...it all got started when Robot Wisdom picked up the link off my site... That's scary, the kind of media power Jorn has to put a meme into circulation.
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Yes, I know, apt is much better than dselect, but I'm waiting for apt to have a freindly front end.
There is one. It's the ncurses-based apt-find utility, and I'd bet there's some kind of X equivalent for folks who need that, too.
For potato: $ apt-get install console-apt
For slink: % apt-get install apt-find
Although, to be honest, between apt-cache search and apt-get I don't think there's a gaping need for anything much friendlier. It's very easy to search for something you want with apt-cache, and install it with apt-get.
I do think, however, that something other than dselect should be used for installation. dselect is hideously broken by concept, and is baffling and painful to use in execution.
For example, if a vendor sends you an unsolicited (but desirable) notice about an upgrade to a software product that you previously purchased from them, they could be liable for a penalty of up to $25,000.
I am in favor of penalties for such behavior. If I want to hear broadcasts from a vendor, I will inform them by checking a box or subscribing to a list. Otherwise I want them out of my face. If I receive a message like this, I usually contact the vendor's upstream provider to ask if they are violating an AUP by sending unsolicited bulk mail, and emit complaints.
Vendors, or anyone else for that matter, should not have the right to use my CPU, disk and bandwidth resources to promote their products, scams, causes, or other bulk-mail foolishness, and I am in favor of penalties for exactly the kind of behavior you describe.
Because the language is so broad, the result will effectively ban from the net all e-mail with even a remotely commercial whiff. Is this what we really want?
Yes. All unsolicited opt-out spam, commercial or no, is an intrusion on my computing resources, time, and attention. A majority of it is fraudulent. A small portion of it is Endless September cluelessness.
I do beleive that the technical solution described is misguided. It should be the other way around: Criminal penalties for sending unsolicited broadcast mail to any machine that does not specifically indicate that UBE is acceptable.
I own my SMTP port. I believe I should have the right to seek prosecution for its misuse. I define misuse as requesting delivery of UBE.
I beg to differ, if only because I'm cranking out naysaying messages today, but actually for a good reason:
You're right in thinking that this is a great step forward for miniaturized storage, but it should be plainly obvious that there are currently far more applications for a Huge, Dense Disk than there are for handheld storage.
I'd love to "actually start to store a reasonable number of MP3s, a few dozen truly hi-res photos from a digital camera," but it's reasonable to assume that the market for digital cameras and MP3 storage is a subset of that for PC system storage.
Given a choice between a 100G disk and a small sackful of Sony gadgets with portable storage, the 100G disk is personally more useful, or at least flexible.
So I reiterate that it's incorrect to say people are thinking about the wrong end of this. They're just thinking of the most applicable side of things.
(And lets face it, CompactFlash may be the leading standard for portable storage, but consumer electronics manufacturers are working overtime to fragment and confuse the market with SmartMedia, MemoryStick, and various other harebrained schemes. Until a form factor and interface standard emerges that manufacturers actually stick to -- and I [wildly] predict this is as much as three years off -- micro-disks are somewhat moot.)
The only things that are needed to be backed up on your personal box are files that you type in with your hands.
Forgive me for being particularly negative today, but I have to point out how mind-bogglingly wrong this is.
I generate multimegabyte uncompressed images on a regular basis that I would certainly like to see preserved across disk failures. Not to mention my audio collection (no, not just a pile of replacable MP3s, but my own music), and some captured video.
I could easily eat up a 2G DAT by backing up my own files. I suspect there are other folks in the same boat.
(Fortunately, my Promise card comes tomorrow, and I can rebuild/dev/md0 on the file server as a redundant array!)
A realistic price for ADSL Internet access IMO: 1 Gigabyte free per month,.01 -.02 Euros for each additional Megabyte.
I don't know about other DSL users, but I move anywhere between.25 to 3GB per day across my 1.5Mbit line. With a 6-20Mbit cable modem, I'm certain I would be able to consume far more. I know you surely meant this to be an off-hand number, but it does seem extremely lowball to me.
