It ships with Lycoris linux, and the laptop is available from other dealers under other names/brands, including with Windows bundled. Element sells it without.
The only things not working under Linux are the zc301 chip webcam and the 4in1 card reader, neither of which has linux drivers.
William Stone III explodes the Myth of Intellectual Property in a series of articles entitled
Law Versus Reality http://www.webleyweb.com/tle/tle265-20040404-09. html
is part 4 (with links to the other 3 parts)
Part 1
quote from the article:
I've argued that information shares none of property's unique characteristics, therefore information cannot be treated as identical to property.
Hall writes: ".. GPL does not allow a company to take the software created by the sweat and work of another person, add a few lines of code to it and then sell it to make a huge profit."
In fact, the GPL _does_ allow this. There is no restriction in taking a GPLed piece of code, adding lines of code (or not) and then selling it to someone for $X dollars. (1 Jillion Dollars! finger to corner of mouth). In fact, it's completely allowed so long as the buyer recieves the _same_ GPL rights (and source on demand). Why someone would purchase a GPLed product (sans support or other value added) for such an amount is another question, but in fact, a number of people out there do just such a thing, including with code that the original author has changed license terms on and no longer provides GPLed code themselves. Once a GPLed copy is out there, it's out there. Which is a good thing. Despite SCO's claims.
[Major market players such as Mandrake began by 'adding lines of code' to existing products such as Red Hat.]
See my other response(s). But yes, when I said _applied_, I meant that as in already patched into the program. Of COURSE you can distribute patches separately without limitation. You can also distribute his original files without limitation (well, mostly, he does have some expiring clauses on certain programs - see other reply)
one can make modifications and distribute a modified version, which djb does not allow in any form
Not true:
From http://cr.yp.to/qmail/dist.html
If you want to distribute modified versions of qmail (including ports, no matter how minor the changes are) you'll have to get my approval. This does not mean approval of your distribution method, your intentions, your e-mail address, your haircut, or any other irrelevant information. It means a detailed review of the exact package that you want to distribute.
His licensing is not explicit in the software bundle itself. His webpage, while it could be argued, isn't enough of a license to hold up in court. This is one reason the GPL is required to be distributed: to insure that the licensing is clear and present at all times.
If DJB changed his web pages, do you really think a judge would argue with his right to change the license of the program. Yes, all previously downloaded copies would be under whatever terms were in force at the time, but go _read_ those terms:
installing your package produces exactly the same files, in exactly the same locations, that a user would obtain by installing one of my packages listed above
That is a big deal, that means no patched version, including security fixes, etc. Thus old versions would be obsoleted easily.
Not to mention:
You may distribute exact copies of any of the following packages, or precompiled packages under the same rules as above, until the termination date shown:
Termination Package
2002-04-01 daemontools-0.76.tar.gz
2002-04-01 ucspi-tcp-0.88.tar.gz
Don't get me wrong: I USE his stuff, I like his stuff, but the license issues are a sore point.
You can patch the program, just not release the patches applied. It's darn close to 'free', with a hitch that DJB can change the license at any time if he wishes. That alone is the problem.
If you were on Usenet, waiting for Doom to arrive, you got bored. SPISPOPD was the result.
A tribute site Richard Ward created... On the net, nothing ever dies, it's enshrined forever by someone.
Seth
(yes, that original idspispopd cheatcode/FAQ guy)
Make sure the AS/400 is running TCP/IP, which means a recent OS version...
tn5250 is great, and will probably meet your needs, including printer support. There is an X version, and the console works great also.
Mochasoft's is ok, for closed source software.
Don't expect Client Access quality stuff (but then again, it's close in most ways).
Be sure and remember AS/400 is EBCDIC, so files transfered often need to be translated back and forth to ASCII. You can make the AS/400 talk FTP, Telnet, HTTP and more... so moving data back and forth is fairly easy. I used FTP a lot, automated jobs and so on.
I network admined for a few years in a mixed shop and never had problems with Linux AS/400 stuff, it was always possible to find a solution.
IBM is actually a good resource at this point: They really want to make everything Linux friendly.
Cheops is an Open Source Network User Interface. It is designed to be the network equivalent of a swiss-army knife, unifying your network utilities. Cheops does for the network what a file manager does for your filesystem.
And then:
http://cheops-ng.sourceforge.net/index.php
Cheops-ng (cheops next generation) description:
Cheops-ng is a Network management tool for mapping and monitoring your network. It has host/network discovery functionality as well as OS detection of hosts. Cheops-ng has the ability to probe hosts to see what services they are running. On some services, cheops-ng is actually able to see what program is running for a service and the version number of that program. Take a look at the screenshots page for a detailed look at some of the features of cheops-ng.
