site:
Linux 2.5.37 (Sep 2002) is 5100081 lines of code, 152 MB.
So according to SCO, almost 20% of Linux is copied directly from their code. I can't believe they're even seriously trying any more, what with this and their blatant misreading of copyright law claiming that licenses allowing multiple copies to be made are invalid.
Well, 6x6 has got to be too easy to even bother brute forcing. 10x10, on the other hand...
More accurately, according to the article there is a proof for all boards where boardsize = 4k and k > 2, and proof that there is no solution for any odd boardsize. :)
Just in case this one doesn't get answered, here's one answer.
Perhaps you ought to follow your own advice a little, and invest some time into finding out about the companies you slag off for 'hyping the same exclusive games over and over again'. There's a good case to be made that Sony have actually done more to innovate this generation than Nintendo, with titles like Ico, Mark of Kri, Eye Toy, Mojib Ribbon, and the like. Yes, they've produced the inevitable sequels (GT3 et al), but what on earth do you think Super Mario Sunshine, Super Smash Brothers Melee, and even Zelda: TWW are?
Perhaps you're confusing Sony's output with that of the big-name third parties such as Konami and Namco, I suppose. But even there, Nintendo have shown that they want exactly the same thing, through their deal with the master of milking, Capcom. Minor graphical updates to PSX games (the Resident Evil titles), exclusive to Gamecube - sounds like hyping the same old games over and over to me.
At the end of the day, any console partisanship is just plain stupid. As has been pointed out elsewhere, there's no reason not to have all the consoles and buy the games where they come out, rather than coming across all sour grapes about the evils of the 'enemy' consoles. There are great games for GC. There are great games for XBox. There are great games for PS2. There's noxious shovelware for all three as well. Don't try to make some big point about this, because there isn't one. Just buy the good games (by whatever standard of 'good' you want to use) and enjoy them.
Not necessarily. As the article points out, there is a proof for certain sizes of chessboard, but it doesn't extend down to 8x8. Not all mathematical proofs are quite as neat as we might like them to be in terms of how they apply to other variants on the same problem.
I say I'd prefer something which doesn't have resonances with the current console wars, yet still has positive geek appeal. An Atari 2600, perhaps, or a Vectrex.
Yawn. The old lie - or the matching pair of old lies. "Nintendo care about games, MS and Sony only care about making money" and "If your first console was a Playstation you're not a real gamer". The last resort of bitter Nintendo fanboys with an axe to grind.
Accept it: Nintendo are in this for money as much as the rest of them. If you think Nintendo have a better gaming pedigree and Sony should stick to making TVs and Microsoft to making operating systems, then perhaps Nintendo should have stuck to making playing cards too?
I find it bitingly ironic that the self-styled 'hardcore' gamers mock the 'casual gamers' of the Playstation era for daring to *enjoy games*. Apparently what 'real' gamers are supposed to do is sit around in message boards and IRC channels whining about how everything was better when Nintendo and Sega were the lords of all they surveyed, and games aren't difficult enough, or 2D enough, or classic enough. Odd how they never seem to remember the hordes of identikit movie-licensed platform turds that the industry spewed out in those days. They're too busy bitching about there being too many racing games for PS2. Well, plus ca change, I guess.
And if you're wanting reasons to dislike this generation's Zelda, other than the cel shading, there are plenty of them, from the hideous design of the MGS-wannabe first level through the tedious 'sailing' sections to the godawful collect-the-triforce quest towards the end. IMO the series reached its peak with Link to the Past. Now, if you'll excuse me, I'm off to find a message board to bitch about it on.
He's 'right about the PS2' in the sense that he's completely wrong, of course. Getting Linux to run on it wasn't exactly a painful process, and Sony actually sell a Linux kit for homebrew development (in the same way that they supported PSX with the Net Yaroze).
Perhaps I'm wrong here, but I got this strange impression that the article was aiming for humour rather than a true in-depth look at the future of the video games industry. There were a few little things that gave it away. The graph of penis sizes. The suggestion that Microsoft will be the future because of changes in federal law and death threats to major developers.
Oh, and that wasn't really a picture of a Sony engineer testing out Cell.
Well that blows the "There's a "slashdotters know what they are talking about" myth" myth...
Well, it will be as soon as they can remember the key combination for 'hack into VI web site' is. Now I know it's in here somewhere - is it M-~ h C-V...?
A quick change to that query and you might spot another interesting trend. :)
Why bother? Just post a Slashdot story about windowsupdate.com and you get the same effect without exposing yourself to the risk of arrest.
You mean 'int iu', you insensitive clod.