Okay, there's tons of golly-gee-whiz features in Mozilla... In fact, I'm using the latest nightly (Win32) build as we speak. But I find it very worrisome that a lot of effort is being put into snazzy features, and very little is being done to make it usable. Like this very text input box, for example. Or the severe lack of basic functionality like user font settings (everything is in Times! augh! Kill it, kill it!) And to this day, nobody has explained that strange whirly spiral bar thing at the bottom of the window to me. I sure hope Mozilla turns out well, because as feature-complete browsers become bloatier and bloatier (NN, NC, IE) they're becoming less and less usable, and with more commerce-driven features, yet fewer useful features along the lines of a "Don't pop up windows" pref, a "Never animate images" pref, and other desperately needed comforts. Mozilla is obviously not there (otherwise it'd be released, neh?) but while it has made great strides this year, it has mainly been in the areas of development that I'd characterize as "fluff." "So go contribute something" you desperately want to say! Um... yeah, I have several weeks of my time to sit down and learn the guts of an enormous application just to add a pref checkbox, and a renderer hook to prevent animation. Right. Sure. I'd kind of think someone who was already working the code could be more productive than I could. The sheer immensity of the source prevents casual contribution such as I'd be willing to make.
...is that config files (with the exception of sendmail.cf) are supposed to be human-readable.
It is not very reasonable to define XML as something human-readable. A human is forced to read the fairly-cryptic DTD, and then apply that knowledge towards the structure of a document.
I find it much easier to say something like: echo "nameserver 192.168.1.1" >/etc/resolv.conf than to spew several lines of XML header followed by the arbitrary, possibly multiline contents of a tag or nested set of tags.
Simplicity in reading, writing, manipulating and parsing are all positive attributes in a configuration file format, and XML fits few or none of those critera, as far as I understand. In a pinch, I can use very simple tools (such as those built into ash or found on a rescue floppy) to fix a configuration problem, whereas with XML, a layer of complexity is added to that task which is extraordinarily unnecessary and possibly irksome under the circumstances.
...but a form of this is an existing, shipping feature: An NT DNS server can refer to WINS for hostname resolution.
Adding the functionality to the NT DHCP server is a rather minimal, but helpful step: it just means that DHCP clients that aren't WINS clients can participate.
The real question is, who in their right mind would use NT as a DNS server in a production environment?
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$/usr/sbin/traceroute slashdot.org traceroute to slashdot.org (206.170.14.75), 30 hops max, 40 byte packets 1 bastard (192.168.1.1) 0.953 ms 0.529 ms 0.489 ms 2 adsl-209-233-xxx-xxx.dsl.snfc21.pacbell.net (209.233.17.254) 18.51 ms 16.454 ms 16.072 ms 3 core1-fe5-0-0.snfc21.pbi.net (206.171.134.130) 13.641 ms 14.756 ms 13.019 ms 4 ded1-fa12-0-0.snfc21.pbi.net (209.232.130.69) 22.519 ms 22.257 ms 23.712 ms 5 209.232.138.214 (209.232.138.214) 27.694 ms 29.951 ms 31.58 ms 6 sebastian.slashdot.org (206.170.14.75) 37.185 ms 34.712 ms 32.603 ms
I'm actually more concerned when Slashdot posters use the terms "upmarket" and "downmarket" out of context. San Jose marketing babble doesn't seem to me like the best possible method of expressing the quality of discussion systems and communities.
The aversion to the use of the term "Frisco" is generally limited to those of us who were born here. Since a vast chunk of the City is now more than ever comprised of People From Somewhere Else -- of a beautifully dizzying diversity -- said aversion borders on historic.
Maybe I'm just being silly, but what about all the noncorporate entities on the network? Are they to be denied rights to this public information because they aren't companies?
If you want programmers that are familiar with financial or commodities applications (there is some pretty high tech stuff being done in this area), you're not going to find them in Silicon Valley. Try New York or Chicago.
Ummm... no.
The Bay Area isn't Silicon Valley by a long shot. In fact, that seething morass to the south is kind of an embarassment to the rest of us.
Given that San Francisco is home to a number of major financial services players, it's pure fallacy to say there aren't finance/commodity programmers to be found.
The Bay Area economy is eventually going to collapse upon itself.
No.
There is an article in last week's U.S. News and World Report about the housing shortage...
Yep. It's painful to go looking for housing. Very bad idea to move here. Don't do it. Stay away.
Actually, rents in SF are about on par with Boston, which has recently seen the same sort of housing crunch. Oh well, there goes your suggestion...
For example Amiga is working with ATI to incorporate next-generation 3D rendering technology into the MCC (see the Hardware Architecture section).
...Graphics Subsystem: Advanced SuperScalar rendering 2D & 3D hardware accelerator unannounced next-generation ATI chipset - specs still under non-disclosure)
Am I the only person annoyed by this? The Amiga is going to feature graphics technology from a mediocre industry also-ran.
