Because I would have shot the TSA agent, because I felt threatened, and was Standing My Ground.
I don't usually side with the gun-nuts, but I'm beginning to think it would be a good idea if everyone on the plane *was* allowed to bring a gun. What's a terrorist going to do if he has to face an entire plane full of people with loaded weapons?
Heck, even the unruly fat passenger who wants 30 bottles of vodka and is having the loud argument with the stewardess would be a lot nicer if he knew that there were 300 armed people on-board.
It's like that car-analogy about having a large spike in the middle of the steering wheel -- people would drive more reasonably if the probability was much higher that they wouldn't even survive a fender-bender.
Get rid of the TSA, and issue every passenger a gun. It's like nuclear deterrence, suddenly we're all going to get along fine on the flight.
I'm an American. In order to attend the Olympics, I have to be stripped naked and groped in order to get on the airplane. Anything I do during this procedure that is not ordered by the goon squad is likely to have me arrested, where I can be strip searched again in Jail.
When and if I get on a plane, anything of value in my luggage, such as ipods, cameras, and laptops are likely to be stolen by the baggage handlers, who are not searched and groped by the TSA, apparently.
When and if I land in London, I'm likely to be searched again, what for, who the hell knows, but apparently it's standard procedure. At this point, I discover I've been robbed, but there's no way to file a claim, and yelling about it is just likely to get me arrested.
And when I attend the games, I'm going to be sued for using my eyes and brain as a copyright infringement device, assuming I haven't shelled out for a new camera to replace the one that's stolen. And I would have to post the pictures to the internet, because I can't keep them in the flashcard of the camera, because that will be stolen on the return trip (or confiscated by customs).
Yeah, let me see... Nope, I don't think I will be attending the games, or even watching on TV. Because who knows, they might sue me for watching it on TV. It's going to happen sooner or later, who wants to be the first test case?
What you don't know is that Bakardy hired Tesla to create a machine which performs the trick. And, every night after the performance, workers have to remove large boxes full of drowned flowers, secretly out through the stage door and into a warehouse...
And what lame apologist excuse will you use when the TSA is groping people at bus terminals, train stations, cruise ship terminals, and even at random stops along the nation's highways?
"If you don't like the TSA, never leave your house! That's what the internet is for!" Is that what you'll say?
EXCEPT, as has been pointed out by several other cases, when you're in the airport, you're no longer in part of the USA or any "State", so the "laws" under which the rest of the country operates under no longer apply.
This airport may have its own obscenity laws which this person has violated. Of course, they may not, but it doesn't matter. People now are arrested all the time at airports, for any reason, without necessarily having violated any law.
Hell, we've been holding people in jails for years and they've never even been charged with a CRIME.
What USA do you think you're living in where you can quote a Oregon law and think that applies at an airport?
Horrah for this man! We need to do EVERYTHING we can RIGHT NOW to defend and support his actions.
For those of you that do not remember Cindy Sheehan, she was a lone war protester, who was ridiculed initially, by the media, by officials, and everyone else, but she bravely kept it up and turned the country around to questioning the war instead of just being "rah rah, go usa"
This person now needs our support before he's thrown in jail and made to disappear. The media need to support him, NOT ridicule him, as I'm sure they will, assuming they cover this story AT ALL.
We need to take the fight up and shed light on it, make the media question the TSA, and whether we're over-reaching in our response to 9/11.
This dude has sacrificed himself for the rest of us. Don't let his sacrifice be in vain.
Than nuclear has... Imagine if a few months after Deepwater Horizon the USA had said 'We're not using any more oil. Period." How would we make up that considerable energy gap?
This is essentially what Japan is doing. They are slitting their own throats for a PR move. At least 30% of their electricity comes from nuclear. How are they going to make that up? It's like asking them to go back to the 60's and start all over again in terms of infrastructure.
For a country that is an industrial giant, it's not a good idea to lose 30% of your energy capacity. I mean, even if you switched everyone over to LED lightbulbs instead of incandescent, I still don't think you'd get 30%
After all, they aren't going to get free heathcare, no birth control, and no abortions. It's the religious right's wet dream. Keep your women under control, in the kitchen, barefoot and pregnant.
I work for a major fortune 500. We're locked into XP at the moment, and from the looks of things, I see no reason that this is going to change anytime within the next 5 or 6 years. We have significant investment under XP, and all of our current in-house applications are written and tuned for XP.
