I realize they are talking about the majority of phone users, but if you are using a rooted phone and most of the tech oriented Roms, you can have your cake and eat it too. Lock down each app and security item granularly. Fuck what the app author wants. Fuck what the phone manufacturer wants. Its my phone and I'll be in control of my own security. Nothing pisses me off more than the scam that Google and device makers try to pull over on the public by not giving the owner of the device root. Heck most of the permissions in stock android are there to force you into the cloud, right down to the inability to back up your apps and data locally if you are using a stock device. Folder segregation in newer versions of android keep your own data locked out of your view so that you have to use cloud services to gain access to it.
As opposed to the whole device? Apple or Android if you don't have root and have ultimate control then the device itself is the malware. Malware is anything that works to the detriment of the owners wishes.
These types of absurd lawsuits need to be shot down immediately. Companies should not be liable for results of calculations, no matter what that calculation is or how offensive it may be.
The facebook fiasco is bad, but there simply needs to be the same rules for corporations that exist for government. The data that corporations collect now make laws against search and seizure and privacy regulations laughable. They can't get your data directly but simply allow Google and Facebook to know everything about you then get it that way. I went to a hospital this past weekend that wanted to scan my drivers license just to go see my dad in the hospital. I refused and said I prefer to move about anonymously and refused to give it up. Where are we going to be when EVERY place demands identification? The government can't directly track your movements gestapo "paper's please" style, but they'll effectively have the exact same trail. It's not acceptable for your identification to be needed to participate in society.
Its not even that. There is literally nothing that IoT devices do in the cloud that can't be done completely in the owners network. Anyone that allows devices on their network that basically have you authenticating to a companies servers outside your home or business to do something inside your home or business deserve everything they get.
Malware. Any system that treats the owner of the device as the problem is malware. I'm all for secure boot as long as the owner of the device decides what to tag as secure and has complete control over the encryption and lockdowns.
If I had one your phones apple, how would protect ** MY ** phone from you? Why should I even trust you to make my security decisions and app choices for me? If you believe in the ideal that you speak of, then you would provide tools so that the OWNER of the device is the one in complete control. Why do your users have to use an encryption system that you are in control of and could potentially be forced to hand over the security keys to in the first place? Why can they not use any app THEY choose and any encryption system THEY choose?
Linux on windows = stupid. Windows on linux = ok, but still stupid. Windows is a bloated, fat OS where FAR greater than 75% of its code is there to LIMIT what you can do in some way. It is always working against you and policing what you can do on your own system. Why would you allow it to be the base OS?
And anonymise the browser by just having it say yes I have it to every plugin, font, etc. and then just report LOCAL errors to the owner that content may not work because a plugin was requested that isn't actually installed. Also remove any and all functionality that allows outbound data to be sent without a user interaction... i.e. disable mouse location sensing, disable live fields that send data in real time such as google instant. Disable search in the address bar and any number of other things that reduce security and privacy of the user.
All have the same problem of being a walled garden that makes things difficult to push you into giving up more privacy and control. I'm using a Pixel now and have bypassed the Pixel 2 to save up for a Purism phone when they become available in early 2019.
Google especially is taking every possible step to aggravate people into giving them more control. I will be root on my own devices. Period. I will back up my data locally, not to the cloud. I will block ads and other traffic that I didn't explicitly ask for because I am charged for my data usage and because it is just more secure that way. I will have OS and apps under my control, not the manufacturer or carrier. I will use encryption that I control and have keys to, not encryption built in to the OS that can be given away to the authorities without my say.
Will I be nickel and dimed by every movie studio and TV channel separately. I'm a cord cutter. I will use ONE service and one service only and it will be the one that has the most content and the one that most liberally allows me to use devices, apps and operating systems that don't track my every movement. That or I'll either do without or pirate. It's their choice. DRM has gone beyond a way to police content, it is now forced as a way to force you to use entire content delivery systems that they control.