Not only that, but because of my ongoing refusal to purchase ATI products (based on their extremely poor quality and performance), does this mean I should abstain from supporting the forthcoming Amiga?
This is truly a shame, something that sends me away shaking my head in bafflement.
of course then there are just freaks like me whose girlfriend won't let them, uh I mean don't want a tv in their house.....
"That's not a TV, that's a monitor!" Heh.
Of course there's the poor bastards whose daughters, wives, cats, and so on monopolize the theater. The convenience factor of slapping the film up on one screen and getting some work done in the other is pretty high, whereas the effort of clearing out babies, livestock, and spouses just to pop in a DVD is pretty steep.
Speaking of which, you going to stop by to watch Taxi Driver, or what?
I really have to try not to say "tell that to WebTV" at this point, because it would be so unfair: WebTV's cheapness has only recently arrived with the retail channel trying to clear out the older first-generation units from inventory.
But the guy right next to me here has a point: "tell that to Atari and Commodore." Of course, they didn't have easy interfaces. GEM was crap (did anyone ever figure out what the strange-looking bee-shaped thing was when the system was busy?), and the Workbench was quite a ways from intuitive for a lot of folks (click-to-focus without float-on-focus was a very very bad interface decision.)
So really, cheap + easy haven't been well packaged together as far as I can recall. The Pilot is easy and readily has the best interface of the PDAs I've seen, but it's far from cheap -- it's overpriced to the point of absurdity. Yet they sell like hotcakes.
It looks like anecdotal evidence suggests that there is no rule of thumb about marketing success for (cheap, easy).
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TCPSTREAMTESTtocargo
RecvSendSend
SocketSocketMessageElapsed
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bytesbytesbytessecs.&nbs p;10^6bits/sec
655358192819210.00 92.85
Two 3Com 905B interfaces over switched 100baseTX, between a crummy Windows system and an arbitary Linux box.
So, wire speed is probably a little higher than your 86Mbps.
...it all got started when Robot Wisdom picked up the link off my site... That's scary, the kind of media power Jorn has to put a meme into circulation.
what more could you ask for? Follow the link (white rabbit) below to read more
Reason.
Yes, I know, apt is much better than dselect, but I'm waiting for apt to have a freindly front end.
There is one. It's the ncurses-based apt-find utility, and I'd bet there's some kind of X equivalent for folks who need that, too.
For potato:
$ apt-get install console-apt
For slink:
% apt-get install apt-find
Although, to be honest, between apt-cache search and apt-get I don't think there's a gaping need for anything much friendlier. It's very easy to search for something you want with apt-cache, and install it with apt-get.
I do think, however, that something other than dselect should be used for installation. dselect is hideously broken by concept, and is baffling and painful to use in execution.
For example, if a vendor sends you an unsolicited (but desirable) notice about an upgrade to a software product that you previously purchased from them, they could be liable for a penalty of up to $25,000.
I am in favor of penalties for such behavior. If I want to hear broadcasts from a vendor, I will inform them by checking a box or subscribing to a list. Otherwise I want them out of my face. If I receive a message like this, I usually contact the vendor's upstream provider to ask if they are violating an AUP by sending unsolicited bulk mail, and emit complaints.
Vendors, or anyone else for that matter, should not have the right to use my CPU, disk and bandwidth resources to promote their products, scams, causes, or other bulk-mail foolishness, and I am in favor of penalties for exactly the kind of behavior you describe.
Because the language is so broad, the result will effectively ban from the net all e-mail with even a remotely commercial whiff. Is this what we really want?
Yes. All unsolicited opt-out spam, commercial or no, is an intrusion on my computing resources, time, and attention. A majority of it is fraudulent. A small portion of it is Endless September cluelessness.
I do beleive that the technical solution described is misguided. It should be the other way around: Criminal penalties for sending unsolicited broadcast mail to any machine that does not specifically indicate that UBE is acceptable.
I own my SMTP port. I believe I should have the right to seek prosecution for its misuse. I define misuse as requesting delivery of UBE.
You are all thinking in the wrong direction...
I beg to differ, if only because I'm cranking out naysaying messages today, but actually for a good reason:
You're right in thinking that this is a great step forward for miniaturized storage, but it should be plainly obvious that there are currently far more applications for a Huge, Dense Disk than there are for handheld storage.
I'd love to "actually start to store a reasonable number of MP3s, a few dozen truly hi-res photos from a digital camera," but it's reasonable to assume that the market for digital cameras and MP3 storage is a subset of that for PC system storage.
