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Dice, if you're trying to cull anti-Beta comments, at least pretend some honesty and do it transparently.
In a nutshell, "Latinate" means Latin-like or resembling Latin; "derived" in that case is more along the lines of "inspired by". Romance languages aren't like Latin; they are Latin after two millenniums. Thus, for the languages, using "Romance" [common in English language] or "Neo-Latin" [common in Romance languages] is preferred.
On the other hand, it's fairly acceptable to use "Latinate" for features borrowed from Latin - both in English and in those [as re-borrowings].
"Basic" and "bunch" are keywords in my post. I'm not saying you should learn until proficiency - just the basic. And I'm not saying that it would compensate to learn just one - but a bunch. I think it's worth, Latin has a nice propaedeutic effect.
"Romance languages". Not "Latinate languages"[sic].
Learning Latin because you want to learn one Romance language is counter-productive, but if you want to learn a bunch of them, basic Latin is really helpful. It helps you to understand the languages' quirks better - and to predict them. Simple examples: *Italian: words like uovo-uova that change gender when plural: check for Latin 2nd declension neuter words. *French: it's far easier to put circumflexes if you remember which words had an S in Latin, as hôpitalhospital or maîtremagister. *Portuguese: wondering if you should use Ç or S? Check if Latin had a hard C (always/k/) or an S (always/s/) in that position. Portuguese won't help you with Italian plurals, Italian won't help you to put French circumflexes and French will barely give you orthographic clues for Portuguese. And, even without being a Romance language, it also helps a lot with English, due to the amount of borrowings the language did from Latin and Norman [itself a Romance language].
It's also worth mentioning that Classical Latin (the non-church one) has a HUGE literature, and translations in general usually suck.
TL;DR: "Latin should be left to the priests" my ass. [Even because they can't pronounce Latin for shit. "ky-loom", not "cheh-lo", paedicatores stulti.]
debian won't work right in a VM. didn't even make it onto one of my machines.
Nor Windows, at least in my machine+VBox setup...
suse doesn't support colemak? really? veto. also never made it onto real hardware.
This can be either the distro's or the HW manufacturer's fault... by the way you mentioned it, I guess it's Suse's.
About your later paragraph: swap "MS" with "Debian Foundation" and "Ubuntu" with "Windows 7" and you'll have pretty much my personal experience with Windows. (And I didn't even try to change Windows' default desktop environment - it looks like KDE, uhhhh. hahaha)
Most Argies don't give a fuck about those islands. However, they're a convenient excuse from Argentinian government to shift focus from whatever current problem the country has to the same old nationalist babble.
It's like that in the whole Latin America, by the way... just with different "targets".
Guys. The maximum fine isn't US$ 500 000. It is US$ 500 000 per day. So, for the first day they pay 50k, 100k for the second, 150k for the third... and there it goes.
This fine amounts to roughly 180M annually. If low or high, it's up for debate.
The decline is solely from Chrome becoming mainstream and Google advertising it on their site, where lots of mom and pop Firefox users probably "accidentally" switch to Chrome because of some warning or advertisement from Google.
I agree with it being due to the marketing Google does, but not with the medium. I think it's more like those fucking toolbars that comes bundled in the installation of other software.
NASA is quite known, and NSA has been in the news for quite some time; one with technical skill enough to deface a website would at least have a good enough education to know the difference between both, regardless of English knowledge.
I bet the defacer was either thinking "if I can't deface NSA, I'll deface NASA to send my message regardless" or drunk.
There's something missing in this discussion - in the event people manage to double/triple human lifetime, this would affect first and foremost developed countries, and those don't have an overpopulation problem.
Also, I'd toast Debian for being prudent and offering unliberated software separately, in defiance of the FSF jihadis.
Agreed. Debian plays as "the last sane man" [okay, distro] regarding that: they realize that open source is freer than closed source, but closed source is still freer than no program; installing by default only free but allowing the users [if they wish to do so] install non-free is the least restrictive thing they could do.
Well, no wonders Firefox support it - accordingly to Wikipedia, APNG was created by two guys at Mozilla.
For other browsers... well, this kind of thing usually steamrolls (more use > more users > more browser support > more use), so the beginning is slow, but the animation tools in the article may help to boost it a bit.
Cows, not so much. I can't think of too many situations where a cow would be best suited as a work animal.
Cows are a bit better than horses for some field work where resistance and tenacity matter more than speed, as grain mills or plowing field.
You won't see them as much in this kind of work today just because they lost the competition to machines.
I guess that the taboo against horses is less motivated by usefulness and more for empathy - the same happens with those freaking useless long-eared rats (rabbits - and yes, they taste as good as horses). It isn't that strong either - Switzerland, Japan, and some isolated places in South America with heavy German immigration often eat horse meat, and not a single eyebrow is raised against.
One would need a goddamn GOOD AI to catch filter-avoiding content... I don't think we'll see language processing reaching this point in our lifetimes, even theoretically. [I may be wrong, however.]
So, let's pretend for a moment that banning foul language isn't completely ridiculous, but a worthy goal from Russian government. There's still a practical problem... how?
