well *I* am over 30. As are most generation-x folks that started this whole computer boom thing. I mean I did run a BBS when I was in high school, cost a lot more than a website these days. boy you young wippersnappers have no idea what it was like in the old days;)
Personally even with my 1.5MB/s DSL I do not consider that a feature I'm looking for.
Number of reasons
A) The size of the file to get the quality of Video/Audio that I want. Basically I need a DVD worth of quality at a minimum, which is 5 - 10 GBs of space. I like the extras, trailers, etc. So to get this, I'd need to 'want to watch a movie' maybe a day after I decide to get the movie.
B) I'm a collector of sorts. I've got about 700 DVDs that I've impulse bought since 1996 or so. Granted I've only purchased about 700 CDs and a few hundred songs via iTunes. With that many DVDs and the associated data on them, if I wanted to have them for 'instant gratification' I'd need roughly 4.2TBs of storage. That doesn't account for even more stuff coming out over the next x number of years.
Granted newer encoding tech such as MPEG-4 vs. MPEG-2 might help with the storage requirements, but then I'd need to have the movie companies re-encode things like 'Better off Dead' or '*Batteries not included' which about 20 people probably would want, and then I'd need to re-spend money to get them that way.
DVDs have introduced a new phenomenon to the movie industry. People willing to buy them.
I bought 9 video tapes. The first six star trek movies & the original Star Wars trilogy (not that re-done versoin, the THX version)
I'm sure the RIAA is quaking in their boots hearing this. I keep waiting for them to start to go after MP3 manufacturers because we all know if you use an MP3 player you steal music.
Which had me really interested in the interview with Steve Jobs previously referenced here on slashdot was that music execs thought that 'ripping a CD' equated to theft, not to converting it to MP3s.
To be that out of touch with consumers of your product just helps me feel that market pressures, not lawsuits or 'civil disobediance' of supporting Kazaa and other illegal methods of distribution will slowly convert the morons.
That or we could all hope they die of old age because to not understand what Ripping is they have to be 100+ and never used a computer in their life. Hell my Grandpa new what the internet was and he was 91 when he joked about me finding him a girlfriend online after I met my wife that way. He drove road graters for a living, and never touched a computer.
I am always amazed at the way most of you hop up and down all over it stamping your feet and claiming FOUL without really taking a second to look at the facts.
1) The Patents in question were those generated with Windows 95, Windows 95 OSR2, Windows 98 and beyond.
2) The Patents in question are for long file name support, not for FAT which appeared way back in 1983.
I know it's fun to microsoft bash, but until recently digital cameras did not support FAT32 which is what most of these patents cover. FAT32 support started showing up once flash memory cards >1GB. There are new Microdrives and the like that newer digital cameras will require FAT32 to read.
To do so they must use either an already patented method (FAT32) and make it backwards compatible with other systems to address the space on said memory card. Last time I checked you'd need some code on said camera that in this case is patented, and thus a license must be paid to the patent owner should said owner wish to charge.
Microsoft does, rightfully so, and should make a little bit of money for making everyones life easier.
ext2 or whatever isn't gong to solve the problem. When's the last time you were able to walk up to a stock Windows running on a box sold from Best Buy for regular computer users and slap an ext2/ext3 file system device and it just work? With FAT32 you can.
Plus $250k for a license fee on something a vendor could sell millions of (digicams) isn't that much in the grand scheme of things. If 1 Mil units are sold it's $4 a unit.
I remember discussing this in Astronomy class years ago. We all immediately did the 'it'll cook people' reaction and we were told that unless the microwave is pulsed at a specific frequency there will be no cooking of the masses a la gremlins anytime soon.
Since the microwave beams that would transmit this energy wouldn't be pulsed like your regular microwave we should have a death ray from the moon cooking everything.
...wait, no, all 40GB of files are still on there. Of course they're all legally ripped from the CDs I purchased since I was a kid that are all stored in a nice box in my TV room...