Given a choice between a 100G disk and a small sackful of Sony gadgets with portable storage, the 100G disk is personally more useful, or at least flexible.
So I reiterate that it's incorrect to say people are thinking about the wrong end of this. They're just thinking of the most applicable side of things.
(And lets face it, CompactFlash may be the leading standard for portable storage, but consumer electronics manufacturers are working overtime to fragment and confuse the market with SmartMedia, MemoryStick, and various other harebrained schemes. Until a form factor and interface standard emerges that manufacturers actually stick to -- and I [wildly] predict this is as much as three years off -- micro-disks are somewhat moot.)
The only things that are needed to be backed up on your personal box are files that you type in with your hands.
/dev/md0 on the file server as a redundant array!)
Forgive me for being particularly negative today, but I have to point out how mind-bogglingly wrong this is.
I generate multimegabyte uncompressed images on a regular basis that I would certainly like to see preserved across disk failures. Not to mention my audio collection (no, not just a pile of replacable MP3s, but my own music), and some captured video.
I could easily eat up a 2G DAT by backing up my own files. I suspect there are other folks in the same boat.
(Fortunately, my Promise card comes tomorrow, and I can rebuild
Maybe IBM can come up with a 5 platter hard drive that has RAID as a function per-platter, with one platter set for failover.
Perhaps my life is radically different from your own, but in my experience, platters don't fail. Spindles fail. Firmware fails.
Redundancy across platters under the same seal doesn't buy you a whole hell of a lot, really. Certainly not much more than good ECC does.
Then check to see where "unmovable" sectors are located. If there are some near the end, you can't repartition or Wincrap will break.
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C:\> attrib -H -R -S
A realistic price for ADSL Internet access IMO: 1 Gigabyte free per month, .01 - .02 Euros for each additional Megabyte.
.25 to 3GB per day across my 1.5Mbit line. With a 6-20Mbit cable modem, I'm certain I would be able to consume far more. I know you surely meant this to be an off-hand number, but it does seem extremely lowball to me.
I don't know about other DSL users, but I move anywhere between
Okay, there's tons of golly-gee-whiz features in Mozilla... In fact, I'm using the latest nightly (Win32) build as we speak. But I find it very worrisome that a lot of effort is being put into snazzy features, and very little is being done to make it usable. Like this very text input box, for example. Or the severe lack of basic functionality like user font settings (everything is in Times! augh! Kill it, kill it!) And to this day, nobody has explained that strange whirly spiral bar thing at the bottom of the window to me. I sure hope Mozilla turns out well, because as feature-complete browsers become bloatier and bloatier (NN, NC, IE) they're becoming less and less usable, and with more commerce-driven features, yet fewer useful features along the lines of a "Don't pop up windows" pref, a "Never animate images" pref, and other desperately needed comforts. Mozilla is obviously not there (otherwise it'd be released, neh?) but while it has made great strides this year, it has mainly been in the areas of development that I'd characterize as "fluff." "So go contribute something" you desperately want to say! Um... yeah, I have several weeks of my time to sit down and learn the guts of an enormous application just to add a pref checkbox, and a renderer hook to prevent animation. Right. Sure. I'd kind of think someone who was already working the code could be more productive than I could. The sheer immensity of the source prevents casual contribution such as I'd be willing to make.
It is not very reasonable to define XML as something human-readable. A human is forced to read the fairly-cryptic DTD, and then apply that knowledge towards the structure of a document.
I find it much easier to say something like: echo "nameserver 192.168.1.1" > /etc/resolv.conf than to spew several lines of XML header followed by the arbitrary, possibly multiline contents of a tag or nested set of tags.
Simplicity in reading, writing, manipulating and parsing are all positive attributes in a configuration file format, and XML fits few or none of those critera, as far as I understand. In a pinch, I can use very simple tools (such as those built into ash or found on a rescue floppy) to fix a configuration problem, whereas with XML, a layer of complexity is added to that task which is extraordinarily unnecessary and possibly irksome under the circumstances.
LVM.
...but a form of this is an existing, shipping feature: An NT DNS server can refer to WINS for hostname resolution.
Adding the functionality to the NT DHCP server is a rather minimal, but helpful step: it just means that DHCP clients that aren't WINS clients can participate.
The real question is, who in their right mind would use NT as a DNS server in a production environment?
