holding for ransom, locking it up so it's not running, the thing that'll produce the coins to pay the ransom
Seems like the smarter thing to do would have been to subvert a coin every so often to a different location, since you already have control of the machine. That way it'll go undetected for a while and they'll probably make more than the ransom payout would have been.
Maybe, as some have suggested above, this is about more than ransom money.
It could be that they saw mining rigs as particularly vulnerable... or it could be they have a deeper motive.
Mmmm well depends on the way my farts are harvested. Is it by forcing a tube in my a-hole? Or standing by and waiting for my farts to come out?
The way Google, Amazon et. al. are doing it is more like the tube in the ass method. They force a device on (or into) you and take whatever they want (or well, they take everything and filter out. Or not.)
A tube up the arse may be more efficient, but a more palatable method would be to have a pocket sewn into the underwear with special fart-capturing crystals to put into the pocket to catch the farts- then you can just ship the fart-crystal packets off to google, or whoever wants them. I know they sell similar with charcoal to catch odours (but I don't know if the farts can then be efficiently extracted from the charcoal at a later date).
More like farts. We generate a lot of them and they aren't particularly valuable to us, but we still don't want companies to come and harvest them from us.
I personally don't care if someone harvests my farts. I'd like to think that my farts were making someone's life better somehow.
At least to Google, Facebook, and Amazon, data is like crack, not happy-happy-sunshine. They are addicted and act just like any other addict.
My first thought was Data is more like Cigarettes. The big data companies deny that them handling our data is harmful to us, what's the loss of a little privacy, whilst meanwhile we're seeing all sorts of problems caused by people's whose data is being harvested.
It's mainstream, and just like once upon a time most men smoked; right now most men are giving away their data- it's culturally acceptable to just let Big Data take your data and damage your lungs of privacy.
How much will it cost to launch the needed starter cell culture into space, presumably have someone up their manning it (even if mostly automated), return it from space...etc.
Even Walter White probably didn't get enough meth money to buy a new heart. In the US this would mean new hearts would only be for the wealthy. Can the process be done in bulk? Or can we get the cost of launch down enough?
The "wall" is part of a border control system. Physical barriers must be surveilled and have human pickets available. The successful "walls" (built by Israel, Saudi, and Hungary) are monitored and patrolled. They don't just sit there awaiting circumvention or breaching.
Unfortunately the American public can't understand words longer than four letters so "wall" has taken over the discussion.
If "walls" don't work I must have hallucinated the Berlin Wall when I was stationed in West Germany. Those who want open borders should advocate suitable legislation.
One of the reasons I'm not a fan of bike hire places is that you have to end your trip at a bike station, which is usually not close enough to my destination (not enough bike stations in my city). This could allow me to hop off, and let the bike return itself to the nearest depot - that would be really convenient.
Not to mention it would be rather amusing to watch bikes riding themselves back along the sidewalk.
By having to spend billions through the years replacing sections that get cut through with household tools?
Please, describe these "household" tools that can cut though steel. I'm not saying the steel can't be breeched, I'm saying it can't be done with what the average person keeps in their house.
Build a wall and it either gets breached in the first few weeks and then is worthless, or you throw millions and billions at it every few years to keep it repaired and up to date. This is a never-ending money pit.
Really? It will take BILLIONS of dollar/year to maintain a wall that cost a few BILLION to build? You're just inventing outlandish numbers.
We have several hundred (700, IIRC) miles of existing fencing, what is the annual cost to repair and maintain it? Seems to me the cost is known, and easily calculated by anyone interested in a honest debate of the cost, as opposed to a Carl Sagan-like debate about "billions and billions".
Well there is 2 billion already on the budget that was originally signed just to repair the fence. Do you really think a wall would cost less to repair? Especially one that's been cut and you have to remove, dispose of and replace sections of? The upkeep could end up costing more than the construction.
