Don't see Star Wars darnit. All of these movies are helping the MPAA to take away computers. Don't see or rent or buy movies. (Or at least minimize the number you see/rent/buy.)
I totally agree. That's why you need to join my organization: Americans Against American Associations' Acronyms Appended by "Association of America" Association of America (AAAAAAAAAA).
Motto: "We kick complete and total ass and r00l over all of those other loser associations."
OTOH the kinds of people who own these things are wealthier and more hooked into what's going on in the world. The sort of people who contribute money to politicians. I think SonicBlue should make it perfectly clear to their customers what's going on, and who's making this happen. They should be sure to add an explination that copyright isn't a right, and can be changed by politicians with enough motivation. Hint. Hint.
That's a good idea. I think A MSMage would be really hard to advance. A RealistCynic would be pretty easy to advance, though. There are lots of people with jobs here, and they enjoy shooting down naive views of the world.
This is a good idea. I've been bouncing around level 50 for a while, and I've decided to start another character.
I think I'll choose the Troll class. I've heard that Trolls are really hard to advance, but if you're willing to put a lot of effort into it, you can make progress. The main thing is that you have to have your ObviousSarcasm skill waaay up first, or else people won't notice it when you post, and you'll get level drained repeatedly.
IMO, the KarmaWhore class is too easy to advance, and doesn't really get any of the interesting powers. I could sit here all day and wait for new articles, then post the "Here's the text of the article in case the server gets/.ed" posts that always get a few levels worth of experience points. However, that gets old and it isn't really challenging. It's all about timing and cut-n-paste. Boring. This class can be scripted too easily.
Although the GNU/Linux/Zealot class is probably the easiest to advance, it's painful that you have to forget how to program as you advance up through the levels. That's why I don't want to play this class. I also don't like the fact that this class can almost be played as a 'bot like ELIZA. You just have to parse the article title and text, then generate a response. Again, it's too easy to script this class, and I like a challenge.
Maybe they've overdone it and should start respecting their customers.
Or maybe they should use increasing Draconian IP laws in the US to bring the US market to its knees, then use the power of the US government to get trade sanctions in totally unrelated areas against countries that choose to use FS instead of MS, thereby extending their monopoly to the rest of the world.
I don't make a distinction between movie companies. Disney says what the rest of them are thinking. I would rather that people not see any movies or buy any music at all. I recommend a boycott of Starwars because 10 million geeks might make a noticeable difference. Especially since geeks are repeat customers (at least I was seeing the other ones several times each in the theatres).
What does Disney have in common with LucasArts? NOTHING!
What can you expect Disney to do if you boycott an unrelated company? NOTHING!
How much thought did you put into your post? NONE!
No really. I have thought this out. I've decided that I want to minimize how much I spend on movies and DVDs and videos. I haven't given them money in about 6 months and I intend to continue. I pick starwars because it's the one thing that people want to see. I actually want people to boycott ALL movies and music (or at least minimize their purchases). All the dumbshits who complain about the DMCA/SSSCA/CBPDTA and then go out and go see the movie are the stupid ones. I just want to back up my bitching with (a little) action. It won't matter, but I'll feel better about myself.
Boycott Star Wars. There are no other movies where a lack of geek support can make a big difference. If we boycott Star Wars, they might actually notice.
That's so right. The really sad part is that I think the states would be happy if MS would just let the OEMs remove the IE shortcut from the desktop when they set up their customers' computers. It isn't even about removing IE, it's about not having IE staring you in the face and preventing any other browser from appearing anywhere. If MS wants to use IE for internal stuff so that it pops up when used automatically, who cares? Just let Dell and Gateway put Netscape on the desktop and remove IE from the desktop if they want. All of this bitching is over default icons on the desktop.:P
This is a good thing. That is the most trivial kind of "access control" possible, so it will be interesting if this is actually where this copyright fight is going.
Rofl, you are so clueless. You're advocating giving the government and big business veto power over what information I can send and receive? This will apply to all communications networks since they're all about moving bits. Are you nuts? Traffic cops? Monitoring? This is of course an obvious part of the plan for total control over everything, but shit you don't have to go advocating it.
What about encryption? Will I have the right to encryption like the big boys will have? No, probably not under this idea or else the idea is useless. So I get fucked over and different rules are applied to me because I'm not rich.
How will this "traffic cop" thing work? Think for a minute about what happens when the government and companies have the ability to check and approve of everything you send or receive. What makes you think that they will use this power wisely? Why would they allow dissenting views to get out? How would anyone know about the censorship? Maybe they will track all files with the word "censorship" in them and stop them so noone will ever know who's being censored. That's a fucking great idea. Any sort of mandated filtering and interception of data is a BAD idea. You are advocating the destruction of the Internet (and of all other forms of digital private communication). There is no way to use technology to effectively stop the flow of bits without destroying freedom.