$ /usr/sbin/traceroute slashdot.org traceroute to slashdot.org (206.170.14.75), 30 hops max, 40 byte packets
1 bastard (192.168.1.1) 0.953 ms 0.529 ms 0.489 ms
2 adsl-209-233-xxx-xxx.dsl.snfc21.pacbell.net (209.233.17.254) 18.51 ms 16.454 ms 16.072 ms
3 core1-fe5-0-0.snfc21.pbi.net (206.171.134.130) 13.641 ms 14.756 ms 13.019 ms
4 ded1-fa12-0-0.snfc21.pbi.net (209.232.130.69) 22.519 ms 22.257 ms 23.712 ms
5 209.232.138.214 (209.232.138.214) 27.694 ms 29.951 ms 31.58 ms
6 sebastian.slashdot.org (206.170.14.75) 37.185 ms 34.712 ms 32.603 ms
I'm actually more concerned when Slashdot posters use the terms "upmarket" and "downmarket" out of context. San Jose marketing babble doesn't seem to me like the best possible method of expressing the quality of discussion systems and communities.
The aversion to the use of the term "Frisco" is generally limited to those of us who were born here. Since a vast chunk of the City is now more than ever comprised of People From Somewhere Else -- of a beautifully dizzying diversity -- said aversion borders on historic.
It annoys me, but I never correct anyone.
Oh, and it's illegal to use in the US without an RSA license. Damn patent laws.
Maybe I'm just being silly, but what about all the noncorporate entities on the network? Are they to be denied rights to this public information because they aren't companies?
I guess I'll go read the article now...
If you want programmers that are familiar with financial or commodities applications (there is some pretty high tech stuff being done in this area), you're not going to find them in Silicon Valley. Try New York or Chicago.
Ummm... no.
The Bay Area isn't Silicon Valley by a long shot. In fact, that seething morass to the south is kind of an embarassment to the rest of us.
Given that San Francisco is home to a number of major financial services players, it's pure fallacy to say there aren't finance/commodity programmers to be found.
The Bay Area economy is eventually going to collapse upon itself.
No.
There is an article in last week's U.S. News and World Report about the housing shortage...
Yep. It's painful to go looking for housing. Very bad idea to move here. Don't do it. Stay away.
Actually, rents in SF are about on par with Boston, which has recently seen the same sort of housing crunch. Oh well, there goes your suggestion...
Hmmm. That makes me think. I wonder if Ricochet would work on a train.
No. It doesn't. Ricochet loses signal if the remote is moving at greater than 4 MPH.
Just trying to help.
WTF? ATI? And I quote:
...Graphics Subsystem: Advanced SuperScalar rendering 2D & 3D hardware accelerator unannounced next-generation ATI chipset - specs still under non-disclosure)
For example Amiga is working with ATI to incorporate next-generation 3D rendering technology into the MCC (see the Hardware Architecture section).
Am I the only person annoyed by this? The Amiga is going to feature graphics technology from a mediocre industry also-ran.
Not only that, but because of my ongoing refusal to purchase ATI products (based on their extremely poor quality and performance), does this mean I should abstain from supporting the forthcoming Amiga?
This is truly a shame, something that sends me away shaking my head in bafflement.
of course then there are just freaks like me whose girlfriend won't let them, uh I mean don't
want a tv in their house.....
"That's not a TV, that's a monitor!" Heh.
Of course there's the poor bastards whose daughters, wives, cats, and so on monopolize the theater. The convenience factor of slapping the film up on one screen and getting some work done in the other is pretty high, whereas the effort of clearing out babies, livestock, and spouses just to pop in a DVD is pretty steep.
Speaking of which, you going to stop by to watch Taxi Driver, or what?
easy interface + cheap = wide usage.
I really have to try not to say "tell that to WebTV" at this point, because it would be so unfair: WebTV's cheapness has only recently arrived with the retail channel trying to clear out the older first-generation units from inventory.
But the guy right next to me here has a point: "tell that to Atari and Commodore." Of course, they didn't have easy interfaces. GEM was crap (did anyone ever figure out what the strange-looking bee-shaped thing was when the system was busy?), and the Workbench was quite a ways from intuitive for a lot of folks (click-to-focus without float-on-focus was a very very bad interface decision.)
So really, cheap + easy haven't been well packaged together as far as I can recall. The Pilot is easy and readily has the best interface of the PDAs I've seen, but it's far from cheap -- it's overpriced to the point of absurdity. Yet they sell like hotcakes.
It looks like anecdotal evidence suggests that there is no rule of thumb about marketing success for (cheap, easy).
Easy Interface = Wide Usage. Period.
Tell that to Apple's market share.
No, this isn't a troll. I'm just trying to point out the fallacy of an assumption like that.