Right, but one of the reasons people invest in US bonds is that they feel they are more stable than other investments.
The real questions is do they feel other investments are now better.
Generally speaking, they are not, considering economists are currently predicting that if the USA defaults, the whole global economy grinds to a halt...
so those other investments have a significant exposure.
"we all pick up the tab when they go to the emergency room."
You can also go to county services and pay on a sliding scale for your preventive medicine. I did that as a college student and while I worked a McJob. Getting an infected insect bite cleaned out, cauterized and the local anesthetic plus antibiotics cost me something like $3000, of which I paid $65. Still a better deal than the cost of the ER if I had waited a few more days to go there and had blood poisoning or gone septic.
The problem is people that don't do that end up in the emergency room.
Here, lets look at your "facts", which are really just half statements with commentary.
*** The fact is that the ACA (aka Obamacare) sets up exchanges for people to purchase insurance from private companies. The government is not providing the coverage -- the private sector is.
You left out the part about doing it with other people's money, aka Taxdollars.
*** And yet there's a hue and cry about "government-run healthcare." Guess what: it already exists, it's called the VA. Single-payer? That already exists too, it's called Medicare (probably Medicaid too.)
Forgetting to mention those are huge expensive boondoggles with very poor outcomes in the case of the VA.
***The main point is that medical-insurance coverage is now open to tens of millions of people who would not be able to purchase it otherwise.
Again, open, but at the cost of taxdollars, and for people that don't want the health insurance because they don't really need it, like young healthy adults.
Just before the weekend, the National Park Service informed charter boat captains in Florida that the Florida Bay was “closed” due to the shutdown. Until government funding is restored, the fishing boats are prohibited from taking anglers into 1,100 square-miles of open ocean. Fishing is also prohibited at Biscayne National Park during the shutdown.
The Park Service will also have rangers on duty to police the ban of access to an ocean. The government will probably use more personnel and spend more resources to attempt to close the ocean, than it would in its normal course of business.
and...
The Obama Administration is ordering hundreds of parks that sit on federal land to close amid the government shutdown — even though they don’t use any government funding.
Operators of Claude Moore Colonial Farm in Virginia, for example, say they were shocked when the National Park Service ordered their park be shut. That’s because it’s been 80% funded by a local non-profit for years, which agreed to take over 100% of the costs of the facility as of October 1. Still, the National Park Service spent taxpayer money to erect barricades around the park and evict everyone from the farm this week.
“We do not know why CMCF was barricaded from public access or why NPS police escorted staff and volunteers off the property right before a fundraising event on Monday. The National Park Service does not pay CMCFs employees, for its operations, maintenance, events or programs,” Claude Moore Colonial Farm Operations Manager Heather Bodin wrote in an email to FOX Business. “In our 32-year history of running the farm, through other government shutdowns, we have never had to close our doors before.”
The same is true for the more than 100 U.S. Forest Service campgrounds and day-use areas run by the Arizona-based company Recreation Resource Management.
But coup de grace is this one, kicking Vets out of the Memorial they paid for, in blood and money (the land was donated, but the memorial was built with private donations):
Via William Jacobson, NBC's affiliate in Washington, D.C. reports that police ordered tourists and Vietnam war veterans who were visiting the Vietnam Veterans Memorial Wall to leave the memorial at one point on Friday.
After one group of veterans went around the barricade, "the park ranger told them the wall was closed," NBC's Mark Seagraves reported. "Later another group of vets showed up and moved the barricades. At that point, the memorial filled with vets and tourists. That's when police came and moved everyone out."
I will glady go back to the level of control the government had AFTER the Civil War.
The world is different now, if a state was starting to get out of the "norm" considered by the rest of the country, information flow would correct the issue.
And the sort of Federal influence can be see with the Interstate system. Yes, it is great, keep it, fund it.
But the Federal Government attaches conditions like speed laws to the money. That is undue influence without representation. Pass a law if you want to force the speed limit, don't hold back dollars.
