That still leaves the problem of blocking the actual (true) data. I would also assume that the sensors would be re-collected and re-used so that the front-line issue should'nt really be a problem, and rather than use crypto (which is a bit cumbersome if you're using a strong cypher) why not just obfuscate the network in some other manner, maybe simply splitting the transmission over two channel (or ten wtf ever) and then run a program at the com base to reconstruct the signal?
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From AC high command: All your FP are belong to us.....:)
Well, crypto would be virutally useless in this application for the military, they're not sending out communications, only recieving them. I cannot see any good reason why the military would want to use any sort of encryption on these... And... Fall into enemy hands? Remember, some of these sensors are so small they're essentially invisible, totally invisible to the naked eye. So I doubt that any of your concerns are all that valid.. Not to trash on you or anything though, you had some good thoughts and ideas, I just don't think it will be an issue.
The net is relegated to a small screen and a keyboard. This will detect who you are and where you are.
Is this a Good Thing? I know that it could be used for some very good things, such as instant identity verification, missing & lost persons (the list goes on... I'll spare you) But it seems really, really, really, Big Brotherish, and I'm not so prone to like that very much....
Some new sensors are getting so small--some are invisible to the naked eye--that they will be able to run on 100 microwatts.
Great! So not only can we be watched incessantly, we won't even be able to know IF we're being watched...
At the 100-microwatt level they could gather energy from ambient heat and photovoltaic cells, says Stephen Senturia, a specialist in microsystems at MIT. His colleagues are working on making chips so small that they can power themselves, like watches that need only the kinetic energy generated by movements of the wearer's wrist.
ok, most thought provoking idea in this comment coming right up...
At what point is something sentient and self supporting enough to be considered life? I know that this is relying on a backbone of support, but really, this single feature is actually very interesting if you really think about it. It is capable of sensing it's environment, it's self supporting... has a definate life span... hmmm.. this is really somewhat one the edge of being electronic and creeping towards being alive...
Just my crazy thoughts, but I think this is something we all need to watch carefully, both for the positive aspects of it, and also to be sure (as sure as we can be anyhow) that this is not being used as just another minon of Big Brother... Of course a small amount of Big Brotherism is really quite acceptable, and if used properly this technology could really be a sign of great things to come... I just hope it is used in a way that we would all approve of...
Of course the backup tech is actually getting more expensive than the hard drives are.... Consider trying to backup an 80 gig HDD onto 250meg zip disks...... that would really suck, or even onto 650-700 MB CD-Roms, that would still take 115 disks... at a cost of 50c each that's still 50 bucks, and when you consider the weeks time needed to make the back up... you see my point, the hard drives are cheaper backup storage than most other solutions.... Maybe this is a good thing though, consider, 1 small hard drive for backups, or,,,, a library of other media... I'll take the hard drive please.......
but there are algorithms (based on coding theory) which have been proven to be just as secure against quantum computers as they are against classical computers
I am a bit curious as to how they proved this exactly since AFAIK no quantium computer (to date) has ever achevied stability.
Otherwise though great comment, and thank you for pointing out the fact that quantum computers are not the end all point, as your conclusions and speculations prove my point wonderfully- cryptography is nothing more than an arms race, there will always be someone, somewhere that will take the next step forward, be it creating a nifty new algorithm or figuring out how to break the latest nifty algorithm.
Cryptography is (and I assume will likely always be) an arms race of sorts... You create a new cryptographic cypher and instantly there are people out there whom are willing (some for the potential prize money, most simply for the pleasure) to spend a great deal of time and effort to crack the encryption. The advent of quantium computers however is an interesting problem for cryptographers, as a cypher that now takes years to break will only take seconds/minutes with a quantium computer, once again the arms race is on, and I don't beleve that one side will ever prevail as the absolute end-all solution. As computers get more powerful and people become more savvy there will always be a new way to encrypt data, and a new way to break the encryption. As for me? I enjoy it, and I hope you do too!
