The Mach "microkernel" is SLOW. Get that through your head.
Yes, I have no doubt that the unoptimized, pre-prerelease of Mach that you used, if you've even ever used any Mach-based operating systems at all, is slow. Why not actually try using this one and see what its speed is now? If what I've heard is true Apple's done so much to the Mach code that you can hardly even call it Mach anymore.
Sure every OS has it's purpose and OS X will be easier to configure than Linux but it won't be faster, different needs, different OS's.
Please, try using an OS before you bash it, at least.
The point is, you shouldn't even have had to do that. Three months? A computer that takes three months to learn is unnecessarily hard to learn and use. Computers are meant to be tools, something you can pick up in a matter of days, if not hours. "Open computing for everyone," you know?
The only clue I had was the hair; that didn't look quite right.
But you know, while such realism might make CG-movies seem more real, it also takes away some of the charm. I'm sure that we've all seen "Toy Story" by now; tell me, would it have been the same if all the toys had looked any more realistic than they did? I think it would have.
Nonetheless, I'll be first in line to buy tickets to this movie. This is going to be cool...
That's funny. Explain, then, why I mapped control-click, option-click, and command-click to the three extra buttons on my Kensington Thinking Mouse.
Because you wanted to. I personally use double-click, control-click, and clock-lock on my Turbo Mouse.
Webserving with decent speed? Hosting multiple users? Logging in to a server securely via ssh using free software? Using a web-browser that isn't slower than molassas in January?
In order: Quid Pro Quo, FoolProof, NiftyTelnet (with the SSH modifications), Mozilla (hell, IE is almost respectable on the Mac; it's quite fast).
By the way, by "free software" did you mean free beer, or free speech? NiftyTelnet follows the free beet model, BetterTelnet (which has an SSH mod) follows free speech.
Where's my grep? My top? My w? My uptime?
Grep: Grapple. It's a straight port, but with a GUI. Top: Please; I can name six different apps. w/uptine: I can write you a script to get that sort of sunctionality in ten minutes. And there are several uptime-style apps out there anyway, so why bother with that?
If OSX is vapor, please explain this to my computer which runs it. I've been trying to explain this to it for a long time, but it appears to be in denial and runs just fine.
That isn't a bad idea. MacOS has done something very similar to that one for years; I'm rather surprised Windoze didn't use it too. The Windows Registry is little more than a giant kludge ("giant" most definitely being the operative word). But then, so is most of the rest of the OS...
But it's certainly a violation of privacy, and should be taken down if only for that reason. Come to think of it, how did they get those addresses, anyway, especially those of the patients? Those were likely found through illegal means; I don't know of any abortion clinics which give out that sort of info.
Look. This article was written with wuite a foolish holes in it. What I find amazing is that all of the rebuttals I see still fall into those same holes. Let me explain:
Linux is an OS. Apple sells computers. You cannor compare software and hardware; it's like... well... comparing apples and oranges.
Everyone here, MacOpinion writer and Slashdot reader alike, assumes that MacOS will stay at the "classic" codebase. Nobody, it seems, took OSX into account. That has the potential to change everything, by removing every argument Linux users have against MacOS except the Open-Source issue (and I wouldn't discount Jobs on that part yet, considering that the last developer CD included the source to the entire command-line layer). We will simply have to wait and see.
Some here talk about people valuing "form over function." What on Earth are you talking about? The latest Apple machines are a pretty damn good mix of both, even the iMacs (which, you must remember, were not aimed at the average Slashdot reader).
Now, it's true that all great empires eventually fall. MacOS peaked and declined. Microsoft is starting its eventual decline. Linux and MacOS appear to be both on the rise again (empires can come back after declining, after all). Eventually, both will fall when something better comes around; that's inevitable. Perhaps it'll be OSX, but it might be HURD, or some incarnation of BSD, or maybe M$ will surprise us all and come out with a respectable OS, or Be could somehow take the field in a serious way, or whatever; make no mistake it will happen. It's all a question of when, and what will replace it.
When was the last time you looked at the figured, my friend? That data is at least two years old. By all accounts it's approaching ten rather rapidly in the market I assume you're quoting: the retail market (seeing as that is the only market in which Mac market share has ever dropped that low).
I might also add that you use the inappropriate statistic of "the market." Which market do you mean? There's far more than one, after all. Do you mean business? Home? Education (where MacOS holds over sixty percent?) Content creation?
Not authorization. A license. You get that by studying law and passing tests. What's the matter with that? Same as a license to practice medicine.
However, software is meant to be an assistant. If it can pass the same type of tests which lawyers undergo, why should that be banned? That is, I believe, similar to how such software is already tested; questions like those on a bar exam are fed tothe software and the advice given by the software is evaluated.