Here is an article explaining low-k dielectric. I believe this is a shipping product on the Power4/4+ based systems and it is in the EXA chipset on the x365/x440/x445/x450 Intel servers, and the Apple G3 and G5. The xSeries products even have little copper BB's in the grill of the system to symbolize that they use copper based technology.
I'm not a big fan of this idea. Personally I have used iTunes on my Powerbook since it came out and to me for my needs it is the most flexible system.
I can purchase a song, it downloads to my machine, and it syncs up to my iPod. Sure this is an all one vendor solution, but it all works and I like it.
I can burn CDs that then fit in my CD player in my car and I've listened to several repeatedly and it works just fine for my needs. Now that it's on Windows I've been showing people iTunes at work, including the folks I know that 'trade' mp3s in an effort to educate them on the somewhat easy way to do it.
I don't like the subscription 'try all you want' models because as past experiences have shown when someone changes that model for some reason, you're hosed. Right now I believe Apple will hang on to this for a long time because it's been too successfull for it to fail unless the licensing is changed.
I've already seen songs I've purchased disappear off iTunes but I can still play them. (Good Charlotte, the Click being one of them)
Don't know, I'm just happy with iTunes now, and have no desire to try something differently.
Well I'll need to find something new to switch to by April then.
Because based on licensing my two little servers will need to spend $349 each.
Gentoo is looking like the winner. Just not real keen on doing that right now. Is there a howtoo anywhere that would let me not format my big 120GB volume?
Oh yes, buy a bike and become a target for the road raged idiots driving cars that think 'how dare you drive on my road!'
here in raleigh we've recently had a genius radio station solicit caller on how to mow down 'them damn bicyclers' and then when brought to task for doing so made a 'public service announcement' on how to do it.
I thought this was a Panther fix and not a 10.* fix. Are we sure it's a 10.* fix? The way things read it was a new bug for Panther only when it was on the other mac sites a few days ago.
I'll second the clear channel thing. I had no idea how formulaic they were until I moved from KC to Raleigh, NC and after listening to a show suddenly discovered that Johnny Dare and Murphy were no more unique then the idiot they had on here.
Heck they even sounded alike.
That being said, even as a semi-super geek I'd rather listen to a local station that might talk about what is happening around the area vs. my own making. Plus I'd not find out about some new music now and then.
Yeah, unfortunately I bought Norton because of such an experience with it way in the past. Back in '94 - '97 I was an Apple repair guy. Worked on Powerbook 100s, Duo 200s, and 500s. Also on LC,s Power Mac 6100/7100/8100 and a few of the 7200 / 7500s and the Powerbook 5300s before I 'got promoted' to working on Netware and Windows NT.
Those were nice machines, just never could afford one. Now I can, so I got one:)
I ordered the Family Upgrade kit to update my 12" Powerbook and my wife's iMac.
To me the update seems worth it, but then in my previous life I bought Windows 95, Windows 98, and then Windows XP. What were they but new features and no bug fixes?
I also bought RH Linux 6.2, 7.1, 7.2, 7.3, 8.0 and 9.0. I thought I'd support the distro I used and then they go and quit selling it. Don't see myself buying the Enterprise versions anytime soon.
Haven't got it yet so I can't comment on the review, it was a general decent review and didn't pick too many nits like some of the 'tech' reviews do. They get obsessed about one thing and miss everything else.
All in all, a decent wet the appitite type of review. Hopefully it'll show up before the weekend so I can see what happens when I try an upgrade my two machines. I'm interested to see how badly it trashes Norton Systemworks on the iMac. biggest mistake of my life to buy that.
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well *I* am over 30. As are most generation-x folks that started this whole computer boom thing. I mean I did run a BBS when I was in high school, cost a lot more than a website these days. boy you young wippersnappers have no idea what it was like in the old days ;)
Personally even with my 1.5MB/s DSL I do not consider that a feature I'm looking for.
Number of reasons
A) The size of the file to get the quality of Video/Audio that I want. Basically I need a DVD worth of quality at a minimum, which is 5 - 10 GBs of space. I like the extras, trailers, etc. So to get this, I'd need to 'want to watch a movie' maybe a day after I decide to get the movie.