And with more than half of our development now happening "offshore", it's a good bet we'll be staying with XP -- because our developers use XP. With a company this size, a rollout of Win-8 would cost many billions of dollars, plus a few billion in training costs alone!
Has any *major* corporation invested in Win-7 or even have a plan to roll out Win-8? I think MS is trying to compete in an area they don't belong, and is cutting off their nose to spite their face, so to speak, by snubbing their big corporate clients in favor of a tablet computing fad.
Why does Sony keep coming out with "Storage solutions", when the other arm of Sony doesn't want us to save *anything*?
I mean, come on Sony... have you ever considered that those evil pirates are downloading your music/movies because you're giving them the tech to save a billion terrabytes of stuff? What do you think they are going to fill up all that space with?
If computers were only 16mb of ram and a 40mb hard drive, they couldn't save a 4gb movie, now could they? Come-on man, think!
Then why isn't Mars just bursting with plant life? You'd think we could land a strain of Kudzu on Mars and it would be terraformed in a week.
The claims made on their website sound like a 12yr-old wrote it. They so lack a scientific background that it makes me weep for the future of the USA. And the planet.
USA... destroying itself and the planet... a little at a time.
So, without realizing it, we're ALREADY colonizing our galaxy. Life bearing rocks from earth hit other planets, those planets also experience trauma sooner or later, ejecting their rocks into space millions of years later, after life had caught on, and so on and so on.
Therefore, Earth may be a colony of some other civilization from billions of years ago, or, we're creating colonies as we speak.
I challenge ANY teacher to fail any kid or write "Wrong answer" on a test. Now you can sue the school if Johnny doesn't want to learn to read or write or do math, because God says he's right.
After all, God says Rick Santorum should be president, and we see how right God is so far on that front.
So now "God says" is a suitable answer for any test. Just ask Bill O'Reilly, who claims that the Tides going in and out are proof of God -- teach that one in science class. Moon's gravity pulling on the oceans? Bah! Superstition! 'God Says' is the right answer now!
WIsh I could'a used that for my SAT tests, I would have gotten a perfect score and attended Harvard!
What's the difference? Santorum said that he wanted to BAN all pornography. In order to do that, he's have to essentially disconnect American from the internet and build his own "clean" version.
Really now, is there ANY difference? This is a guy being seriously considered as leader of the "free" world. Sure, he's way behind Romney, but clearly, his mouth is making traction.
There's a far right element in this country, the "Christian Taliban" that wants this kind of thing, along with women having no control over their own bodies, and making less than a man because men care more about money.
The USA and Iran are not so different as you would think, as radical elements within their own governments want to strip away the rights of the people and install fear-mongering dictatorships. Remember that as your nutsack is groped by a TSA agent.
I "may" have a nuclear bomb in my basement. I "may" be able to fly by flapping my arms really fast.
May is such a loaded term, and then combined with the magic boogie-man of "child porn", why, that's a justification for just about *anything*.
And while we're on this subject, why don't we go after the RIAA for Child Porn? I mean, it seems like a pretty fair deal, we have plenty of proof:
Ringo Starr: "You're 16, you're beautiful and you're mine" Gary Puckett: "Young Girl, get out of my mind" Sting: "Don't stand so close to me"...and others. Hell, half of the RIAA's catalog is about jailbait. I think the FBI needs to investigate.
"The logic is that the people are being put into the population of prisons/jails with other prisoners, and thus could pose a risk (whether it be contraband, lice, disease, gang membership, etc.), and thus the jailers are justified in subjecting them to a strip search."
Yes, in fact, one of the things they are SPECIFICALLY looking for are tattoos.
I am reminded of the Witch Trials of long ago that we considered so barbaric in our "civilized" society.
One of the very first things done to the accused witch was to strip search them for "Devils Marks", or other details hidden on their body that might be signs of being in league with a demon.
Of course (as was often done with women), this was really a pretext to rape the accused, by the inquisitor. I wonder how far we are from that point in our backwards advancement towards a feudal society.
If we survive the next hundred years, history books written about this time will make us seem barbaric, and certainly insane. But this is assuming we will even have history books in 100 years.
Which law? Can I go through a normal day without breaking a law? Depending upon where I live, getting out of bed, taking a shower and making coffee might be breaking some law. There are so many laws now, with incomprehensible lawyer gibberish, that technically, turning on your TV at some time in the evening might be breaking a law.
Th e average citizen is in NO position to determine if they are or are not breaking a law with each passing breath.