As for cutting, there is this device called a saw; and people have cut through the proposed designs using one. Fox probably failed to mention that though... but if you google it you will see it was on all the main news outlets.
Seriously? Give the guy his $100 Billion and be done with him
No! That's a ridiculous waste of money. Do you realize how many roads, bridges, and other infrastructure projects could be completed with that?
Oh wait.. This ISN'T about the money is it? Democrats dropped $1 Trillion over 10 years on the ACA with a continued ever increasing entitlement without batting an eyelash
I have no idea how much the democrats spent on it, but it is irrelevant. I don't generally view the Democrats as money savvy anyway. Once upon a time that used to be the realm of the Republican party. Although, they've always wasted a lot on military spending too over the years.
It is a fallacy to throw good money after bad, to say, we've wasted this much money, might as well waste more on Trump's vanity project. How does wasting more money help the money that was wasted in the past?
Building the wall doesn't do any of those things. It's just a vanity project. He could spend $2million to build a "Statue of Trump" to stand alongside the Statue of Liberty? Less money of the tax payer wasted and he gets a vanity project in.
The reality is this expenditure is a way to save money over the decades to come,
By having to spend billions through the years replacing sections that get cut through with household tools? Build a wall and it either gets breached in the first few weeks and then is worthless, or you throw millions and billions at it every few years to keep it repaired and up to date. This is a never-ending money pit.
Would be much more efficient to just set up surveillance equipment- equipment to monitor where people are by heat, movement, etc. Make an electronic wall- it will cost less, be useful to border patrol, and if/when it needs replacing, it will be cheaper and as it gets replaced it gets upgraded. If this were about security, we'd listen to all the experts who say an electronic wall would be cheaper and more efficient instead of going after Trump's vanity project.
Plus the lives saved alone (Both the illegals who die trying to cross the border and those who die from the drugs disease that illegally cross the border) would be worth every penny.
More would die because they would take a sea route instead (see Europe). Drugs wouldn't be impacted because over 90% already comes through legal ports/border crossings. If drugs were the reason, you'd just better man existing ports of entry. Besides, you don't think drones can fly over a 30ft wall? Or that people can't catapult them over the wall? Don't be naive, we've had the ability to throw things over a 30ft wall for 2000+ years.
Yea, but the cost of opening the government is $5.7 Billion....
5.7billion now (on top of nearly 2billion already granted in the budget to repair/replace existing border fencing) - and that's just the down payment to get started. Most conservative estimates start at about $20billion to complete the project- some go over $100billion (although that's probably unrealistic). Trump's own widely derided estimate was $7bn to $12bn total.
Either way- that's not an insignificant chunk of money when you consider our infrastructure is in poor shape compared to much of the rest of the world, our health care is last place out of the industrialised world, we're falling behind in science, etc.
The preferred designs can be cut through with common household tools or easily traversed with a ladder. Even republicans representatives who live along the border say that it wouldn't be effective. The people who cross the border illegally are fewer than the people who arrive legally and overstay their visa.... and you know what country most people who arrive and legally overstay their visa come from? CANADA- it's not even Mexico.
It's absurd to waste $5.7 billion on a downpayment on a much more expensive wall. It's just a really bad idea. It's a vanity project with no merit... let's not waste money on a stupid vanity project please.
but the Chinese aren't going to cooperate with the US authorities.
That's true today. Who knows what the political climate will be in 5 years, 10 years... etc. You can't really trust anyone to keep your data private. You have to assume everything you do online is being stored as data by someone, somewhere, and may never be deleted.
A large number of the largest ________ are owned by China.
It's not just VPN it's anything. Partially because they are a large country with a large population (and large companies tend to form in large markets). Partially because state sponsorship and the government TRYING to make large companies; and partially because the government restricts competition from foreign companies in some situations that an alternative will always be found domestically.
It's no surprise large VPN-companies are found in China. Large everything-companies are found in China.
