and, it's discovered that it's not even just a debian issue, it's a kernel issue. At least, the r00t hole was apparently. Probably a debian or machine configuration specific issue as to how it got exploited in the first place, since i'm not sure how you'd get to be executing the brk instruction in the kernel from remote.. lol
Care to explain how any of that gives an obvious explanation to the question that I asked?
Why should I have to dig around in Debian's DEVELOPERS mailing list to get an answer to "are debian's package servers horked up, or is my box horked up"?
I might just dump Linux because I might be the only use of it that's NOT an asshole. bleah!
That is completely obscure information. Why would anyone expect that Debian being compromised would cause them to stop working on everything?
Everything is obscure knowledge - why not just help spread it, rather than belittle people?
I mean, really, it takes just as long to type the answer to a simple question, as it does to type "rtfm you fucking moron bastard child of an incompetent moron" (an example of what i saw earlier today)
Many people have replied to this, stating that IRC is full of assholes.
Well, in case you haven't noticed, ALL Linux support forums are full of assholes. Newsgroups, websites, BBS's, chats, everything. I was merely giving an example that happened to me today. Normally, I don't have any questions that I need to ask others about Linux.. but whenever I do, there's bound to be some asshole (or 15-20 of them) that gets insulting.
Well, one of the things that is definitely wrong, is that if you go into an IRC channel for any non main-stream OS (os/2, linux, mac, etc) and ask a question, you're going to get beaten up by assholes.
case in point, i just logged into the #debian channel on freenode, and asked why the package servers hadn't updated in several days.. at least 15 people got really nasty, ranging from "read the fucking channel topic" to some very nasty insults. Strangely enough, the channel topic had absolutely nothing to talk about the package servers, and the link in the topic was broken.
So, say that I had written a program, that I distributed in binary form, that was GPL.. and had made the source available, but no one actually took advantage of the availability. What happens, if the original source code say, is destroyed in a hard drive failure, or some natural disaster, or some such? What is my liability then?
This actually happened to me, though the 3 year limitation had long since passed before anyone even thought to ask me about the source.. I just told them "look, I wrote this program 10 years ago.. the source was lost in a catastrophic IDE controller failure..." and the person asking was cool about it. But, what if they had decided to take me to court on the GPL?
No, they shouldn't be doing it under the DMCA.. they should be doing it under more conventional laws that would prohibit people from doing this shit. This is fucking ridiculous.
From having been around the Internet for the last 15 years now..
The Internet was a lot MORE capable of being infrastructure, before *.com happened. Since it has been commercialized, the backbones have become more and more important, and routing/re-routing less and less important.
"Error: No Route To Host" at one point in history, literally meant that the computer directly connecting the computer you were trying to reach was offline. Now, "No Route To Host" means that there was a power failure somewhere in the world that just happened to be in the way of your provider routing through a few other providers, or that a janitor somewhere kicked out a plug in Minnesota, while you were trying to connect from Michigan to Texas.
The system used to be able to route around virtually ANY connectivity issue. Now, it can't route it's way out of a wet paper bag.
If Linux loses, I won't be doing system shuffling. I'll be in my car, driving to Utah, to give Darl some seriously well-deserved HRA. Using an unlubed condom.
Sure, they have valid unix licences - FOR NOW. Until SCO decides to go after them. IBM had a valid license, right? (well, i'm sure they still do.. but SCO says they don't)
I'm considering consulting with my lawyer about opening a class-action lawsuit against SCO, vis all people who have ever contributed code to the kernel... hmm... Any thoughts on that anyone?
Jesus Christ, moderated as flamebait, because apparently everyone that reads this place has the same rabid opinion as everyone else? fuck, I might as well just go read Google News.
C'mon, people. These deals will be made public on Thanksgiving. No one goes out of their way to get advance copies of a sale flyer for any other point in time in the entire year. Why? Because if I got an advance copy of February's Best Buy flyer, and published all of what was going to be on sale then - right now - you can bet your ass i'd be in trouble!
Can't you people just wait until Thanksgiving??
Sure, it's silly to use the DMCA for it - but it's just as stupid to have done this in the first place!
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Where on earth do you live, that people actually leave more than 3 inches of space between bumpers? *boggle*
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I drove for 2 years like this, an hour to and from work every day, headset on. I started doing this after i nearly fell asleep on one of the twisty roads early in the morning, and nearly drove into a lake.
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damn lameness filter. hint... hint! hint?!
and, it's discovered that it's not even just a debian issue, it's a kernel issue. At least, the r00t hole was apparently. Probably a debian or machine configuration specific issue as to how it got exploited in the first place, since i'm not sure how you'd get to be executing the brk instruction in the kernel from remote.. lol
I mean "might be the only useR of it that's not an asshole"...
Care to explain how any of that gives an obvious explanation to the question that I asked?