B) I'm a collector of sorts. I've got about 700 DVDs that I've impulse bought since 1996 or so. Granted I've only purchased about 700 CDs and a few hundred songs via iTunes. With that many DVDs and the associated data on them, if I wanted to have them for 'instant gratification' I'd need roughly 4.2TBs of storage. That doesn't account for even more stuff coming out over the next x number of years.
Granted newer encoding tech such as MPEG-4 vs. MPEG-2 might help with the storage requirements, but then I'd need to have the movie companies re-encode things like 'Better off Dead' or '*Batteries not included' which about 20 people probably would want, and then I'd need to re-spend money to get them that way.
DVDs have introduced a new phenomenon to the movie industry. People willing to buy them.
I bought 9 video tapes. The first six star trek movies & the original Star Wars trilogy (not that re-done versoin, the THX version)
Just my $0.02.
I'm sure the RIAA is quaking in their boots hearing this. I keep waiting for them to start to go after MP3 manufacturers because we all know if you use an MP3 player you steal music.
Which had me really interested in the interview with Steve Jobs previously referenced here on slashdot was that music execs thought that 'ripping a CD' equated to theft, not to converting it to MP3s.
To be that out of touch with consumers of your product just helps me feel that market pressures, not lawsuits or 'civil disobediance' of supporting Kazaa and other illegal methods of distribution will slowly convert the morons.
That or we could all hope they die of old age because to not understand what Ripping is they have to be 100+ and never used a computer in their life. Hell my Grandpa new what the internet was and he was 91 when he joked about me finding him a girlfriend online after I met my wife that way. He drove road graters for a living, and never touched a computer.
yeah not enough zeros when I did the math, buffer overrun in my head
I am always amazed at the way most of you hop up and down all over it stamping your feet and claiming FOUL without really taking a second to look at the facts.
1) The Patents in question were those generated with Windows 95, Windows 95 OSR2, Windows 98 and beyond.
2) The Patents in question are for long file name support, not for FAT which appeared way back in 1983.
I know it's fun to microsoft bash, but until recently digital cameras did not support FAT32 which is what most of these patents cover. FAT32 support started showing up once flash memory cards >1GB. There are new Microdrives and the like that newer digital cameras will require FAT32 to read.
To do so they must use either an already patented method (FAT32) and make it backwards compatible with other systems to address the space on said memory card. Last time I checked you'd need some code on said camera that in this case is patented, and thus a license must be paid to the patent owner should said owner wish to charge.
Microsoft does, rightfully so, and should make a little bit of money for making everyones life easier.
ext2 or whatever isn't gong to solve the problem. When's the last time you were able to walk up to a stock Windows running on a box sold from Best Buy for regular computer users and slap an ext2/ext3 file system device and it just work? With FAT32 you can.
Plus $250k for a license fee on something a vendor could sell millions of (digicams) isn't that much in the grand scheme of things. If 1 Mil units are sold it's $4 a unit.
Orbital on "The Altogether Now' has a song that is Doctor ? which is a nice techno version
Well, if it was a Bently the answer would be 'because I can afford to do so'.
Last time I heard bentlys hoods were sealed shut
I remember discussing this in Astronomy class years ago. We all immediately did the 'it'll cook people' reaction and we were told that unless the microwave is pulsed at a specific frequency there will be no cooking of the masses a la gremlins anytime soon.
Since the microwave beams that would transmit this energy wouldn't be pulsed like your regular microwave we should have a death ray from the moon cooking everything.
Yes, yes you are.
...wait, no, all 40GB of files are still on there. Of course they're all legally ripped from the CDs I purchased since I was a kid that are all stored in a nice box in my TV room...
Here is an article explaining low-k dielectric. I believe this is a shipping product on the Power4/4+ based systems and it is in the EXA chipset on the x365/x440/x445/x450 Intel servers, and the Apple G3 and G5. The xSeries products even have little copper BB's in the grill of the system to symbolize that they use copper based technology.