Considering the fastest we could propel something 100 years ago was about 1000kph. We've already increased our max speed of launching something by 560* in a century.
Going up another 190* is not that much when you consider all of future human history, and, in space there is no friction so it makes increasing that speed easier than it is here on earth. We haven't even TRIED to hit a max speed in space yet.
190x is nothing when we really sit down to try and move fast (and have all of future history to do it.
I'm confused. I've never been a Facebook member, but from what I understood it was a free platform funded by advertising. Why does Facebook have anyone's credit card on file in the first place?
I'd be much more interested to know who rigged the polls in favor of Hillary.
Honestly, I think it is a case of most Trump supporters were embarrassed to vote for Trump. I live in one of the states that Trump won with one of his biggest margins. I saw Hillary stickers and signs everywhere... besides one Truck that was also, incidentally, flying a rebel flag, so obviously not someone who cares what people think about him, I didn't see a single Trump bumper sticker. Trump voters were obviously quiet and hiding themselves. Not surprising since to out yourself as a Trump supporter outed yourself as a racist/misanthrope in many eyes.
I don't personally know a single person who admits to voting for Trump (besides my own mother, who hates Trump now)- yet there must be some out there in this state- he won it pretty easily.
It was a bit amusing how many Republican congressmen who voted to impeach got ratted out for their own infidelities.
Amusing but not isolated. Think of how often those people who are most vocally against homosexuality are repressed homosexuals themselves. There have been many anti-Semite Jewish people; Hitler himself had Jewish links. You have vocal racists like Strom Thurmond who ended up having his own mixed race daughter.
It's not surprising that some people who had infidelities of their own spoke out strongly against others that did that. They're trying to vocally distance themselves from their own internal guilt.
The phrase "The Lady Doth Protest Too Much" comes to mind.
The Dems probably won't try to impeach Trump. It takes too long and can backfire, like it did with Clinton. Better to just keep digging up dirt, subpoena his tax returns, that kind of thing, and wait for the 2020 race.
The Democrats (as a whole) probably don't want Trump to be impeached. It would be hard to re-elect Trump with all the allegations against him, and all the mounting evidence that the allegations are probably true.
If Trump gets impeached; Pence has a clean slate. 2020 election is a clean fight based on Pence vs Whoever. If Trump stays on then it is Trump and all his Baggage Vs Whoever.
It's probably politically beneficial to the Democrats to leave Trump in place. Just like Trump was shown to be the Republican candidate with the least chance of winning the election in 2016 (any of the other candidates and it probably would have been a landslide against Hillary); Trump is theoretically the easiest candidate the Democrats could face in 2020. From their standpoint: Why impeach Trump and put a President in place who might get re-elected rather than leave him in place and go with an almost certain victory in 2020?
What's the lifespan of a single-celled organism? Well, no idea if you try to troll.
Basically all single cell organisms are imortal. They die when they get eaten, or by starvation (an then they mostly don't die but hibernate), or by fatal gene copy errors.
Not a troll, it was a rhetorical question. There are more single celled (non aging) organisms on earth than there are multi-cellular species that age. Aging isn't necessarily a fact of life.
I don't believe the rock was a spaceship with lifeforms on it; I do however think that aging isn't necessarily the norm in the Universe.
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...about not understanding bitcoin and how it must be literally tulips...
Actually, it would be amusing if someone created a Tulipcoin.
holding for ransom, locking it up so it's not running, the thing that'll produce the coins to pay the ransom
Seems like the smarter thing to do would have been to subvert a coin every so often to a different location, since you already have control of the machine. That way it'll go undetected for a while and they'll probably make more than the ransom payout would have been.
Maybe, as some have suggested above, this is about more than ransom money.
It could be that they saw mining rigs as particularly vulnerable... or it could be they have a deeper motive.
I bet the case had no merit.
That's defamation of the complainant!
That was the Chinese lunar lander taking a photo of the Dark Side of the Earth.
