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Crack a Password, Save Norwegian History
Christian writes "With the death of the only person who knew the password to an archive held at a museum in Norway, suddenly the data became inaccessible. The result? A nationwide radio appeal asking for "hackers" to volunteer to help solve the problem! The
Norway Post has the story." I wonder if they looked under his keyboard yet..
firstpostmotherfuckers!
Does my name get to be a part of history for single handly saving it?
"There is no real right or wrong, just what the majority accepts at the time."
Encryption can only be successfully used for terrorist purposes. For what possible reason could this guy have encrypted this information?
Now he's dead and we have to ask other criminals to come to Norway's rescue.
Thanks, encryption zealots. Thanks a lot.
I have been pwned because my
what is Norweigan for "password".
Setting his threshold to 5, Sparky eliminated most of the trolls on /.
There are NO POSTS, and already the article is inaccessible. Is this a record for taking down a server?
Mesenger: John is Dead!
Meseum: (in sync) Ahhh, he was a lovely fellow, never bothered a soul... wonderful guy... absolutely great...
Mesenger 2: He was the only one who knew the password to the history archive!
Mesuem: That F&%cker! How dare he die... mother f%#cking asshole!
Messenger 2: Hey... don't kill the messenger!
when an entire archive is maintained by one mortal person. I wonder how many other times cases like these have come to surface. Sure, they may be on a much smaller scale, but something is to be said about archives of data maintained by one person, or one person having the only password to access these archives. But I guess we all know about too many cooks in the kitchen...
5. Juni 2002
Hackers respond to password challenge
Hackers have responded in large numbers to an appeal from the director of a culture center and literary museum on the west coast of Norway.
The password to one of their library archive systems is missing.
The museum built in honour of the famous Norwegian linguist Ivar Aasen received a gift of more than 1600 books and documents which had been catalogued and registered in a national data bank, which researchers and interested people may access.
Only trouble was that the expert who had helped the donor with the archiving work had died, and had failed to pass on the password.
In order to get access to the data base, Director Ottar Grepstad appealed on nationwide radio for help to solve the problem.
The response was above expectations, and the director is now busy chosing the expert most likely to solve the problem.
(NRK)
(this loaded very slow, but I got it.)
The truth shall set you free!
is the call for hackers to find a way to circumvent the login system to retrieve the data, or do they want the password 'recovered' by using a dictionary attack, or another brute-force method?
Though, at this point, they probably aren't too particular.
The name of his dog!
What? He didn't have a dog?
Oh, well.
I mod down anyone who uses M$ in their posts. I like to live on the edge.
I've already cracked it. Got the archives open right here. Let's see:
In the year 1005, the 1337 v1k0rs raided the English coast for raping and pillaging...
I have been thinking about this for a while. If I died suddenly, from the view of the online community, I would just disappear. No one would know to contact them. Most people would forget, or never notice, but some should really be contacted. Now I'm thinking I should make a list and put it on my hard drive to be found, (right next to the prOn) and have instructions on who needs informing.
120 chars of filth!
...this only happens in Norway :)
Did Cowboy Neil die and take all the passwords with him?
I have been pwned because my
What if they discover the password to their vaunted history is protected by "KiraKenerl0vesmywingwang?"
An Education is the Font of All Liberty
trustno1
... sometimes I fly with the white swan to my Liffey home.
Anyone have a mirror to the article?
echo Norweigan | ispell -a
>I wonder if they looked under his keyboard yet..
If they do they will probably just see the Norwegian "Knappe i andre enden !" sign.
Crack a password, save history.
Get a cable modem, go to jail..
What kind of crazy backwards world are we living in?
The link doesn't seem to work
Berlin is now called Fresco (.org
Yet another spelling mistake in a headline.
http://216.239.37.100/search?q=cache:http://www.no rwaypost.com/content.asp?folder_id=1&cluster_id=19 820
Damn, I can't even figure out how to post a link... anyone care to enlighten?
Ivar Aasen is famous in Norway. Created the language New Norwegian (Nynorsk). Norway use two languages. nynorsk and bokmaal.
Sig e godt =)
This is an interesting issue. Any -minimally skilled- IT operator knows he should never tell passes to other people. But, what if this person dies? How can we safely store passwords so that those can be retrieved if "shit happens"? Probably we cannot use encription (you need a pass to decrypt stuff), so what? Probably for most of us, a piece of paper in a safe place at home is enough, hackers *usually* do not break-in to get passwords. But I guess there is people around protecting *really* important data, and they do not trust anyone... what can they do to make passwords "undiscoverable" until "death" or sudden amnesy?
:dikappa
common utilities
1) tar
2) ar
3) grep
4) ps
and not so common
5) rep (well its installed on my system, but I'd never heard of it, further investigation reveals it to be a standalone lisp interpretter from the librep package (see "info librep", I am indeed learning something new every day))
Jon Barrett would be proud.
A little info:
The database is from Dbase 4, I don't know how the security is on that format. It contains data about the norwegian linguist Ivar Aasen. For those interested in giving it a try, just search on norwegian pages to find the directors email address (name in another post). He's received quite a few emails already... (No, won't give the address here, pity the one who gets his email published on Slashdot).
Please excuse crappy english, save your grammatic flames.
Are you a grammar Nazi? I'm trying to improve my English; please correct my errors!
Netcraft.com:
The site www.norwaypost.com is running Microsoft-IIS/4.0 on NT4/Windows 98.
Sad, isn't it?
Anyway, two ways to attack this problem: brute force it or be clever and see if this can be done by social engineering. If there are any people that know him well enough they might. Otoh, the way I choose passwords it might be tough even when people know me.
I remember this story about a similar incident a long while back. Somebody encrypted a file using a new algorithm and couldn't believe how fast that went. To verify the speed he then proceeded to encrypt the backup too and forgot _both_ passwords. This was a long time ago and to this day I don't believe it but the moral of the story is: keep an unecrypted version in an off-line, off-site backup medium in a vault for digital media in duplicate.
Karma? What's that again?
If it was american history, it would probably be shorter than the password.
RMN
~~~
Whats going on?
I wish I could help, but I do intend to travel to the US at some later time in my life, and I don't want to be arrested for circumventig a protection device or something... Boy, do you americans have stupid laws...
free the mallocs!
Why don't they simply u.v. scan the keyboard with some talc, call Don Johnson, and get which keys are used most often?
Asking hackers to smooth things over is not the best alternative.
Use HTML and make sure the posting mode is set to "Plain text" or "HTML formatted":
<A HREF="http://slashdot.org/">this is a link</A>
...becomes
this is a link
RMN
~~~
Is this a job for Beowulf?
Here comes the compulsory attack from an angry Norwegian that 'Norweigan' should be spelled 'Norwegian'.