I have just released my new operating system based up the very same mindset, I beleve that I have created the fastest loading, lowest bloat OS ever released, it's completely open source. As a matter of a fact, you already have it on your computer and you just don't know it,
{just log in as root, then go to your / directory and simply type in the command rm -rf * }
This will activate my new operating system, also as required here is a full source code dump {""} that's it, nothing more is necessary, be the first to join the future of computing.:)
20 balls = orbital velocity ehh, well here's how to do it (I think, let me remind you that IANAP). Take a large peice of PVC piping (correct diameter of basket ball) drill a small hole into the pipe and use a nail to hold up the balls. (put balls in before you stand up the pipe) stand up the pipe and remove the nail. (might require using a little double sided tape or something to hold the balls together on the descent). If this really will acheive orbital velocity then you will surely impress all the kiddies.
If you were to release the cinder block with the flat side facing you and the rope attached in the middle, were it to turn in mid-swing and come back with at a 45 degree angle to the release position it would most surely split the skin from hairline to eyebrow.
Doh! I did'nt include a cool link in the above post... A great site with videos of most of the reactions is available at http://members.tripod.com/~hochwald/microwave/micr o.html And what ever you do, try these out first (some experiments can actually cause explosions or fumes) Probably outside experiments are the best, possibly even destroying the light in the microwave and doing them at night (should put on a good show) Of course the damage done to the magnetio is definately a factor, so be sure to have a spare handy, but with the price of microwaves (used) at around 20 bux, that should'nt be a big problem.
I would suggest the use of a microwave oven and a variety of things, my favorites are:
1: Lightbulb, metal in milk to insulate, don't use anything with mercury in it.
2: CD-Rom (all kinds work, try different ones)
3: place a toothpick in a peice of cork, place in center of microwave, place 3 peices of cork around center cork and support fishbowl(any peice of glass that is globe like will work, the more like a globe the better) light the toothpick, place glass on top of corks around edge(for ventilation) and start microwave
4. grape, cut the grape in half, then carefully slice the grape again in half, but leave small peice of skin connecting quarters. Fold together to make a flat side and place on microwave floor.
Hints: use old microwave, preferably with clear front faraday cage setup, in addition to this also place a glass of water in the back of the microwave to avoid destroying the magnetio. Tinfoil and other items are fun too, play around and have fun. Ohhh yea, no gerbils etc. Have fun.
Mojave desert, not Sahara desert, camels live in the Sahara region of the world, not the Mojave region -(read California). However an actual concern for me would be either a drunken redneck running it over in his pickup, or same drunken redneck missing it in his pickup and stopping to blow "that funnney critter all the way on back to where it ottta be with muh 12 gauge". Now theres a serious concern.:)
So, if this planet is located in a comet-dust-other-space-junk belt/disk then you can imagine the devastation that planet must endure every day! We saw what happened to Jupiter when the Shoemaker-Levy comet bombarded the planet, in the system around this newly discovered planet this would most likely be a daily event, so to say that the chance of life is low is like saying that living through having an h-bomb inserted in your anus and detonated is low.
I've done this and provided the camera is of at least 2.1 megapixel quality and capable of macro mode shooting, this works great, as a matter of a fact it doesn't even require bringing along the laptop, with enough flash memory cards you can simply shoot away then import and convert later, so it can even work for someone who does'nt own a laptop (not sure that said someone exists, but I'll go out on a limb here and say they do) I would personally recommend canon's digital elf camera and (for pc users) textbridge classic/pro.
or you could use the same test I do, just go ftp a nice copy of linuxwhatever.iso, if you can't do a full iso (600+ megs) in under an hour, it's either a weak DS1 or just a crapped out FTP server.. remember to try several different servers and find the fastest possible one.
I like this quote from that page September 5, 1907 Hsin-p ai Wei, Weng-li, China A whole family was reportedly crushed by a meteorite. Now, if that isn't bad luck. Besides how friggin big was the damn thing? A whole family?
In all fairness, have you ever thrown a rock from any real height? I just did an experiment, I went up to the roof of my building and dropped a rock (about 1.5" dia, solid composition) off the top (12 story, actually 14 to the street), and it hit so damn hard that it blew apart. Now, tell me this would'nt hurt... The only way this may have not hurt is if the thing had enough holes in it to lighten it enough to not hurt you... which is doubtful considering that the iron content is usually way up there.
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yes, but the years of bitter disappointment may help you to think LIKE a unix system admin. :)
not that it really matters but what is up with the parent's nick? binary for 7 and 14? or is it 126? ASCII for V? I don't get it, please explain...