Why should I have to dig around in Debian's DEVELOPERS mailing list to get an answer to "are debian's package servers horked up, or is my box horked up"?
I might just dump Linux because I might be the only use of it that's NOT an asshole. bleah!
That is completely obscure information. Why would anyone expect that Debian being compromised would cause them to stop working on everything?
Everything is obscure knowledge - why not just help spread it, rather than belittle people?
I mean, really, it takes just as long to type the answer to a simple question, as it does to type "rtfm you fucking moron bastard child of an incompetent moron" (an example of what i saw earlier today)
Many people have replied to this, stating that IRC is full of assholes.
Well, in case you haven't noticed, ALL Linux support forums are full of assholes. Newsgroups, websites, BBS's, chats, everything. I was merely giving an example that happened to me today. Normally, I don't have any questions that I need to ask others about Linux.. but whenever I do, there's bound to be some asshole (or 15-20 of them) that gets insulting.
People need to stop being evangelical.
Well, one of the things that is definitely wrong, is that if you go into an IRC channel for any non main-stream OS (os/2, linux, mac, etc) and ask a question, you're going to get beaten up by assholes.
case in point, i just logged into the #debian channel on freenode, and asked why the package servers hadn't updated in several days.. at least 15 people got really nasty, ranging from "read the fucking channel topic" to some very nasty insults. Strangely enough, the channel topic had absolutely nothing to talk about the package servers, and the link in the topic was broken.
Sure! It's GREAT.. if you want 11,000,000 pop-up pr0n ads, and then the program crashes once you finally get all the ads closed.
So, remind me again, what rights does the GPL protect? hmm. nothing.
So, say that I had written a program, that I distributed in binary form, that was GPL.. and had made the source available, but no one actually took advantage of the availability. What happens, if the original source code say, is destroyed in a hard drive failure, or some natural disaster, or some such? What is my liability then?
This actually happened to me, though the 3 year limitation had long since passed before anyone even thought to ask me about the source.. I just told them "look, I wrote this program 10 years ago.. the source was lost in a catastrophic IDE controller failure..." and the person asking was cool about it. But, what if they had decided to take me to court on the GPL?
No, they shouldn't be doing it under the DMCA.. they should be doing it under more conventional laws that would prohibit people from doing this shit. This is fucking ridiculous.
From having been around the Internet for the last 15 years now..
The Internet was a lot MORE capable of being infrastructure, before *.com happened. Since it has been commercialized, the backbones have become more and more important, and routing/re-routing less and less important.
"Error: No Route To Host" at one point in history, literally meant that the computer directly connecting the computer you were trying to reach was offline. Now, "No Route To Host" means that there was a power failure somewhere in the world that just happened to be in the way of your provider routing through a few other providers, or that a janitor somewhere kicked out a plug in Minnesota, while you were trying to connect from Michigan to Texas.
The system used to be able to route around virtually ANY connectivity issue. Now, it can't route it's way out of a wet paper bag.
Sure, the first demonstration.. but at that point, it was no different than gopher, really...
When did the first usable browser exist?
If Linux loses, I won't be doing system shuffling. I'll be in my car, driving to Utah, to give Darl some seriously well-deserved HRA. Using an unlubed condom.
Sure, they have valid unix licences - FOR NOW. Until SCO decides to go after them. IBM had a valid license, right? (well, i'm sure they still do.. but SCO says they don't)
I love how they are looking for "7+ years of web technologies experience"... Has the web passed it's 7th birthday yet?
If it has, not by much...
I'm considering consulting with my lawyer about opening a class-action lawsuit against SCO, vis all people who have ever contributed code to the kernel... hmm... Any thoughts on that anyone?
That's perfectly legal. Buried somewhere in Windows documentation, is BSD's copyright notice.
Nah, GIFs were all the rage. Especially the new 256 color ones...
Unfortunatly, like the original Internet, it won't take all that long for it to be flooded with riff-raff.
I remember a time when I knew literally EVERY English speaking person that used IRC. In the entire world. All 100 or so of them.
That wasn't THAT long ago. Only 15 years or so.
da root! da root! da root is on fire!
Jesus Christ, moderated as flamebait, because apparently everyone that reads this place has the same rabid opinion as everyone else? fuck, I might as well just go read Google News.
C'mon, people. These deals will be made public on Thanksgiving. No one goes out of their way to get advance copies of a sale flyer for any other point in time in the entire year. Why? Because if I got an advance copy of February's Best Buy flyer, and published all of what was going to be on sale then - right now - you can bet your ass i'd be in trouble!
Can't you people just wait until Thanksgiving??
Sure, it's silly to use the DMCA for it - but it's just as stupid to have done this in the first place!
Where on earth do you live, that people actually leave more than 3 inches of space between bumpers? *boggle*
I drove for 2 years like this, an hour to and from work every day, headset on. I started doing this after i nearly fell asleep on one of the twisty roads early in the morning, and nearly drove into a lake.