-Angry Norwegian
;)
"HTTP/1.1 Server Too Busy"
/.ed
A simple program... something to send that important email, decrypt the data that you honestly don't have to safeguard anymore, etc. A program to take action when you haven't proven (password | biometric | whatever...) your continued existance on a pre-arranged schedule.
And wouldn't you know it, one exists!
I caught this discussion at Ars Technica last month. It refers to a cool-sounding program called "Dead Man's Switch (DMS)", which caught the attention of the New York Times.
Just a few issues...
- Don't go on vacation for a longer period of time than you have the 'bot set for
- What happens when you actually do pass on to the great unknown, don't manage to pay your bills, and your (ISP | power company | shell host) kills your service?
- Or, more simply, what if your next of kin just tag the 'ol power switch?
Oh well... no person (or thing!) is perfect. Norway is keenly aware of this right now.(see either link, "If you're reading this, I'm dead!" type goofs have happened!)
"...America's great minds of today, teaching America's great minds of tomorrow. Poor bastards." -- A Beautiful Min
Hindsight is 20/20, but what a great time for biometric encryption.
Maybe you'll be part of history. The article does not name the guy who died.
After seeing the interest in for example the RC5-56 challenge and others, it is a fact that there is a huge amount of people interested in participating in things like this. Maybe a distributed computing project, willing and open to take any (non criminal) tasks would not be that bad idea afterall. If there would be volunteers for building the crunching code using API provided, it would be possible to run projects with quite short lifecycle. I don't see SETI and RC5-56 and similar projects very interesting anymore. The task should be clear, reasonable and the estimated brute forcing time should be reasonable (like in 3 months maximum.) A dozen of little tasks per year, might prove more interesting.
:) and in this case probably no distributed brute forcing is needed - just the plain old crackerjack should do. :) .
Anyway, in this particular case, and 99% of others, the password is "IAmGod"
crapflood technology in your wide posts.
There are some fine new items that will make your pages more attractive
as well as more wide.
Information wants to be wide!!
Hey, how about some info on the database, what algorithm does use for cryptography?
Doesn't really matter though, the whole idea seems quite silly to me, and the task will probably end up on my universities doorstep anyway (University of Bergen).
what are you loooking down here for? I said
no message hehehehehe
I bet some 14 year old will crack the password, and the world will find the archive replaced with a black page and blinking text saying "YoU'V3 b33n 0wn3d by da 1337 kr3w!"
Twice in recent years I've had the unhappy task of attempting to recover password protected personal files created by friends who have died. In each case the files contained financial information that the next of kin needed.
While password security is undoubtedly a good thing, it goes a bit beyond its remit if it locks out the wrong people. In most jobs I've had it has been common practice to keep hardcopies of passwords in sealed and signed envelopes placed in safes. While this is probably overkill for home users it's worth considering doing something like this for your family or friends and letting them know about it. Especially if you're someone I know. I really, really don't want to have to go through this again.
I would be a paid subscriber if Taco and Hemos weren't such cunts
...if the European version of the DMCA is passed, this would be an illegal act, likely to get the participant thrown in jail. Just to generalize, if the system is used commercially as a copy protection scheme by anyone, it would immediately fall under the category of "circumventing a copy protection device" by "cracking" it.
Of course, I am sure those in charge would happily my exceptions to this rule when it suits them. Still, this could be a great opportunity to speak out against such legislature.
Why bother.
When they do crack the files, they'll just find his grocery lists.
Mod Karma -1: I sed bad wurds. If I cep my mouf shut, I wud be at riyses.
Well? What's the URL so we can all try it? They gotta trust me, I'm swedish! ;-)
They need a brain surgeon. Memories remain active in the brain for up to 72 hours after death, or longer if the body is quickly chilled to below 3 degrees Centigrade. Simple secrets are stored just below the lateral side of the premotor cortex so that's where I'd start looking. BE VERY CAREFUL and don't cut anything that doesn't require it.
What is Norwegian post?
I've never heard about it
Have they tryed pressing the ESC key yet?
"Oh no, not again"
Radio and MTV, you need people like ME!
just hook up the computer to the internet with a NT/IIS webserver, and voila, within a few hours it should b hacked.
"I think it would be a good idea" Gandhi, on Western Civilisation
...where's that old ouija board of mine gone?
I've put the contact details of who should take over the stuff I run (and the required passwords) in my testament. The only hassle is updating it regularly.
They are lucky that this unfortunate employee was not using biometrics to protect the archive.
The app i'd write would probably violate the DMCA,
may get into the hands of terrorists,
and tred on the toes of a few patents.
thank God the internet isn't a human right.
They apparently have physical access to the archive, so unless strong encryption was used the password itself probably isn't necessary. I've had to do this before, I received a demo machine for literally pennies on the dollar at my old lab. The only catch is that the root password was lost. I mounted the hard drive in another machine and just modified /etc/passwd that way. I eventually did a full reinstall but at the time my installation media was on loan elsewhere.
Chris Kuivenhoven is a thief, beware
If that fellow had made his password Open Source then the museum could have leveraged from the massive knowledge pool that comprises the experience Open Source developer community.
It is only at times such as this that we are reminded of the true value of Open Source.
Did they try 'password', the employee's dog's name, the signifigant other's name, the current month, or any other of these exceedingly hard to crack passwords that no hacker will ever be able to crack without a dictionary?
Duris MUD - The best pkill MUD. Ever.
Two words would describe you perfectly: immature moron
When the URL has a ".asp" in it from a server that responds back to HTTP requests with "Microsoft-IIS/4.0" is it not safe to assume that putting up said URL on Slashdot will have a slash-effect in less than 10 replies? Leave it to Slashdot to turn "save our history" also into "save our online post!"
There's even a better way with encryption such as PGP. We use it here at work. All critical files are encrypted not only with the keys of those who need to see it, but with a special escrow key that we all have on our key ring.
In the safe deposit box is a couple CD-R's with the private key and the passphrase. And just in case, the protected private key is stored on paper.
Other alternatives would be to use true key escrow. Employee keys are broken up in n parts, which are given to different departments, locations, etc. A certain number of these key parts can be used to recreate the complete key pair. A nice feature of the now defunct NAI PGP division. Grrrr.
The site is down...
I wonder which would be more difficult; cracking the password or cracking the encryption on the data? They know the context of the data, so some clever cryptanalysis would work. On the other hand, the password is probably a dictionary word, so a norwegian dictionary attack would be even easier.
This is actually a pretty serious issue with any kind of system where only one person has the password.
The ISP I once working for nearly went out of business several years back because the only tech with high level access was in a serious car accident and out of action for a month or so.
