Ya see! I suggest to read my posts so you might know something about my opinions... yet you ignore that and just make up which opinions that I have.
http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3386695&cid=42617223
Read sir. Then apologize. Your apology will already be accepted.
While Scientologists range from slightly crazy to dangerously crazy and are obviously biased against the book, this "review" is just as bad in the opposite direction and not particularly coherent either. Don't try to combat garbage with more garbage.
You do not have a good sample of Scientologists to make any determination of their level of sanity. You mostly see the overly visible Hollywood types who are, as Hollywood types seem to go, flambouyantly ridiculous. I'm a Scientologist. NOT in the cult known as the "Church of Scientology". Practicing outside the corruption that is going on. I'm not crazy. Feel free to read all my comments to make your own decision if you want.
If you want "bias", look at your comment. It basically says that to get the whole picture of what has been going on, you only need to hear the opinions of those that disagree with Scientology. To truly combat bias we should listen to ALL points of view. They're all valid.
This is the kind of talk that will spur DMCA2. Where only authorized computers with sufficient limitations, forced ISP activity reporting and government backdoors will be allowed to connect to the internet.
Because the current markets and business models developed around our old IP laws are more sacred than the natural development of technological innovation.
It's the same difference as with shooting an violent assailant with a gun and shooting a frail granny with a gun. The gun part, as it were, isn't the part that make the difference.
Well, let's keep this in perspective. I was replying to someone who was advocating killing someone by means of an act of war in response to a computer hack.
No, you route the damage to the attacker. A predator drone should do nicely.
Do you have the same response when the hackers' cause is fighting against government corruption? The crimes are the same, aren't they? Even if the philosophies behind them are very different.
There are books on the subject you can read to understand the subject so as to make an evaluation of whether you think it will be an answer that has value to you. I first read Dianetics: The Modern Science of Mental Health before having anything to do with the subject. I bought it off the shelf of a supermarket because I was looking for a solution to certain problems I was having with communication and feeling certain. I was in school...thinking I was going to be majoring in Psychology. But I'd just given up on that because I realized it simply had a million different theories and had a very low standard for "scientific validation".
And the reason for that is very simple. You can't measure experience. It is what it is to the person who experiences it.
I can really relate to the concern that some false technique may cause more problems than harm. One principle (and here is a big one that David Miscavige has thrown out the window!) of Scientology, that L. Ron Hubbard stressed, is that you never run a process that someone isn't interested in. But since DM wants to use the technology of Scientology as a weapon to silence any potential critic, he uses forced confessionals and all sorts of manipulation with the technology.
I really appreciate the sentiment that you don't intend to be rude. Let me assure you, you're not coming across that way to me. Let me try to address what Scientology is and how I think it gets mis-portrayed. It's the complete study of the mind and human soul by L. Ron Hubbard. It is intended to be an applied technology; meaning you use it to improve your life.
But Ron was very concerned about the subject becoming dictatorial and dogmatic. He didn't want a group of robots (which is what David Miscavige had created) getting moralistic about the subject. He just wanted people to try these techniques to address to improve their lives.
I agree that moral relativism is wrong when trying to decide what is right and wrong. But deciding whether Scientology works for you can only be decided by you. I'm not going to be one of these Tom Cruise types and tell you, "I have the only way," out some such non-sense. And neither would LRH. That is only a phenomenon of the modern David Miscavige cult.
So, regarding Xenu, Ron presented it as, "Well it seems that, when I dig deep into the human psyche, addressing this seems to get a result that people respond to." He believes that it must therefore be true. But no one applying that one technique (out of hundreds of thousands of techniques) is told or persuaded to believe it. It's up to the individual to form beliefs. Not LRH or anyone else. Just you.
I think what you don't understand is Scientology. The practice of the religion has nothing to do with what you believe. L. Ron Hubbard said, "If it is true to you, then it is true." But he encouraged people to not accept anything just because HE said it.
Scientology does not require any belief in any precept. You just apply it to your life to help. If it helps, then that's it.
Ron said a lot of things that I am not sure whether or not I believe. But I certainly don't believe it because he said it. What I am absolutely certain of, is that the subject of Scientology (of which you are focusing on one microgram out of tons of material) has worked to help me improve my own life. Do I still believe in Xenu? What makes you think I ever did? It has no importance.
I LOVE that story. I'd already read it before coming on here. Both of these stories are the current feature on Mark Rathbun's WordPress site right now.
The real question of importance to me (because I am a former member of the Co$ and currently practicing outside of the corrupt organization) is WHY did the Co$ feel a need to justify spending about a billion dollars on these buildings when they're empty. And the answer that question is reported on AT LENGTH in Alex Klein's article.