First of all, the censorsh... (oops, "child protection") department will need to monitor consistently all sites in the Russosphere, and maybe some in the Anglosphere. Some of those won't reside in Russian Federation, and RF's gov asking the responsible countries' govs for info about the criminal swearing scum will at least result in a "lolshto" (lol, what?) from the other govs.
Second, does Mizulina really think this is feasible? How? Censors? Well, good luck, they would need all Russian tech-savvy population for that... (exactly the ones they want to control).
Filters? Hell, it's hard to make those for Latin-based languages, but almost impossible for Cyrillic-based ones! Let's say you ban a swear word in Russian (I would use examples, but/. filters all Cyrillic letters). They would need to filter the word itself, anny misspell (intentional or not), different transliterations to Latin, Volapük encoding (a leetspeak-like transliteration using Latin letters that resemble Cyrillic ones), plus, any tactics the internet use regardless of language to avoid filters (like writing pr0n, FML, phuck...).
To show the infeasibility of that, I used a three-letters swearing, khuj ("dick") as example. Just on top of my mind, I got twelve variations - you can bet any Russian native can bring a dozen more. (Here: http://pastebin.com/bcH2bg2S ).
Third and last: if they do manage to make a comprehensible list of swear words with all the variations, just imagine the amount of false positives on an international scale - like Russian gov annoying Brazilian one because someone wrote "curva" in a fucking blog! (just "curve" in Portuguese, but an acceptable transliteration for kurva ["whore"] in Russian).
Frankly... I'm not worried with this censorship being implemented at all, but rather, the intentions behind it.
Militarization weakens democracy, a weakened democracy disregards personal freedoms, threatened personal freedoms make people feel unsafe, people feeling unsafe support militarization, and the cycle goes that way, snowballing, until the military realize they're stronger than the government and BOOM! A coup happens. (It's what happened with most Latin American countries, by the way.)
So, if you still want to see things improved, you shouldn't wait it to get worse, else it'll be too late.
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You know the drill.
A somewhat old comment gets from +4 Insightful to -1 Offtopic after being moderated Flamebait. In the matter of seconds.
The messages about comment moderation pop up in the panel, then disappear after a F5.
"Not suspicious at all."
Dice, if you're trying to cull anti-Beta comments, at least pretend some honesty and do it transparently.
Time to go to SoylentNews.
If you're unsatisfied with our complains, then leave. That's simple.
I don't think you got what I meant...
And regarding your sig: that's the idea, polluting it until they stop pushing for the beta. Ah, don't you like us whining? Shut up and go.
Meanwhile, please bring this fight over to reddit where the Slashdot moderators have no influence:
I'm calling some /g/entlemen instead.
...if a star can emerge from Slashdot Beta. That shit is a black hole of user interface hell.
In a nutshell, "Latinate" means Latin-like or resembling Latin; "derived" in that case is more along the lines of "inspired by". Romance languages aren't like Latin; they are Latin after two millenniums. Thus, for the languages, using "Romance" [common in English language] or "Neo-Latin" [common in Romance languages] is preferred.
On the other hand, it's fairly acceptable to use "Latinate" for features borrowed from Latin - both in English and in those [as re-borrowings].
"Basic" and "bunch" are keywords in my post. I'm not saying you should learn until proficiency - just the basic. And I'm not saying that it would compensate to learn just one - but a bunch. I think it's worth, Latin has a nice propaedeutic effect.
Romani ite domum
Someone will keep his balls...
"Romance languages". Not "Latinate languages"[sic].
Learning Latin because you want to learn one Romance language is counter-productive, but if you want to learn a bunch of them, basic Latin is really helpful. It helps you to understand the languages' quirks better - and to predict them. Simple examples: /k/) or an S (always /s/) in that position.
*Italian: words like uovo-uova that change gender when plural: check for Latin 2nd declension neuter words.
*French: it's far easier to put circumflexes if you remember which words had an S in Latin, as hôpitalhospital or maîtremagister.
*Portuguese: wondering if you should use Ç or S? Check if Latin had a hard C (always
Portuguese won't help you with Italian plurals, Italian won't help you to put French circumflexes and French will barely give you orthographic clues for Portuguese. And, even without being a Romance language, it also helps a lot with English, due to the amount of borrowings the language did from Latin and Norman [itself a Romance language].
It's also worth mentioning that Classical Latin (the non-church one) has a HUGE literature, and translations in general usually suck.
TL;DR: "Latin should be left to the priests" my ass.
[Even because they can't pronounce Latin for shit. "ky-loom", not "cheh-lo", paedicatores stulti.]
debian won't work right in a VM. didn't even make it onto one of my machines.
Nor Windows, at least in my machine+VBox setup...
suse doesn't support colemak? really? veto. also never made it onto real hardware.
This can be either the distro's or the HW manufacturer's fault... by the way you mentioned it, I guess it's Suse's.
About your later paragraph: swap "MS" with "Debian Foundation" and "Ubuntu" with "Windows 7" and you'll have pretty much my personal experience with Windows.