Mmmm well depends on the way my farts are harvested. Is it by forcing a tube in my a-hole? Or standing by and waiting for my farts to come out?
The way Google, Amazon et. al. are doing it is more like the tube in the ass method. They force a device on (or into) you and take whatever they want (or well, they take everything and filter out. Or not.)
A tube up the arse may be more efficient, but a more palatable method would be to have a pocket sewn into the underwear with special fart-capturing crystals to put into the pocket to catch the farts- then you can just ship the fart-crystal packets off to google, or whoever wants them. I know they sell similar with charcoal to catch odours (but I don't know if the farts can then be efficiently extracted from the charcoal at a later date).
More like farts. We generate a lot of them and they aren't particularly valuable to us, but we still don't want companies to come and harvest them from us.
I personally don't care if someone harvests my farts. I'd like to think that my farts were making someone's life better somehow.
At least to Google, Facebook, and Amazon, data is like crack, not happy-happy-sunshine. They are addicted and act just like any other addict.
My first thought was Data is more like Cigarettes. The big data companies deny that them handling our data is harmful to us, what's the loss of a little privacy, whilst meanwhile we're seeing all sorts of problems caused by people's whose data is being harvested.
It's mainstream, and just like once upon a time most men smoked; right now most men are giving away their data- it's culturally acceptable to just let Big Data take your data and damage your lungs of privacy.
How much will it cost to launch the needed starter cell culture into space, presumably have someone up their manning it (even if mostly automated), return it from space...etc.
Even Walter White probably didn't get enough meth money to buy a new heart. In the US this would mean new hearts would only be for the wealthy. Can the process be done in bulk? Or can we get the cost of launch down enough?
The "wall" is part of a border control system. Physical barriers must be surveilled and have human pickets available. The successful "walls" (built by Israel, Saudi, and Hungary) are monitored and patrolled. They don't just sit there awaiting circumvention or breaching.
Unfortunately the American public can't understand words longer than four letters so "wall" has taken over the discussion.
If "walls" don't work I must have hallucinated the Berlin Wall when I was stationed in West Germany. Those who want open borders should advocate suitable legislation.
https://www.nbcnews.com/news/w...
Berlin's wall didn't work. My grandmother for one escaped across it.
Indeed:
Facebook Appears To Be Quietly Building Laser Satellites For *ahem* Global Domination
One of the reasons I'm not a fan of bike hire places is that you have to end your trip at a bike station, which is usually not close enough to my destination (not enough bike stations in my city). This could allow me to hop off, and let the bike return itself to the nearest depot - that would be really convenient.
Not to mention it would be rather amusing to watch bikes riding themselves back along the sidewalk.
By having to spend billions through the years replacing sections that get cut through with household tools?
Please, describe these "household" tools that can cut though steel. I'm not saying the steel can't be breeched, I'm saying it can't be done with what the average person keeps in their house.
Build a wall and it either gets breached in the first few weeks and then is worthless, or you throw millions and billions at it every few years to keep it repaired and up to date. This is a never-ending money pit.
Really? It will take BILLIONS of dollar/year to maintain a wall that cost a few BILLION to build? You're just inventing outlandish numbers.
We have several hundred (700, IIRC) miles of existing fencing, what is the annual cost to repair and maintain it? Seems to me the cost is known, and easily calculated by anyone interested in a honest debate of the cost, as opposed to a Carl Sagan-like debate about "billions and billions".
Well there is 2 billion already on the budget that was originally signed just to repair the fence. Do you really think a wall would cost less to repair? Especially one that's been cut and you have to remove, dispose of and replace sections of? The upkeep could end up costing more than the construction.
As for cutting, there is this device called a saw; and people have cut through the proposed designs using one. Fox probably failed to mention that though... but if you google it you will see it was on all the main news outlets.
