What do you mean by "normal"? RedHat looks "normal" enough for me. It looks like they only "enhanced" it. All they did is add all bugfixes from the redhat.com so that students don't bother downloading, more secure default setup, so that newbies don't get hit by script kiddies and probably added software used for their engineering claseses, staroffice, etc.
Hurd is an unusable piece of kernel hacking crap. Unless you are a kernel hacker you're not going to find anything interesting in Hurd. It is beta, not wait, still deep-alpha quality OS. And yes, Linux after 2 years of development was ways ahead of hurd after 10 years of Development. go figure.
The Riva TNT driver was buggy, unfinished, incomplete , slow and a pain in a but to get working. Even if you get it to work, you are lucky to get half of the FPS that you get in windows on the same machine. Does Geforce glx suffer from this problem too?
Wrong, apt-get is a low level tool that runs on top of dpkg. Dselect is a higher level tool that runs on top of apt-get and dpkg (you can speciy apt as your access method from dselect) dselect allows you to do much more things than apt-get and usually easier.
I am a Debian old timer and yesterday I have tried stormix just for the heck of it (and also to test the new CD-R) I was impressed. The distribution seems not to have changed the Debian packages much, it is basically Debian. The good difference are that Storm Linux ships with kernel 2.2.13, _very_ cool X11 based and text based installation, GNOME, KDE. Also has a sysadmin utility which isn't bad (though does not configure printer afaik, only network nad users. I didn't like their packagemanager thingy, I prefer dselect. Just use plain apt, dselect. or dpkg. Basically it is a nice distro. Easy to get started with and has all the power of Debian underneath. I perefer plain Debian though...
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Use a distribution whose boot images use a kernel that was released AFTER the athlon release. linux kernel needed some K7 related patches to work right. You can try latest RedHat or SuSE or Debian 2.2 (potato) if you insist on Debian
This guy hangs around on unix and *bsd newsgroups and posts a lot of answers to people's questions, newbies and pros. He is also working on a FreeBSD documnetation project. Just make a simple www.deja.com search to see. This comment is not biased in any way (I am a Debian zealot myself:p)
If you think that you absolutely need a 800mhz CPU in your "primary system" you must be a monkey. IMO, anything faster than 400mhz is completely irrelevant to desktop apps users unless you are playing games or do other silly things. most desktop users don't need that power. And laptop on the other hand does no take much space on your desktop and you can walk with it around your house, plug into the library network at your university, work with it _everywhere_, etc
What is stopping you from compiling 2.2.x kernels on current Debian release? Any linux sysadmin should compile a customized kernel anyways. The current Debian stable release is 100% kernel 2.2.x ready.
Stop ranting since you haven't shown any real proof. Take a look at the SPEC95 stats which I found on compaqs and hp's sites. SPECint95 SPECfp95 PA-8500/440MHz 33 53 Alpha 21264/667mhz 44 66 Also, I'd bet that Alpha systems cost three times less. HP hardware is rediculously expensive. Compaq isn't much cheaper either, but you can buy Alpha based systems from independent integrators also.
I don't understand why so many people get excited about Opera. I can't believe there is a company that actually expects to make money by selling a web browser. Specially a web browser that has _less_ features than IE or Netscape or Mozilla. This is rediculous. Yes, it is somewhat faster, but this speed comes at a cost. Last time I have checked it did not have java support. Many sites just don't render correctly with it. I certainly wouldn't pay a dime for something like this. I am using Netscape 4.7 glibc2.0 version, Thank you very much.
While I hope this guy doesn't mean what he says, some of it resonates strongly with what people in this country are saying.
I does mean what he says. I am from ex USSR, I have known this guy since 1991. Also, among other things he has promissed to drop the nukes on Chechenia and dump radioactive waste in Baltic countries..
I want Quake2/3/Unreal Tournament framerates. I want to see distributed.net and seti@home rates. I want to know how fast it can compile a 2.2.9 linux kernel.
DUH, those are not CPU nechmarks. Games depends on too many things, not just the processor. Same is linux kernel compilation. If you want to see _CPU_ benchmarks check out Spec95 (www.spec.org) which is the industry standard, I am sure Intel and AMD publish it. Last time I checked, Spec95 numbers P3-733 was slightly faster than Athlon 700 in both, int and fp.
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What do you mean by "normal"? RedHat looks "normal" enough for me. It looks like they only "enhanced" it. All they did is add all bugfixes from the redhat.com so that students don't bother downloading, more secure default setup, so that newbies don't get hit by script kiddies and probably added software used for their engineering claseses, staroffice, etc.
Hurd is an unusable piece of kernel hacking crap. Unless you are a kernel hacker you're not going to find anything interesting in Hurd. It is beta, not wait, still deep-alpha quality OS. And yes, Linux after 2 years of development was ways ahead of hurd after 10 years of Development. go figure.
