You know, I think you'd be surprised at how many of your points we agree on. I count three and a half out of six (the half-point because, while I agree that unrestricted immigration is not such a good idea, I don't share your obsession with such irrelevant trivialities as the "biological similarity" between peoples). However, I manage this without calling for the genocide and subjugation of those different from myself, and I endorse other peoples' right to self-defense against those who do.
There are other differences between us, and, I'm sure, other similarities. But this is the one that makes all the difference. It is not "my way or Nazism" by any stretch of the imagination, but your way is Nazism. And that is why you must be stamped out.
I was just talking about bathroom fixtures. The Guggenheim offered him a solid gold toilet, you know. I just figured he'd gotten interested in plumbing or something -reasonable enough hobby to have- and you know Trump and his love for decorative accents in 24 karats. Seemed a perfect match to me.
Why all this fuss? What, does a golden shower mean something else?
No one to the left of Orrin Hatch would ever mistake me for a leftist. On some issues, I'm probably further right than you. I just happen to also be a decent human being.
Truth be told, I objected to the treason charge before this latest development. Too much fuzziness on the definition of an "enemy", and thus too much chance of Trump slithering away on a technicality. I'd have preferred to see the Espionage Act used to charge him instead: same punishments, less legalese. But this angle on the T-word could very well work.
According to the most recent public intelligence, this assertion is technically true as far as it goes. The goal was to call the election's legitimacy into question and undermine the Hillary presidency that basically everyone thought was inevitable. The Russians got half their wish: they did indeed call the legitimacy of the election into question. The Trump victory was an accident: unanticipated, unintended, and frankly undesired (because they spent all this effort to delegitimize an enemy, but wound up delegitimizing an asset instead).
And if you think about it, Trump's collusion with the Russians makes more sense in this light. It is a very poorly kept secret that Trump didn't want to win: he got into the election for the lulz, but didn't want the responsibility. He had no reason to collude with people who wanted him to win, because that wasn't his goal. But undermining a seemingly inevitable Hillary presidency? That's something Trump would be 100% on board for. This brings the goals of Trump and the Russians into alignment, and then collusion makes sense again.
It has another effect, too. If we look at the goals in this way, Trump wasn't a mere colluder, giving aid and comfort to someone who might or might not qualify as an "enemy" depending on legal definitions. These circumstances would make him an active participant in the operations: a centerpiece of the psyops that went along with the hacking and fake news. That means he personally committed acts of war against the US, which is treason whether or not the people helping you count as an "enemy" for legal purposes.
In other words, sure; the fake news and meddling wasn't architected to help Trump win. This is actually worse for Trump than if they had been, because it leads to a more solid argument for a treason charge: one that doesn't let him hide behind technicalities.
Doubtful, at this point. If I were already a part of the community, perhaps, but as things stand, anyone who would be offended by what I'm saying is going to get kicked off the project well before I join. That leaves me little reason to say these things within the community anyway.
If you don't like this, there is a simple solution. Not an easy one -I understand that- but it works every time and nothing else does. All you have to do is grow up.
I don't equate everybody who verbally offends me with Nazis, no.
Except you just did.
I did literally the opposite.
The Nazis use you, and you give them your informed consent, and all I'm doing is respecting their claim on you.
No they don't.
You claim to know that little about the people you're defending? I don't buy that for a second. You've known ever since you signed up for the Daily Stormer.
I could just as easily say that the terrorists use you and you give them your informed consent by being a cowardly fearmonger and it would have the same credibility.
Ah, so you assume I don't support the global war on terror, do you? So sorry to disappoint, but you're wrong: after you're gone, Daesh is next. It's just a matter of priorities; you go after the biggest threats first. Any doctor could tell you the importance of triage.
Doesn't make them any less dystopian, and I'd rather fight all three, but the SJWs are still better people to be around than your sort.
And what is my sort? Honest, terse and direct?
Quite the opposite: your sort lie like rugs about your intentions while burying your vileness in far more words than you need to. There is nothing direct about it. You may as well just spout a couple slogans and acronyms: there would be no difference in substance.
That's better than being the delicate and dishonest sugar faerie that you and your SJW brethren are.