(And I didn't even try to change Windows' default desktop environment - it looks like KDE, uhhhh. hahaha)
I never did understand that.
I do.
Most Argies don't give a fuck about those islands. However, they're a convenient excuse from Argentinian government to shift focus from whatever current problem the country has to the same old nationalist babble.
It's like that in the whole Latin America, by the way... just with different "targets".
Guys. The maximum fine isn't US$ 500 000. It is US$ 500 000 per day. So, for the first day they pay 50k, 100k for the second, 150k for the third... and there it goes.
This fine amounts to roughly 180M annually. If low or high, it's up for debate.
The decline is solely from Chrome becoming mainstream and Google advertising it on their site, where lots of mom and pop Firefox users probably "accidentally" switch to Chrome because of some warning or advertisement from Google.
I agree with it being due to the marketing Google does, but not with the medium. I think it's more like those fucking toolbars that comes bundled in the installation of other software.
They do. All the govs do.
NASA is quite known, and NSA has been in the news for quite some time; one with technical skill enough to deface a website would at least have a good enough education to know the difference between both, regardless of English knowledge.
I bet the defacer was either thinking "if I can't deface NSA, I'll deface NASA to send my message regardless" or drunk.
There's something missing in this discussion - in the event people manage to double/triple human lifetime, this would affect first and foremost developed countries, and those don't have an overpopulation problem.
Also, I'd toast Debian for being prudent and offering unliberated software separately, in defiance of the FSF jihadis.
Agreed. Debian plays as "the last sane man" [okay, distro] regarding that: they realize that open source is freer than closed source, but closed source is still freer than no program; installing by default only free but allowing the users [if they wish to do so] install non-free is the least restrictive thing they could do.
Happy birthday, Debian!
Well, no wonders Firefox support it - accordingly to Wikipedia, APNG was created by two guys at Mozilla.
For other browsers... well, this kind of thing usually steamrolls (more use > more users > more browser support > more use), so the beginning is slow, but the animation tools in the article may help to boost it a bit.
Cows, not so much. I can't think of too many situations where a cow would be best suited as a work animal.
Cows are a bit better than horses for some field work where resistance and tenacity matter more than speed, as grain mills or plowing field.
You won't see them as much in this kind of work today just because they lost the competition to machines.
I guess that the taboo against horses is less motivated by usefulness and more for empathy - the same happens with those freaking useless long-eared rats (rabbits - and yes, they taste as good as horses). It isn't that strong either - Switzerland, Japan, and some isolated places in South America with heavy German immigration often eat horse meat, and not a single eyebrow is raised against.
One would need a goddamn GOOD AI to catch filter-avoiding content... I don't think we'll see language processing reaching this point in our lifetimes, even theoretically. [I may be wrong, however.]
So, let's pretend for a moment that banning foul language isn't completely ridiculous, but a worthy goal from Russian government. There's still a practical problem... how?
First of all, the censorsh... (oops, "child protection") department will need to monitor consistently all sites in the Russosphere, and maybe some in the Anglosphere. Some of those won't reside in Russian Federation, and RF's gov asking the responsible countries' govs for info about the criminal swearing scum will at least result in a "lolshto" (lol, what?) from the other govs.
Second, does Mizulina really think this is feasible? How? Censors? Well, good luck, they would need all Russian tech-savvy population for that... (exactly the ones they want to control).
Filters? Hell, it's hard to make those for Latin-based languages, but almost impossible for Cyrillic-based ones! Let's say you ban a swear word in Russian (I would use examples, but /. filters all Cyrillic letters). They would need to filter the word itself, anny misspell (intentional or not), different transliterations to Latin, Volapük encoding (a leetspeak-like transliteration using Latin letters that resemble Cyrillic ones), plus, any tactics the internet use regardless of language to avoid filters (like writing pr0n, FML, phuck...).
To show the infeasibility of that, I used a three-letters swearing, khuj ("dick") as example. Just on top of my mind, I got twelve variations - you can bet any Russian native can bring a dozen more. (Here: http://pastebin.com/bcH2bg2S ).
Third and last: if they do manage to make a comprehensible list of swear words with all the variations, just imagine the amount of false positives on an international scale - like Russian gov annoying Brazilian one because someone wrote "curva" in a fucking blog! (just "curve" in Portuguese, but an acceptable transliteration for kurva ["whore"] in Russian).
Frankly... I'm not worried with this censorship being implemented at all, but rather, the intentions behind it.
You can be sure that a lot of countries would give a hand to USA in this case...
Before things improve, they will get worse.
I strongly disagree.
Militarization weakens democracy, a weakened democracy disregards personal freedoms, threatened personal freedoms make people feel unsafe, people feeling unsafe support militarization, and the cycle goes that way, snowballing, until the military realize they're stronger than the government and BOOM! A coup happens. (It's what happened with most Latin American countries, by the way.)
So, if you still want to see things improved, you shouldn't wait it to get worse, else it'll be too late.
Evilicious butter cookies.