Nobody is pointing out something that I think is way more significant: all of the killer apps of the Internet era: Amazon (.com, Inc), Google (Inc.), and Maps.yahoo.com. They run on Linux or FreeBSD, but they're not apps in the way that people have traditionally thought of applications, so they just don't get considered. Amazon is built with Perl on top of Linux. It's basically a bunch of open source hackers, but they're working for a company that's as fiercely proprietary as any proprietary software company.
What's wrong with this picture? Well, one thing is that one of the fundamental premises of open source is that the licenses are all conditioned on the act of software distribution, and once you're no longer distributing an application, none of the licenses mean squat.
I would go further than the fact that the licenses don't work. I would also point out that these applications are fundamentally different in that their interfaces are composed much more of data than they are of just software. My basic premise is, "Let's stop thinking about licenses for a little bit. Let's stop thinking that that's the core of what matters about open source. And that's not to say that they're completely unimportant, it's just that they can blind (us) to other things that are perhaps more important.
I sumbit that hardware/software/applications form something akin to a protocol stack.
Regardless of whether the spec for any chip is made public, Joe User is not going to bake his own.
Up the abstraction hierarchy, we hava a GPL. The whole gamut of software products are available and free and effective, for all that some, in the words of Trent Reznor, have "...found you can find happiness in slavery".
What is wrong with saying that the end product, say a business, actually happens outside the scope of the GPL?
That's a Good Thing, too. If more people start businesses that are GPL-based where software is concerned, that would be the basis for better economic growth. Said another way, we lower the infrastructer costs of doing business.
Thus, the argument that GPL is anti-business is, overall, crap, unless your name is Ballmer or Gates. Which sort of challenges your argument, Mr. O'Reilly. But my shelf is still crowded with books having various animals and insects on the cover, so that's OK.
Vaporware, vapor dividend.
The pragmatic truth is that is was likely a call from Warren Buffet saying "you gotta prime the stock market, or we're all beat" that drives this news.
Dig Open Source though I do, one cannot claim it creates wealth like proprietary stuff, apologies to RMS.
Will this post incur the wrath of the/. orthodoxy?
Can't say I've used it, but a good path might be using Python to get the thing going, and then boost::python on the parts that would benefit from compilation.
Also, the killer feature that hasn't emerged is a single, high speed, world-wide data standard. The new Kyocera 7135 in yonder cradle is a sexy piece of hardware, but drops to a mere Palm Pilot in Europe.
AFAIK, WiFi is free of any engineered incompatibilities.
I would have accepted a higher price to get a GSM/CDMA agnostic phone, even at the expense of a bigger form factor. Telco daddys: "Can you hear me now?"
Closet Johnny Cash fans?
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SCO SCO SCO!
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Because, if you read the article, it was actually a detailed review by someone who is familiar enough with the subject to peer into the nooks 'n' crannies, yet critical enough not to tout it.
In a day when 4 out of 5 dentists surveyed said reviews are merely ads in disguise, this is a breath of fresh air.
Still trying to figure out why you'd use BeOS. Is there any security value in running, say, a web server, on a niche OS, so that the would-be cracker makes an ignorant blunder and exposes himself?
Regardless of how technically sound tablet PCs are, the market for them isn't going to spring into existence overnight.
The idea doesn't improve significantly enough on my good Rhino to have me making a purchase.
Now, when I see RMS running Emacs on one of these things, then, maybe THEN, I'll plunk down some frogskins...
Missed the AC/DC reference:
"Ain't no famous story.
Ain't no skin 'n' bone.
But she give it all she got,
Weighin' in at 19 stone..."
--Whole Lotta Rosie: Dirty Deeds, Done Dirt Cheap
Walt Whitman's comment about the best gubmint money can buy was never truer.
But what of the EU? The sad truth is that, as the Open Source community views MS, so the rest of the world views the US.
Does this play into a duopoly, MS in North America, OSS everywhere else? I see the US as losing in the long run, in that end-game.
Hey man, if Bobbie Schmidt runs Macs at home, they can't be that bad. Saw a command prompt on one in CompUSA. Might actually go that route for the next unit, especially if they ditch Motorolla.
Interested in learning more about these generics
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You could troll and say that Java has finally caught up with where C++ was better than a decade ago.
More constructively, maybe the implementation will improve on things from all that time and experience.
