No, we're not acting as if we had no clue. We knew a lot of this was going on. Perhaps not to the fullest extent. But, what we did not have was any legal evidence. Thanks to Snowden, we do. And I think a reason that a lot of folks like Yahoo's CEO and Mark Zuck-- are now talking. Is because it is an out in the open and officially acknowledged matter. And they're trying to drop the hints that it is far worse than the American people realize.
But knowing something is going on, and having legal proof is two very different things. We knew who broke into my mother's house and stole her laptop. But we had no legal proof to file charges or have that man arrested. Likewise, Snowden gave us the legal proof.
Hmm, looks at the Canadian quarter in his pocket. Ah...the queen.
Just saying...
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Oh, and a large part of why the British Empire states are free today is BECAUSE America rebelled. It was a costly Vietnam type war for the British. The British citizens didn't want to be on the side of the ethics battle. And oh, yeah, we kind bailed out our British friends in two World Wars.
First off, terrorist is one who attacks civilians. Second, if our government stoops that low. So as to arrest CEOs who speak out against their unconstitutional actions.
I don't think they'll have enough prisons to hold all of the declared "terrorists", a.k.a. "Americans".
I honestly feel we need a hero. We need someone of high profile, like Mark Zuckerberg, Google CEOs, someone big to basically come out with a whole dump of what's going on.
And if they did so, and found themselves arrested...then it is time for us to support freedom over tyranny.
My pledge is in regards to if they come out and reveal the details and then are in fact arrested and charged with crimes of treason. I don't believe AT&T has been charged with crimes of treason or arrested.
When you're talking about secret courts and domestic spying. We are talking about gross violations of the Constitution. (And let's be honest, you're not dumb enough to believe that the FIS is only surveilling foreign communications. I'm sorry, please...)
Oh, mind you, the Constitution is superior to even the courts. And while the Supreme Court makes a determination of what's constitutional. And is a check and balance along with the other two branches. There is a fourth branch of the American system. It is called "We the People", and it is a final check and balance.
And let's not forget the EFFs FOIA request which showed that the FISC court itself feels the NSA is grossly and repeatedly in violation.
Thomas Payne's words were worth thousands of rifles. Probably why the "Freedom of Speech" is the first amendment, and the rifles to back it up the second.;-)
Oh trust me, many people care about our rifles. Or the government wouldn't be trying to hard to ban semi-automatic rifles. (Which are pretty much rarely used in crimes. Outside a few high profile cases. But in the day to day crimes, which cause most of the deaths. They are extremely rare.)
I think it was more so, that "Hey, we will arrest you. Crash your company. And or replace you. And we'll use illicit means to make it happen. Hell, we might just bump you off if you don't comply. Either way your company will comply, whether its you or the next guy."
Oops, I'm sorry, I said I pro-Israel and got Modded down. I should explain.
People who stand in front of their children armed with rifles makes far more sense than those who stand behind their children armed with rifles. I can understand one who says we are protecting our families and children by killing. I cannot understand one who claims to protect their family and children by using them as bombs. Does not compute.
So I can relate much more to Israel's stance. That, and far far far far far more arabs are being killed by their own in the likes of Syria, Lebanon, Iraq, etc, etc. Than Israel ever has...
I hereby, as a prior serviceman who swore an oath to uphold and protect the Constitution, pledge my rifle if Mr. Zuckerberg or Ms. Mayer, CEOs of Facebook and Yahoo respectively, come out with the truth of the extent of violation by the government against the privacy of the citizens of the United States of America. And herby pledge my rifle to the their defense, the defense of the Constitution and freedom of speech if either is arrested, charged and sentenced for treason in regards to the matter of the NSA's unconstitutional espionage on U.S. citizens. This is a reminder that the government is to serve the People, not the other way around.
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U.S. CONSTITUTION : AMENDMENTS TO THE CONSTITUTION : ARTICLE IV "The right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers, and effects, against unreasonable searches and seizures, shall not be violated, and no Warrants shall issue, but upon probable cause, supported by Oath or affirmation, and particularly describing the place to be searched, and the persons or things to be seized."