You are talking about destroying freedom and privacy to preserve copyright. This is a simple quiz and this is how you should present it to the congresswoman.
Freedom
Copyright
Pick One.
The thing is that the people who support the CBPDTA are actually correct. The only way they can continue to protect copyright is to do the very things that they want done in the bill. It probably doesn't go far enough because it doesn't advocate a house-to-house search for all old unprotected equipment, and it probably still allows people to make personal backup copies in certain circumstances. The only way to protect copyright is to destroy freedom. I challenge you to give the Congresswoman the short quiz I presented above, ask her if she had to choose between freedom and copyright, which would she pick. If she can't answer that, then she isn't willing or able to deal with this yet. Then, ask her to find out more about it until she understands that the choice between freedom and copyright is the correct choice. You can only protect one strongly. If you don't get it, then you need to go learn more about what computers can do, until you realize that unless computers are destroyed or turned into toasters with screens, copyright can't be protected.
But he's been in the fold. Has he been an asshole? Did I miss something?
He seems to have a reasoned and long outlook on things. He helped to open the Internet up for commercial use, and now he's helping to make sure it doesn't get buried under commercial control. It's nice to see someone who believes in a balanced instead of falling into a hardline ideological position of either "all information must be free" or "all your information are belong to us".
The three sphere approach and the software suite of collaboration, interaction, content, content management, web services, and wrapped in the continuum of campaign management through business analytics is the formula for success and significant value creation.
Am I caught in a time warp? Didn't this kind of shit go out of style last millennium?
write into an EULA that by downloading this program you agree to uninstall Windows and install Linux? Sweet.
But, probably not legal. Do they even think about this shit before they write these things up?
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As many other people have probably told you, don't say anything. Posting on an !corporate website like/. with your story may make it harder to get anywhere.
It should be mentioned. When you consider how much money people spend on "interactive digital devices" every year (which is almost anything that gets plugged in or runs on batteries) and how important they are it is a big deal. When an industry wants to slow down technological progress and take control of huge numbers of things you interact with every day, it is a big deal. I also think that these kinds of controls are what the government would like to have to fight its war on terrorism. The same control you use to stop people from copying things illegal is the control you use to stop people from conspiring to commit terrorism.
Also, to everyone who pointed out that B2.0 is ownd by AOLTW, you got me. My bad. I missed that.
Now let's see an article like this in TIME magazine. Something more mainstream.
Not gonna happen. TIME is part of AOL/Time/Warner, a giant MEDIA company that makes its money by generating copyrights. Err generating stuff that's protected by copyright.
This is the biggest problem we face when fighting this. There aren't any giant media corporations that are independent of the content industry.
FOX likes the law and makes TV shows and movies. Vivendi owns CBS (I think) and makes records and movies (Universal). Disney owns ABC, and GE owns NBC. Finally AOLTW owns CNN. The only possibility I could see is NBC owned by GE which makes machines, not strings of bits.
So, the problem is that the government has let the media concentrate itself into a few giant corporations and they are filtering this news. This is something that most people would hate if they knew about it, but most people don't read and if they do, it's one of the major magazines or websites that are already owned by the giant media conglomerates. That means that most people will not be able to find out about this. I wonder if people here paid for a PSA about this whether the networks would even run it.:P
To me this is proof that there isn't the major media companies aren't watching out for the "little guy" because if they were, this would have been page-1, top-of-the-hour news in every corner of the media world. Especially since this kind of law will cause loss of privacy and give corporations an extreme amount of control over peoples' lives.
So, don't ever expect the "media" to take our side in this and actually report this stuff. The "media" is just another arm of the "content industry". Also, it isn't even that I want them to take our side in this. All they have to do is accurately report it, and even if they're putting a positive spin on the bill, people will figure out how bad it is. So, the only option they have is to never report on this at all. Hence, it will not happen. Remember that, and spread the word yourself.
That's surprising. Perhaps someone should document this phenomenon of not being able to throw huge amounts of people at a complex software project late in its development with any expectation of fixing it quickly.:P
Ya know, I think that they would have been better off if they had spent the last two months assigning everyone a book report on The Mythical Man-Month and then realizing that this change will have to be a permanent course correction instead of a short-term fix.
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Don't see Star Wars darnit. All of these movies are helping the MPAA to take away computers. Don't see or rent or buy movies. (Or at least minimize the number you see/rent/buy.)
Hey look, there's the ball over there ---->.
:P
And here's timothy over here
But wait, who's on the ball?
I dunno, but it sure ain't timothy...cuz this was posted 2 days ago.