As a disillusioned (and now Independent) Scientologist I am very happy to see that someone is telling our story. Not a hate filled rant from a wild-eyed anti-religious zealot. But a very REAL story of the continuing struggle of the Scientologists who can see what's going on... against the corrupt and manipulative management that (until the internet) was able to silence all former member/critics.
One of the major problems with creating extremely powerful fan-less processors for mobile devices is heat. Heat problems increase to a square of scale variations when miniaturizing circuitry. If control of heat can be directed to increase the flow of heat away from NEMS and microchips adequately, we could see mobile devices that could compete with the most powerful current desktop processor.
But isn't it always possible (once rooted) to wipe the OS on an Android phone and put a cleaner freer version of Android on it? I may be mistaken but I thought it was usually possible. I always have. And I've never heard of that being possible on a Windows phone.
If ever there was a case for Free Software on mobile devices, this is it.
Thank God Ubuntu, Android and Tezin exist to disrupt the ole Microsoft/IBM/Apple oligarchy!
Not surprisingly, pricing has not yet been discussed.
If under $150, this might be my default Linux installation hard drive with a persistent installation.
One desktop with consistent programs and data on any computer I use would be very nice.
Google is not in a position to pressure Android phone/tablet manufacturers. Samsung, LG and HTC will all be open to other operating systems, given that Google is now a competitor of theirs as well as their free OS provider. Another free OS provider which does not compete with them will naturally look very tempting for business reasons.
The real threat is whether Ubuntu can survive in the current patent war. Samsung, LG and HTC have all fought in this war in favor of using Android. And I believe they would be happy to ally themselves with Ubuntu also, given the proper business incentives.
AC,
So you've posted a quote from one person, that is based on hearsay. And you've made an innuendo that because he wrote fiction that anything he does must be suspect. So how does that elevate you from the level of FUD exactly?
As a hater, you can sit on the side lines of any religion and make that same judgement. As someone who was looking for answers, with an unbiased eye, I found that Scientology has allowed me to find my own answers. At least hundreds of thousands of people have found it to work. I'm not going to stand here like some fanatic and insist it is "the one true way" like the "Tom Cruise" idiots of the world. If it works for you, great. If not, fine, keep looking. But smearing it without a real understanding of what it really is has a word for it: FUD.
I am a former member of the "Church" of Scientology. Practicing and in opposition to the corrupt organization run by David Miscavige.
Religious organizations that take confession from parishioners for spiritual cleansing need and deserve priest-penitent protection from law.
Of course, the corporate Scientology world abuses this position by using confessions against former parishioners. But I don't want to see the subject of Scientology lose the right to practice independently while keeping these legal rights for practitioners. Without that protection, many who could achieve spiritual salvation will not for fear of legal punishment.
I believe this approach to dealing with the organization is exactly appropriate. The practice of any religion can be run by an organization that turns out into a cult. The attacks that we see on "Scientology" should not really be directed at the subject of Scientology nor used to label the subject as a cult. It is the corrupt management by David Miscavige that really is to blame. And, yes, he IS criminal. He abuses staff, torments former members who try to practice outside his control, harasses members for donations relentlessly and, of course, he trashes freedom of speech to keep people from knowing of his crimes. Mark Rathbun is the former number 2 in charge of the Co$. He's out and posting on a blog on WordPress everything he knows. Check out his blog for a viewpoint you won't hear from anyone else.
You're absolutely right, Farmer Pete. And what is even worse is the number of young people going to college with no clue what they want to do, just because they've been told it's their next step.
I just graduated at the age of 38 with a BS in Mechanical Engineering. I was appalled at the number of young people at the University with no major and no direction going deep into debt. They would very likely find very rewarding carers in construction, firefighting or police work. Yet they accepted someone else's idea of what they should do and wasted a ton of cash in the meantime.
How these people don't fund education to the point of keeping down costs, I will never understand.
As a former member of the Church of Scientology, I can assure you that those criteria are what makes up a cult. Not a true religion.
True religion is usually followed outside of the walls of a cult. The same could be said about the Roman Catholic church. But, point being, cults are the corrupt organizations and religion is the personal meaning found by the true practicing individual. And so I use Linux Mint. While understanding the best hopes and dreams of RMS...and not allowing myself to be his "follower".
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Ya see! I suggest to read my posts so you might know something about my opinions ... yet you ignore that and just make up which opinions that I have.
http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3386695&cid=42617223
Read sir. Then apologize. Your apology will already be accepted.