I might add that non-software-based "do-it-yourself last will and testament kits" are available. These are perfectly legal, so why not software-based kits?
Slashdot is working faster than normal, and every last site mentioned in this article is Slashdotted.
You know, Slashdot has a lot of clout, apparently. Perhaps we should put the Slashdot Effect to some good use. Ideas:
Slashdot everyone posting ads on Slashdot, using the ad banners. You know, throw a little money Rob's way...
Slashdot Microsoft's site. The ultimate denial-of-service attack. Watch the sysadmins cry as the NT-based servers curl up in the corner, whimpering piteously under the loads they can't handle.
Slashdot various online petitions dealing with important matters like encryption. Actually, Slashdot would probably have to host most of those petitions, simply because few other servers could handle that strain.
I remember reading that book as a child. Obviously I was destined for computer greatness even then:)
What about those other great technical manuals, Jack and the Device Tree and Goldilocks and the Three BSD's?
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I've visited the school recently. Today most of those PowerMacs are gone. History, because of the Mac OS.
Doubtful. More likely because of M$ FUD, which plagues Mac and Linux alike (in fact, thanks to the fact that M$ doesn't really take Linux seriously yet, the linux community has been spared much of the FUD that's hit MacOS, and yes I do know how much FUD is heaped on both OS's on a daily basis).
I think overall Windows has a much better interface than Mac OS. And most people agree.
Most people where? Even among Windows users, every last person I've ever talked to about the issue has perferred the Mac interface hands-down. Even the Windows developers I've talked to (and I've talked to more than you might think) prefer MacOS almost unanimously, developing for Windoze only because that's where the money is.
Linux... well, I don't know about Linux. I use it myself, and admittedly you can get the interface to the point where it far exceeds Windows and approaches MacOS (after a great deal of hassle) but it still has more than a little work to do. The rest prefer some other operating system.
In other words, the music industry wants to cash in on this lyrics server. They cared nothing about their so-called "intellectual property" anyway; this does, I believe, fall under the category of fair use.
Time, perhaps, to start another server? Not with anything from Lyrics.ch; it'd be too risky. That means a lot of work, but hopefully someone's up to the task...
Crapple? Please. I'm a viscious Mac-defender and I've done better Apple insults than that. My girlfriend, who's by her own admission less of a techie than any of us (though she prefers Macs but due to circumstances beyond her control has to use a Win98 box) has done better than that.
My personal favorite: "Lemon Computer." Never heard anyone on/. use it before, though.
The idea is unbelieveably cool. Maybe I'll try building a woodwn case sometime (the problem, of course, is ventilation). The site itself is most likely a hoax, but I do like the idea.
This was really poor planning on RedHat's part. I doubt they expected to be down for this long, but it doesn't matter; they should have had some sort of temporary measure up anyway. Can't update Freshmeat? Big deal; keep up a little server that shuttles people off to the mirrors; there's a lot more to Freshmeat than its new-software service (I've been in rather bad need of its search feature, actually; I'm trying to upgrade to 2.2.1 and I need to get the right modutils but can't find it anywhere). Can't host gnome.org? Fine, but at least get one small page up listing the homepages of various software (I've been looking for gdm).
And so on and so forth and whatever. Really, RedHat shouldn't have done it like this. They should have expected Murphy's law to kick in at some time around noon so they couldn't get back up in time, and had a plan just in case that happened. But they didn't. Hopefully they'll learn from that little mistake.
Actually, that's hardly the copy-protection sceme a PSX uses (if that were true a PSX wouldn't be able to play audio CD's, which also lack this barcode).
VGS does not bypass copy-protection. Indeed, it takes pains to honor it. Some crackers have made "Modchip patches" which will prevent this, but VGS itself doesn't bypass any copy-protection schemes out there. I've tried it; it simply does not work that way.
What 'irks' me is that Connectix has probably used these free emulators as the basis for their development.
Very doubtful. While all the PSX emulators out there are zero-cost (except VGS), all of them are also closed-source. I doubt Connectix would be stupid enough to reverse-engineer those. Not that it would have done them much good; they're pretty much all written in x86 assembly (they'd have to be in order to get the speed even semi-acceptable), and that stuff is immensely painful to translate into something a PPC chip can use.
Rollovers and single clicks are the way.
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Yeah; until the inadvertent click which happens to us all every once in a while opens up some app which takes up the whole screen or at least has a huge window (Netscape's a good example), really slowing you down while you take care of the mess. Really, what's the big deal about a second click? It's not like it'll give you RSI, and it's more intuitive (one click to signal you want to act on something; the second is really just a shortcut for a more formal command).