So you also think I don't believe there's a crisis of irresiliency in people today, especially among the SJW crowd. Wrong again. It's almost funny; I go out of my way to explain how I don't equate anyone who disagrees with me with the Nazis, and here you go equating everyone who disagrees with you with being SJWs. The truth is, we're far more alike than different, you and I. The only difference, it seems, is that I'm a decent and functional human being.
I've been calling the Communists a dystopia ever since this thread began. What more do you want?
You're still worse. The only reason you didn't kill more people than Stalin is that you ran out of time when your dear leader killed himself. Stalin and the Soviets did a lot of terrible shiat putting you down, yes. This was not saints versus sinners; it was sinners versus demons. But the demons still lost, and the Soviets were a large part of why, and that makes their contribution valuable. Credit where it's due.
Why don't you grow up and stop whining and crying about what other people think and say.
I'm not whining about what other people think and say. I am "whining" about attempted genocide. You are not fooling anybody.
You want a monoculture world where everyone's values and opinions line up perfectly with your own.
The opposite, actually. But a decebt and diverse world cannot function while there are people still attempting to commit genocide: these, therefore, must be stamped out.
Sorry to break this to you, but the world isn't like that. There are many outlooks and you are an uncultured, untraveled and unlearned piece of shit for trying to stifle that.
Amazing. Every assumption you just stated about me was completely incorrect. In fact, the only correct assumption you made about me in your entire post was that I am in fact male, and I suspect you just got lucky on that one.
This, I suspect; is why you can't get a date. Girls can smell the creepy on you, and they do everything they can to get away without setting off your tantrums. What's a manchild like you doing telling anyone to grow up?
Ah, as one of the bitter untouchables tries to brand me a troll. Sorry, Elliot; no one wants you around, because you're a disgusting creep, and now they're formulating the necessary rules to kick you to the curb like they should have done at the start.
Don't like it? I don't blame you for that. But there's a fix: you can grow the hell up and start acting like a person. You just don't want to, and that, I do blame you for.
I don't equate everybody who verbally offends me with Nazis, no. People who support the genocide and/or subjugation of other peoples, that's another matter. Likewise for those who support "separatism", which I've found to be little more than genocide and subjugation muttered under one's breath. Likewise for people who knowingly and willingly make themselves part of the machine by which they mask their presence and abuse their countrymen and their rights. The Nazis use you, and you give them your informed consent, and all I'm doing is respecting their claim on you.
Am I doing what I claim to be against? No. I don't support killing, enslaving, or separating from others based on ethnicity, beliefs, opinions: essentially, anything people are. But things people do, like commiting such abominations, plotting to do it, or aiding those who do these things)? Against those, I claim right of self-defense.
And me? An SJW? Don't make me laugh. I see very little "justice" in their agenda at all. Elsewhere in the thread I mentioned that if I were forced to pick a dystopia, I'd pick the communists over the Nazis, but I'd pick the SJWs over either one. Doesn't make them any less dystopian, and I'd rather fight all three, but the SJWs are still better people to be around than your sort.
That would be why I said "if I had to pick a dystopia", yes. Frankly I'd prefer to fight both. Better dead than red and all that.
But if dead is not an option, then better red than Nazi. The communists were valuable allies the last time the Nazis had to be put in their place. They're a better bunch to live with than you'll ever be.
Everyone who doesn't agree with you is a communist, huh? That certainly sounds like something a Nazi would say. If you hate the term that much, I'll be sure to use it more often.
Put a Dislike button ln all posts. Anyone who clicks it is banned for two weeks. There is no other effect.
This will improve Facebook immensely, because the only people who would ever find any real use for a Dislike button are people who should not be on Facebook. Why not let them self-select for the banhammer?
It would be more important if the trolls and the Nazis hadn't ruined it for everybody. But it has been so horribly abused, especially with the advent of the Internet, that it has ceased to be useful as a principle. Too many people take ruthless advantage of it, either to hide their agendas or just to amuse themselves. End result: the Principle of Charity is basically dead.
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You know, I think you'd be surprised at how many of your points we agree on. I count three and a half out of six (the half-point because, while I agree that unrestricted immigration is not such a good idea, I don't share your obsession with such irrelevant trivialities as the "biological similarity" between peoples). However, I manage this without calling for the genocide and subjugation of those different from myself, and I endorse other peoples' right to self-defense against those who do.
