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I'd rather take the chance. They've been proved wrong so many times in the past that they've lost all credibility to the point of what they say almost being a guarantee of what WON'T happen.
Simple mathematics tell me that if the average family has more than two children the worldpopulation will increact. China realised this and came up with their one-child politics to prevent overpopulation. Simple logics tell me that the land for agriculture will not increase exponentially and neither will the production of food. (hmm. Soylent green??)
Depends where or when you want to go and how fast you need to get there compared to private transportation.
True, but spending time in a traffic jam or in public transport is a choise. The solution is simple. Live close to job.
I use 24W energy-saving bulbs to light up many rooms--because it saves me money, not out of any concern for the environment.
Ah. I get it. Oil companies should make fuel more expensive. This A. ingreases their profit and B. will get people to buy cars that will use less fuel.
And how much, percentage-wise, of the world GDP does the U.S. produce? Yes, we consume more and produce more pollution but that alone doesn't tell the whole story. You need to compare it to how much "gross world product" is created by the nation in question.
I would say you need to calculate the pollution per head of the populaton...
When you look at pollution from an efficiency standpoint, there are about 47 countries that produce less CO2 per dollar produced and about 150+ countries that produce MORE CO2 per dollar produced.
Are you calculating how efficient countries are polluting the world? But that tells more about the eficiency of the production process, but not about the total procuced amount of pollution.
The United States is not the worst polluter in any important way.
Maybe, but I disagree. Anyway even IF they are not the worst polluters they, together with Europe and Japan, have FAR more means to decrease their pollution and help other countries to decrease their pollution.
That's economics. If they are unhappy with the effects, stop selling the product.
There is also something like ethics. Instead of exploiting people now we, yes, ALSO Europe, exploit countries. It's no different, just the scale is larger.
In other words, "Even if they are lying or making absurd claims, at least they're making us aware of a (non-existant) problem."
I think there ARE problems. Pollution is one of them. On a small scale we know the effect of polluted groundwater or the correlation between chemicals and cancer. The point is that the large scale correlation is very hard to proove. We have no reference-world to compare results, but to me it seems safe to asume that there are negative effects on the bigger scale, just as there are negative effect on the smaller scale.
The more educated can and will take this for what it is--the monthly quota of enviro-hype that must be published to keep the media from losing interest and maintaining their funding.
To that I have to agree. 100% Look at Israel and Palestina. After suicide attack 50 the worls has lost interest. And the first time Israel invaded Palestina the whole world was upset and it was all over the news. Now you hardly hear anything about the second invation.
That's when you get knee-jerk reactions not based on science such as Kyoto; luckily that's essentially dead since the U.S. has rejected it out of hand.
Sadly, that is. I think it is too bad that the U.S. is rejecting it while the rest agrees there is a problem and are willing to do something together. And playing together is just a part of the globalisation game.
I don't think a single person could possbily do irrepable damage to the enviroment
Very true, but a single person can do their littke bit to prevent or cause things. Teamwork it's called in management terms. The point is that the effects we're talking about arn't local, but global. If I pollute it has effect on you aswell.
I wonder. Exactely how do you see fit? I guess you wouldn't want to dump chemical wast in your backyard if your children are goint to play there.
How are you so sure? Smoking companies denied the negative effects of sigarettes for years and years and now they have to pay bigtime for claims. Just think about it. Maybe the 'tree-hugging morons' are wrong, but if they are right, are you willing to take that chanse?
Taking public transport (or a bike) doesn't hurt me. Neither does using 40W lamps in stead of 60W. Or turning off televisions and monitors in stead of using the stand-by feature.
I know America (and Russia for that matter) isn't that happy with anti-pollution measures, but together the two nations are good for 50% of the CO2 (and other exhaust) production in the world.
Please don't say that because I'm from Europe I'm a tree-hugging freak. Europe also produces pollution. I know. But why are companies like Shell, Q8, Esso and Texaco looking for other alternatives and what is wrong with that?
But think of this before you mod me down: The effect of acid rain isn't local. Forests all over the world have to suffer the effects. Importing oil, wood and other products from the 3rd world leaves THEM with the effects while we have the products.
And even if, in 50 years the statistics turned out to be wrong, at leas it is good to be aware of the (possible) consequences of our lifestyle.
Of course I would write a very long story explaining them WHY I hate to be spammed and I hould have to add the whois-information together with their spam as evidence and a clear question to stop all their spamming activities.
"in reaction to your offerings by e-mail"... It's just a reaction to their initial mail. the law wouldn't forbid to communicate with someone?
