You keep using that word, I don't think it means what you think it means.
"Inherently Unsafe" would mean that there is no way to write safe code, because your code would inheret the "unsafeness" from the language or compiler.
An example would be a bug in the compiler (or the headers) that ALWAYS allowed unauthorized access to the system if you were running code compiled with it.
Specifically, where there is a bug in a widely used library like, say, the SSL libs. ANY language that used it, even ADA (assuming it could, I don't know) would "inheret" the security bug, regardless of how good of code the programmer produced.
And you can't convince me that you can't write unsafe code in any language. I bet you could in ADA, all you would have to do is code an open socket that passed arguements without validation to a shell with root access.
Are you really telling me ADA is smart enough to keep you from doing something stupid like that? It might be harder or easier in a lanaguage, but that does not mean it could not be done. C and it's derivitives are easier to shoot yourself in the foot, I will grant you that.
First off, C and C++ are not inherently unsafe, it is just that programmers that can use them safely are rare. Take a look OpenBSD, they write safe C/++ code.
Second, there are at least 2 very safe OS's that adaquate protection from viruses. zOS and VMS are the two that come to mind. Both use secure memory models that prevent such stupidity.
You might think they are unusable, but taking into consideration your ignorance about C and C++, I am thinking it would be just you.
There are more OS's in the universe than Linux and Windows.
It can happen. I lost a drive in a raid5, and when it was rebuilding on a hot spare (I got six, one per SCSI bus) I got an unrecoverable read error on a sector containing the parity information.
Instant loss of a cluster of data. Would have happened on a Mirror set too, if the working mirror had the same problem.
This happened on DEC/Compaq/HP HSG80, a serious SAN controller, not some cheap internal or software raid.
We have about 30 or 40 pairs of these HSG's, spinning about 300TB, and this is the first time it has happened. In fact, it is the first time ANYONE on our team of 12 has seen it. Some of these guys have 20+ years of experence, so it is *very* rare.
While the world's resources could use the strain of a few hundred million fewer people
Yeah. Except that a few hundred million corpses have a significant impact on the environment itself.
Yes it's true, we are such pests that even killing ourselves off is likely to destroy the environment.
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Hey! we used to call it "Alviso by the Sea" when the tides were in.
Rubies of Eventide closed its doors in Feb, re-opening in July.
It is using a free-2-play model, with a server limit, with a $50 donation to get a unlimited account.
Prime time caps to 125 f2p's, no limit on gentry, hits the upper 100's to low 200's at times. As much as in the p2p days peak...
The response has been amazing, going from less than hundred previous hard core players, including me, to over 1000 players in 6 weeks.
No one is getting rich on it, it basically pays for itself, and some consulting fees for content and programming.
While it is a nice game, the graphics are a little aged.. but the game has been around 10 years, as MUD, as a 2d game, and now as the 3d version. The lore is very deep, well thought out, and the owners/devs LISTEN to the community and actually play the game, several hours a day even!
I played for a good 2 or 3 months with the owner of the game, on one of his alt accounts he did not advertise...
Recumbents have a problem with steep hills, the leaverage is all wrong. You have to press backwards against the seat to get the leaverage, rather than standing up over the pedals.
Can be done, but a stadard position cycle works better in this case.
Bents are great, a lot of people who can't ride a standard get to ride, so I love 'em.
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You keep using that word, I don't think it means what you think it means.
"Inherently Unsafe" would mean that there is no way to write safe code, because your code would inheret the "unsafeness" from the language or compiler.
An example would be a bug in the compiler (or the headers) that ALWAYS allowed unauthorized access to the system if you were running code compiled with it.
Specifically, where there is a bug in a widely used library like, say, the SSL libs. ANY language that used it, even ADA (assuming it could, I don't know) would "inheret" the security bug, regardless of how good of code the programmer produced.
And you can't convince me that you can't write unsafe code in any language. I bet you could in ADA, all you would have to do is code an open socket that passed arguements without validation to a shell with root access.
Are you really telling me ADA is smart enough to keep you from doing something stupid like that? It might be harder or easier in a lanaguage, but that does not mean it could not be done. C and it's derivitives are easier to shoot yourself in the foot, I will grant you that.
First off, C and C++ are not inherently unsafe, it is just that programmers that can use them safely are rare. Take a look OpenBSD, they write safe C/++ code.
Second, there are at least 2 very safe OS's that adaquate protection from viruses. zOS and VMS are the two that come to mind. Both use secure memory models that prevent such stupidity.
You might think they are unusable, but taking into consideration your ignorance about C and C++, I am thinking it would be just you.
There are more OS's in the universe than Linux and Windows.