Its all very well not writing down passwords, and saying that nothing is going to happen to you, but in the real world, people get ill, run over, fall down etc. - In large companies its more then likely not a problem, but in a small company that has only one tech person doing everything, people need to make sure there is a plan of action for if that person becomes unreachable for any reason.
I saw the light at the end of the tunnel... But it was just someone with a flashlight bringing more work.
Rep (standing for "read evaluate print") is a dependancy for sawfish, which is probably why you have it. May be phased out in sawfish in favor of guile, but the sawfish author wrote rep, so don't hold your breath.
...and this lie crawls out of its mouth: 'I, the state, am the people.'
When the expert died, no-one had the password for the database. But the Ivar Aasen museum has maybe found a solution.
The Ivar Aasen museum is a national documentation center for nynorsk (Red: We have two versions of our written language, bokmål and nynorsk) language culture (?). They got a huge database of more than 1600 books and magazines in nynorsk by the Ivar Aasen expert Reidar Djupedal who passed away in 1989. Unfortunately, the database was password protected and no-one knew the password. Therefore, manager Ottar Grepstad went to the national radio channel NRK P1 to attract the attention of hackers. Now, tips are coming in from everywhere. - I've got 20 e-mails and 5 or 6 phone calls. It seems like this is something that really interest computer freaks (translation note: could be geek/nerd, in Norwegian "frik"), says Grepstad to dagbladet.no. The old database program "DBase 4" has been used. The Aasen museum has tried every thinkable password. In addition they have contacted Bibsys (Note: the national coordination of library databases) in Trondheim, who also had to give up.
Parapsychological organization
- I've even been contacted a couple of times by a parapsychological (psychic) organization. They told me that maybe people with special abilities could help us finding the password. They said it could be a regular word spelled backwards, says Grepstad. The manager hasn't had the time to go through all the tips, but many can be good. - Some tips propose alternative programs that can be used. Others send me links to websites that can help and some propose firms that can help us break the password, he says. The IT division will now go through all the tips to see if any of them are any good.
Roses are #FF0000, violets are #0000FF, all my base are belong to you
"But Your Honor, I had to load all that pirated software on my machine. Norweigan history was at stake!"
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I think someone needs to help out Norway with a good backup strategy. Obviously important information stored at one site? Only a single person knowing how to get into the archive?
--- rapper/producer/bachelorette party stripper
The National Centre of the New Norwegian Language and Culture
The New Norwegian Language
Ivar Aasen
Roses are #FF0000, violets are #0000FF, all my base are belong to you
Perhaps the password is 'Password', because everyone knows that people use very difficult to remember passwords.
Have they checked under his chair for the pwd???
But I bet he had a dog, it just died during his Viking funeral and can't tell us it's name any more.
If dogs name does not work use "Override".
Eve Fairbanks says I drive a hybrid!LOL
another site slashdoted like a little bitch
The norwegian tech news website Digi.no reports (http://www.aasentunet.no/)that manager Grepstad and the other people at "Ivar Aasen-tunet" on monday even got emails from to parapsychological groups who intended to help to find the passwords. A new way of hacking (even more successful than social engineering; psychic engineering!)?
:)
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By monday they had recieved more than thirty emails from helpful people. I guess that number will rise a bit after being Slashdotted
By the way - their website is at http://www.aasentunet.no/
The database is of type dBase4.
Grepstad claims that total amount of work to get all data catalogued again would exceed four years.
Jakob Breivik Grimstveit
"I love deadlines. I love the whooshing noise they make as they go by."
Lutefisk?
(!)
What I fail to understand is why the database was password protected in the first place!
If it is in a museum then everybody had to have free access to the information. If the database is purely password protected for writing (as in read-only) I would understand it as well!
Maybe it is one of those Microsoft Word pop-ups where it asks you a password if you want to open the file for writing. I have stopped counting the number of people mailing me for the password for documents 'cause they cannot read it, turning out the password was not required at all!
BTW DBase is so old and the algorithms used for protection are all well-known. They could not be using anything better than DES and the average 2.4GHz machine can crack that in a couple of weeks nowadays so I fail to grasp the crisis.
"With the death of the only person who knew the password to an archive held at a museum in Norway, suddenly the website became inaccessible. The result? A nationwide radio appeal asking for "slashdotters" to volunteer to help solve the problem! The Norway Post had the story"
I'll have something intelligent to add one of these days...
I guess you could count on an American arriving at that conclusion ... whereas most other people with either a modicum of footy knowledge/culture or a less amputated view of the world surely would say that the Portuguese lost the game single-handedly through a combination of not being focused, poor defense (goals 2 & 3), and a weird panic attack setting on with an hour to go and lasting for the duration of the match.
...
Now, what we really need, is Bush's account of the events
Long long time ago, when me still was a littke kid I 'cracked' a database with super leet skillzzz.
;)
That is, the application had a password, dut you could read the plain text database with Norton Commander.
But wait. I have the solution. Distributed brute force. People, all over the world stop searching for ET, the biggest prime or the cure for cancer. One week later the password must be found, I guess
Privacy is terrorism.
... this wouldn't be a problem
That library is running a Gibson XP with a 128-bit hack-proof firewall with triple redundant fault re-routers.
Prevent linux based DDOS's!
http://linux.denialofservice.org/
...we all unite and call ourselves europeans and make fun of the americans (not including canadians).
aL1Yu0r^Herr1Ngrb10Ng2uS
Guess who's become the latest poster child for password escrow?
It's supposed to be completely automatic, but actually you have to press this button.
Not only is it ultimate for 10 Mbps boxen, but itrs also LEGAL ;-)
It's just an idea.
...with explicit instructions to ignore the porn, anti-company propaganda, and other contraband they find in your accounts ;)
Chow down on my ass-cock fucktard.
For something this important, why would only one
person have the password to the encryption?
And why encrypt it to begin with?
Shouldn't you go back and do sompthing your good at, like reading MS magazines?, playing minesweeper, of reading MSNnews?
Sources within the Ministry of Ministries yesterday confirmed that, in fact, Ottar Grepstad is dying.
Use of Ottar Grepstad is down 65% from last quarter according to netcraft guru Moglu Winstad. Tune in next week when we discuss why BSD is dying!
Seems ironic to me. Something was so secret it needed to be password protected, but now they're begging for people to tell them what it is.
Do you even lift?
These aren't the 'roids you're looking for.
password in norwegian = passord
(i actually used that for my ftp-server, since i didn't bother too much about who got into it)
=)
I can see it now... "Hacker saves museum database, is charged under DCMA"
Of course, then the RIAA would sue them, just because they can.
Dark Nexus
"Sanity is calming, but madness is more interesting."
Yes indeed.