I'm both happy and sad about this. I hate seeing corporations fly above the law, but its about damn time that some body (company) stood up to the pay to play scheme that Taxi and other systems support. I will choose who I want to ride with, thank you very much. I am willing to accept the consequences if I choose poorly. Government needs to stay the hell out of it.
If this becomes the norm to where you can't buy one without it, I'll start selling finger anonymizers... otherwise known as fingertip condoms. Because I don't want my fucking finger print in your database or in any device that I'm not root and have full control of.
I can't believe anyone wants ANY cloud connected device in their homes. Why would I ask an outside company for permission to change a setting on a thermostat, or light, or alarm system or camera? That is exactly like buying a home and the real estate agent keeping the key and letting you inside only when they are satisifed... while also saying how you can arrange your furniture.. and periodically repainting without even asking you what you wanted. Also usually with the added "benefit" of locking rooms of the house off in the house you paid for so they can sell that room access back to you as an added feature.
The difference is that I will not be controlled. I don't mind paying a FAIR price for content. I will view the content on the operating system and player of my choice legally, or I'll do so illegally. I will not be charged twice for same content. If I paid for it once I will not pay for it again under any circumstance. i.e. a CD of music. If I am charged the same for "un-owned/rented/streamed" content as I am for owned content, I'll just have to be illegal. The streamed/rented content needs to be WAAAAY cheaper. There is a better/cheaper alternative, although illegal so they have zero negotiating power. But even if I had to do without, I would not be forced to Windows or Apple. I just cancelled my Spectrum cable, not because I have gone completely over to Netflix or something else, but because I can no longer run a home grown DVR on linux with a cablecard tuner because of the encryption. I'll be illegal or even do without before I would give them my money.
I am ALL for a completely unencrypted, unblocked open format that is uniquely fingerprinted and traceable back to me. If I give the content away to someone else, by all means come after me. But I simply will not be sandboxed into using any operating system or player that is not open and under my control.
I think some aspects of Aspergers or other Autism spectrum disorders have it RIGHT in that emotion has no place in decision making. Do the right things for quantifiable reasons and don't expect everyone to read between the lines and come to same conclusions because people are too chicken shit to say what they mean.
Still sucks balls for real work even after all this time. Both unity and gnome 3 are still absolutely horrible for a real workstation that you sit in front of all day. I'm sorry, but the touch gui people who insist that 5-7 years worth of work can even come close to what mouse and keyboard have evolved and matured into after 40 years? How arrogant can you get? Even newer technologies like voice are going to fail in a real working environment. Its mouse and keyboard for anyone until a true neural interface is working. That will be the only things that tops 40 years worth of experimentation and on the job R&D that mouse/keyboard has seen.
When and only when this shit is completely autonomous with no need for internet access. I won't have my shit spying on me and I won't ask an external entity to control shit in my own home. I'll drill my own hole in my own firewall and control my devices directly with no 3rd party intervention.
Security against who? I am the owner of my devices. Anything that prevents the owner from doing what they wish is the definition of malware whether it is coded by Russians or by Google.
A persons device is the person who is administrator. If YOU aren't root on your own device then you aren't the owner. So now, if someone has to choose between traditional bad people trying to own your device with malware and make it work against you or googles malware making it work against you.
But this is the big myth perpetuated by the internet of things so they can sell YOU. All the functions of IOT gadgets can be had just as well from within your own home with VPN's and apps that don't have to tie into big brother but instead connect directly to the IOT thing.
I will NEVER be OK with asking a company for login or control permission for a thing that sits inside my own network.
So, of the 30 users who don't think Unity is a counterproductive pile of shit that works against the user if you do anything more than consume media, we now find out that "dozens" of those users were actually the developers of it.