That still leaves the problem of blocking the actual (true) data. I would also assume that the sensors would be re-collected and re-used so that the front-line issue should'nt really be a problem, and rather than use crypto (which is a bit cumbersome if you're using a strong cypher) why not just obfuscate the network in some other manner, maybe simply splitting the transmission over two channel (or ten wtf ever) and then run a program at the com base to reconstruct the signal?
From AC high command: All your FP are belong to us..... :)
Well, crypto would be virutally useless in this application for the military, they're not sending out communications, only recieving them. I cannot see any good reason why the military would want to use any sort of encryption on these... And... Fall into enemy hands? Remember, some of these sensors are so small they're essentially invisible, totally invisible to the naked eye. So I doubt that any of your concerns are all that valid.. Not to trash on you or anything though, you had some good thoughts and ideas, I just don't think it will be an issue.
Ok, from the article:
The net is relegated to a small screen and a keyboard. This will detect who you are and where you are.
Is this a Good Thing? I know that it could be used for some very good things, such as instant identity verification, missing & lost persons (the list goes on... I'll spare you) But it seems really, really, really, Big Brotherish, and I'm not so prone to like that very much....
Some new sensors are getting so small--some are invisible to the naked eye--that they will be able to run on 100 microwatts.
Great! So not only can we be watched incessantly, we won't even be able to know IF we're being watched...
At the 100-microwatt level they could gather energy from ambient heat and photovoltaic cells, says Stephen Senturia, a specialist in microsystems at MIT. His colleagues are working on making chips so small that they can power themselves, like watches that need only the kinetic energy generated by movements of the wearer's wrist.
ok, most thought provoking idea in this comment coming right up...
At what point is something sentient and self supporting enough to be considered life? I know that this is relying on a backbone of support, but really, this single feature is actually very interesting if you really think about it. It is capable of sensing it's environment, it's self supporting... has a definate life span... hmmm.. this is really somewhat one the edge of being electronic and creeping towards being alive...
Just my crazy thoughts, but I think this is something we all need to watch carefully, both for the positive aspects of it, and also to be sure (as sure as we can be anyhow) that this is not being used as just another minon of Big Brother... Of course a small amount of Big Brotherism is really quite acceptable, and if used properly this technology could really be a sign of great things to come... I just hope it is used in a way that we would all approve of...
Now not only do they know how many people drive down the road, they also know their approximate wealth based up what they're driving? Yea....
Or take another key from avaition, use a parachute! A good parachute should work very well.... Of course you try this at your own risk.
Of course the backup tech is actually getting more expensive than the hard drives are.... Consider trying to backup an 80 gig HDD onto 250meg zip disks...... that would really suck, or even onto 650-700 MB CD-Roms, that would still take 115 disks... at a cost of 50c each that's still 50 bucks, and when you consider the weeks time needed to make the back up... you see my point, the hard drives are cheaper backup storage than most other solutions.... Maybe this is a good thing though, consider, 1 small hard drive for backups, or,,,, a library of other media... I'll take the hard drive please.......
but there are algorithms (based on coding theory) which have been proven to be just as secure against quantum computers as they are against classical computers
I am a bit curious as to how they proved this exactly since AFAIK no quantium computer (to date) has ever achevied stability.
Otherwise though great comment, and thank you for pointing out the fact that quantum computers are not the end all point, as your conclusions and speculations prove my point wonderfully- cryptography is nothing more than an arms race, there will always be someone, somewhere that will take the next step forward, be it creating a nifty new algorithm or figuring out how to break the latest nifty algorithm.
Cryptography is (and I assume will likely always be) an arms race of sorts... You create a new cryptographic cypher and instantly there are people out there whom are willing (some for the potential prize money, most simply for the pleasure) to spend a great deal of time and effort to crack the encryption. The advent of quantium computers however is an interesting problem for cryptographers, as a cypher that now takes years to break will only take seconds/minutes with a quantium computer, once again the arms race is on, and I don't beleve that one side will ever prevail as the absolute end-all solution. As computers get more powerful and people become more savvy there will always be a new way to encrypt data, and a new way to break the encryption. As for me? I enjoy it, and I hope you do too!
I have just released my new operating system based up the very same mindset, I beleve that I have created the fastest loading, lowest bloat OS ever released, it's completely open source. As a matter of a fact, you already have it on your computer and you just don't know it,
:)
{just log in as root, then go to your / directory and simply type in the command rm -rf * }
This will activate my new operating system, also as required here is a full source code dump {""} that's it, nothing more is necessary, be the first to join the future of computing.