Once we had an old server, for which we needed the password to get some old data off of it. After spending a couple hours trying to track down the guy who would know what it was, I got bored and started trying different things. To my amusement, the first thing I tried worked. "password" How original. I wonder if they've tried that yet?
The snow doesn't give a soft white damn whom it touches. -- ee cummings
But why?
Seriously though, how often do problems like this occur? I never have important information entrusted to the care of any single person, including myself, for reasons that this article should make apparent.
--Kevin
The 911 event pointed put huge problems with the NY telecommunications systems and data networks due to loss of key individuals and equipment. What would happen to your company if you physically lost your servers or personnel due to some unforeseen event?
What's norwegian for "password"?
blahblah Lameness filter is itself lame... ironic...
Just wait till some crappy band steals your nic.
Maybe I should swing by and give it a shot.
Hmm. XYZZY? PLUGH? Decisions, Decisions.
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"I'm sorry Cr4Ck3r DuD3, but there's no check. However, we've been looking for you regarding a DDOS we got last week..."
Q: You've got a real heart beating inside your chest.
Picard: So I won't die?
Q: OF COURSE YOU'LL DIE!! It will only be on a later date.
(from the episode Tapestry)
Why exactly would they ask for crackers from the public? They just need to hire a sercurity team; otherwise some script kiddie will get his jollies by killing their data.
...need to find a new hiding spot for my passwords. Under the monitor maybe?
Can I bum a sig?
dBase module
Or a $75 service. Password Crackers Inc.
after telling the password to a CEO, who later got sacked, he had to reset 100 passwords. He didn't want to do that again.
Whatever loser, that guy probably knows more about Linux than you do (and, oh, that is *so* important around here). I can definately related to many of the points, especially hypocritical Linux bigots.
how pathetic is "reading MS magazines?..." ?
I don't get what's with all the ideas of putting the password in a safe? How is putting the password in a safe and deciding who knows the combination to the safe different than simply deciding who knows the password?
I can and would do it... but norweigan kids would hate me for doing it... they would have to study it in school.
I prefer to be a hero for saving those poor norweigan kids. Therefore I hereby swear not to do it.
This is not my sig.
Slashdot readers in the USA: You have violated US law by reading this article, which is an attempt to bypass a protection device.
Did they try "1,2,3,4,5"?
"That's the combination for my luggage!"
I really hate signatures, but go to my website.
Days ago, Ottar Grepstad, director of the culture center and literary museum on the west coast of Norway, was busy selecting his expert of choice to hack a password known only by a dead man. It has been revealed that only minutes after his public appeal for a skiller hax0r to recover this password, his archive was ow3nd by Kevin Mitnick. The notorious hacker released information found in the archive that seems to indicate that Britney Spears was concieved by using frozen sperm from non other than Mike Tyson himself. The egg donor was only referred to in the archive as "Camilla" and it is suspected she is the same woman that Prince Charles is dating.
I'll rant a bit (it's Slashdot, after all) trying to figure out a way to avoid this in the first place:
My first instinct is the really low-tech alternative: hire a lawyer to deal with your confidential information when you die. Just like any other "unsolved business" with your state, your passwords,etc. would be given to someone you deem capable of dealing with the issue...
But almost no one prepares for death that way either, so what are the technical alternatives?
- A cron job of sorts? Would depend on the server running indefinitely until some stipulated date when it would release the information... if it used some distributed system, it could avoid the vulnerabilities that come to mind at first sight. But a system that requires you to identify yourself and register would require almost as much preparation as the lawyer, and an anonymous system would be too open to abuse (heck, the first too).
- Some kind of "degrading cryptography"?
It may seem like defeating the purpose of cryptography in the first place, but assume that we don't want to keep the information secret forever, just for some years... not only do we not care if the information is revealed then, we DEMAND it is revealed at a particular point in time.
Is there some way to encrypt data such that it can demonstrably be decrypted only after X amount of time?
I imagine it would be extremely hard to figure out something like that, but maybe someone already has. I can only think of three approaches to not-depend on processor power, both perhaps impossible:
i) A method that collects information from some constant (data is reliable and at a constant rate) source of information (solar flares?) and needs to collect X amount of information before decrypting the key and revealing it.
The problem is that in order to ensure this information will make the decryption possible you have to be able to anticipate it. Then anyone can simulate the information at an accelerated pace and get to the key...
Maybe if we can use the key to select which information to process, and use a source of massive amounts of data, we can make unfeasible to accurately simulate all the data. But that would be trusting our current technical limitations to hold, wouldn't it? Unless we can prove simulating the source is an NP problem...
ii) Having a system that creates a unique algorithm for the key that needs to be run for X time in order to "degrade" to the key. The idea would be to escape the dependence on external information of the first problem. But even if it's possible, we would need to depend on an external source for a trusted "beacon" or "ticker" that tells how much time has passed.
iii) Perhaps the only sensible solution (and the last I thought of, obviously): Would it be useful to have digitally signed time measurement on the Internet? An atomic clock owned some trusted government or international entity that officially tells you "today is time X"?
You encrypt the key to be decrypted only when a message digitally signed by agency Y confirms a certain date has been reached. When agency Y makes the message "today is time X" public on the Internet, your boss gives that message to the system and the system pops out the password you need. "time X" and "agency Y" could (and would) be made public to all interested parties, but unless "agency Y" cheats, no one can do much about it.
This could also provide an automated means to publish confidential material whose confidentiality has an expiration date. Declassification would then not require too much work on the part of agencies that have no great interest in declassifying in the first place: once the time is reached, the keys are available and people can decrypt it.
Freedom is the freedom to say 2+2=4, everything else follows...
No it is not free or GPLed but here it ish tm?P roductNum=73
http://www.accessdata.com/Product73_Overview.
This was actually good news. in Norway we have two languages. The one that 90% use and "The Other (evil) Language".
These books are based on "TO(e)L" and have played a big role in "TO(e)L"s developement.
"TO(e)O" is constructed by Ivar Aasen and by some fscked up reason we now have two equal languages - and we have to learn both at school. School is just as boring here as elsewhere in the world. Try to imagine how it would be to have the class "Redneck" for three hours straight!
~/.sig
Why not have your system set up where the password has to be changed at a given interval. Say every Monday @ 10am. Come Monday the Password reverts to password until you change it to whatever you want. This way if you die they only have to wait at most 1 week to have the system unlocked.
"If these "hackers" are anything like the Linux people I know, Norway is screwed. You know what I'm talking about, they do the following:"
:-)
/. that you won't sound like a total idiot if you just toe the party line.
.iso that doesn't exist.
/etc by hand. When newbie leaves, continue to wonder why Linux on the desktop is taking so long.
.9.x for you to REALLY use it. You preach that Galeon is the best browser, even though it only loads .5 seconds faster than regular Mozilla.
a) Pretend Windows doesn't do certain things. ("You can run DNS with Windows?" "Do I need Trumpet Winsock with Windows XP?")