Better yet, here's a fixed URL...
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Also, rumor has it that some companies are going to start marketing custom inserts (the way that case is put together this is very possible). Hey, you can customize the OS all you want... why not customize the case?
All the same, I think I'll wait a day or two for the inevitable 2.2.1. Even if it doesn't come out, it'll take that long just to get into one of the servers; even the Slashdot Effect pales in comparison to what this is likely to be:)
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The Mach "microkernel" is SLOW. Get that through your head.
Yes, I have no doubt that the unoptimized, pre-prerelease of Mach that you used, if you've even ever used any Mach-based operating systems at all, is slow. Why not actually try using this one and see what its speed is now? If what I've heard is true Apple's done so much to the Mach code that you can hardly even call it Mach anymore.
Sure every OS has it's purpose and OS X will be easier to configure than Linux but it won't be faster, different needs, different OS's.
Please, try using an OS before you bash it, at least.
The point is, you shouldn't even have had to do that. Three months? A computer that takes three months to learn is unnecessarily hard to learn and use. Computers are meant to be tools, something you can pick up in a matter of days, if not hours. "Open computing for everyone," you know?
The only clue I had was the hair; that didn't look quite right.
But you know, while such realism might make CG-movies seem more real, it also takes away some of the charm. I'm sure that we've all seen "Toy Story" by now; tell me, would it have been the same if all the toys had looked any more realistic than they did? I think it would have.
Nonetheless, I'll be first in line to buy tickets to this movie. This is going to be cool...
That's funny. Explain, then, why I mapped control-click, option-click, and command-click to the three extra buttons on my Kensington Thinking Mouse.
Because you wanted to. I personally use double-click, control-click, and clock-lock on my Turbo Mouse.
Webserving with decent speed? Hosting multiple users? Logging in to a server securely via ssh using free software? Using a web-browser that isn't slower than molassas in January?
In order: Quid Pro Quo, FoolProof, NiftyTelnet (with the SSH modifications), Mozilla (hell, IE is almost respectable on the Mac; it's quite fast).
By the way, by "free software" did you mean free beer, or free speech? NiftyTelnet follows the free beet model, BetterTelnet (which has an SSH mod) follows free speech.
Where's my grep? My top? My w? My uptime?
Grep: Grapple. It's a straight port, but with a GUI.
Top: Please; I can name six different apps.
w/uptine: I can write you a script to get that sort of sunctionality in ten minutes. And there are several uptime-style apps out there anyway, so why bother with that?
Unless you are doing something you shouldn't, you aren't running OSX.
Not necessarily. It is possible to obtain beta copies from Apple, and legally, I might add. It's called the developer seeding program.
If OSX is vapor, please explain this to my computer which runs it. I've been trying to explain this to it for a long time, but it appears to be in denial and runs just fine.
That isn't a bad idea. MacOS has done something very similar to that one for years; I'm rather surprised Windoze didn't use it too. The Windows Registry is little more than a giant kludge ("giant" most definitely being the operative word). But then, so is most of the rest of the OS...
I don't see any death threats in that page.
But it's certainly a violation of privacy, and should be taken down if only for that reason. Come to think of it, how did they get those addresses, anyway, especially those of the patients? Those were likely found through illegal means; I don't know of any abortion clinics which give out that sort of info.
Now, it's true that all great empires eventually fall. MacOS peaked and declined. Microsoft is starting its eventual decline. Linux and MacOS appear to be both on the rise again (empires can come back after declining, after all). Eventually, both will fall when something better comes around; that's inevitable. Perhaps it'll be OSX, but it might be HURD, or some incarnation of BSD, or maybe M$ will surprise us all and come out with a respectable OS, or Be could somehow take the field in a serious way, or whatever; make no mistake it will happen. It's all a question of when, and what will replace it.
When was the last time you looked at the figured, my friend? That data is at least two years old. By all accounts it's approaching ten rather rapidly in the market I assume you're quoting: the retail market (seeing as that is the only market in which Mac market share has ever dropped that low).
I might also add that you use the inappropriate statistic of "the market." Which market do you mean? There's far more than one, after all. Do you mean business? Home? Education (where MacOS holds over sixty percent?) Content creation?
Not authorization. A license. You get that by studying law and passing tests. What's the matter with that? Same as a license to practice medicine.
However, software is meant to be an assistant. If it can pass the same type of tests which lawyers undergo, why should that be banned? That is, I believe, similar to how such software is already tested; questions like those on a bar exam are fed tothe software and the advice given by the software is evaluated.
I might add that non-software-based "do-it-yourself last will and testament kits" are available. These are perfectly legal, so why not software-based kits?