Will this XFree86 release make it into the soon-to-be-released-in-a-few-days Debian 2.2 (potato)?
The Riva TNT driver was buggy, unfinished, incomplete , slow and a pain in a but to get working. Even if you get it to work, you are lucky to get half of the FPS that you get in windows on the same machine. Does Geforce glx suffer from this problem too?
Wrong, apt-get is a low level tool that runs on top of dpkg. Dselect is a higher level tool that runs on top of apt-get and dpkg (you can speciy apt as your access method from dselect) dselect allows you to do much more things than apt-get and usually easier.
Stable is pretty good.
I beg to differ. The NFS is still quite broken.
I am a Debian old timer and yesterday I have tried stormix just for the heck of it (and also to test the new CD-R) I was impressed. The distribution seems not to have changed the Debian packages much, it is basically Debian. The good difference are that Storm Linux ships with kernel 2.2.13, _very_ cool X11 based and text based installation, GNOME, KDE. Also has a sysadmin utility which isn't bad (though does not configure printer afaik, only network nad users. I didn't like their packagemanager thingy, I prefer dselect. Just use plain apt, dselect. or dpkg. Basically it is a nice distro. Easy to get started with and has all the power of Debian underneath. I perefer plain Debian though...
Use a distribution whose boot images use a kernel that was released AFTER the athlon release. linux kernel needed some K7 related patches to work right. You can try latest RedHat or SuSE or
Debian 2.2 (potato) if you insist on Debian
Joking!
This guy hangs around on unix and *bsd newsgroups and posts a lot of answers to people's questions, newbies and pros. He is also working on a FreeBSD documnetation project. Just make a simple www.deja.com search to see. This comment is not biased in any way (I am a Debian zealot myself :p)
M-x emacs-sucks
In fact the first screen that you see when you start vim explains you how to quit it..
Really? They must be idiots if they could not figure out that pressing F1 brings a help screen.
This peice of software is a joy to use.
If you think that you absolutely need a 800mhz CPU in your "primary system" you must be a monkey. IMO, anything faster than 400mhz is completely irrelevant to desktop apps users unless you are playing games or do other silly things. most desktop users don't need that power. And laptop on the other hand does no take much space on your desktop and you can walk with it around your house, plug into the library network at your university, work with it _everywhere_, etc
What is stopping you from compiling 2.2.x kernels on current Debian release? Any linux sysadmin should compile a customized kernel anyways. The current Debian stable release is 100% kernel 2.2.x ready.
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Stop ranting since you haven't shown any real proof. Take a look at the SPEC95 stats which I found on compaqs and hp's sites. SPECint95 SPECfp95 PA-8500/440MHz 33 53 Alpha 21264/667mhz 44 66 Also, I'd bet that Alpha systems cost three times less. HP hardware is rediculously expensive. Compaq isn't much cheaper either, but you can buy Alpha based systems from independent integrators also.
I don't understand why so many people get excited about Opera. I can't believe there is a company that actually expects to make money by selling a web browser. Specially a web browser that has _less_ features than IE or Netscape or Mozilla. This is rediculous. Yes, it is somewhat faster, but this speed comes at a cost. Last time I have checked it did not have java support. Many sites just don't render correctly with it. I certainly wouldn't pay a dime for something like this. I am using Netscape 4.7 glibc2.0 version, Thank you very much.
While I hope this guy doesn't mean what he says, some of it resonates strongly with what people in this country are saying.
I does mean what he says.
I am from ex USSR, I have known this guy since 1991. Also, among other things he has promissed
to drop the nukes on Chechenia and dump radioactive waste in Baltic countries..
This is funny, I am in college and _most_ labs here use Solaris but the newer installations tend to be Linux (because of cheaper hardware).
Ever heard of Debian GNU/Linux?
Don't judge Linux is if it was all made by redhat.
I want Quake2/3/Unreal Tournament framerates. I want to see distributed.net and seti@home rates. I want to know how fast it can compile a 2.2.9 linux kernel.
DUH, those are not CPU nechmarks. Games depends on too many things, not just the processor. Same is linux kernel compilation.
If you want to see _CPU_ benchmarks check out Spec95 (www.spec.org) which is the industry standard, I am sure Intel and AMD publish it. Last time I checked, Spec95 numbers P3-733 was slightly faster than Athlon 700 in both, int and fp.
acquisition != loss
take a look at an introductory accounting text.
Some other things NetBSD does't support as opposed to Linux:
SGI Indy (www.linux.sgi.com)
Most of the sun4u machines
(eg, SUN Ultra5, Ultra10, E250, E450, E3000, etc, etc)
Linux runs on all of them.