Java is the best defense against the.Net onslaught. Good luck, Java.
Installs fine.
Visibly faster than Id Est 6.0.379.0--Redmond: heed!
Too bad my project requires some IE-only extensions, via JScript, that let the browser grab a range in a text control. Last time I looked at coding with Moz, it wouldn't support that.
Now, be honest, sir:
How many times has some little "I've got a secret" registry key given you a swift kick in the naughty bits? Licensing hassle?
For a fact, we use computers to achieve some level of abstraction.
And I'll even agree with you to the point that OSS frequently has you flying below the treetops.
However, I would argue that, with late model distributions, you really get the abstraction, plus the ability to zoom in and see just WTF is going on.
True enough, most Windows users can't even find the command prompt. Negates the value of the prompt as much as, say, the fact that few 'lay' people ever go beyond checkbook math renders calculus valueless.
Like the classic comment about the general offering target practice to Boy Scouts.
Accusec by a female reporter of training the boys to be killers, he observed
she was equipped to be a prostitute...
If we simply boycott all of these products, they won't afford sharks (lawyers), and the whole non-argument will eat itself.
Sure, I own some DVDs, but would gladly give them all all away if it would get these idiots to shut their pie hole.
However, the lower limit of this service pack/previous version approach will be Windows95.
Ballmer says that the regression will stop short of reverting to 16 bit code, or his name is Adam Osbourne
to see the legal system used as a denial of service attack on the entire economy.
I hope that there is some actual basis for the claim, because otherwise SCO is just an MS meat-puppet.
Fighting to keep an open mind on the subject.
The comment is not directed at Rand, but the model of humainty in her thought.
Concur that she represents an extreme view that is good for stimulating dialogue.
However, in preaching the individual at the expense of society, she avoideth the left ditch and parketh herself in the right.
Somewhere in between the extremes is a model whereby you can view individual/society problem in a way that makes clear sense. <><
Good to see Eco mentioned.
While I liked FP, I think that the already over-mentioned Illuminatus Trilogy edges it out, by refusing to take itself seriously.
The Roarke/Dominique scene, and her treatment of sexuality there and in AS, is a perfectly logical conclusion reached by a piss-poor model of humanity. Serves as an indicator of how inapplicable her thought is to life as we know it.
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Blow off the Gault monologue at the end.
It works as a critique of socialism, but Gault as a model for what real humanity is or should be completely fails it. Outside the tautological covers of the book, that is.
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I sumbit that hardware/software/applications form something akin to a protocol stack.
Regardless of whether the spec for any chip is made public, Joe User is not going to bake his own.
Up the abstraction hierarchy, we hava a GPL. The whole gamut of software products are available and free and effective, for all that some, in the words of Trent Reznor, have "...found you can find happiness in slavery".
What is wrong with saying that the end product, say a business, actually happens outside the scope of the GPL?
That's a Good Thing, too. If more people start businesses that are GPL-based where software is concerned, that would be the basis for better economic growth. Said another way, we lower the infrastructer costs of doing business.
Thus, the argument that GPL is anti-business is, overall, crap, unless your name is Ballmer or Gates. Which sort of challenges your argument, Mr. O'Reilly. But my shelf is still crowded with books having various animals and insects on the cover, so that's OK.
Vaporware, vapor dividend. /. orthodoxy?
The pragmatic truth is that is was likely a call from Warren Buffet saying "you gotta prime the stock market, or we're all beat" that drives this news.
Dig Open Source though I do, one cannot claim it creates wealth like proprietary stuff, apologies to RMS.
Will this post incur the wrath of the
Can't say I've used it, but a good path might be using Python to get the thing going, and then boost::python on the parts that would benefit from compilation.
Also, the killer feature that hasn't emerged is a single, high speed, world-wide data standard. The new Kyocera 7135 in yonder cradle is a sexy piece of hardware, but drops to a mere Palm Pilot in Europe.
AFAIK, WiFi is free of any engineered incompatibilities.
I would have accepted a higher price to get a GSM/CDMA agnostic phone, even at the expense of a bigger form factor. Telco daddys: "Can you hear me now?"
Maybe they're taking A Boy Named Sue too literally...
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Is it the fact that they fell short of agreeing with you totally that upsets you so?