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I realize they are talking about the majority of phone users, but if you are using a rooted phone and most of the tech oriented Roms, you can have your cake and eat it too. Lock down each app and security item granularly. Fuck what the app author wants. Fuck what the phone manufacturer wants. Its my phone and I'll be in control of my own security. Nothing pisses me off more than the scam that Google and device makers try to pull over on the public by not giving the owner of the device root. Heck most of the permissions in stock android are there to force you into the cloud, right down to the inability to back up your apps and data locally if you are using a stock device. Folder segregation in newer versions of android keep your own data locked out of your view so that you have to use cloud services to gain access to it.
As opposed to the whole device? Apple or Android if you don't have root and have ultimate control then the device itself is the malware. Malware is anything that works to the detriment of the owners wishes.
These types of absurd lawsuits need to be shot down immediately. Companies should not be liable for results of calculations, no matter what that calculation is or how offensive it may be.
The facebook fiasco is bad, but there simply needs to be the same rules for corporations that exist for government. The data that corporations collect now make laws against search and seizure and privacy regulations laughable. They can't get your data directly but simply allow Google and Facebook to know everything about you then get it that way. I went to a hospital this past weekend that wanted to scan my drivers license just to go see my dad in the hospital. I refused and said I prefer to move about anonymously and refused to give it up. Where are we going to be when EVERY place demands identification? The government can't directly track your movements gestapo "paper's please" style, but they'll effectively have the exact same trail. It's not acceptable for your identification to be needed to participate in society.
Its not even that. There is literally nothing that IoT devices do in the cloud that can't be done completely in the owners network. Anyone that allows devices on their network that basically have you authenticating to a companies servers outside your home or business to do something inside your home or business deserve everything they get.
Malware. Any system that treats the owner of the device as the problem is malware. I'm all for secure boot as long as the owner of the device decides what to tag as secure and has complete control over the encryption and lockdowns.
If I had one your phones apple, how would protect ** MY ** phone from you? Why should I even trust you to make my security decisions and app choices for me? If you believe in the ideal that you speak of, then you would provide tools so that the OWNER of the device is the one in complete control. Why do your users have to use an encryption system that you are in control of and could potentially be forced to hand over the security keys to in the first place? Why can they not use any app THEY choose and any encryption system THEY choose?
Linux on windows = stupid. Windows on linux = ok, but still stupid. Windows is a bloated, fat OS where FAR greater than 75% of its code is there to LIMIT what you can do in some way. It is always working against you and policing what you can do on your own system. Why would you allow it to be the base OS?
And anonymise the browser by just having it say yes I have it to every plugin, font, etc. and then just report LOCAL errors to the owner that content may not work because a plugin was requested that isn't actually installed. Also remove any and all functionality that allows outbound data to be sent without a user interaction... i.e. disable mouse location sensing, disable live fields that send data in real time such as google instant. Disable search in the address bar and any number of other things that reduce security and privacy of the user.
All have the same problem of being a walled garden that makes things difficult to push you into giving up more privacy and control. I'm using a Pixel now and have bypassed the Pixel 2 to save up for a Purism phone when they become available in early 2019.
Google especially is taking every possible step to aggravate people into giving them more control. I will be root on my own devices. Period. I will back up my data locally, not to the cloud. I will block ads and other traffic that I didn't explicitly ask for because I am charged for my data usage and because it is just more secure that way. I will have OS and apps under my control, not the manufacturer or carrier. I will use encryption that I control and have keys to, not encryption built in to the OS that can be given away to the authorities without my say.
Will I be nickel and dimed by every movie studio and TV channel separately. I'm a cord cutter. I will use ONE service and one service only and it will be the one that has the most content and the one that most liberally allows me to use devices, apps and operating systems that don't track my every movement. That or I'll either do without or pirate. It's their choice. DRM has gone beyond a way to police content, it is now forced as a way to force you to use entire content delivery systems that they control.