I totally agree. That's why you need to join my organization: Americans Against American Associations' Acronyms Appended by "Association of America" Association of America (AAAAAAAAAA).
Motto: "We kick complete and total ass and r00l over all of those other loser associations."
OTOH the kinds of people who own these things are wealthier and more hooked into what's going on in the world. The sort of people who contribute money to politicians. I think SonicBlue should make it perfectly clear to their customers what's going on, and who's making this happen. They should be sure to add an explination that copyright isn't a right, and can be changed by politicians with enough motivation. Hint. Hint.
That's a good idea. I think A MSMage would be really hard to advance. A RealistCynic would be pretty easy to advance, though. There are lots of people with jobs here, and they enjoy shooting down naive views of the world.
This is a good idea. I've been bouncing around level 50 for a while, and I've decided to start another character.
/.ed" posts that always get a few levels worth of experience points. However, that gets old and it isn't really challenging. It's all about timing and cut-n-paste. Boring. This class can be scripted too easily.
I think I'll choose the Troll class. I've heard that Trolls are really hard to advance, but if you're willing to put a lot of effort into it, you can make progress. The main thing is that you have to have your ObviousSarcasm skill waaay up first, or else people won't notice it when you post, and you'll get level drained repeatedly.
IMO, the KarmaWhore class is too easy to advance, and doesn't really get any of the interesting powers. I could sit here all day and wait for new articles, then post the "Here's the text of the article in case the server gets
Although the GNU/Linux/Zealot class is probably the easiest to advance, it's painful that you have to forget how to program as you advance up through the levels. That's why I don't want to play this class. I also don't like the fact that this class can almost be played as a 'bot like ELIZA. You just have to parse the article title and text, then generate a response. Again, it's too easy to script this class, and I like a challenge.
Maybe they've overdone it and should start respecting their customers.
Or maybe they should use increasing Draconian IP laws in the US to bring the US market to its knees, then use the power of the US government to get trade sanctions in totally unrelated areas against countries that choose to use FS instead of MS, thereby extending their monopoly to the rest of the world.
Which seems more likely?
I don't make a distinction between movie companies. Disney says what the rest of them are thinking. I would rather that people not see any movies or buy any music at all. I recommend a boycott of Starwars because 10 million geeks might make a noticeable difference. Especially since geeks are repeat customers (at least I was seeing the other ones several times each in the theatres).
What does Disney have in common with LucasArts? NOTHING!
What can you expect Disney to do if you boycott an unrelated company? NOTHING!
How much thought did you put into your post? NONE!
No really. I have thought this out. I've decided that I want to minimize how much I spend on movies and DVDs and videos. I haven't given them money in about 6 months and I intend to continue. I pick starwars because it's the one thing that people want to see. I actually want people to boycott ALL movies and music (or at least minimize their purchases). All the dumbshits who complain about the DMCA/SSSCA/CBPDTA and then go out and go see the movie are the stupid ones. I just want to back up my bitching with (a little) action. It won't matter, but I'll feel better about myself.
If people get this taken away, people may wake up to how stupid pure thought patents are. But then again, probably not.
I keep burning karma writing this, but...
Boycott Star Wars. There are no other movies where a lack of geek support can make a big difference. If we boycott Star Wars, they might actually notice.
That's so right. The really sad part is that I think the states would be happy if MS would just let the OEMs remove the IE shortcut from the desktop when they set up their customers' computers. It isn't even about removing IE, it's about not having IE staring you in the face and preventing any other browser from appearing anywhere. If MS wants to use IE for internal stuff so that it pops up when used automatically, who cares? Just let Dell and Gateway put Netscape on the desktop and remove IE from the desktop if they want. All of this bitching is over default icons on the desktop. :P
On a bit of a serious note, IS there any performance degradation between KDE and GNOME?
I have found GNOME apps to be less responsive than KDE apps. I also find it easier to write in KDE than GNOME, so I'm probably biased. Dunno.
This is a good thing. That is the most trivial kind of "access control" possible, so it will be interesting if this is actually where this copyright fight is going.
Rofl, you are so clueless. You're advocating giving the government and big business veto power over what information I can send and receive? This will apply to all communications networks since they're all about moving bits. Are you nuts? Traffic cops? Monitoring? This is of course an obvious part of the plan for total control over everything, but shit you don't have to go advocating it.
What about encryption? Will I have the right to encryption like the big boys will have? No, probably not under this idea or else the idea is useless. So I get fucked over and different rules are applied to me because I'm not rich.
How will this "traffic cop" thing work? Think for a minute about what happens when the government and companies have the ability to check and approve of everything you send or receive. What makes you think that they will use this power wisely? Why would they allow dissenting views to get out? How would anyone know about the censorship? Maybe they will track all files with the word "censorship" in them and stop them so noone will ever know who's being censored. That's a fucking great idea. Any sort of mandated filtering and interception of data is a BAD idea. You are advocating the destruction of the Internet (and of all other forms of digital private communication). There is no way to use technology to effectively stop the flow of bits without destroying freedom.