Because, if you read the article, it was actually a detailed review by someone who is familiar enough with the subject to peer into the nooks 'n' crannies, yet critical enough not to tout it.
In a day when 4 out of 5 dentists surveyed said reviews are merely ads in disguise, this is a breath of fresh air.
Still trying to figure out why you'd use BeOS. Is there any security value in running, say, a web server, on a niche OS, so that the would-be cracker makes an ignorant blunder and exposes himself?
Regardless of how technically sound tablet PCs are, the market for them isn't going to spring into existence overnight.
The idea doesn't improve significantly enough on my good Rhino to have me making a purchase.
Now, when I see RMS running Emacs on one of these things, then, maybe THEN, I'll plunk down some frogskins...
I'll scratch it, but they have to scratch mine, first. And no flinging 'stuff'!
Missed the AC/DC reference:
"Ain't no famous story.
Ain't no skin 'n' bone.
But she give it all she got,
Weighin' in at 19 stone..."
--Whole Lotta Rosie: Dirty Deeds, Done Dirt Cheap
Don't scales in the UK still use stoneweight?
For god's sake man, this is a geek girl.
Anything under 19 stone is Venus.
Walt Whitman's comment about the best gubmint money can buy was never truer.
But what of the EU? The sad truth is that, as the Open Source community views MS, so the rest of the world views the US.
Does this play into a duopoly, MS in North America, OSS everywhere else? I see the US as losing in the long run, in that end-game.
Hey man, if Bobbie Schmidt runs Macs at home, they can't be that bad. Saw a command prompt on one in CompUSA. Might actually go that route for the next unit, especially if they ditch Motorolla.
You could troll and say that Java has finally caught up with where C++ was better than a decade ago. .Net onslaught. Good luck, Java.
More constructively, maybe the implementation will improve on things from all that time and experience.
Java is the best defense against the
Installs fine.
Visibly faster than Id Est 6.0.379.0--Redmond: heed!
Too bad my project requires some IE-only extensions, via JScript, that let the browser grab a range in a text control. Last time I looked at coding with Moz, it wouldn't support that.
How many times has some little "I've got a secret" registry key given you a swift kick in the naughty bits? Licensing hassle?
For a fact, we use computers to achieve some level of abstraction.
And I'll even agree with you to the point that OSS frequently has you flying below the treetops.
However, I would argue that, with late model distributions, you really get the abstraction, plus the ability to zoom in and see just WTF is going on.
True enough, most Windows users can't even find the command prompt.
Negates the value of the prompt as much as, say,
the fact that few 'lay' people ever go beyond checkbook math renders calculus valueless.
Like the classic comment about the general offering target practice to Boy Scouts.
Accusec by a female reporter of training the boys to be killers, he observed
she was equipped to be a prostitute...
If we simply boycott all of these products, they won't afford sharks (lawyers), and the whole non-argument will eat itself.
Sure, I own some DVDs, but would gladly give them all all away if it would get these idiots to shut their pie hole.
However, the lower limit of this service pack/previous version approach will be Windows95.
Ballmer says that the regression will stop short of reverting to 16 bit code, or his name is Adam Osbourne
to see the legal system used as a denial of service attack on the entire economy.
I hope that there is some actual basis for the claim, because otherwise SCO is just an MS meat-puppet.
Fighting to keep an open mind on the subject.
The comment is not directed at Rand, but the model of humainty in her thought.
Concur that she represents an extreme view that is good for stimulating dialogue.
However, in preaching the individual at the expense of society, she avoideth the left ditch and parketh herself in the right.
Somewhere in between the extremes is a model whereby you can view individual/society problem in a way that makes clear sense. <><
Your math is ronngg.
A troll with a lawyer=1 troll + 1 shark.
Good to see Eco mentioned.
While I liked FP, I think that the already over-mentioned Illuminatus Trilogy edges it out, by refusing to take itself seriously.
I've seen that in the bookstore, but it's so damn true as to be depressing. I think that The Onion does it better.
The Roarke/Dominique scene, and her treatment of sexuality there and in AS, is a perfectly logical conclusion reached by a piss-poor model of humanity. Serves as an indicator of how inapplicable her thought is to life as we know it.
Blow off the Gault monologue at the end.
It works as a critique of socialism, but Gault as a model for what real humanity is or should be completely fails it. Outside the tautological covers of the book, that is.