And I doubt AZ ever had the option to keep the Grand Canyon, it was declared a national forest preserve and a game preserve a decade before Arizona was even a state.
And yet, they have changed the implementation on their terms 17 times, mostly by Presidential fiat, not a change to the law.
One of the CRs would have removed some of the exemptions, resulting in MORE ACA not LESS.
They did not like that one either. The Demo's just don't like the fact that the minority can stand up to the majority when the majority won't compromise.
The Feds have refused. (What did the Feds do to close the GC? Fill it in?!)
Several boat launches in the Bozeman MT area, a huge trout fishing area.
The federal agency had specifically ordered park officials in Wisconsin to close doors on Kettle Moraine, Devil’s Lake and Interstate parks, as well as sections of Horicon Marsh — sections that were owned by the state, no less — but Wisconsin authorities shunned the demand.
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Right, but one of the reasons people invest in US bonds is that they feel they are more stable than other investments.
The real questions is do they feel other investments are now better.
Generally speaking, they are not, considering economists are currently predicting that if the USA defaults, the whole global economy grinds to a halt...
so those other investments have a significant exposure.
"we all pick up the tab when they go to the emergency room."
You can also go to county services and pay on a sliding scale for your preventive medicine. I did that as a college student and while I worked a McJob. Getting an infected insect bite cleaned out, cauterized and the local anesthetic plus antibiotics cost me something like $3000, of which I paid $65. Still a better deal than the cost of the ER if I had waited a few more days to go there and had blood poisoning or gone septic.
The problem is people that don't do that end up in the emergency room.
But I can choose not to have a car and not pay a penalty for it. (in fact, one might call it a bonus)
Where is my choice to opt out in the ACA without penalty?
Here, lets look at your "facts", which are really just half statements with commentary.
*** The fact is that the ACA (aka Obamacare) sets up exchanges for people to purchase insurance from private companies. The government is not providing the coverage -- the private sector is.
You left out the part about doing it with other people's money, aka Taxdollars.
*** And yet there's a hue and cry about "government-run healthcare." Guess what: it already exists, it's called the VA. Single-payer? That already exists too, it's called Medicare (probably Medicaid too.)
Forgetting to mention those are huge expensive boondoggles with very poor outcomes in the case of the VA.
***The main point is that medical-insurance coverage is now open to tens of millions of people who would not be able to purchase it otherwise.
Again, open, but at the cost of taxdollars, and for people that don't want the health insurance because they don't really need it, like young healthy adults.
Care to say anything with facts I can refute instead of Soros talking points?
This left wing screed brought you by George Soros.
We don't have a problem with that, because it is not the Koch Brothers.
It's not healthcare, it is healthcare INSURANCE.
You have not found, or paid for, the the healthcare yet.
Yeah, he has no idea how it works. You can't use shared resources for HIPPA/PHI data.
You build for peak, which is the open enrollment season. The rest of the time, yes, the systems just sit there.
Now you can do a private cloud, and oversubscribe during non-open enrollment periods.
Yep, an Uncle did that, used my aunt's name as she was female and a minority.
Then stuck her with the unpaid taxes and split for Belize.
That's Commander Cameltoe to you!
They are technically psychologists, as they can administer the medication themselves. =)
keeps getting stranger:
Shut down the Ocean!
Just before the weekend, the National Park Service informed charter boat captains in Florida that the Florida Bay was “closed” due to the shutdown. Until government funding is restored, the fishing boats are prohibited from taking anglers into 1,100 square-miles of open ocean. Fishing is also prohibited at Biscayne National Park during the shutdown.
The Park Service will also have rangers on duty to police the ban of access to an ocean. The government will probably use more personnel and spend more resources to attempt to close the ocean, than it would in its normal course of business.
and...
The Obama Administration is ordering hundreds of parks that sit on federal land to close amid the government shutdown — even though they don’t use any government funding.
