Of course, just what the hell IS their business model? They've been around for about damn as long as X windows has, but do they actually sell anything? heh
slashdot, out of touch...
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TrollTech to IPO?
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This news has been going around since the dotbomb era.
Oh, and TrollTech doesn't really belong in the Linux category, either. They've been around since before Linus, let alone before Linux.
Much like few people used the Commodore 128 in 128 mode because it emulated a 64, and few people wrote OS/2 native software because it could run DOS/Windows software, without winelib, wine would be seriously discouraging people from making native apps. winelib, from what i hear, makes making native apps easier. and that's where wine could actually HELP the state of Linux native apps. but, still, not too likely.
let's see. It says it's been running for 16 hrs 51 minutes 43 seconds.
All I see is static in the image. So, I'm gonna say.. since by the time the image is done displaying, Duke Nuke'Em Forever will be out... That must be it. Oh, and maybe Prey.
Automatic upgrade from RH7 to RH8 nuked my system. Automatic upgrade rom RH8 to RH9 nuked my system. A hacked up form of making apt-get work in RH9 got me a successful upgrade from RH9 to FC1. Automatic upgrade from FC1 to FC2 nuked my system. Automatic upgrade from FC2 to FC3 nuked my system.
That was for one of my two boxes that ran Linux, that one running for about 5 years.
The other one was a Debian unstable, that "ran" for about 3 years, but I had to discontinue doing regular updates on it because it would take 12-16 hours to process the updates regularly.
So, I'd only do system updates every couple of weeks when I'd be going away for a weekend. OF course, I'd always come back, and the auto-upgrade that wasn't supposed to ask any questions, and just do the things it was supposed to do was inevitably, and always, sitting there waiting for my input after about the 10th file.
The CDs that won't play in certain computers are examples of either defective discs or defective drives.
Region locks are good, too. Now that movie that was not LEGAL to own in Japan (example pulled out of nowhere) suddenly is rather difficult to PLAY in Japan, as well.
And public libraries often have books on cassette.
I don't own a cassette player. Should the library be obligated to loan me one of those too?
I don't think a day goes by anymore that Slashdot's discussions don't make me ill anymore... huge huge HUGE majority of people who think that they deserve the right to play anything they want on Linux.
You want to play it in Linux? You go and write something that will handle the media format. 'k?
(oh, and there are programs that will legitimately play WMA files in Linux, and if the DRM restriction of the library's media only restricts you to being able to decode it for 3 weeks, rather than telling you you can't play it in anything that's not Windows.... )
Your username on Slashdot is especially interesting. You seem to think that it would be better if all the media were shared communely.
See, everyone here is completely missing the point. Not just a little off, but TOTALLY MISSING. (at least in the first 40 comments, that I read before I clicked reply)
Going to the library and borrowing a book that belongs to the library does not transfer you ownership of that book. This is why they call it BORROW. That doesn't change if it's a book on cassette, or a book on CD, or a book on any other kind of media.
Unless you (collective) can suggest a better alternative than "per unit ownership", which I highly doubt you (collective) will be able to do, that's the way it is going to work. You don't go to a library to permanently take their book. And it's not the scarcity of it that makes it need to be returned. They own one, they can loan one. The library could make a zillion copies on their copier, but they DON'T because they've only paid for the number that are in the library. And what do you pay to get a book from your local library? or a magazine? or a CD? or whatever?
Everywhere I've been the use of the library was free for city residents, and a once a year minimal charge for non-city residents. In fact, where I'm at now, the entire resources of the library are free, including internet access (though they do give you a fifteen minute time limit if there are other people waiting to use the machines). The only thing I've had to pay for there is paper for the copier/printer.
So, who's got a better idea for how to sell a book, a CD, a movie, a whatever, than on a per-unit basis?
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Of course, just what the hell IS their business model? They've been around for about damn as long as X windows has, but do they actually sell anything? heh
This news has been going around since the dotbomb era.
Oh, and TrollTech doesn't really belong in the Linux category, either. They've been around since before Linus, let alone before Linux.
I like to view slashdot through the "Nostalgia" Opera CSS mode. It makes it all look like a beloved Commodore 64.
apparently slashcode is so incredibly bad spaghetti that it has taken this long to actually work with it. blargh.
looks like it's slashdotted. odd.
Works fine in Opera, by the way.
Does that mean it comes out in 2012? Or that it come out in the year 12,000?
Or that it came out in the year 12?
I'm so confused!
Great marketing?
I have yet to see a MySQL tv ad...
or any other ad anywhere else either.