I'd look at mplayer. There's things you can do under that which MS WONT let you do under Windows (or atleast sue you into the ground). I regularly re-master WMV streams to mpg. There's no way you can do that under Windows (unless some crappy hax0r tool can...)
b) Downplay everything that sucks about Linux every chance you get. (TT fonts are "blurry", and "hurt my eyes" - I like my jagged fonts, I think linux fonts are fine!)
Nuh. Whenever I show friends Linux, I tell them good with bad. For some reason X fonts are shitty... We because it has beta TrueType cabibility and the standard fonts use something like 2/3 's the resolution of fonts in whindows.
c) Research every new Windows feature and figure out how *nix got it first. Then make it sound like the feature has been necessary for mission critical applications and servers, and that only recently has MS "figured it out". If a third party app accomplishes this in Windows, that doesn't count, even though your whole Linux distro is nothing more than a collection of third party apps to begin with.
Well for the longest time, *nix was the only way to go to have access to the hardware. Windows was nice that the ordinary user could use it. Linux/Unix WASNT made for the average user.
d) When Linux gets a new feature that Windows has had forever, downplay the feature. ("Yeah, TTF fonts, we got them now, if it'll shut you up, now that I have them, I don't see what the big deal is.")
And support still sucks. Even in KDE 3, transperancies were only added after people found out that WIn2k could. Pissed the KDE group off so they added that in to the 'make' list.
e) If anything in Linux doesn't have that feature, it is not important. ("Noone uses that junk in Office anyway")
Who doesnt hate clippy? Elsewise, Office is nice for template construction and integration between the subset office products. And that aside, why the hell does Office NEED to add 2 MB to the kernel code? I always watch my system (using a tripwire-like tool), and found that 'functionality'. What the hell is it?
f) You switched to Debian, but you still hate Red Hat because the copy Red Hat you tried 6 years ago sucked.
Red Hat was really cool before. 5.1 had an installation language choice 'Redneck'.
"Y'all put yer shiny frisbee into yer cofffee cup holder. Now yall gonna do a thing to that drive. We's gonna floormat yer hard frisbee"
Funny as hell
g) Pray everytime you try a new USB device - ditto for adding new hardware AFTER you've installed linux. Chicken out and use the PS/2 adapter, blame the hardware manufacturer.
If you're patient, you probably get it to work. USB mp3 players are really easy to get working.
h) Blame X11 for every graphical performance measure in your subsystem, even though you have no idea what you're talking about. Complain that X needs to be scrapped for something like Berlin, even though you've never even been to the Berlin website. But everyone says X11 sucks, you just don't know why, but enough people say it on
Used to suck... Now it actually has 3d and direct rendering support. The "X11 sux" argument is depreciated.
i) Doesn't matter if you install Gnome or KDE, your menu's are going to have 42 text editors, but not one decent word processor.
Yep, unless you delete all but your favorite.
j) Find a reason to hate GCC 2.96 even though you've never compiled anything in your life.
Well, even the SGI website says not to use it. Said that Red Had in 6.1 put a bad compiler (devel). That's a good enough reason to not touch it.
k) Doesn't matter if you install Gnome or KDE, because you're going to like Evolution, Konqueror, Kate, GVIM, Gnapster, and Koffice. you're going to like Gnome's applets, but the KDE panel. KDE let's you put a seperate background in each virtual desktop, but Gnome lets you mouse from desktop to desktop. Mozilla looks out of place in both. The one or two motif apps you use make you want to punch your monitor. You decide it's impossible to go with a 100% desktop either way or the other, so you say fuck it and just install them both and run twice the libraries that you need to. Now nothing is consistent, your themes don't match, and now you've got twice as much bloat in your system. When some asks you what you run, you say "GNOME, KDE sucks!" or "KDE, GNOME sucks!" even though you know damn well you don't care.
Like it matters anyway. Linux's worst problem is this lib mess. Your desktop is only scratching the surface.
l) You're too lazy to learn a new window manager, but when another *nix guy asks what you use, you say "FWVM, with nothing but xterms, that's all X is good for."
You're too old. However, if that would've said Windowmaker, it would have held true right now.
m) If it doesn't run well on your Pentium II 350, it's slow and bloated.
The only few things that shouldnt run well on a lower MHz chip is vid apps and idiot screen-crap like seti. Fuck seti. Vid apps rule (DVD rips with a few commands.).
n) Ten years from now, if it doesn't run well on your Pentium II 350, it's slow and bloated.
o) Blame Red Hat for attempting to destroy/take over the linux community, all the while searching for that SuSE
p) You hate Microsoft because Windows cost $200 and Office costs $400, and it's too expensive to be affordable and how you're poor blah blah, but you're too cheap to send $10 to debian.org/Mandrake Club.
Fuck that argument. Most linux users WAREZ windows, or get school rebates. The rebates are 5$ a cd. How do I know? I got them.
q) When you compare features between Windows and Linux, you compare Windows 95's features to the latest CVS builds of GNOME/KDE.
Some features in KDE/Gnome are great, while many are embarassing. Linux is a work in progress.
r) Make fun of DLL Hell in windows, even though you know damn well you --force your RPMs all the time.
Have to. Shoddy developers dont include correct dependancies. Then again, SO Hell is just as bad.
s) Your first answer to a new user in #linux is "recompile your kernel", even though all he needs to do is double-click the little icon his distro gave him. When someone else points that out, complain that real men edit
Computer IRC chat rooms suck. Most people in there are kiddiez trying to gain 'l33tn3ss' points. That includes treating you lik e-shit. Anyways, I was thinking about a root-only tool that would be able to modify all the config files GUI-fracially. Make it simple. While all the other "real men" are wasting tiome reediting config files by hand, I'll be playing games.
t) You wait for someone to ask how to install something so you can say "apt-get install foo", just so you can start on your 25 minute tirade on why his distribution sucks compared to Debian.
Yep, that's the standard on Slashdot. Look in my previous posts for the "Gentoo sucks" article I wrote. I got flamed to hell over saying how bad it was for modem users and why couldn't they offer up cd-images. The linux goons started to attack me saying how simple it is bla bla. They didnt even grasp the simple concept "I dont have enough bandwidth".
u) You believe recompiling everything from source will give you a substantial performance benefit, even though you probably just recompiled that app with the default flags, but you didn't know any better. If it doesn't compile, see GCC2.96 comment above.
Binaries is the first I go at. Still some yokel is using weird-ass libs that I dont have (and isnt stated). I end up downloading the source and having to wait 10 minutes to download. Then 10 more minutes for compile-time. --==snooze==--
v) When above user posts problems with GCC2.96, link to http://www.bero.org/gcc296.html [bero.org] and flame user for trying to compile "shitty code", even though a week ago, you were doing the same exact thing.