Re:Not this stupid 'programming is art' BS again!
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Peter Davis? Your website is down... email bounces too. What's the current location and status of MP3VoiceControl?
hope you see this...
Does this mean we aren't protesting anymore?
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We were scheduled to protest Wednesday in Portland. Should we cancel it?
I'm still not going to buy anything Adobe, and neither should you. The past few weeks has been Adobe Lawyer Month, and I won't forget that.
Discovering that this wasn't the first post it should have been, we ran to the Tardis, whipped out the sonic screwdriver and attempted to repair the time/space problem.
Failing that, I offered CmdrTaco a jellybaby...
Go read the Social Contract, and you'll see there will NEVER be an attempt to 'change' the license in that way.
As for obnoxious, the Debian crowd is the most idealistic and more power to us!!!! I found your post more obnoxious than most (but not all) of the stuff you'll see on Debian lists. And Debian list are renowned for Flamewars:)
Not at all. If you come out with a similar box, upgrading would be easy. If anything, this make the 'computer' a truly appliance like thing.
Gee, I'm not locked into my toaster, or my oven, am I? I can junk the NIC and get something else IF something else is better. Remember, I'm not storing anything on the NIC (except a few bookmarks etc) So I'm totally free to use anything else instead. Try that on the average computer (Oh, I need to backup 10 gigs before I send my computer in to be replaced/fixed. Oops)
Slashdot Mirror
Mike told me about this a few months ago, and I'm very excited by it.m -debian
The Helium is a sweet tablet laptop, and we've got a mailing list for running Debian on it already:
http://lists.csail.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/heliu
It ships with Lycoris linux, and the laptop is available from other dealers under other names/brands, including with Windows bundled. Element sells it without.
The only things not working under Linux are the zc301 chip webcam and the 4in1 card reader, neither of which has linux drivers.
Must read for all of us libertarians and others:
. html
is part 4 (with links to the other 3 parts)
William Stone III explodes the Myth of Intellectual Property in a series of articles entitled
Law Versus Reality
http://www.webleyweb.com/tle/tle265-20040404-09
Part 1
quote from the article:
I've argued that information shares none of property's unique characteristics, therefore information cannot be treated as identical to property.
Hall writes: ".. GPL does not allow a company to take the software created by the sweat and work of another person, add a few lines of code to it and then sell it to make a huge profit."
In fact, the GPL _does_ allow this. There is no restriction in taking a GPLed piece of code, adding lines of code (or not) and then selling it to someone for $X dollars. (1 Jillion Dollars! finger to corner of mouth). In fact, it's completely allowed so long as the buyer recieves the _same_ GPL rights (and source on demand). Why someone would purchase a GPLed product (sans support or other value added) for such an amount is another question, but in fact, a number of people out there do just such a thing, including with code that the original author has changed license terms on and no longer provides GPLed code themselves. Once a GPLed copy is out there, it's out there. Which is a good thing. Despite SCO's claims.
[Major market players such as Mandrake began by 'adding lines of code' to existing products such as Red Hat.]
See my other response(s). But yes, when I said _applied_, I meant that as in already patched into the program. Of COURSE you can distribute patches separately without limitation. You can also distribute his original files without limitation (well, mostly, he does have some expiring clauses on certain programs - see other reply)
Not true:
From http://cr.yp.to/qmail/dist.html
If you want to distribute modified versions of qmail (including ports, no matter how minor the changes are) you'll have to get my approval. This does not mean approval of your distribution method, your intentions, your e-mail address, your haircut, or any other irrelevant information. It means a detailed review of the exact package that you want to distribute.
His licensing is not explicit in the software bundle itself. His webpage, while it could be argued, isn't enough of a license to hold up in court. This is one reason the GPL is required to be distributed: to insure that the licensing is clear and present at all times.
If DJB changed his web pages, do you really think a judge would argue with his right to change the license of the program. Yes, all previously downloaded copies would be under whatever terms were in force at the time, but go _read_ those terms:
installing your package produces exactly the same files, in exactly the same locations, that a user would obtain by installing one of my packages listed above
That is a big deal, that means no patched version, including security fixes, etc. Thus old versions would be obsoleted easily.
Not to mention:
You may distribute exact copies of any of the following packages, or precompiled packages under the same rules as above, until the termination date shown:
Termination Package
2002-04-01 daemontools-0.76.tar.gz
2002-04-01 ucspi-tcp-0.88.tar.gz
Don't get me wrong: I USE his stuff, I like his stuff, but the license issues are a sore point.
You can patch the program, just not release the patches applied. It's darn close to 'free', with a hitch that DJB can change the license at any time if he wishes. That alone is the problem.
If you were on Usenet, waiting for Doom to arrive, you got bored. SPISPOPD was the result.