And yes, as parent pointed out above, you can be arrested for any reason, and no reason needs to be given. And if you ask for a reason, then you are resisting arrest, which is probably a worse charge than the no reason you were originally being arrested for.
So basically, for no reason, you can be hauled in and strip searched. I hope you're wearing your clean undies.
And ladies.. Well, don't leave the house without your burka.
I'm afraid YOU didn't even read the article. In the case in question, a man was arrested for not paying a traffic ticket.
Except that he had. He even showed the officer documentation that proved he had paid the fine. The officer CHOSE TO IGNORE that documentation and had the person arrested.
That person spent a week in jail, and underwent 2 strip searches during that time BEFORE he had time with a judge at which point, the case was dismissed, because, oh look, he had DOCUMENTATION.
So my question for you is: which would you rather have: "innocent man jailed, humiliated, then set free" or "cop was a douchebag, relieved from duty"
SCOTUS is upholding "cop is a douchebag, please continue to be a douchebag because we WANT you to intimidate the nation, so the fucking sheep stay in their place."
They have tanks, and planes, drones, grenades, SWAT teams, yadda, yadda. Waco Texas should have proved to you that you can't fight them. They have too much military power.
So, we have no choice but to shoot at each other and do their job FOR THEM.
Look at what happened in Argentina when the economic crisis crashed the economy. The government survived, but it was chaos in the streets. People shooting each other for food, rampant crime, corrupt cops, but the government used it's resources to save itself, and protect itself FROM the people.
That's the way we are headed. The 2nd Amendment doesn't matter because we have no way to defeat our own government. They can crush us.
Sure, people will try and it will be reported on TV as "a group with small arms we gunned down by the police" and we'll go on about our day trying to defend ourselves from other people trying to steal our food, rape our daughters, take our car, etc.
Do a little research. And stock up on food and water.
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Because I would have shot the TSA agent, because I felt threatened, and was Standing My Ground.
I don't usually side with the gun-nuts, but I'm beginning to think it would be a good idea if everyone on the plane *was* allowed to bring a gun. What's a terrorist going to do if he has to face an entire plane full of people with loaded weapons?
Heck, even the unruly fat passenger who wants 30 bottles of vodka and is having the loud argument with the stewardess would be a lot nicer if he knew that there were 300 armed people on-board.
It's like that car-analogy about having a large spike in the middle of the steering wheel -- people would drive more reasonably if the probability was much higher that they wouldn't even survive a fender-bender.
Get rid of the TSA, and issue every passenger a gun. It's like nuclear deterrence, suddenly we're all going to get along fine on the flight.
But I offered my opinion on my blog regarding a recently released film.... Should I be worried that North Carolina will be coming for me next?
I guess now that that 4th amendment is dead in the USA, the 1st amendment can't be far behind. Zeig Heil.
I.B.M. == Internal Breathing Mechanism?
It's Battery Magic?
Come up with something on target for a new battery company....
I'm an American. In order to attend the Olympics, I have to be stripped naked and groped in order to get on the airplane. Anything I do during this procedure that is not ordered by the goon squad is likely to have me arrested, where I can be strip searched again in Jail.
When and if I get on a plane, anything of value in my luggage, such as ipods, cameras, and laptops are likely to be stolen by the baggage handlers, who are not searched and groped by the TSA, apparently.
When and if I land in London, I'm likely to be searched again, what for, who the hell knows, but apparently it's standard procedure. At this point, I discover I've been robbed, but there's no way to file a claim, and yelling about it is just likely to get me arrested.
And when I attend the games, I'm going to be sued for using my eyes and brain as a copyright infringement device, assuming I haven't shelled out for a new camera to replace the one that's stolen. And I would have to post the pictures to the internet, because I can't keep them in the flashcard of the camera, because that will be stolen on the return trip (or confiscated by customs).
Yeah, let me see... Nope, I don't think I will be attending the games, or even watching on TV. Because who knows, they might sue me for watching it on TV. It's going to happen sooner or later, who wants to be the first test case?
What you don't know is that Bakardy hired Tesla to create a machine which performs the trick. And, every night after the performance, workers have to remove large boxes full of drowned flowers, secretly out through the stage door and into a warehouse...
And what lame apologist excuse will you use when the TSA is groping people at bus terminals, train stations, cruise ship terminals, and even at random stops along the nation's highways?
"If you don't like the TSA, never leave your house! That's what the internet is for!" Is that what you'll say?
EXCEPT, as has been pointed out by several other cases, when you're in the airport, you're no longer in part of the USA or any "State", so the "laws" under which the rest of the country operates under no longer apply.