You know, Slashdot has a lot of clout, apparently. Perhaps we should put the Slashdot Effect to some good use. Ideas:
Well, it was a thought, anyway...
I remember reading that book as a child. Obviously I was destined for computer greatness even then :)
What about those other great technical manuals, Jack and the Device Tree and Goldilocks and the Three BSD's?
I've visited the school recently. Today most of those PowerMacs are gone. History, because of the Mac OS.
Doubtful. More likely because of M$ FUD, which plagues Mac and Linux alike (in fact, thanks to the fact that M$ doesn't really take Linux seriously yet, the linux community has been spared much of the FUD that's hit MacOS, and yes I do know how much FUD is heaped on both OS's on a daily basis).
I think overall Windows has a much better interface than Mac OS. And most people agree.
Most people where? Even among Windows users, every last person I've ever talked to about the issue has perferred the Mac interface hands-down. Even the Windows developers I've talked to (and I've talked to more than you might think) prefer MacOS almost unanimously, developing for Windoze only because that's where the money is.
Linux... well, I don't know about Linux. I use it myself, and admittedly you can get the interface to the point where it far exceeds Windows and approaches MacOS (after a great deal of hassle) but it still has more than a little work to do. The rest prefer some other operating system.
In other words, the music industry wants to cash in on this lyrics server. They cared nothing about their so-called "intellectual property" anyway; this does, I believe, fall under the category of fair use.
Time, perhaps, to start another server? Not with anything from Lyrics.ch; it'd be too risky. That means a lot of work, but hopefully someone's up to the task...
Crapple? Please. I'm a viscious Mac-defender and I've done better Apple insults than that. My girlfriend, who's by her own admission less of a techie than any of us (though she prefers Macs but due to circumstances beyond her control has to use a Win98 box) has done better than that.
/. use it before, though.
My personal favorite: "Lemon Computer." Never heard anyone on
True, but notice that it seems the only real competition has to be free anymore. Everything else is being pushed out. I think that says something.
The idea is unbelieveably cool. Maybe I'll try building a woodwn case sometime (the problem, of course, is ventilation). The site itself is most likely a hoax, but I do like the idea.
But whoever designed that Website should be shot.
It's true that it's daytime in several timezones all of the time.
However, you'd think that RedHat would at least have the sense not to move during the daytime in its own timezone.
This was really poor planning on RedHat's part. I doubt they expected to be down for this long, but it doesn't matter; they should have had some sort of temporary measure up anyway. Can't update Freshmeat? Big deal; keep up a little server that shuttles people off to the mirrors; there's a lot more to Freshmeat than its new-software service (I've been in rather bad need of its search feature, actually; I'm trying to upgrade to 2.2.1 and I need to get the right modutils but can't find it anywhere). Can't host gnome.org? Fine, but at least get one small page up listing the homepages of various software (I've been looking for gdm).
And so on and so forth and whatever. Really, RedHat shouldn't have done it like this. They should have expected Murphy's law to kick in at some time around noon so they couldn't get back up in time, and had a plan just in case that happened. But they didn't. Hopefully they'll learn from that little mistake.
Actually, that's hardly the copy-protection sceme a PSX uses (if that were true a PSX wouldn't be able to play audio CD's, which also lack this barcode).
VGS does not bypass copy-protection. Indeed, it takes pains to honor it. Some crackers have made "Modchip patches" which will prevent this, but VGS itself doesn't bypass any copy-protection schemes out there. I've tried it; it simply does not work that way.
What 'irks' me is that Connectix has probably used these free emulators as the basis for their development.
Very doubtful. While all the PSX emulators out there are zero-cost (except VGS), all of them are also closed-source. I doubt Connectix would be stupid enough to reverse-engineer those. Not that it would have done them much good; they're pretty much all written in x86 assembly (they'd have to be in order to get the speed even semi-acceptable), and that stuff is immensely painful to translate into something a PPC chip can use.
Yeah; until the inadvertent click which happens to us all every once in a while opens up some app which takes up the whole screen or at least has a huge window (Netscape's a good example), really slowing you down while you take care of the mess. Really, what's the big deal about a second click? It's not like it'll give you RSI, and it's more intuitive (one click to signal you want to act on something; the second is really just a shortcut for a more formal command).
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Also, rumor has it that some companies are going to start marketing custom inserts (the way that case is put together this is very possible). Hey, you can customize the OS all you want... why not customize the case?
All the same, I think I'll wait a day or two for the inevitable 2.2.1. Even if it doesn't come out, it'll take that long just to get into one of the servers; even the Slashdot Effect pales in comparison to what this is likely to be :)