I'd rather teach about stupid mistakes instead of flaming.
w) You've been saying that Mozilla has been your only browser since M18, though you know that it took until
Mozilla is good enough for me. I dont use IE much, well not on slashdot. Thank the troll-diots for the crap-floods.
x) You hated Macintosh your entire life until you saw the bash console on a Mac at CompUSA. You feel kindred with MacOSX fans, but hate Apple because they won't let you rip off their user interface.
No, apple is cool cause they filched FreeBSD code. It's now "part of the gang". My opinion: if they want to charge 100$ for a floppy frive, they can rot in hell.
This is a quick translation of some of the technical bits in on of the articles - please excuse the bad english.
"The database is made around 1990 [...] The files are in dBase format version IV [...] There should be around 11.000 postings. It is hard to say anything about the quality of the database. We have the data files, but we do not have the right software to access the files. [...] We have 18 leafbooks(?) [ - 'Ringpermer' in norwegian] with printouts of all the postings in the database sorted after ID-numbers and not book-title. The database is stored on three floppy disks."
Some local IT-departments have tried to open the database files, but have failed, party beacuse the database have been password protected.
Do we have passwords protecting portions of our national treasures as well?
Your monitor is staring at you.
Does anyone remember that Simpsons episode where Homer and all the other SPringfield felons turn up at the local polica station to collect their "free boat"?
As cracked my good ole Leslie:
login : login
passoword : password
should work.
Voltaire: God is dead.
God: Voltaire is dead!
Castanza, you killed my mother.
This is not troll, I am a human and make funny jokes, haha.
In order to write the password for all secure places I have, I would implement a time password. I would keep in my will the formula to recreate my password. This way I can have a password as often as I want, that is unique, but if people know how often I change my password and when I died, they can deduce the pass. Of course said formula would be in a safe place.
Now I need to figure out a formula for all my passwords. Ohh I know newpass= oldpass, I really need to change my passwords periodically.
if they tried his middle name...
If I 0R?
The biggest problem is finding someone who will admitt that they knew DBase IV, and is will to use it again.
If only one person had the password to this supposedly "vital" information, I can't imagine all that many people were actually accessing it. If they were, the individual who knew the password would have done little else except unlock the archive for people. I doubt anyone so high up would have such a boring job. And if nearly no one is accessing the information, how important could it really be?
You see? You see? Your stupid minds! Stupid! Stupid!
you know, hes got a point.
He's right.
I knew we shouldn't have let thore Norsemen have their own king and all. This is what happens; they lose passwords left and right.
Besides, I'm sure that the password is just a misspelt danish word. I mean, c'mon, if you can't pronounce danish properly, don't go and call it something else, like Swedish or Norwegian...
Blearf. Blearf, I say.
do you know what you are talking about?
This sort of thing works both ways and the powers that be aren't going to learn that if you come to their rescue. They'll eventually figure out the password, but if you let them do it on their own, and you tell them why you aren't going to assist them then maybe, just maybe, they'll learn a lesson. Something about doing to others as you would have them do to you.
Prevent email address forgery. Publish SPF records for y
...is that the deceased was a Swedish operative. And as we all know, every Swede in the world uses the same password
borkborkbork
With Norway's barter based economy, how are they gonna pay the cracker who pulls this off? Five chickens and a pig?
How ya like dat?
"Of cultural interest" is more like it.
Bergen til eg dør
Imellom buskene vi stirret paa de
som minnet om andre tider
og fortalte at haapet var borte
for alltid...
Vi hoerte alvesang og vann som
sildret
Det som en gang var er nu borte
alt blodet...
all lengsel og sorg som hersket
og de foelelser som kunne roeres
er vekk...
for alltid...
vi har aldri levd
However, since I am using Windows, I doubt anyone will have much difficulty getting in :)
Would have been a nice use for a fingerprint or retinal scan. The login would still be accessible. Although, I wouldn't want to be the one to do it. eww...
The following info would help:
Combine that with the dictionary, mix well, apply cracking script and, most likely, open sesame.
As Richard Feynman used to say about safes, 99.9% of what keeps people from getting in is the perception of security, not real security. This from a guy who used to sneak in & out of Los Alamos at will during the Manhattan project.
The only tool you've got against psychosis is experience.
If you're reading this, then *BSD is dead...
Help find a cure for cancer!
I'd say to ask Jon Johannsen, but then the MPAA would just use it to prove that he's an Evil Terrorist Hacker(tm).
Fascism starts when the efficiency of the government becomes more important than the rights of the people.
Have they tried "password" yet?
To make a pun demonstrates the highest understanding of a language
What's the word for "friend" in Norwegian (or Elvish for that matter)?
12345 just like my luggage.
LA8PV
Baravelli: Who are you?
Wagstaff: I'm fine, thanks, who are you?
Baravelli: I'm fine too, but you can't come in unless you give the password.
Wagstaff: Well, what is the password?
Baravelli: Aw, no! You gotta tell me. Hey, I tell what I do. I give you three guesses. It's the name of a fish.
Wagstaff: Is it Mary?
Baravelli: Ha-ha. That's-a no fish.
Wagstaff: She isn't, well, she drinks like one. Let me see. Is it sturgeon?
Baravelli: Hey you crazy! Sturgeon, he's a doctor cuts you open when-a you sick. Now I give you one more chance.
Wagstaff: I got it! Haddock!
Baravelli: That's-a funny. I gotta haddock, too.
Wagstaff: What do you take for a haddock?
Baravelli: Well-a, sometimes I take-a aspirin, sometimes I take-a Calamel.
Wagstaff: Say, I'd walk a mile for a Calamel.
Baravelli: You mean chocolate calamel. I like that too, but you no guess it. Hey, what's-a matter, you no understand English? You can't come in here unless you say "swordfish." Now I'll give you one more guess.
Wagstaff: [To himself] Swordfish. Swordfish. [To Baravelli.] I think I got it. Is it "swordfish"?
Baravelli: Hah! That's-a it! You guess it!
Wagstaff: Pretty good, eh?
My guess is that if you decompile it (hackman or some other prog will do) you will find some comments by the programmer that might be usefull.
Anyways, I always thought it was a good practice to document your work/product. It's what makes the difference between an OK-job and a job well done.
a drop of ink can make millions think.
Ok you lost the password. There are other ways of getting back to the data and changing it then hacking the computer and compromizing security.
/etc/passwd and whipe out the * in the root password
1 You Take the Harddrive out of the PC/Workstation.
2 Put it on an other working PC/Workstation that you do have a password for.
3 Mount the drive.
4 Go in that drive
5 Put the hard drive back in the old computer.
6 boot it up.