I just LOVE to find a fax-number of a spammer. oferload their resources, call them, waste their time, put their names on the internet, have an auto opt-in for your e-mail (you spam me, I send you t lots 'o free advice).
blocking is not enough if there is a big response on their telephone (whois) they're out of business for at least a day, maybe longer. make them feel sorry for sending spam.
we - M$ - claim all the right to install updates on your television. Also we can, shall and will block programs we don't like.
furthermore, if your dvd-player, vhs or gameconsole is not 100% M$ compatible we have the right to block the signal. Purely to protect the tv's hardware ofcourse. This has nothing to do with wanting to own your room your house (or the world for that matter) or something.
Maybe I missed something, but this picture suggeste the heat of the processor is used to warm up the harddisk (or the other way around). Either way I think this is not what you want.
The judge ordered to remove all the hyperlinks to the german articles. www.slashdot.org surely refers to a site, but I wouldn't think it's a hyperlink.
And yes, sadly it's true. I think it's time to escape from the Netherlands to a better place;)
I agree, it seems logical. 'dutch' and 'deutsch' really look simmilar, but they are NOT. The text on/. makes one mixup after the other so let's put the things in the right place.
People from the Netherlands (Nederland) are dutch (nederlands). (The word 'Holland' is ufed to refer to the western part is the Netherlands.) People in Germany (Deutschland) are german (deutsch).
Radical is a german bulletin which was posted on www.xs4all.nl. The atricles in question were on disrupting the german railways. The 'Deutsche Bahn' (in germany, not dutch) found the articles on the dutch server and asked xs4all to remove the articles. Xs4all is really cool. It was started about 10 (more or less) years ago by a few hackers who wanted legal and cheap access to the internet for all. Anyway. The german railroads asked the dutch to take off the Radical site.
If I receive spam from the Netherlands (I live there, you know) I just LOVE to go to here to find their number and call the fuckers. I found out I wasn't the only one calling by the tone of the voice on the other side of the line.
I just, friendly, explain them that i was not not interested in their product, I was really sorprised to know I had an erection problem, ask them if they thought about the negative publicity and so on. Every minute they don't work is costly for them.
An other option you can try is to send them a free fax explaining the same thing. Maybe you can offer them to respond with a fortune cookie-fax (man who send spam will receive fax) every time you get spam from them.
Don't just sit there pressing the delete button, accepting the spam as part of e-mail, but fight back. Not by hiding behind spamblockers, but by getting to the spammer.
Oh. My personal offer is this: "You're today's lucky spammer. You've been selected, out of all today's spam, to get a call for each received spam today. We'll gladly tell you what was offered in every spam. This all is paer of our mail policy in which you opted in by sending me spam. You'll be hearing from us today. Thank you"
I think that tech better spend his time securing his system.
Once a system has been compromised, I wouldn't trust it. There is almost no way of telling is there isn't a hidden backdoor or something like that. Twipwire might help a bit, but think about this:
How many time does the admin spend on changing the default configurations and how many time does he spend on security? (and remember: Time = money)
(Hmm. ah, now I understand that option in the poll, T = $;)
A compromised system means spending time to repair it. I'd go for a secure system and a good backup.
Long long time ago, when me still was a littke kid I 'cracked' a database with super leet skillzzz.
That is, the application had a password, dut you could read the plain text database with Norton Commander.
But wait. I have the solution. Distributed brute force. People, all over the world stop searching for ET, the biggest prime or the cure for cancer. One week later the password must be found, I guess;)
In addition, the hacking tool he had downloaded and used came with an explicit warning that it was illegal to use the tool against another computer network and that it was not designed to collect statistics or information that could be used to build a new firewall.
If a 12 years old says he can build a rocket, he can. If he uses wood, it will work. Maybe a DoS-tool doesn't look like a tool for grown-ups, but for a kid it might.
Oh. And what do you use to test a bullet-proof vest with? That isn't sold al 'bullet proof vest-testingdevice' either.
I'm working with hundreds of students around me and it is 'remarkable' that all the students with RSI work(ed) a lot of hours with a computer. They all were facing deadlines like graduating or other important events like 'must finish this or else...'
I'd say stress is a very important factor.
but good height of a table can take away some problems.
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I'd rather take the chance. They've been proved wrong so many times in the past that they've lost all credibility to the point of what they say almost being a guarantee of what WON'T happen.
Simple mathematics tell me that if the average family has more than two children the worldpopulation will increact. China realised this and came up with their one-child politics to prevent overpopulation. Simple logics tell me that the land for agriculture will not increase exponentially and neither will the production of food. (hmm. Soylent green??)
Depends where or when you want to go and how fast you need to get there compared to private transportation.
True, but spending time in a traffic jam or in public transport is a choise. The solution is simple. Live close to job.