I'm both happy and sad about this. I hate seeing corporations fly above the law, but its about damn time that some body (company) stood up to the pay to play scheme that Taxi and other systems support. I will choose who I want to ride with, thank you very much. I am willing to accept the consequences if I choose poorly. Government needs to stay the hell out of it.
If this becomes the norm to where you can't buy one without it, I'll start selling finger anonymizers... otherwise known as fingertip condoms. Because I don't want my fucking finger print in your database or in any device that I'm not root and have full control of.
I can't believe anyone wants ANY cloud connected device in their homes. Why would I ask an outside company for permission to change a setting on a thermostat, or light, or alarm system or camera? That is exactly like buying a home and the real estate agent keeping the key and letting you inside only when they are satisifed... while also saying how you can arrange your furniture.. and periodically repainting without even asking you what you wanted. Also usually with the added "benefit" of locking rooms of the house off in the house you paid for so they can sell that room access back to you as an added feature.
The difference is that I will not be controlled. I don't mind paying a FAIR price for content. I will view the content on the operating system and player of my choice legally, or I'll do so illegally. I will not be charged twice for same content. If I paid for it once I will not pay for it again under any circumstance. i.e. a CD of music. If I am charged the same for "un-owned/rented/streamed" content as I am for owned content, I'll just have to be illegal. The streamed/rented content needs to be WAAAAY cheaper. There is a better/cheaper alternative, although illegal so they have zero negotiating power. But even if I had to do without, I would not be forced to Windows or Apple. I just cancelled my Spectrum cable, not because I have gone completely over to Netflix or something else, but because I can no longer run a home grown DVR on linux with a cablecard tuner because of the encryption. I'll be illegal or even do without before I would give them my money.
I am ALL for a completely unencrypted, unblocked open format that is uniquely fingerprinted and traceable back to me. If I give the content away to someone else, by all means come after me. But I simply will not be sandboxed into using any operating system or player that is not open and under my control.
I think some aspects of Aspergers or other Autism spectrum disorders have it RIGHT in that emotion has no place in decision making. Do the right things for quantifiable reasons and don't expect everyone to read between the lines and come to same conclusions because people are too chicken shit to say what they mean.
Still sucks balls for real work even after all this time. Both unity and gnome 3 are still absolutely horrible for a real workstation that you sit in front of all day. I'm sorry, but the touch gui people who insist that 5-7 years worth of work can even come close to what mouse and keyboard have evolved and matured into after 40 years? How arrogant can you get? Even newer technologies like voice are going to fail in a real working environment. Its mouse and keyboard for anyone until a true neural interface is working. That will be the only things that tops 40 years worth of experimentation and on the job R&D that mouse/keyboard has seen.
When and only when this shit is completely autonomous with no need for internet access. I won't have my shit spying on me and I won't ask an external entity to control shit in my own home. I'll drill my own hole in my own firewall and control my devices directly with no 3rd party intervention.
Security against who? I am the owner of my devices. Anything that prevents the owner from doing what they wish is the definition of malware whether it is coded by Russians or by Google.
A persons device is the person who is administrator. If YOU aren't root on your own device then you aren't the owner. So now, if someone has to choose between traditional bad people trying to own your device with malware and make it work against you or googles malware making it work against you.
Must be because of greatest desktop Gnome 3!
The gnome 3 developer located. That shit is horrible yo.
I reinstalled 3715 times trying to get a thermal issue solved with the 4.10 kernel.
But this is the big myth perpetuated by the internet of things so they can sell YOU. All the functions of IOT gadgets can be had just as well from within your own home with VPN's and apps that don't have to tie into big brother but instead connect directly to the IOT thing.
I will NEVER be OK with asking a company for login or control permission for a thing that sits inside my own network.
Douglas Adams is chuckling to himself. The answer to life the universe and everything really is 42.
So, of the 30 users who don't think Unity is a counterproductive pile of shit that works against the user if you do anything more than consume media, we now find out that "dozens" of those users were actually the developers of it.