A tribute site Richard Ward created... On the net, nothing ever dies, it's enshrined forever by someone.
Seth (yes, that original idspispopd cheatcode/FAQ guy)
Yes, Linux to AS/400 is totally doable.
Make sure the AS/400 is running TCP/IP, which means a recent OS version...
tn5250 is great, and will probably meet your needs, including printer support. There is an X version, and the console works great also.
Mochasoft's is ok, for closed source software.
Don't expect Client Access quality stuff (but then again, it's close in most ways).
Be sure and remember AS/400 is EBCDIC, so files transfered often need to be translated back and forth to ASCII. You can make the AS/400 talk FTP, Telnet, HTTP and more... so moving data back and forth is fairly easy. I used FTP a lot, automated jobs and so on.
I network admined for a few years in a mixed shop and never had problems with Linux AS/400 stuff, it was always possible to find a solution.
IBM is actually a good resource at this point: They really want to make everything Linux friendly.
http://www.marko.net/cheops/
Cheops is an Open Source Network User Interface. It is designed to be the network equivalent of a swiss-army knife, unifying your network utilities. Cheops does for the network what a file manager does for your filesystem.
And then:
http://cheops-ng.sourceforge.net/index.php
Cheops-ng (cheops next generation) description:
Cheops-ng is a Network management tool for mapping and monitoring your network. It has host/network discovery functionality as well as OS detection of hosts. Cheops-ng has the ability to probe hosts to see what services they are running. On some services, cheops-ng is actually able to see what program is running for a service and the version number of that program. Take a look at the screenshots page for a detailed look at some of the features of cheops-ng.
Peter Davis? Your website is down... email bounces too. What's the current location and status of MP3VoiceControl?
hope you see this...
We were scheduled to protest Wednesday in Portland. Should we cancel it?
I'm still not going to buy anything Adobe, and neither should you. The past few weeks has been Adobe Lawyer Month, and I won't forget that.
Discovering that this wasn't the first post it should have been, we ran to the Tardis, whipped out the sonic screwdriver and attempted to repair the time/space problem. Failing that, I offered CmdrTaco a jellybaby...
Total Flamebait.
:)
Go read the Social Contract, and you'll see there will NEVER be an attempt to 'change' the license in that way.
As for obnoxious, the Debian crowd is the most idealistic and more power to us!!!! I found your post more obnoxious than most (but not all) of the stuff you'll see on Debian lists. And Debian list are renowned for Flamewars
Next thing, you'll be telling the Usenet Oracle
wasn't really an Oracle either?
And that Santa Claus is really a irc bot gone
horribly wrong?
And that there are no dogs on the internet?
And that Al Gore did invent the internet?
BTW, yes they do, if they distribute it in any manner, they have to give source. Go read the GPL.
They modified blackbox, they will give sources for it. They didn't modify VNC (for instance) they must still give sources for it.
Done, asked for, it's coming. They will throw it onto a ftp site ASAP....
Control alt delete will do this (kill netscape and restart)
Also, just reboot, it only takes 1-2 minutes to reboot.
Webmail for now. Hotmail or Yahoo, for instance.
I understand the plans include adding an IMAP mail program (no local storage, so POP tends to be out)
That is one beauty of this: get a CD in the mail, and bingo, you are upgraded. So adding a IMAP program wouldn't be too hard.
It comes with ssh, telnet, VNC, citrix, irc, and you can Xhost +/- it, so you can use it as a Xterminal.
It's missing a few toys (network sound, etc) but give them some time. It DOES include mpg123 and an ogg player too.
Not at all. If you come out with a similar box, upgrading would be easy. If anything, this make the 'computer' a truly appliance like thing.
Gee, I'm not locked into my toaster, or my oven, am I? I can junk the NIC and get something else IF something else is better. Remember, I'm not storing anything on the NIC (except a few bookmarks etc) So I'm totally free to use anything else instead. Try that on the average computer (Oh, I need to backup 10 gigs before I send my computer in to be replaced/fixed. Oops)
1) DVD: replace the CD with one. it's just a laptop CD drive.
2) It'll do 1024x768, just not the stock CD version. they went for 'common' monitor size/freq
Yes. Bug netzero to release it. It exists. It works on Linux. You can only get it with the NIC right now.
Yes to static IPs... yes to no keyboard too.
The bios will work fine without a flash.
It's a standard bios.
This ain't an I-opener, and unlike the I-opener, the thinknic guys are very helpful.
add a HD if you want, but why? No challenge, and the space and PS aren't up to it. CD or flash is much more fun to play with and hack around on.
The motherboard should be overclockable, so take out the cyrix 266 and put in something stronger, etc... that might be fun. etc...etc...