While Scientologists range from slightly crazy to dangerously crazy and are obviously biased against the book, this "review" is just as bad in the opposite direction and not particularly coherent either. Don't try to combat garbage with more garbage.
You do not have a good sample of Scientologists to make any determination of their level of sanity. You mostly see the overly visible Hollywood types who are, as Hollywood types seem to go, flambouyantly ridiculous. I'm a Scientologist. NOT in the cult known as the "Church of Scientology". Practicing outside the corruption that is going on. I'm not crazy. Feel free to read all my comments to make your own decision if you want.
If you want "bias", look at your comment. It basically says that to get the whole picture of what has been going on, you only need to hear the opinions of those that disagree with Scientology. To truly combat bias we should listen to ALL points of view. They're all valid.
This is the kind of talk that will spur DMCA2. Where only authorized computers with sufficient limitations, forced ISP activity reporting and government backdoors will be allowed to connect to the internet.
Because the current markets and business models developed around our old IP laws are more sacred than the natural development of technological innovation.
It's the same difference as with shooting an violent assailant with a gun and shooting a frail granny with a gun. The gun part, as it were, isn't the part that make the difference.
Well, let's keep this in perspective. I was replying to someone who was advocating killing someone by means of an act of war in response to a computer hack.
No, you route the damage to the attacker. A predator drone should do nicely.
Do you have the same response when the hackers' cause is fighting against government corruption? The crimes are the same, aren't they? Even if the philosophies behind them are very different.
There are books on the subject you can read to understand the subject so as to make an evaluation of whether you think it will be an answer that has value to you. I first read Dianetics: The Modern Science of Mental Health before having anything to do with the subject. I bought it off the shelf of a supermarket because I was looking for a solution to certain problems I was having with communication and feeling certain. I was in school...thinking I was going to be majoring in Psychology. But I'd just given up on that because I realized it simply had a million different theories and had a very low standard for "scientific validation". And the reason for that is very simple. You can't measure experience. It is what it is to the person who experiences it. I can really relate to the concern that some false technique may cause more problems than harm. One principle (and here is a big one that David Miscavige has thrown out the window!) of Scientology, that L. Ron Hubbard stressed, is that you never run a process that someone isn't interested in. But since DM wants to use the technology of Scientology as a weapon to silence any potential critic, he uses forced confessionals and all sorts of manipulation with the technology.
I really appreciate the sentiment that you don't intend to be rude. Let me assure you, you're not coming across that way to me. Let me try to address what Scientology is and how I think it gets mis-portrayed. It's the complete study of the mind and human soul by L. Ron Hubbard. It is intended to be an applied technology; meaning you use it to improve your life.
But Ron was very concerned about the subject becoming dictatorial and dogmatic. He didn't want a group of robots (which is what David Miscavige had created) getting moralistic about the subject. He just wanted people to try these techniques to address to improve their lives.
I agree that moral relativism is wrong when trying to decide what is right and wrong. But deciding whether Scientology works for you can only be decided by you. I'm not going to be one of these Tom Cruise types and tell you, "I have the only way," out some such non-sense. And neither would LRH. That is only a phenomenon of the modern David Miscavige cult.
So, regarding Xenu, Ron presented it as, "Well it seems that, when I dig deep into the human psyche, addressing this seems to get a result that people respond to." He believes that it must therefore be true. But no one applying that one technique (out of hundreds of thousands of techniques) is told or persuaded to believe it. It's up to the individual to form beliefs. Not LRH or anyone else. Just you.
I think what you don't understand is Scientology. The practice of the religion has nothing to do with what you believe. L. Ron Hubbard said, "If it is true to you, then it is true." But he encouraged people to not accept anything just because HE said it. Scientology does not require any belief in any precept. You just apply it to your life to help. If it helps, then that's it. Ron said a lot of things that I am not sure whether or not I believe. But I certainly don't believe it because he said it. What I am absolutely certain of, is that the subject of Scientology (of which you are focusing on one microgram out of tons of material) has worked to help me improve my own life. Do I still believe in Xenu? What makes you think I ever did? It has no importance.
Before the internet, it was also difficult for people who were Scientologists to learn about the corruption going on. Not anymore.