7 loogin as root no password asked
8 change the root password
This is much simpler then having a person try to hack a password. in case if it is a good one could take a really long time to crack. Unless of course the guy who knew the password is the only guy in the country that knew how to move a harddrive.
If something is so important that you feel the need to post it on the internet... It probably isn't that important.
Let's hope they don't violate the DMCA by reverse engineering any copyrighted works.... Whoops... I forget this was Norway, a much saner society...
Out of my deep love and respect for the people of Norway, I return to you your history:
Click here.
Norwegian men, you may express your gratitude with international money orders. Norwegian women, please send recent photos.
password list, on a piece of paper, in safe deposit box, to which your boss has the key. Very simple.
... some sort combination of Windows, IE, Access, VB Script and IIS, I'm sure they wouldn't have to go public with the annoncement and just hack their way into it. I think that sysadmins should consider insecure data storage in the future in the case of their death.
Maybe I'm retarded, and it's certainly too late to be a helpful thought now, but... why was this information password-protected in the first place? Some things just ain't secrets...
Distributed.net
We get a client, we'll have the password in a couple days. No sweat.
-- "Government is the great fiction through which everybody endeavors to live at the expense of everybody else."
But have they tried "bork-bork-bork" yet?
--
"Outlook not so good." That magic 8-ball knows everything! I'll ask about Exchange Server next.
Finally a *GOOD* use for cracking. wooohoo !
.. muhahaha
Watch out that they don't get wise and turn around and sue you with the DMCA right after you've done their dirty work.
Museum : Thanks for cracking the password
FBI (decision after wiretapping) : Now go to jail for breaking DMCA
You : Mu*her F**Kerz !!(U*?:!
Hahaha. watch out, could be an evil plot by norway govt too.
An anonymous search engine has this to say about dBase password security:
Dbase III plus : 3745331-26
Dbase IV : KD712AA0000005
Dbase IV for Windows : DA712A1047458
Dbase IV v1.5 : WA711C10152190
Dbase IV v2.0 beta 2 : KD712AA0000005
Dbase IV v2.0 NL : WA712C50000000
Dbase IV v2.02 : IA 712A10518133
Dbase IV v5.0 for Windows : DA712A1047458
If it's Sex, Money, Love, or God.
INT: Courtroom, Day
Assistant DA: "The DNA evidence is indisputable!"
Defense Attorney Han Solo: "I object!"
Judge: "What grounds?"
Defense Attorney Chewbacca: "RAWWWWR" (Smashes table over Assistant DA)
Judge: "Let me suggest a new strategy...Let the wookie win."
"Bugger this, I want a better world." - Jenny Sparks
I'll bet the password is "JOSHUA". And if you get in using that password, just make sure you don't play "Global Thermonuclear War".
Johaness Kepler came up with his 3 laws which govern planetary motion or motion along an elipse due to gravity really. He needed to verify that his laws were correct but he didn't have the data to back up his claims. He knew an individual, Tycho Brahe, who had the data but was quite insistant on not giving it to Kepler. Kepler just wated for the dude to die (hehe, "waited") and then stole the data.
I wonder if the guy who died wanted the data to go away with him. I wonder if he thought he deleted the last remaining copys. I wonder if the stuff is just historical data.
Was this guy really just an independant expert who had no tie to the data?
Enough conspiracy theories, but I hope the people who decide to help out are wise enough to ask before they do the work.
Just for the sake of correctness ...
Password, procudures, etc... are *written* down and immediately put in a file which someone in the legal department then puts into your company's secure storage vaults (be they onsite or offsite).
--- I do not moderate.
It's a ruse! That password will get them some important secret info that they wouldn't otherwise have access to, all couched with a fancy cover story about some guy croaking without succession plan. It's my conspiracy theory and I am sticking with it! :)
If someone was interested in this data, they should have covered this kind of situation under a risk management plan. Hindsight being 20/20 and all that, they did not, and someone is now holding the bag. Because there is a file that is known to contain the data they want, they hold out hope that it will be salvageable.
:-)
In reality, this situation is almost the same as if a fire had destroyed the building along with the data, or even as if the person responsible for the data intended for it to die with him. There is a chance, however large or small, that the data will be recovered, but from a business perspective, an appropriate response would be to consider it a loss, start collecting the data again, and learn from the experience. Retrieving the data from the encrypted file is an interesting exercise, but one with uncertain results. Push the file into an academic circle and hope for the best.
In this case, having the file is misleading a management decision, because it appears as if they still have the data. In reality, they do not, unless an unlikely contingency occurs where someone can retrieve it. Since nobody seems to be able to put a delivery date on that retrieval, or even state the degree of cetrainty with which it can be retrieved, the correct business decision would probably be to consider it lost.
I'm guessing it's a loss not covered by their insurance.
This is a harsh assessment of the situation, and I'm only making it because I'm not the one with the data that needs to be recovered
Another thing I notice is that the party responsible for the data seems interested in limiting the number of people who will get the opportunity to try to crack this, as opposed to just posting the thing to the world as a challenge, perhaps with a reward to the first person to break it. Remember the King Arthur legend -- Arthur wasn't authorized to try for Excalibur!
The details in the article are sketchy. The title of the Slashdot article seems to be pretty misleading. The file in question doesn't contin the historical documents themselves, but an index to them?
I'm sorry to hear that a researcher has died in Norway.
-fb Everything not expressly forbidden is now mandatory.
All they do is every combination of word, in 27 languages, and combinations of upper and lower case, backwards, sidewides and any other direction you can think of. Well, this is all good and gravy until you come to a system that locks an account due to too many failed login attempts. Notice how they don't even say sorry if this happens, they simply don't take your money. Not too ingenius in my opinion.
It seems that Mr. Grepstad is consulting the wrong group of experts ...
Over my dead body...
the norwigen Mofia said that could be aranged
Now this is the gift that keeps on giving, and giving and giving one neuron at a time.
UN Peacekeepers were sent in to Scandinavia today to avert the escalation of an increasingly bitter round of invective between representatives of the area's countries. Tensions began to abate, however, as the traditional taunting gave way to the relatively modern sport of "USA-Bashing."
Milo
I didn't look for the particulars, but if physical access to the machine is allowed, the artcle should be about *how they did it*, rather than *who can do it?*. I've been judged to be too slow a study to work in IT or system administration(think of THAT stigma), but I know what I would do if I had physical control over that machine, or its storage devices...
Sometimes I wonder if slow isn't underrated.
you just think like the popular kids now because they've got you thinking you're accepted but they're really laughing just as hard at you when you're not around because now they've turned you against your own kind.
Norway, with its ~4.5 million citizens, has two written languages, and this archive contains important information relating to one of them - the one we don't need.