I'm not a big fan of this idea. Personally I have used iTunes on my Powerbook since it came out and to me for my needs it is the most flexible system.
I can purchase a song, it downloads to my machine, and it syncs up to my iPod. Sure this is an all one vendor solution, but it all works and I like it.
I can burn CDs that then fit in my CD player in my car and I've listened to several repeatedly and it works just fine for my needs. Now that it's on Windows I've been showing people iTunes at work, including the folks I know that 'trade' mp3s in an effort to educate them on the somewhat easy way to do it.
I don't like the subscription 'try all you want' models because as past experiences have shown when someone changes that model for some reason, you're hosed. Right now I believe Apple will hang on to this for a long time because it's been too successfull for it to fail unless the licensing is changed.
I've already seen songs I've purchased disappear off iTunes but I can still play them. (Good Charlotte, the Click being one of them)
Don't know, I'm just happy with iTunes now, and have no desire to try something differently.
Well I'll need to find something new to switch to by April then.
Because based on licensing my two little servers will need to spend $349 each.
Gentoo is looking like the winner. Just not real keen on doing that right now. Is there a howtoo anywhere that would let me not format my big 120GB volume?
Oh yes, buy a bike and become a target for the road raged idiots driving cars that think 'how dare you drive on my road!'
here in raleigh we've recently had a genius radio station solicit caller on how to mow down 'them damn bicyclers' and then when brought to task for doing so made a 'public service announcement' on how to do it.
What's wrong with Cyveillance?
Being that I"ve used Spamcop now for 3 or 4 years, just curious.
I for one welcome our new Fox News overloards...
(sorry, thought it was perfect for this topic)
Yes, it is. But the first PowerPC 970 IBM Based systems will be out sometime in 1Q 04, the G5 is now.
I thought this was a Panther fix and not a 10.* fix. Are we sure it's a 10.* fix? The way things read it was a new bug for Panther only when it was on the other mac sites a few days ago.
That was them claiming it had more colors than it did, not that the reviewers got machines with better screens.
I'll second the clear channel thing. I had no idea how formulaic they were until I moved from KC to Raleigh, NC and after listening to a show suddenly discovered that Johnny Dare and Murphy were no more unique then the idiot they had on here.
Heck they even sounded alike.
That being said, even as a semi-super geek I'd rather listen to a local station that might talk about what is happening around the area vs. my own making. Plus I'd not find out about some new music now and then.
Yeah, unfortunately I bought Norton because of such an experience with it way in the past. Back in '94 - '97 I was an Apple repair guy. Worked on Powerbook 100s, Duo 200s, and 500s. Also on LC,s Power Mac 6100/7100/8100 and a few of the 7200 / 7500s and the Powerbook 5300s before I 'got promoted' to working on Netware and Windows NT.
:)
Those were nice machines, just never could afford one. Now I can, so I got one
I ordered the Family Upgrade kit to update my 12" Powerbook and my wife's iMac.
To me the update seems worth it, but then in my previous life I bought Windows 95, Windows 98, and then Windows XP. What were they but new features and no bug fixes?
I also bought RH Linux 6.2, 7.1, 7.2, 7.3, 8.0 and 9.0. I thought I'd support the distro I used and then they go and quit selling it. Don't see myself buying the Enterprise versions anytime soon.
Haven't got it yet so I can't comment on the review, it was a general decent review and didn't pick too many nits like some of the 'tech' reviews do. They get obsessed about one thing and miss everything else.
All in all, a decent wet the appitite type of review. Hopefully it'll show up before the weekend so I can see what happens when I try an upgrade my two machines. I'm interested to see how badly it trashes Norton Systemworks on the iMac. biggest mistake of my life to buy that.
Because you bought the Powerbook G4 12" in March.
So in other words, buy an eMac & a ?
The system knows because the parity bit is checked and if there was an error it's not in parity, causing a parity error and rebooting