You are talking about destroying freedom and privacy to preserve copyright. This is a simple quiz and this is how you should present it to the congresswoman.
Freedom
Copyright
Pick One.
The thing is that the people who support the CBPDTA are actually correct. The only way they can continue to protect copyright is to do the very things that they want done in the bill. It probably doesn't go far enough because it doesn't advocate a house-to-house search for all old unprotected equipment, and it probably still allows people to make personal backup copies in certain circumstances. The only way to protect copyright is to destroy freedom. I challenge you to give the Congresswoman the short quiz I presented above, ask her if she had to choose between freedom and copyright, which would she pick. If she can't answer that, then she isn't willing or able to deal with this yet. Then, ask her to find out more about it until she understands that the choice between freedom and copyright is the correct choice. You can only protect one strongly. If you don't get it, then you need to go learn more about what computers can do, until you realize that unless computers are destroyed or turned into toasters with screens, copyright can't be protected.
But he's been in the fold. Has he been an asshole? Did I miss something?
He seems to have a reasoned and long outlook on things. He helped to open the Internet up for commercial use, and now he's helping to make sure it doesn't get buried under commercial control. It's nice to see someone who believes in a balanced instead of falling into a hardline ideological position of either "all information must be free" or "all your information are belong to us".
The three sphere approach and the software suite of collaboration, interaction, content,
content management, web services, and wrapped in the continuum of campaign management through business analytics is the formula for success and significant value creation.
Am I caught in a time warp? Didn't this kind of shit go out of style last millennium?
You're just giving money to the MPAA so that they can take away computers. I know it's hard, but don't see this movie.
By saying:
You fire Bob or we will bankrupt you and send lots of people to jail.
write into an EULA that by downloading this program you agree to uninstall Windows and install Linux? Sweet.
But, probably not legal. Do they even think about this shit before they write these things up?
As many other people have probably told you, don't say anything. Posting on an !corporate website like /. with your story may make it harder to get anywhere.
It should be mentioned. When you consider how much money people spend on "interactive digital devices" every year (which is almost anything that gets plugged in or runs on batteries) and how important they are it is a big deal. When an industry wants to slow down technological progress and take control of huge numbers of things you interact with every day, it is a big deal. I also think that these kinds of controls are what the government would like to have to fight its war on terrorism. The same control you use to stop people from copying things illegal is the control you use to stop people from conspiring to commit terrorism.
Also, to everyone who pointed out that B2.0 is ownd by AOLTW, you got me. My bad. I missed that.
Hmm..Ok you got me there. I wonder if it will show up in the "major" shows and magazines sometime.
Now let's see an article like this in TIME magazine. Something more mainstream.
:P
Not gonna happen. TIME is part of AOL/Time/Warner, a giant MEDIA company that makes its money by generating copyrights. Err generating stuff that's protected by copyright.
This is the biggest problem we face when fighting this. There aren't any giant media corporations that are independent of the content industry.
FOX likes the law and makes TV shows and movies. Vivendi owns CBS (I think) and makes records and movies (Universal). Disney owns ABC, and GE owns NBC. Finally AOLTW owns CNN. The only possibility I could see is NBC owned by GE which makes machines, not strings of bits.
So, the problem is that the government has let the media concentrate itself into a few giant corporations and they are filtering this news. This is something that most people would hate if they knew about it, but most people don't read and if they do, it's one of the major magazines or websites that are already owned by the giant media conglomerates. That means that most people will not be able to find out about this. I wonder if people here paid for a PSA about this whether the networks would even run it.
To me this is proof that there isn't the major media companies aren't watching out for the "little guy" because if they were, this would have been page-1, top-of-the-hour news in every corner of the media world. Especially since this kind of law will cause loss of privacy and give corporations an extreme amount of control over peoples' lives.
So, don't ever expect the "media" to take our side in this and actually report this stuff. The "media" is just another arm of the "content industry". Also, it isn't even that I want them to take our side in this. All they have to do is accurately report it, and even if they're putting a positive spin on the bill, people will figure out how bad it is. So, the only option they have is to never report on this at all. Hence, it will not happen. Remember that, and spread the word yourself.
That's surprising. Perhaps someone should document this phenomenon of not being able to throw huge amounts of people at a complex software project late in its development with any expectation of fixing it quickly. :P
Ya know, I think that they would have been better off if they had spent the last two months assigning everyone a book report on The Mythical Man-Month and then realizing that this change will have to be a permanent course correction instead of a short-term fix.