Oh no, always chooser the Greater of Evils when you have a chance.
Shop Smart, Shop Cthulu-Mart.
It can happen. I lost a drive in a raid5, and when it was rebuilding on a hot spare (I got six, one per SCSI bus) I got an unrecoverable read error on a sector containing the parity information.
Instant loss of a cluster of data. Would have happened on a Mirror set too, if the working mirror had the same problem.
This happened on DEC/Compaq/HP HSG80, a serious SAN controller, not some cheap internal or software raid.
We have about 30 or 40 pairs of these HSG's, spinning about 300TB, and this is the first time it has happened. In fact, it is the first time ANYONE on our team of 12 has seen it. Some of these guys have 20+ years of experence, so it is *very* rare.
Hey mikey!
Jim got the 1280's up and running, going into production next week...
Yep, $1 million in so called "dead" equipement going live in a week and a half...
So long as her boobies jiggle when she does it, I could care less....
Cold and Prickly.
The opposite of a Warm Fuzzy is a Cold Prickely.
See here:
http://www.claudesteiner.com/fuzzy.htm
Which is why the BOOMSTICK is all important.
Last thing the Jedi will hear is...
"Say hello to the 21st century!"
Try dodging THAT Mr. Fancypants!
I can't believe I am feeding a flamewar by comparing Army of Darkness to Reveng of th Sith...
You mean like... say...
RMS?
"I will teach that pasty nordic not to say GNU/Linux!"
I would use M$ as an example, but they have no technical ablity whatsoever
It's better than that... they will all be anime sytle school girls in skirts...
Or Natalie Portman. Your pick.
That's all I got say about that.
Nope can't do it. =)
Those giant gas clouds got a Baryon enima?
1.) Richard Stallman.
2.) Richard Stallman.
3.) Richard Stallman.
4.) Richard Stallman.
While the world's resources could use the strain of a few hundred million fewer people
Yeah. Except that a few hundred million corpses have a significant impact on the environment itself.
Yes it's true, we are such pests that even killing ourselves off is likely to destroy the environment.
Hey! we used to call it "Alviso by the Sea" when the tides were in.
Checkout www.eventide.net.
They are doing exactly that.
Client is free, play is free, they get donations.
It is working quite nicely.
Disclaimer: I am an active memember of the ROE community, I may be a bit biased =)
Take a look at www.eventide.net.
Rubies of Eventide closed its doors in Feb, re-opening in July.
It is using a free-2-play model, with a server limit, with a $50 donation to get a unlimited account.
Prime time caps to 125 f2p's, no limit on gentry, hits the upper 100's to low 200's at times. As much as in the p2p days peak...
The response has been amazing, going from less than hundred previous hard core players, including me, to over 1000 players in 6 weeks.
No one is getting rich on it, it basically pays for itself, and some consulting fees for content and programming.
While it is a nice game, the graphics are a little aged.. but the game has been around 10 years, as MUD, as a 2d game, and now as the 3d version. The lore is very deep, well thought out, and the owners/devs LISTEN to the community and actually play the game, several hours a day even!
I played for a good 2 or 3 months with the owner of the game, on one of his alt accounts he did not advertise...
To shutdown Rush Limbaugh, Bill O'Rielly and Michael Savage!
OH NO! The 'copters are back!
You get virtual contusions of meander...
Project management and outsourcing.
Recumbents have a problem with steep hills, the leaverage is all wrong. You have to press backwards against the seat to get the leaverage, rather than standing up over the pedals.
Can be done, but a stadard position cycle works better in this case.
Bents are great, a lot of people who can't ride a standard get to ride, so I love 'em.
35 songs is enough for the entire Cheryl Crow collection.
That's all he needs.
Lances has only one thing on it: Cheryl Crow.
Cuz that is who is warming the bed after the race.
I don't live in a perfect world, I am a poor Solaris admin.
but:
"When the disk array has a hardware failure the Cluster goes down."
Not if you have shadow sets, and possibly only one app would go down, or a database. Or even a node.
NOT the whole cluster. VMS disks will sit in mount verify until you get it back on line. Certianly not a uptime losing event if one system goes down.
"When a node goes down, there are issues"
Yeah, but not a reset of the uptime, which is what we are talking about here.
Again, it is a matter of definition, "Uptimes" in VMS are cluster driven, not node driven.
At least internally:
I have a screenie of VMS booting into an Itanium based cluster from May 30th, 2003.
Cant post it, because the "*"'s from the display trigger lameness filter...
Ironic.
Regression testing is not done yet, so it is only in hands of developers, and some customers for testing, like us.
There is a rumour that they have an AMD port as well...