Government agencies not specifically sent this message that reading this, please
I'm fairly pro-Israel. But it seems to me that.gov is accusing.snowden of being a traitor for sharing classified information. And yet, would not sharing that same information with a foreign power be a far more grievous example of treason?
I'm just confused?
Dear NSA, since you're reading this, can you explain it for us.
Yes, that was happening. And even Pluto seemed to be following along. And I never heard a good explanation for it. One AGW Alarmist tried to explain about orbits. And that Mars was just moving closer to the sun. However, these warming results in all cases were warming retrospective to what was expected.
When you cheat, you usually do so to gain something. I'm not sure Team Oracle was really trying to chear here. You see, these little matches in the AC45 determine who will be the challenger. But Team Oracle is the defendent. So there is no need to place. For Team Oracle these races are for them to hone skills, gain a batter understanding of how these new designs work.
So what is gained by winning these races, for Team Oracle, nothing. (If it were the foreign teams then there was something to gain, the right of being the challenger.) But for Team Oracle only one win matters - the America's Cup.
So why do it? Why modify/add weight?
Because these are very knew designs and their handling and reactions are still knew. AC45s are strict class. The AC72 has a little bit more leeway for modifications. What I think happened, is that Oracle team members decided to see how different weight placement worked. If they discovered added wait before the mast, astern of the mast, or amidships improved handling. Then they would adjust their AC72 to reflect the weight placement (totally legal).
I think they just view this as an opportunity to run 4 different sailboats of the same design with just a few minor variances in weight balance. And evaluate the results. Which is rather different than "cheating".
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I'd say 18-24 months for a vaccine, and 12%-14% population loss due to a real influenza pandemic.
No, we're not acting as if we had no clue. We knew a lot of this was going on. Perhaps not to the fullest extent. But, what we did not have was any legal evidence. Thanks to Snowden, we do. And I think a reason that a lot of folks like Yahoo's CEO and Mark Zuck-- are now talking. Is because it is an out in the open and officially acknowledged matter. And they're trying to drop the hints that it is far worse than the American people realize.
But knowing something is going on, and having legal proof is two very different things. We knew who broke into my mother's house and stole her laptop. But we had no legal proof to file charges or have that man arrested. Likewise, Snowden gave us the legal proof.
I've been a vocal advocate for Snowden. I have contacted my congressmen. And were he arrested in America I'd probably be supporting rallies.
But I also think that this is a growing issue.
Hmm, looks at the Canadian quarter in his pocket. Ah...the queen.
Just saying...
***
Oh, and a large part of why the British Empire states are free today is BECAUSE America rebelled. It was a costly Vietnam type war for the British. The British citizens didn't want to be on the side of the ethics battle. And oh, yeah, we kind bailed out our British friends in two World Wars.
First off, terrorist is one who attacks civilians. Second, if our government stoops that low. So as to arrest CEOs who speak out against their unconstitutional actions.
I don't think they'll have enough prisons to hold all of the declared "terrorists", a.k.a. "Americans".
I honestly feel we need a hero. We need someone of high profile, like Mark Zuckerberg, Google CEOs, someone big to basically come out with a whole dump of what's going on.
And if they did so, and found themselves arrested...then it is time for us to support freedom over tyranny.
My pledge is in regards to if they come out and reveal the details and then are in fact arrested and charged with crimes of treason. I don't believe AT&T has been charged with crimes of treason or arrested.
;-)
When you're talking about secret courts and domestic spying. We are talking about gross violations of the Constitution. (And let's be honest, you're not dumb enough to believe that the FIS is only surveilling foreign communications. I'm sorry, please...)
Oh, mind you, the Constitution is superior to even the courts. And while the Supreme Court makes a determination of what's constitutional. And is a check and balance along with the other two branches. There is a fourth branch of the American system. It is called "We the People", and it is a final check and balance.
And let's not forget the EFFs FOIA request which showed that the FISC court itself feels the NSA is grossly and repeatedly in violation.
I'll take that....