I use 24W energy-saving bulbs to light up many rooms--because it saves me money, not out of any concern for the environment.
Ah. I get it. Oil companies should make fuel more expensive. This A. ingreases their profit and B. will get people to buy cars that will use less fuel.
And how much, percentage-wise, of the world GDP does the U.S. produce? Yes, we consume more and produce more pollution but that alone doesn't tell the whole story. You need to compare it to how much "gross world product" is created by the nation in question.
I would say you need to calculate the pollution per head of the populaton...
When you look at pollution from an efficiency standpoint, there are about 47 countries that produce less CO2 per dollar produced and about 150+ countries that produce MORE CO2 per dollar produced.
Are you calculating how efficient countries are polluting the world? But that tells more about the eficiency of the production process, but not about the total procuced amount of pollution.
The United States is not the worst polluter in any important way.
Maybe, but I disagree. Anyway even IF they are not the worst polluters they, together with Europe and Japan, have FAR more means to decrease their pollution and help other countries to decrease their pollution.
That's economics. If they are unhappy with the effects, stop selling the product.
There is also something like ethics. Instead of exploiting people now we, yes, ALSO Europe, exploit countries. It's no different, just the scale is larger.
In other words, "Even if they are lying or making absurd claims, at least they're making us aware of a (non-existant) problem."
I think there ARE problems. Pollution is one of them. On a small scale we know the effect of polluted groundwater or the correlation between chemicals and cancer. The point is that the large scale correlation is very hard to proove. We have no reference-world to compare results, but to me it seems safe to asume that there are negative effects on the bigger scale, just as there are negative effect on the smaller scale.
The more educated can and will take this for what it is--the monthly quota of enviro-hype that must be published to keep the media from losing interest and maintaining their funding.
To that I have to agree. 100% Look at Israel and Palestina. After suicide attack 50 the worls has lost interest. And the first time Israel invaded Palestina the whole world was upset and it was all over the news. Now you hardly hear anything about the second invation.
That's when you get knee-jerk reactions not based on science such as Kyoto; luckily that's essentially dead since the U.S. has rejected it out of hand.
Sadly, that is. I think it is too bad that the U.S. is rejecting it while the rest agrees there is a problem and are willing to do something together. And playing together is just a part of the globalisation game.
I don't think a single person could possbily do irrepable damage to the enviroment
Very true, but a single person can do their littke bit to prevent or cause things. Teamwork it's called in management terms. The point is that the effects we're talking about arn't local, but global. If I pollute it has effect on you aswell.
I wonder. Exactely how do you see fit? I guess you wouldn't want to dump chemical wast in your backyard if your children are goint to play there.
Thanks. You're risking my world (and my childrens world) too.
why is the number of 'who cares' and 'they're talking crap' reactions so high?
people in africa don't die from aids.
rainforests never existed.
hunger is a state of mind.
and the forestfires in arizona is made up by cnn.
as much as I want people in arizona to keep their houses, I want prople in africa to have food and medicine.
How are you so sure? Smoking companies denied the negative effects of sigarettes for years and years and now they have to pay bigtime for claims. Just think about it. Maybe the 'tree-hugging morons' are wrong, but if they are right, are you willing to take that chanse?
Taking public transport (or a bike) doesn't hurt me. Neither does using 40W lamps in stead of 60W. Or turning off televisions and monitors in stead of using the stand-by feature.
I know America (and Russia for that matter) isn't that happy with anti-pollution measures, but together the two nations are good for 50% of the CO2 (and other exhaust) production in the world.
Please don't say that because I'm from Europe I'm a tree-hugging freak. Europe also produces pollution. I know. But why are companies like Shell, Q8, Esso and Texaco looking for other alternatives and what is wrong with that?
But think of this before you mod me down: The effect of acid rain isn't local. Forests all over the world have to suffer the effects. Importing oil, wood and other products from the 3rd world leaves THEM with the effects while we have the products.
And even if, in 50 years the statistics turned out to be wrong, at leas it is good to be aware of the (possible) consequences of our lifestyle.
Of course I would write a very long story explaining them WHY I hate to be spammed and I hould have to add the whois-information together with their spam as evidence and a clear question to stop all their spamming activities.
"in reaction to your offerings by e-mail"... It's just a reaction to their initial mail. the law wouldn't forbid to communicate with someone?
I just LOVE to find a fax-number of a spammer.
oferload their resources, call them, waste their time, put their names on the internet, have an auto opt-in for your e-mail (you spam me, I send you t lots 'o free advice).
blocking is not enough if there is a big response on their telephone (whois) they're out of business for at least a day, maybe longer. make them feel sorry for sending spam.
we - M$ - claim all the right to install updates on your television. Also we can, shall and will block programs we don't like.
furthermore, if your dvd-player, vhs or gameconsole is not 100% M$ compatible we have the right to block the signal. Purely to protect the tv's hardware ofcourse. This has nothing to do with wanting to own your room your house (or the world for that matter) or something.