I LOVE that story. I'd already read it before coming on here. Both of these stories are the current feature on Mark Rathbun's WordPress site right now. The real question of importance to me (because I am a former member of the Co$ and currently practicing outside of the corrupt organization) is WHY did the Co$ feel a need to justify spending about a billion dollars on these buildings when they're empty. And the answer that question is reported on AT LENGTH in Alex Klein's article. As a disillusioned (and now Independent) Scientologist I am very happy to see that someone is telling our story. Not a hate filled rant from a wild-eyed anti-religious zealot. But a very REAL story of the continuing struggle of the Scientologists who can see what's going on ... against the corrupt and manipulative management that (until the internet) was able to silence all former member/critics.
Kegels!
One of the major problems with creating extremely powerful fan-less processors for mobile devices is heat. Heat problems increase to a square of scale variations when miniaturizing circuitry. If control of heat can be directed to increase the flow of heat away from NEMS and microchips adequately, we could see mobile devices that could compete with the most powerful current desktop processor.
But isn't it always possible (once rooted) to wipe the OS on an Android phone and put a cleaner freer version of Android on it? I may be mistaken but I thought it was usually possible. I always have. And I've never heard of that being possible on a Windows phone.
If ever there was a case for Free Software on mobile devices, this is it. Thank God Ubuntu, Android and Tezin exist to disrupt the ole Microsoft/IBM/Apple oligarchy!
Not surprisingly, pricing has not yet been discussed.
If under $150, this might be my default Linux installation hard drive with a persistent installation. One desktop with consistent programs and data on any computer I use would be very nice.
To dissuade his own son from being a bum, he encourages other sons to be a bum. What a selfless man.
Google is not in a position to pressure Android phone/tablet manufacturers. Samsung, LG and HTC will all be open to other operating systems, given that Google is now a competitor of theirs as well as their free OS provider. Another free OS provider which does not compete with them will naturally look very tempting for business reasons. The real threat is whether Ubuntu can survive in the current patent war. Samsung, LG and HTC have all fought in this war in favor of using Android. And I believe they would be happy to ally themselves with Ubuntu also, given the proper business incentives.
No, no! That's the M.O. for Linux. Not Ubuntu.
AC, So you've posted a quote from one person, that is based on hearsay. And you've made an innuendo that because he wrote fiction that anything he does must be suspect. So how does that elevate you from the level of FUD exactly?
As a hater, you can sit on the side lines of any religion and make that same judgement. As someone who was looking for answers, with an unbiased eye, I found that Scientology has allowed me to find my own answers. At least hundreds of thousands of people have found it to work. I'm not going to stand here like some fanatic and insist it is "the one true way" like the "Tom Cruise" idiots of the world. If it works for you, great. If not, fine, keep looking. But smearing it without a real understanding of what it really is has a word for it: FUD.
I am a former member of the "Church" of Scientology. Practicing and in opposition to the corrupt organization run by David Miscavige. Religious organizations that take confession from parishioners for spiritual cleansing need and deserve priest-penitent protection from law. Of course, the corporate Scientology world abuses this position by using confessions against former parishioners. But I don't want to see the subject of Scientology lose the right to practice independently while keeping these legal rights for practitioners. Without that protection, many who could achieve spiritual salvation will not for fear of legal punishment.
I believe this approach to dealing with the organization is exactly appropriate. The practice of any religion can be run by an organization that turns out into a cult. The attacks that we see on "Scientology" should not really be directed at the subject of Scientology nor used to label the subject as a cult. It is the corrupt management by David Miscavige that really is to blame. And, yes, he IS criminal. He abuses staff, torments former members who try to practice outside his control, harasses members for donations relentlessly and, of course, he trashes freedom of speech to keep people from knowing of his crimes. Mark Rathbun is the former number 2 in charge of the Co$. He's out and posting on a blog on WordPress everything he knows. Check out his blog for a viewpoint you won't hear from anyone else.
The Heisenberg Principle states that measuring anything changes it. So I don't check anything to see if it works for fear of it falling apart.
You're absolutely right, Farmer Pete. And what is even worse is the number of young people going to college with no clue what they want to do, just because they've been told it's their next step. I just graduated at the age of 38 with a BS in Mechanical Engineering. I was appalled at the number of young people at the University with no major and no direction going deep into debt. They would very likely find very rewarding carers in construction, firefighting or police work. Yet they accepted someone else's idea of what they should do and wasted a ton of cash in the meantime. How these people don't fund education to the point of keeping down costs, I will never understand.
As a former member of the Church of Scientology, I can assure you that those criteria are what makes up a cult. Not a true religion. True religion is usually followed outside of the walls of a cult. The same could be said about the Roman Catholic church. But, point being, cults are the corrupt organizations and religion is the personal meaning found by the true practicing individual. And so I use Linux Mint. While understanding the best hopes and dreams of RMS...and not allowing myself to be his "follower".