Granted I abandoned religion years ago... I don't remember such a line in the Bible, the Quran, Torrah, Book of Mormon or any other for that matter... any chance you could point me to that passage?
If we are going to discuss lightsabers... one must point out the film Your Lightsaber and You over on Atom Films. To quote it's blurb: There's more to being a Jedi than mind tricks and meditation. You also have to know the proper method of handling your light saber safely! Tune into this informative industrial film on the finer points of opening up a proverbial can of whup-ass with your light saber.
It doesn't matter if the customer can tell the two apart, when they are told explicitly what they are buying and a realtor knowingly gives them something else... it is generally regarded as fraud or theft by deception.
You do not think that there is a market for illicit copies of Windows for unscrupulous retailers? You go down to Bob's PC down the street to buy a PC and his prices are pretty reasonable in large part (unbeknownst to you, but beknownst to Bob) due to his not using genuine copies of Windows on his machines, helping him to save a few bucks on each BOM.
Chances are, one of Bob's customers may not know that their copy of Windows is not legit. This is not unlike system builders who throw in a CPU of one speed and overclock it to another and claim that it is the ladder, just to get a few bucks extra while defrauding the customer.
The wonderful thing about free as in freedom, is that it requires the choice. If you do not have the choice to not be free, then you can never truly be free.
GPLed code is ultimately about forcing all users to abide by certain rules, with little choice (yes, you can choose not to use the code, but that is really your only choice. With BSDed code, you have that choice, to do with it as you please, to let others or not, it's all up to you, as it should be, without someone else forcing you to do their will.
FTP.exe still contains the string regarding portions being copyrighted by the California Board of Regents... but why would anyone go after Microsoft for using BSD licensed code in their products? Last I checked, the BSD licenses was more 'free' than the GPL, permitting someone to keep their changes to themselves and be free to uses it how they see fit, provided they give props, which does and has happened.
If you want more Jim Grey, head on over to Channel 9 to see a couple of sit downs with him. Personally I found both Part 1 & Part 2 are both quite interesting and thought provoking.
Would this be a bad time to mention that large portions of Windows NT were designed and implemented by many of the same people who built VMS? In fact, many of the data structures used by both systems are oddly similar, even identical in made cases.
Lets not forget that OS/2 was jointly developed by IBM and Microsoft and no doubt Microsoft still has significant rights to large portions of the code base. I find it very unlikely that they would let IBM release the code even if IBM wanted to.
The problem with such a plan is nations that are part of OPEC are full members, not some company mind you, but the government itself. Regulation of the oil industry would be far harder as it would directly involve the host nations who tend to like to do what they want on their own soil where they directly make the laws.
Say what you want about Microsoft and the stability/reliability/security of their software, but they have many full time (and paid) people devoted exclusively to testing and trying to break their software so that it can be fixed.
Convicted Monopolist? There is no such thing. Microsoft was convicted of anti-trust violations, quite different. Remember, being/having a monopoly isn't a crime.
Hardly, even without the "you stole IP" accusation regarding SCO IP, there is still the patent issues which have yet to be examined in much depth. You know, the 283 some patents that are used in the Linux kernel, some of which are owned by Microsoft.
#2 also is moot as Microsoft did not publicly assist SCO in their campaign, and what money they may have invested (directly or indirectly) is a drop in the bucket to them.
It amazes me though, you claiming that Microsoft's fate is now sealed. How often do we hear such claims against Microsoft, and yet they keep getting bigger and bigger, making more and more money and expanding into new territories? All the while, we year that 2005 is the year of Linux on the desktop (as apparently was 2004, 2003, 2002, 2001, 2000 and 1999 supposed to be as well).
Yes, Linux is gaining, but not at the expense of Microsoft as you seem to be hoping. There is such entrenchment with regards to Microsoft products that it is doubtful that any single court case is going to hurt them. Remember the anti-trust conviction? They brushed that off, as they have with many other lost cases, just as they have done with this.
Funny thing though... you seem to be making the assumption that Microsoft is some evil monolithic company with a single will... I suggest you examine the ecosystem of companies and products that their platform and products have enabled. Yes, a similar ecosystem exists with regards to Linux and OSS, but no where near the same level.
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That sounds awful ominous and near impossible... perhaps instead the line should be 'all known javascript vulnerabilities'?
Didn't it have something to do with there being 5 commandments on each of the tablets? Or are you referring to the mythical 3rd tablet?
God given right to make backups?
Granted I abandoned religion years ago... I don't remember such a line in the Bible, the Quran, Torrah, Book of Mormon or any other for that matter... any chance you could point me to that passage?
Here come the C&D's!!!
If we are going to discuss lightsabers... one must point out the film Your Lightsaber and You over on Atom Films. To quote it's blurb: There's more to being a Jedi than mind tricks and meditation. You also have to know the proper method of handling your light saber safely! Tune into this informative industrial film on the finer points of opening up a proverbial can of whup-ass with your light saber.