There are other differences between us, and, I'm sure, other similarities. But this is the one that makes all the difference. It is not "my way or Nazism" by any stretch of the imagination, but your way is Nazism. And that is why you must be stamped out.
Man, can't a guy talk about home furnishings anymore without it getting all political? Who pissed on your parade today?
I was just talking about bathroom fixtures. The Guggenheim offered him a solid gold toilet, you know. I just figured he'd gotten interested in plumbing or something -reasonable enough hobby to have- and you know Trump and his love for decorative accents in 24 karats. Seemed a perfect match to me.
Why all this fuss? What, does a golden shower mean something else?
Pee-Wee Herman called. He wants his retort back.
Seriously, you need to clean up your game. I suggest a shower; I hear your God-Emperor can get you a golden one.
Ooh, someone's getting all pants-wetting mad here.
No one to the left of Orrin Hatch would ever mistake me for a leftist. On some issues, I'm probably further right than you. I just happen to also be a decent human being.
Truth be told, I objected to the treason charge before this latest development. Too much fuzziness on the definition of an "enemy", and thus too much chance of Trump slithering away on a technicality. I'd have preferred to see the Espionage Act used to charge him instead: same punishments, less legalese. But this angle on the T-word could very well work.
One, two, Mueller's coming for you...
According to the most recent public intelligence, this assertion is technically true as far as it goes. The goal was to call the election's legitimacy into question and undermine the Hillary presidency that basically everyone thought was inevitable. The Russians got half their wish: they did indeed call the legitimacy of the election into question. The Trump victory was an accident: unanticipated, unintended, and frankly undesired (because they spent all this effort to delegitimize an enemy, but wound up delegitimizing an asset instead).
And if you think about it, Trump's collusion with the Russians makes more sense in this light. It is a very poorly kept secret that Trump didn't want to win: he got into the election for the lulz, but didn't want the responsibility. He had no reason to collude with people who wanted him to win, because that wasn't his goal. But undermining a seemingly inevitable Hillary presidency? That's something Trump would be 100% on board for. This brings the goals of Trump and the Russians into alignment, and then collusion makes sense again.
It has another effect, too. If we look at the goals in this way, Trump wasn't a mere colluder, giving aid and comfort to someone who might or might not qualify as an "enemy" depending on legal definitions. These circumstances would make him an active participant in the operations: a centerpiece of the psyops that went along with the hacking and fake news. That means he personally committed acts of war against the US, which is treason whether or not the people helping you count as an "enemy" for legal purposes.
In other words, sure; the fake news and meddling wasn't architected to help Trump win. This is actually worse for Trump than if they had been, because it leads to a more solid argument for a treason charge: one that doesn't let him hide behind technicalities.
Doubtful, at this point. If I were already a part of the community, perhaps, but as things stand, anyone who would be offended by what I'm saying is going to get kicked off the project well before I join. That leaves me little reason to say these things within the community anyway.
If you don't like this, there is a simple solution. Not an easy one -I understand that- but it works every time and nothing else does. All you have to do is grow up.
I don't equate everybody who verbally offends me with Nazis, no.
Except you just did.
I did literally the opposite.
The Nazis use you, and you give them your informed consent, and all I'm doing is respecting their claim on you.
No they don't.
You claim to know that little about the people you're defending? I don't buy that for a second. You've known ever since you signed up for the Daily Stormer.
I could just as easily say that the terrorists use you and you give them your informed consent by being a cowardly fearmonger and it would have the same credibility.
Ah, so you assume I don't support the global war on terror, do you? So sorry to disappoint, but you're wrong: after you're gone, Daesh is next. It's just a matter of priorities; you go after the biggest threats first. Any doctor could tell you the importance of triage.
Doesn't make them any less dystopian, and I'd rather fight all three, but the SJWs are still better people to be around than your sort.
And what is my sort? Honest, terse and direct?
Quite the opposite: your sort lie like rugs about your intentions while burying your vileness in far more words than you need to. There is nothing direct about it. You may as well just spout a couple slogans and acronyms: there would be no difference in substance.
That's better than being the delicate and dishonest sugar faerie that you and your SJW brethren are.
So you also think I don't believe there's a crisis of irresiliency in people today, especially among the SJW crowd. Wrong again. It's almost funny; I go out of my way to explain how I don't equate anyone who disagrees with me with the Nazis, and here you go equating everyone who disagrees with you with being SJWs. The truth is, we're far more alike than different, you and I. The only difference, it seems, is that I'm a decent and functional human being.