This airport may have its own obscenity laws which this person has violated. Of course, they may not, but it doesn't matter. People now are arrested all the time at airports, for any reason, without necessarily having violated any law.
Hell, we've been holding people in jails for years and they've never even been charged with a CRIME.
What USA do you think you're living in where you can quote a Oregon law and think that applies at an airport?
And the strip search after he's been arrested will progress more smoothly as well.
Why is it that the authorities always want you naked, and then when you actually get naked, they charge you with a crime?
blah.. blah.. lameness filter.. jibber jabber...
Thank you both... you have restored my faith in Slashdot.
Horrah for this man! We need to do EVERYTHING we can RIGHT NOW to defend and support his actions.
For those of you that do not remember Cindy Sheehan, she was a lone war protester, who was ridiculed initially, by the media, by officials, and everyone else, but she bravely kept it up and turned the country around to questioning the war instead of just being "rah rah, go usa"
This person now needs our support before he's thrown in jail and made to disappear. The media need to support him, NOT ridicule him, as I'm sure they will, assuming they cover this story AT ALL.
We need to take the fight up and shed light on it, make the media question the TSA, and whether we're over-reaching in our response to 9/11.
This dude has sacrificed himself for the rest of us. Don't let his sacrifice be in vain.
Than nuclear has... Imagine if a few months after Deepwater Horizon the USA had said 'We're not using any more oil. Period." How would we make up that considerable energy gap?
This is essentially what Japan is doing. They are slitting their own throats for a PR move. At least 30% of their electricity comes from nuclear. How are they going to make that up? It's like asking them to go back to the 60's and start all over again in terms of infrastructure.
For a country that is an industrial giant, it's not a good idea to lose 30% of your energy capacity. I mean, even if you switched everyone over to LED lightbulbs instead of incandescent, I still don't think you'd get 30%
After all, they aren't going to get free heathcare, no birth control, and no abortions. It's the religious right's wet dream. Keep your women under control, in the kitchen, barefoot and pregnant.
Brundlefly/telepod synthesis started....
I work for a major fortune 500. We're locked into XP at the moment, and from the looks of things, I see no reason that this is going to change anytime within the next 5 or 6 years. We have significant investment under XP, and all of our current in-house applications are written and tuned for XP.
And with more than half of our development now happening "offshore", it's a good bet we'll be staying with XP -- because our developers use XP. With a company this size, a rollout of Win-8 would cost many billions of dollars, plus a few billion in training costs alone!
Has any *major* corporation invested in Win-7 or even have a plan to roll out Win-8? I think MS is trying to compete in an area they don't belong, and is cutting off their nose to spite their face, so to speak, by snubbing their big corporate clients in favor of a tablet computing fad.
Why does Sony keep coming out with "Storage solutions", when the other arm of Sony doesn't want us to save *anything*?
I mean, come on Sony... have you ever considered that those evil pirates are downloading your music/movies because you're giving them the tech to save a billion terrabytes of stuff? What do you think they are going to fill up all that space with?
If computers were only 16mb of ram and a 40mb hard drive, they couldn't save a 4gb movie, now could they? Come-on man, think!
Then why isn't Mars just bursting with plant life? You'd think we could land a strain of Kudzu on Mars and it would be terraformed in a week.
The claims made on their website sound like a 12yr-old wrote it. They so lack a scientific background that it makes me weep for the future of the USA. And the planet.
USA... destroying itself and the planet... a little at a time.
So, without realizing it, we're ALREADY colonizing our galaxy. Life bearing rocks from earth hit other planets, those planets also experience trauma sooner or later, ejecting their rocks into space millions of years later, after life had caught on, and so on and so on.
Therefore, Earth may be a colony of some other civilization from billions of years ago, or, we're creating colonies as we speak.
Let's teach the controversy!
I challenge ANY teacher to fail any kid or write "Wrong answer" on a test. Now you can sue the school if Johnny doesn't want to learn to read or write or do math, because God says he's right.
After all, God says Rick Santorum should be president, and we see how right God is so far on that front.
So now "God says" is a suitable answer for any test. Just ask Bill O'Reilly, who claims that the Tides going in and out are proof of God -- teach that one in science class. Moon's gravity pulling on the oceans? Bah! Superstition! 'God Says' is the right answer now!
WIsh I could'a used that for my SAT tests, I would have gotten a perfect score and attended Harvard!