Thomas Payne's words were worth thousands of rifles. Probably why the "Freedom of Speech" is the first amendment, and the rifles to back it up the second. ;-)
Oh trust me, many people care about our rifles. Or the government wouldn't be trying to hard to ban semi-automatic rifles. (Which are pretty much rarely used in crimes. Outside a few high profile cases. But in the day to day crimes, which cause most of the deaths. They are extremely rare.)
Yup....we just have a secret oligarchy rather than one man...
That was my point....
I have friends who see nothing wrong with NSA/TSA. They think I'm the one with issues because I do.
With such apathy and normalcy bias, how is a CEO to risk company and possibly life in standing up to a fascist government.
Except the people aren't going to arrest you, or send Mr. Smith to run your car off the road in a freak accident.
You just made me realize that we're on Team Oracle's yacht and losing badly. Penalized -2 to begin with, and now one race to 6.
Uh, she said she could wind up going to jail for treason.
I think it was more so, that "Hey, we will arrest you. Crash your company. And or replace you. And we'll use illicit means to make it happen. Hell, we might just bump you off if you don't comply. Either way your company will comply, whether its you or the next guy."
Don't we have to have a declared war to actually have a true charge of treason?
Oops, I'm sorry, I said I pro-Israel and got Modded down. I should explain.
People who stand in front of their children armed with rifles makes far more sense than those who stand behind their children armed with rifles. I can understand one who says we are protecting our families and children by killing. I cannot understand one who claims to protect their family and children by using them as bombs. Does not compute.
So I can relate much more to Israel's stance. That, and far far far far far more arabs are being killed by their own in the likes of Syria, Lebanon, Iraq, etc, etc. Than Israel ever has...
I hereby, as a prior serviceman who swore an oath to uphold and protect the Constitution, pledge my rifle if Mr. Zuckerberg or Ms. Mayer, CEOs of Facebook and Yahoo respectively, come out with the truth of the extent of violation by the government against the privacy of the citizens of the United States of America. And herby pledge my rifle to the their defense, the defense of the Constitution and freedom of speech if either is arrested, charged and sentenced for treason in regards to the matter of the NSA's unconstitutional espionage on U.S. citizens. This is a reminder that the government is to serve the People, not the other way around.
***
U.S. CONSTITUTION : AMENDMENTS TO THE CONSTITUTION : ARTICLE IV
"The right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers, and effects, against unreasonable searches and seizures, shall not be violated, and no Warrants shall issue, but upon probable cause, supported by Oath or affirmation, and particularly describing the place to be searched, and the persons or things to be seized."
Government agencies not specifically sent this message that reading this, please
No the real question is why he didn't simply have two mirrored SSDs.
I'm fairly pro-Israel. But it seems to me that .gov is accusing .snowden of being a traitor for sharing classified information. And yet, would not sharing that same information with a foreign power be a far more grievous example of treason?
I'm just confused?
Dear NSA, since you're reading this, can you explain it for us.
"We were acting on orders from the NSA. But we can't share that information with you."
Yes, that was happening. And even Pluto seemed to be following along. And I never heard a good explanation for it. One AGW Alarmist tried to explain about orbits. And that Mars was just moving closer to the sun. However, these warming results in all cases were warming retrospective to what was expected.
When you cheat, you usually do so to gain something. I'm not sure Team Oracle was really trying to chear here. You see, these little matches in the AC45 determine who will be the challenger. But Team Oracle is the defendent. So there is no need to place. For Team Oracle these races are for them to hone skills, gain a batter understanding of how these new designs work.
So what is gained by winning these races, for Team Oracle, nothing. (If it were the foreign teams then there was something to gain, the right of being the challenger.) But for Team Oracle only one win matters - the America's Cup.
So why do it? Why modify/add weight?
Because these are very knew designs and their handling and reactions are still knew. AC45s are strict class. The AC72 has a little bit more leeway for modifications. What I think happened, is that Oracle team members decided to see how different weight placement worked. If they discovered added wait before the mast, astern of the mast, or amidships improved handling. Then they would adjust their AC72 to reflect the weight placement (totally legal).
I think they just view this as an opportunity to run 4 different sailboats of the same design with just a few minor variances in weight balance. And evaluate the results. Which is rather different than "cheating".