I've been calling the Communists a dystopia ever since this thread began. What more do you want?
You're still worse. The only reason you didn't kill more people than Stalin is that you ran out of time when your dear leader killed himself. Stalin and the Soviets did a lot of terrible shiat putting you down, yes. This was not saints versus sinners; it was sinners versus demons. But the demons still lost, and the Soviets were a large part of why, and that makes their contribution valuable. Credit where it's due.
Why don't you grow up and stop whining and crying about what other people think and say.
I'm not whining about what other people think and say. I am "whining" about attempted genocide. You are not fooling anybody.
You want a monoculture world where everyone's values and opinions line up perfectly with your own.
The opposite, actually. But a decebt and diverse world cannot function while there are people still attempting to commit genocide: these, therefore, must be stamped out.
Sorry to break this to you, but the world isn't like that. There are many outlooks and you are an uncultured, untraveled and unlearned piece of shit for trying to stifle that.
Amazing. Every assumption you just stated about me was completely incorrect. In fact, the only correct assumption you made about me in your entire post was that I am in fact male, and I suspect you just got lucky on that one.
This, I suspect; is why you can't get a date. Girls can smell the creepy on you, and they do everything they can to get away without setting off your tantrums. What's a manchild like you doing telling anyone to grow up?
Ah, as one of the bitter untouchables tries to brand me a troll. Sorry, Elliot; no one wants you around, because you're a disgusting creep, and now they're formulating the necessary rules to kick you to the curb like they should have done at the start.
Don't like it? I don't blame you for that. But there's a fix: you can grow the hell up and start acting like a person. You just don't want to, and that, I do blame you for.
I don't equate everybody who verbally offends me with Nazis, no. People who support the genocide and/or subjugation of other peoples, that's another matter. Likewise for those who support "separatism", which I've found to be little more than genocide and subjugation muttered under one's breath. Likewise for people who knowingly and willingly make themselves part of the machine by which they mask their presence and abuse their countrymen and their rights. The Nazis use you, and you give them your informed consent, and all I'm doing is respecting their claim on you.
Am I doing what I claim to be against? No. I don't support killing, enslaving, or separating from others based on ethnicity, beliefs, opinions: essentially, anything people are. But things people do, like commiting such abominations, plotting to do it, or aiding those who do these things)? Against those, I claim right of self-defense.
And me? An SJW? Don't make me laugh. I see very little "justice" in their agenda at all. Elsewhere in the thread I mentioned that if I were forced to pick a dystopia, I'd pick the communists over the Nazis, but I'd pick the SJWs over either one. Doesn't make them any less dystopian, and I'd rather fight all three, but the SJWs are still better people to be around than your sort.
That would be why I said "if I had to pick a dystopia", yes. Frankly I'd prefer to fight both. Better dead than red and all that.
But if dead is not an option, then better red than Nazi. The communists were valuable allies the last time the Nazis had to be put in their place. They're a better bunch to live with than you'll ever be.
Everyone who doesn't agree with you is a communist, huh? That certainly sounds like something a Nazi would say. If you hate the term that much, I'll be sure to use it more often.
The Nazis didn't exterminate the filth; they were the filth. Just like they are today.
If I've no choice but to pick a dystopia, I'll take the communists over the Nazis.
The only ones who won't want to stick around are the ones nobody wanted around in the first place.
Go back to /pol/, creep.
We already know it's causing depression in pretty much every other group. It would be more newsworthy if it didn't cause depression in children.
Put a Dislike button ln all posts. Anyone who clicks it is banned for two weeks. There is no other effect.
This will improve Facebook immensely, because the only people who would ever find any real use for a Dislike button are people who should not be on Facebook. Why not let them self-select for the banhammer?
The man behind the Hydraulic Press Channel is named Lauri, in fact.
It would be more important if the trolls and the Nazis hadn't ruined it for everybody. But it has been so horribly abused, especially with the advent of the Internet, that it has ceased to be useful as a principle. Too many people take ruthless advantage of it, either to hide their agendas or just to amuse themselves. End result: the Principle of Charity is basically dead.
Using UID length as a proxy for other length measurements makes the baby Jesus cry.