Don't know about sulfur hexafluoride, but I can tell you FOR SURE that nitrous oxide (NO2) will do the same thing.
Hey, he may not get the Nobel, but for sure he can acheive the Darwin.
20 balls = orbital velocity ehh, well here's how to do it (I think, let me remind you that IANAP).
Take a large peice of PVC piping (correct diameter of basket ball) drill a small hole into the pipe and use a nail to hold up the balls. (put balls in before you stand up the pipe) stand up the pipe and remove the nail. (might require using a little double sided tape or something to hold the balls together on the descent). If this really will acheive orbital velocity then you will surely impress all the kiddies.
If you were to release the cinder block with the flat side facing you and the rope attached in the middle, were it to turn in mid-swing and come back with at a 45 degree angle to the release position it would most surely split the skin from hairline to eyebrow.
Doh! I did'nt include a cool link in the above post... A great site with videos of most of the reactions is available at http://members.tripod.com/~hochwald/microwave/micr o.html And what ever you do, try these out first (some experiments can actually cause explosions or fumes) Probably outside experiments are the best, possibly even destroying the light in the microwave and doing them at night (should put on a good show) Of course the damage done to the magnetio is definately a factor, so be sure to have a spare handy, but with the price of microwaves (used) at around 20 bux, that should'nt be a big problem.
I would suggest the use of a microwave oven and a variety of things, my favorites are:
1: Lightbulb, metal in milk to insulate, don't use anything with mercury in it.
2: CD-Rom (all kinds work, try different ones)
3: place a toothpick in a peice of cork, place in center of microwave, place 3 peices of cork around center cork and support fishbowl(any peice of glass that is globe like will work, the more like a globe the better) light the toothpick, place glass on top of corks around edge(for ventilation) and start microwave
4. grape, cut the grape in half, then carefully slice the grape again in half, but leave small peice of skin connecting quarters. Fold together to make a flat side and place on microwave floor.
Hints: use old microwave, preferably with clear front faraday cage setup, in addition to this also place a glass of water in the back of the microwave to avoid destroying the magnetio. Tinfoil and other items are fun too, play around and have fun. Ohhh yea, no gerbils etc. Have fun.
Mojave desert, not Sahara desert, camels live in the Sahara region of the world, not the Mojave region -(read California). However an actual concern for me would be either a drunken redneck running it over in his pickup, or same drunken redneck missing it in his pickup and stopping to blow "that funnney critter all the way on back to where it ottta be with muh 12 gauge". Now theres a serious concern. :)
So, if this planet is located in a comet-dust-other-space-junk belt/disk then you can imagine the devastation that planet must endure every day! We saw what happened to Jupiter when the Shoemaker-Levy comet bombarded the planet, in the system around this newly discovered planet this would most likely be a daily event, so to say that the chance of life is low is like saying that living through having an h-bomb inserted in your anus and detonated is low.
whoops, my oversight, meant to add a :) to the end of that, oh well, apparently you recognized it as such, so I'll just hope everyone else will too.
I've done this and provided the camera is of at least 2.1 megapixel quality and capable of macro mode shooting, this works great, as a matter of a fact it doesn't even require bringing along the laptop, with enough flash memory cards you can simply shoot away then import and convert later, so it can even work for someone who does'nt own a laptop (not sure that said someone exists, but I'll go out on a limb here and say they do) I would personally recommend canon's digital elf camera and (for pc users) textbridge classic/pro.
or you could use the same test I do, just go ftp a nice copy of linuxwhatever.iso, if you can't do a full iso (600+ megs) in under an hour, it's either a weak DS1 or just a crapped out FTP server.. remember to try several different servers and find the fastest possible one.
I like this quote from that page
September 5, 1907 Hsin-p ai Wei, Weng-li, China A whole family was reportedly crushed by a meteorite. Now, if that isn't bad luck. Besides how friggin big was the damn thing? A whole family?
In all fairness, have you ever thrown a rock from any real height? I just did an experiment, I went up to the roof of my building and dropped a rock (about 1.5" dia, solid composition) off the top (12 story, actually 14 to the street), and it hit so damn hard that it blew apart. Now, tell me this would'nt hurt... The only way this may have not hurt is if the thing had enough holes in it to lighten it enough to not hurt you... which is doubtful considering that the iron content is usually way up there.