It doesn't matter if the customer can tell the two apart, when they are told explicitly what they are buying and a realtor knowingly gives them something else... it is generally regarded as fraud or theft by deception.
You do not think that there is a market for illicit copies of Windows for unscrupulous retailers? You go down to Bob's PC down the street to buy a PC and his prices are pretty reasonable in large part (unbeknownst to you, but beknownst to Bob) due to his not using genuine copies of Windows on his machines, helping him to save a few bucks on each BOM.
Chances are, one of Bob's customers may not know that their copy of Windows is not legit. This is not unlike system builders who throw in a CPU of one speed and overclock it to another and claim that it is the ladder, just to get a few bucks extra while defrauding the customer.
Part of the value is access to official upgrades and enhancements, many of which now require a genuine copy of Windows XP (or higher) to get/install.
The wonderful thing about free as in freedom, is that it requires the choice. If you do not have the choice to not be free, then you can never truly be free.
GPLed code is ultimately about forcing all users to abide by certain rules, with little choice (yes, you can choose not to use the code, but that is really your only choice. With BSDed code, you have that choice, to do with it as you please, to let others or not, it's all up to you, as it should be, without someone else forcing you to do their will.
FTP.exe still contains the string regarding portions being copyrighted by the California Board of Regents... but why would anyone go after Microsoft for using BSD licensed code in their products? Last I checked, the BSD licenses was more 'free' than the GPL, permitting someone to keep their changes to themselves and be free to uses it how they see fit, provided they give props, which does and has happened.
If you want more Jim Grey, head on over to Channel 9 to see a couple of sit downs with him. Personally I found both Part 1 & Part 2 are both quite interesting and thought provoking.
Be careful with mentioning design patterns like Singletons, you may lose most of the spaghetti code programmers.
I for one welcome our new blue handed overlords!
No, NT was based off of the skills and backgrounds of a bunch of smart engineers who came from DEC who made VMS.
/. which as we all know are not always the most accurate.
Your comment makes it quite clear you know nothing more than what is said in comments on
Would this be a bad time to mention that large portions of Windows NT were designed and implemented by many of the same people who built VMS? In fact, many of the data structures used by both systems are oddly similar, even identical in made cases.
Lets not forget that OS/2 was jointly developed by IBM and Microsoft and no doubt Microsoft still has significant rights to large portions of the code base. I find it very unlikely that they would let IBM release the code even if IBM wanted to.
The problem with such a plan is nations that are part of OPEC are full members, not some company mind you, but the government itself. Regulation of the oil industry would be far harder as it would directly involve the host nations who tend to like to do what they want on their own soil where they directly make the laws.
I too have seen this issue... even when on a single PC (ie view doc in Word, then in OO).
Exactly.
Say what you want about Microsoft and the stability/reliability/security of their software, but they have many full time (and paid) people devoted exclusively to testing and trying to break their software so that it can be fixed.
Convicted Monopolist? There is no such thing. Microsoft was convicted of anti-trust violations, quite different. Remember, being/having a monopoly isn't a crime.
What is this... 'social responsibility' you speak of?
Rather than blaming greed... did you ever consider that maybe they did what was best for their shareholders and employees?
Hardly, even without the "you stole IP" accusation regarding SCO IP, there is still the patent issues which have yet to be examined in much depth. You know, the 283 some patents that are used in the Linux kernel, some of which are owned by Microsoft.
#2 also is moot as Microsoft did not publicly assist SCO in their campaign, and what money they may have invested (directly or indirectly) is a drop in the bucket to them.
It amazes me though, you claiming that Microsoft's fate is now sealed. How often do we hear such claims against Microsoft, and yet they keep getting bigger and bigger, making more and more money and expanding into new territories? All the while, we year that 2005 is the year of Linux on the desktop (as apparently was 2004, 2003, 2002, 2001, 2000 and 1999 supposed to be as well).
Yes, Linux is gaining, but not at the expense of Microsoft as you seem to be hoping. There is such entrenchment with regards to Microsoft products that it is doubtful that any single court case is going to hurt them. Remember the anti-trust conviction? They brushed that off, as they have with many other lost cases, just as they have done with this.
Funny thing though... you seem to be making the assumption that Microsoft is some evil monolithic company with a single will... I suggest you examine the ecosystem of companies and products that their platform and products have enabled. Yes, a similar ecosystem exists with regards to Linux and OSS, but no where near the same level.
What heavy losses to Microsoft?
Good luck getting a work visa for Sealand, or even an entry-visa for that matter, they tend not to like to let lots of people in.
See: Principality Notice 017/02: Visits to the Principality for details.
Sad that it took 6 AC's to point that out.