Seriously? Give the guy his $100 Billion and be done with him
No! That's a ridiculous waste of money. Do you realize how many roads, bridges, and other infrastructure projects could be completed with that?
Oh wait.. This ISN'T about the money is it? Democrats dropped $1 Trillion over 10 years on the ACA with a continued ever increasing entitlement without batting an eyelash
I have no idea how much the democrats spent on it, but it is irrelevant. I don't generally view the Democrats as money savvy anyway. Once upon a time that used to be the realm of the Republican party. Although, they've always wasted a lot on military spending too over the years.
It is a fallacy to throw good money after bad, to say, we've wasted this much money, might as well waste more on Trump's vanity project. How does wasting more money help the money that was wasted in the past?
Building the wall doesn't do any of those things. It's just a vanity project. He could spend $2million to build a "Statue of Trump" to stand alongside the Statue of Liberty? Less money of the tax payer wasted and he gets a vanity project in.
The reality is this expenditure is a way to save money over the decades to come,
By having to spend billions through the years replacing sections that get cut through with household tools? Build a wall and it either gets breached in the first few weeks and then is worthless, or you throw millions and billions at it every few years to keep it repaired and up to date. This is a never-ending money pit.
Would be much more efficient to just set up surveillance equipment- equipment to monitor where people are by heat, movement, etc. Make an electronic wall- it will cost less, be useful to border patrol, and if/when it needs replacing, it will be cheaper and as it gets replaced it gets upgraded. If this were about security, we'd listen to all the experts who say an electronic wall would be cheaper and more efficient instead of going after Trump's vanity project.
Plus the lives saved alone (Both the illegals who die trying to cross the border and those who die from the drugs disease that illegally cross the border) would be worth every penny.
More would die because they would take a sea route instead (see Europe). Drugs wouldn't be impacted because over 90% already comes through legal ports/border crossings. If drugs were the reason, you'd just better man existing ports of entry. Besides, you don't think drones can fly over a 30ft wall? Or that people can't catapult them over the wall? Don't be naive, we've had the ability to throw things over a 30ft wall for 2000+ years.
Yea, but the cost of opening the government is $5.7 Billion....
5.7billion now (on top of nearly 2billion already granted in the budget to repair/replace existing border fencing) - and that's just the down payment to get started. Most conservative estimates start at about $20billion to complete the project- some go over $100billion (although that's probably unrealistic). Trump's own widely derided estimate was $7bn to $12bn total.
Either way- that's not an insignificant chunk of money when you consider our infrastructure is in poor shape compared to much of the rest of the world, our health care is last place out of the industrialised world, we're falling behind in science, etc.
The preferred designs can be cut through with common household tools or easily traversed with a ladder. Even republicans representatives who live along the border say that it wouldn't be effective. The people who cross the border illegally are fewer than the people who arrive legally and overstay their visa. ... and you know what country most people who arrive and legally overstay their visa come from? CANADA- it's not even Mexico.
It's absurd to waste $5.7 billion on a downpayment on a much more expensive wall. It's just a really bad idea. It's a vanity project with no merit... let's not waste money on a stupid vanity project please.
but the Chinese aren't going to cooperate with the US authorities.
That's true today. Who knows what the political climate will be in 5 years, 10 years... etc. You can't really trust anyone to keep your data private. You have to assume everything you do online is being stored as data by someone, somewhere, and may never be deleted.
A large number of the largest ________ are owned by China.
It's not just VPN it's anything. Partially because they are a large country with a large population (and large companies tend to form in large markets). Partially because state sponsorship and the government TRYING to make large companies; and partially because the government restricts competition from foreign companies in some situations that an alternative will always be found domestically.
It's no surprise large VPN-companies are found in China. Large everything-companies are found in China.
Considering the fastest we could propel something 100 years ago was about 1000kph. We've already increased our max speed of launching something by 560* in a century.