Operators of Claude Moore Colonial Farm in Virginia, for example, say they were shocked when the National Park Service ordered their park be shut. That’s because it’s been 80% funded by a local non-profit for years, which agreed to take over 100% of the costs of the facility as of October 1. Still, the National Park Service spent taxpayer money to erect barricades around the park and evict everyone from the farm this week.
“We do not know why CMCF was barricaded from public access or why NPS police escorted staff and volunteers off the property right before a fundraising event on Monday. The National Park Service does not pay CMCFs employees, for its operations, maintenance, events or programs,” Claude Moore Colonial Farm Operations Manager Heather Bodin wrote in an email to FOX Business. “In our 32-year history of running the farm, through other government shutdowns, we have never had to close our doors before.”
The same is true for the more than 100 U.S. Forest Service campgrounds and day-use areas run by the Arizona-based company Recreation Resource Management.
But coup de grace is this one, kicking Vets out of the Memorial they paid for, in blood and money (the land was donated, but the memorial was built with private donations):
Via William Jacobson, NBC's affiliate in Washington, D.C. reports that police ordered tourists and Vietnam war veterans who were visiting the Vietnam Veterans Memorial Wall to leave the memorial at one point on Friday.
After one group of veterans went around the barricade, "the park ranger told them the wall was closed," NBC's Mark Seagraves reported. "Later another group of vets showed up and moved the barricades. At that point, the memorial filled with vets and tourists. That's when police came and moved everyone out."
No, not even then.
I will glady go back to the level of control the government had AFTER the Civil War.
The world is different now, if a state was starting to get out of the "norm" considered by the rest of the country, information flow would correct the issue.
And the sort of Federal influence can be see with the Interstate system. Yes, it is great, keep it, fund it.
But the Federal Government attaches conditions like speed laws to the money. That is undue influence without representation. Pass a law if you want to force the speed limit, don't hold back dollars.
The liability issue is BS. You can't sue the Federal Government unless they let you do so.
Redress would not apply here.
Right. That is why they blocked off the side of the road so you can't stop to look at Mt. Rushmore.
Pure partisanship:
https://twitter.com/diana_west_/status/386543998992519168/photo/1
And I doubt AZ ever had the option to keep the Grand Canyon, it was declared a national forest preserve and a game preserve a decade before Arizona was even a state.
Good thing no once decided that it could not be changed... unlike the sacred ACA.
And yet, they have changed the implementation on their terms 17 times, mostly by Presidential fiat, not a change to the law.
One of the CRs would have removed some of the exemptions, resulting in MORE ACA not LESS.
They did not like that one either. The Demo's just don't like the fact that the minority can stand up to the majority when the majority won't compromise.
It is called "Checks and Balances".
In this case, no balance? no checks!
It did not happen before we had a strong government, why would it happen if we reduced some of that strong government?
The United States of America is 50 sovereign states. They are supposed to be different as the needs of Arizona are different from New York.
The current strong Government is adding hegemony that should not be there. Let people vote with their feet!
B.S.
We have more than enough money coming in, they are still collecting taxes.
You pay the interest and principal, then what is left over can run the budget... you, know, like in the real world.
Yes, we are no longer citizens, but subjects who may or may not go on our land at the whim of the those who rule by our consent.
At least, that is the way it is supposed to work. Our land, our public servants, not the other way round.
AZ state offered to "reopen" the Grand Canyon.
The Feds have refused. (What did the Feds do to close the GC? Fill it in?!)
Several boat launches in the Bozeman MT area, a huge trout fishing area.
The federal agency had specifically ordered park officials in Wisconsin to close doors on Kettle Moraine, Devil’s Lake and Interstate parks, as well as sections of Horicon Marsh — sections that were owned by the state, no less — but Wisconsin authorities shunned the demand.
Look at the instuctions:
“The username is case sensitive. Choose a username that is 6-74 characters long and must contain a lowercase or capital letter, a number, or one of these symbols _.@/-.”
If I can use those, can I do this:
http://xkcd.com/327/
Exactly.
If you did not think load testing was a good idea before this....
well, you are pretty hopeless.
Tootsie rolls look like a turd.