Much like few people used the Commodore 128 in 128 mode because it emulated a 64, and few people wrote OS/2 native software because it could run DOS/Windows software, without winelib, wine would be seriously discouraging people from making native apps. winelib, from what i hear, makes making native apps easier. and that's where wine could actually HELP the state of Linux native apps. but, still, not too likely.
oooh... fark was right, the slashdot people really do have a thing against them apparently.
let's see. It says it's been running for 16 hrs 51 minutes 43 seconds.
All I see is static in the image. So, I'm gonna say.. since by the time the image is done displaying, Duke Nuke'Em Forever will be out... That must be it. Oh, and maybe Prey.
Why does every move of a CMS interest Slashdot?
Isn't Slashdot a CMS?
Boggle.
....it's not news, it's slashdot.org!
I'm not sure why this is a +3 Funny... It was totally serious.
The general public believes that "Public Domain" means "anything that I can copy" .. so, therefore, what does it really matter?
It seems like programmers are the only people who care one bit.
Automatic upgrade from RH7 to RH8 nuked my system. Automatic upgrade rom RH8 to RH9 nuked my system. A hacked up form of making apt-get work in RH9 got me a successful upgrade from RH9 to FC1. Automatic upgrade from FC1 to FC2 nuked my system. Automatic upgrade from FC2 to FC3 nuked my system.
That was for one of my two boxes that ran Linux, that one running for about 5 years.
The other one was a Debian unstable, that "ran" for about 3 years, but I had to discontinue doing regular updates on it because it would take 12-16 hours to process the updates regularly.
So, I'd only do system updates every couple of weeks when I'd be going away for a weekend. OF course, I'd always come back, and the auto-upgrade that wasn't supposed to ask any questions, and just do the things it was supposed to do was inevitably, and always, sitting there waiting for my input after about the 10th file.
....78% of all statistics are completely made up garbage.
What's the entry level now for a post to make it to slashdot?
self-sufficient linux user for 4 years doing Linux from Scratch, and you don't know how to flip between kernels?
I ran continuously from 2.5.56 (after my SCSI driver started working again) until 2.6.13 ? or so that was out about 4 weeks ago.
Had virtually no kernel related problems.
Then I switched to Windows.
Life is much easier now.
so how would you propose someone be compensated for something they spent months or years working on?
Please, go right ahead and explore them. Come up with something to replace this system, and you'll be a bazillionaire!
If it were possible to be more than 100% wrong, you would be.
The copyright holder, the baseball commissioner, and the MLB have the exclusive right to determine what you may do with whatever.
(the thing about baseball is a joke, in case you've never seen a broadcast game)
...but what about a book on the photocopier that you haven't purchased?
or an audiobook to a cassette recorder that you haven't purchased?
You know what? In my car, I can play WMA files and RA files, and other digital audio files. I can't play cassettes and CDs though!
You are basically asking everyone to make everything available on 8-track because you still own one.
Right?
The CDs that won't play in certain computers are examples of either defective discs or defective drives.
Region locks are good, too. Now that movie that was not LEGAL to own in Japan (example pulled out of nowhere) suddenly is rather difficult to PLAY in Japan, as well.
And public libraries often have books on cassette.
I don't own a cassette player. Should the library be obligated to loan me one of those too?
I don't think a day goes by anymore that Slashdot's discussions don't make me ill anymore... huge huge HUGE majority of people who think that they deserve the right to play anything they want on Linux.
You want to play it in Linux? You go and write something that will handle the media format. 'k?
(oh, and there are programs that will legitimately play WMA files in Linux, and if the DRM restriction of the library's media only restricts you to being able to decode it for 3 weeks, rather than telling you you can't play it in anything that's not Windows.... )
Your username on Slashdot is especially interesting. You seem to think that it would be better if all the media were shared communely.
See, everyone here is completely missing the point. Not just a little off, but TOTALLY MISSING. (at least in the first 40 comments, that I read before I clicked reply)
Going to the library and borrowing a book that belongs to the library does not transfer you ownership of that book. This is why they call it BORROW. That doesn't change if it's a book on cassette, or a book on CD, or a book on any other kind of media.
Unless you (collective) can suggest a better alternative than "per unit ownership", which I highly doubt you (collective) will be able to do, that's the way it is going to work. You don't go to a library to permanently take their book. And it's not the scarcity of it that makes it need to be returned. They own one, they can loan one. The library could make a zillion copies on their copier, but they DON'T because they've only paid for the number that are in the library. And what do you pay to get a book from your local library? or a magazine? or a CD? or whatever?
Everywhere I've been the use of the library was free for city residents, and a once a year minimal charge for non-city residents. In fact, where I'm at now, the entire resources of the library are free, including internet access (though they do give you a fifteen minute time limit if there are other people waiting to use the machines). The only thing I've had to pay for there is paper for the copier/printer.
So, who's got a better idea for how to sell a book, a CD, a movie, a whatever, than on a per-unit basis?