What's the difference? Santorum said that he wanted to BAN all pornography. In order to do that, he's have to essentially disconnect American from the internet and build his own "clean" version.
Really now, is there ANY difference? This is a guy being seriously considered as leader of the "free" world. Sure, he's way behind Romney, but clearly, his mouth is making traction.
There's a far right element in this country, the "Christian Taliban" that wants this kind of thing, along with women having no control over their own bodies, and making less than a man because men care more about money.
The USA and Iran are not so different as you would think, as radical elements within their own governments want to strip away the rights of the people and install fear-mongering dictatorships. Remember that as your nutsack is groped by a TSA agent.
I "may" have a nuclear bomb in my basement. I "may" be able to fly by flapping my arms really fast.
May is such a loaded term, and then combined with the magic boogie-man of "child porn", why, that's a justification for just about *anything*.
And while we're on this subject, why don't we go after the RIAA for Child Porn? I mean, it seems like a pretty fair deal, we have plenty of proof:
Ringo Starr: "You're 16, you're beautiful and you're mine" ...and others. Hell, half of the RIAA's catalog is about jailbait. I think the FBI needs to investigate.
Gary Puckett: "Young Girl, get out of my mind"
Sting: "Don't stand so close to me"
Maybe we can shut down facebook to investigate? Or, when you reach a certain size, you're immune to prosecution?
Nice to see the America way of corruption and greed, lies and boogie-man politics are as alive as ever. What a crock.
"The logic is that the people are being put into the population of prisons/jails with other prisoners, and thus could pose a risk (whether it be contraband, lice, disease, gang membership, etc.), and thus the jailers are justified in subjecting them to a strip search."
Yes, in fact, one of the things they are SPECIFICALLY looking for are tattoos.
I am reminded of the Witch Trials of long ago that we considered so barbaric in our "civilized" society.
One of the very first things done to the accused witch was to strip search them for "Devils Marks", or other details hidden on their body that might be signs of being in league with a demon.
Of course (as was often done with women), this was really a pretext to rape the accused, by the inquisitor. I wonder how far we are from that point in our backwards advancement towards a feudal society.
If we survive the next hundred years, history books written about this time will make us seem barbaric, and certainly insane. But this is assuming we will even have history books in 100 years.
"Don't break the law" he says...
Which law? Can I go through a normal day without breaking a law? Depending upon where I live, getting out of bed, taking a shower and making coffee might be breaking some law. There are so many laws now, with incomprehensible lawyer gibberish, that technically, turning on your TV at some time in the evening might be breaking a law.
Th e average citizen is in NO position to determine if they are or are not breaking a law with each passing breath.
And yes, as parent pointed out above, you can be arrested for any reason, and no reason needs to be given. And if you ask for a reason, then you are resisting arrest, which is probably a worse charge than the no reason you were originally being arrested for.
So basically, for no reason, you can be hauled in and strip searched. I hope you're wearing your clean undies.
And ladies.. Well, don't leave the house without your burka.
I'm afraid YOU didn't even read the article. In the case in question, a man was arrested for not paying a traffic ticket.
Except that he had. He even showed the officer documentation that proved he had paid the fine. The officer CHOSE TO IGNORE that documentation and had the person arrested.
That person spent a week in jail, and underwent 2 strip searches during that time BEFORE he had time with a judge at which point, the case was dismissed, because, oh look, he had DOCUMENTATION.
So my question for you is: which would you rather have: "innocent man jailed, humiliated, then set free"
or
"cop was a douchebag, relieved from duty"
SCOTUS is upholding "cop is a douchebag, please continue to be a douchebag because we WANT you to intimidate the nation, so the fucking sheep stay in their place."
And thank you for agreeing with them. Douchebag.
We can't fight THEM.
They have tanks, and planes, drones, grenades, SWAT teams, yadda, yadda. Waco Texas should have proved to you that you can't fight them. They have too much military power.
So, we have no choice but to shoot at each other and do their job FOR THEM.
Look at what happened in Argentina when the economic crisis crashed the economy. The government survived, but it was chaos in the streets. People shooting each other for food, rampant crime, corrupt cops, but the government used it's resources to save itself, and protect itself FROM the people.
That's the way we are headed. The 2nd Amendment doesn't matter because we have no way to defeat our own government. They can crush us.
Sure, people will try and it will be reported on TV as "a group with small arms we gunned down by the police" and we'll go on about our day trying to defend ourselves from other people trying to steal our food, rape our daughters, take our car, etc.
Do a little research. And stock up on food and water.