Going up another 190* is not that much when you consider all of future human history, and, in space there is no friction so it makes increasing that speed easier than it is here on earth. We haven't even TRIED to hit a max speed in space yet.
190x is nothing when we really sit down to try and move fast (and have all of future history to do it.
I'm confused. I've never been a Facebook member, but from what I understood it was a free platform funded by advertising. Why does Facebook have anyone's credit card on file in the first place?
You really are stupid enough believe the Democrats don't do exactly the same thing?
If they do, I hope that they too go to jail.
I'd be much more interested to know who rigged the polls in favor of Hillary.
Honestly, I think it is a case of most Trump supporters were embarrassed to vote for Trump. I live in one of the states that Trump won with one of his biggest margins. I saw Hillary stickers and signs everywhere... besides one Truck that was also, incidentally, flying a rebel flag, so obviously not someone who cares what people think about him, I didn't see a single Trump bumper sticker. Trump voters were obviously quiet and hiding themselves. Not surprising since to out yourself as a Trump supporter outed yourself as a racist/misanthrope in many eyes.
I don't personally know a single person who admits to voting for Trump (besides my own mother, who hates Trump now)- yet there must be some out there in this state- he won it pretty easily.
I couldn't care less if it's true or not. Online polls are completely useless.
You have three candidates running for Office.
Mr. A has 50% of the vote in the polls.
Miss B has 45% of the vote in the polls.
Dr. C has 5% of the vote in the polls.
You like Dr. C the best- you're indifferent about Miss B... but you really hate Mr. A and think he would be a disaster.
Who do you vote for?
Most people in that situation in the US would vote for Miss B, because clearly Dr. C has no chance of preventing Mr. A winning the election.
In this case, the polls turned out to be handy for Miss B. because a lot of Dr. C voters would have switched their vote to Miss B.
It was a bit amusing how many Republican congressmen who voted to impeach got ratted out for their own infidelities.
Amusing but not isolated. Think of how often those people who are most vocally against homosexuality are repressed homosexuals themselves. There have been many anti-Semite Jewish people; Hitler himself had Jewish links. You have vocal racists like Strom Thurmond who ended up having his own mixed race daughter.
It's not surprising that some people who had infidelities of their own spoke out strongly against others that did that. They're trying to vocally distance themselves from their own internal guilt.
The phrase "The Lady Doth Protest Too Much" comes to mind.
The Dems probably won't try to impeach Trump. It takes too long and can backfire, like it did with Clinton. Better to just keep digging up dirt, subpoena his tax returns, that kind of thing, and wait for the 2020 race.
The Democrats (as a whole) probably don't want Trump to be impeached. It would be hard to re-elect Trump with all the allegations against him, and all the mounting evidence that the allegations are probably true.
If Trump gets impeached; Pence has a clean slate. 2020 election is a clean fight based on Pence vs Whoever. If Trump stays on then it is Trump and all his Baggage Vs Whoever.
It's probably politically beneficial to the Democrats to leave Trump in place. Just like Trump was shown to be the Republican candidate with the least chance of winning the election in 2016 (any of the other candidates and it probably would have been a landslide against Hillary); Trump is theoretically the easiest candidate the Democrats could face in 2020. From their standpoint: Why impeach Trump and put a President in place who might get re-elected rather than leave him in place and go with an almost certain victory in 2020?
What's the lifespan of a single-celled organism?
Well, no idea if you try to troll.
Basically all single cell organisms are imortal. They die when they get eaten, or by starvation (an then they mostly don't die but hibernate), or by fatal gene copy errors.
Not a troll, it was a rhetorical question. There are more single celled (non aging) organisms on earth than there are multi-cellular species that age. Aging isn't necessarily a fact of life.
I don't believe the rock was a spaceship with lifeforms on it; I do however think that aging isn't necessarily the norm in the Universe.
It WAS an alien probe.
And it will report back that no intelligent life was found on Earth.
Could it not detect the Whales?