Maybe I missed something, but this picture suggeste the heat of the processor is used to warm up the harddisk (or the other way around). Either way I think this is not what you want.
Still, it looks VERY cool.
Err, slept through what exactly?
following your line of thought uncapping is just like speeding.
OTHO you ARE using more recources to which you are not entitled, so theft it still is.
one word: we're doomed.
yes, it's 'smuzzuF' ,but.... how did you know??? ;)
Oopsie. I forgot to send my lost password of the Norwegian database to my boss.
The judge ordered to remove all the hyperlinks to the german articles. www.slashdot.org surely refers to a site, but I wouldn't think it's a hyperlink.
;)
And yes, sadly it's true. I think it's time to escape from the Netherlands to a better place
I agree, it seems logical. 'dutch' and 'deutsch' really look simmilar, but they are NOT. The text on /. makes one mixup after the other so let's put the things in the right place.
People from the Netherlands (Nederland) are dutch (nederlands). (The word 'Holland' is ufed to refer to the western part is the Netherlands.)
People in Germany (Deutschland) are german (deutsch).
Radical is a german bulletin which was posted on www.xs4all.nl. The atricles in question were on disrupting the german railways. The 'Deutsche Bahn' (in germany, not dutch) found the articles on the dutch server and asked xs4all to remove the articles.
Xs4all is really cool. It was started about 10 (more or less) years ago by a few hackers who wanted legal and cheap access to the internet for all.
Anyway. The german railroads asked the dutch to take off the Radical site.
I hope it helps to understand the article.
I just, friendly, explain them that i was not not interested in their product, I was really sorprised to know I had an erection problem, ask them if they thought about the negative publicity and so on. Every minute they don't work is costly for them.
An other option you can try is to send them a free fax explaining the same thing. Maybe you can offer them to respond with a fortune cookie-fax (man who send spam will receive fax) every time you get spam from them.
Don't just sit there pressing the delete button, accepting the spam as part of e-mail, but fight back. Not by hiding behind spamblockers, but by getting to the spammer.
Oh. My personal offer is this: "You're today's lucky spammer. You've been selected, out of all today's spam, to get a call for each received spam today. We'll gladly tell you what was offered in every spam. This all is paer of our mail policy in which you opted in by sending me spam. You'll be hearing from us today. Thank you"
Yesterday (thursday) I heared someone say on the news that they found some investors and got enough money to live through this month.
That leaves them with roughly two weeks to find a real solution. The bottom line stays the same. They have to find a lot of money somewhere.
The strange thing is that announcement was made on th 6 o'clock news and the press release is from 5 o'clock.
Why, if it's possible to create a living dinosaur, is it too hard (or expensive) to create a computer model of the city?
and you can destroy a computer-city if you want (and the plot requires it). Also you don't have to insure your model or shur it down for two days.
I just wonder why....
I think that tech better spend his time securing his system.
;)
Once a system has been compromised, I wouldn't trust it. There is almost no way of telling is there isn't a hidden backdoor or something like that. Twipwire might help a bit, but think about this:
How many time does the admin spend on changing the default configurations and how many time does he spend on security? (and remember: Time = money)
(Hmm. ah, now I understand that option in the poll, T = $
A compromised system means spending time to repair it. I'd go for a secure system and a good backup.
Yeeha! Now THERE possibilities a use for my old computer.
But how the f**k do I install apache on it?
Long long time ago, when me still was a littke kid I 'cracked' a database with super leet skillzzz.
;)
That is, the application had a password, dut you could read the plain text database with Norton Commander.
But wait. I have the solution. Distributed brute force. People, all over the world stop searching for ET, the biggest prime or the cure for cancer. One week later the password must be found, I guess
In addition, the hacking tool he had downloaded and used came with an explicit warning that it was illegal to use the tool against another computer network and that it was not designed to collect statistics or information that could be used to build a new firewall.
If a 12 years old says he can build a rocket, he can. If he uses wood, it will work. Maybe a DoS-tool doesn't look like a tool for grown-ups, but for a kid it might.
Oh. And what do you use to test a bullet-proof vest with? That isn't sold al 'bullet proof vest-testingdevice' either.
I believe him when he says he was 'only testing'.
I'm working with hundreds of students around me and it is 'remarkable' that all the students with RSI work(ed) a lot of hours with a computer.
They all were facing deadlines like graduating or other important events like 'must finish this or else...'
I'd say stress is a very important factor.
but good height of a table can take away some problems.