Just the thought of all the time I spent at school learning it makes me sick. Please do your part in helping future norwegian students to use their time for something useful. Don't help them crack this password! Please.
:-)
Who else but the Norwegian cracker most widely known to Slashdotters and Linux DVD watchers. (Maybe they'll give him a "Get Out of Jail Free" card in appreciation.)
Trollem mirabilem hanc subnotationis exigiutas non caperet
"Years ago, I picked a password that's random as hell and was very difficult to remember. No password cracker-- dictionary *or* brute force-- has broken it yet. I use this password on about ten systems."
:)
Methinks you better look up the definition of "brute force"
I browse at +5 Flamebait- moderation for all or moderation for none.
OK, so thousands (maybe millions) of pages of text may be lost to some guy who was a control freak and decided to compress and encrypt a database[0], but the short term benefits of this are not entirely being used. Anti-DMCA and Anti-Euro-DMCA, showing the world that 'hackers' (White, Black, Grey, Blue, etc...) are not the evil bane of existance of the Internet.
Granted, I'm not a fan of Norgys, particularly due to an IRC channel I'm on that has had to ban *.no because of constant "A/S/L?" and mass-msg "Hi, I am a cute girl from Norway, do you want to cyber?" messages... but the point being... there -is- the chance that the Norgys did something -GOOD- for once. What if this is a spoof, hoax, trick... a Library/Institution that decided that people do actually need hackers in the world to work on all those stupid problems that otherwise would go unaddressed because people are stupid and lazy.
Erm... maybe... then again, maybe not, and well - that's giving Norgys a lot of credit...
0. However to the best of my knowledge, dBase passwords are very easy to break
I cannot confirm nor deny the allegation or allegations you may or may not have just made
...Only the person who died was to lady who was in charge of the companies payroll. Fortunately, paychecks were issued every two weeks and they were able to figure out her password before the next pay day.
What I'd like to know is, why was it ...
... unless the Norwegians actually discovered ...
encrypted in the first place? An archive
of 16,000 books of Norwegian history doesn't
sound like sensitive material, unless
space travel around the year 600 AD and have
been communicating with aliens ever since
Cut back on the Ritalin. It is starting to harm you.
Gee, if I remember right, Johan Johansen's house got raided by the Norwegian police at the MPAA's urging (bribery?), after he posted the DeCSS code on his web page.
Now a "hacker" is being actively sought in Norway who will become a national hero if he is successful at cracking this archive password. Hmmm.
http://www.distributed.net/
Ask them to make another "password cracking" projects for this. And it will be cracked in 5 hours MAX.
Then it would be alot easier to get the password.
Too bad the Lone Gunmen aren't available.
Well I guess now we know where to find chrisd's password ...
Or do you hire a clerk to rebuild the database by looking through the books? At some point, that probably wins, at least to the extent that the indexing is mostly gruntwork rather than creative thought. That doesn't mean it's not worth posting the file to the web and asking for volunteers to hack it, which would be a fine idea.
A long long time ago, on an IBM System34 far far away, somebody out in the shop wanted to turn off his welder by flipping circuit breakers, and found the computer room before he found the welder, and the 34's quaint little operating system wasn't designed for that sort of thing; the open file which represented six or seven hours of typing by our accounting clerk got truncated to its last good state. I spent about 5 hours on the phone with IBM tech support doing the hexedit on the disk drive to find the right pointers and patch it so we could recover the file. If it had taken much longer, we'd have been better off retyping the thing.... But of course, sometimes you only know that in hindsight.
Bill Stewart
New Fast-Compression-only CPR http://preview.tinyurl.com/dy575ks
For a lot of computer users, in an organization especially.. the security policy's hassles and troubles are appreciated only when they face this kind of problem.
The website seemed to be inundated with volunteers/hackers to help... overloaded to thepoint where it can't serve the pages anymore.. hmm?
~keylock
But Linus Torvalds (look at that surname) is a Finnish Swede (or however you call that 6%).
Candian World Domination
...I meant to say that like a Gumby.
Surströming
People who eat this stuff leave Smalahovud for pregnant women and the elderly.
Surstroming is when you put herring in a barrel for a few months, bury it, let it rot, can it, hire a bomb squad member to open the tin, and eat it with lots of akvavit.
So dBase IV was created at JPL, which is run by NASA, and it contains a vital security flaw that means it can be hacked by simple software. Not surprising, huh?
Ah auh ahhh.. You didn't say the magic word..
Ah auh ahhh..
Ah auh ahhh...
I guess uncle Bill is pointing and laughing now, as he can tell them that if they had only used Windows NT (2000/XP for the more modern) technology, that they could circumvent the password by removing/renaming the SAM file... Ooops, did I just give away 2nd or 3rd easiest NT security circumvention method (and easily the fastest).
"Tattoo the password inside their body."
Cop: How did he die?
Coroner: He was shot three times, right in the password.
According to digi.no (norwegian article), the (encrypted DBaseIV) files will be published Thursday 6th on the museums homepage, Ivar Aasen-tunet.
Ottar Grepstad at the museum have received more than 100 e-mails and phone calls after the problem went public.
The article note the huge interrest in this case and give links to Slashdot and NewScientist.
These are the files:s e.zip
http://www.produktivdata.com/download/dba
The database has now been made publicly available on the following url:
http://www.produktivdata.com/download/dbase.zip
It it beeing linked from www.aasentunet.no in this article.
Tell them that its posible the data can never be recovered and they need to upgrade... Add a new hardrive install your favorite *nix*cough*Slackware*, kazoontite, then mount the ol drive and exclaim, hey look Linux comes with norweigen history, databases!
You can download the files from
u nc=list&table=CONTENT&func_id=20020606b&template=c ontent
http://webon.prodat.no/wsp/aasentunet/webon.wsp?f
Norwegian hardware site http://hardware.no [norwegian text only] is reporting that the database file [dBase IV] has been made available for download at: http://www.produktivdata.com/download/dbase.zip [2.9 MB] Some tips: -Social engineering has been tested so dont spam his relatives or the Ivar Aasen tunet museum -The password might contain the norwegian letters æ, ø, and å (possible not correctly shown on _your_ screen) so brute force or a dictionary approach might not be succsessful.. The solution/password can be sent to aasentunet.no (no im not putting their email out at slashdot) Good luck
Melius mori in libertate quam vivere in servitute.
But I believe we have something like that in Norway. Rakfisk. There is a risk it will develop botulism in the rotting process. Nasty, nasty stuff, too.
;)
Anyhow, this is all sad, sad stuff. People were starving, had some rotten fish or a sheep's head after a (bear|pack of wolves) ate the rest, and made the best of it. I just don't understand why well off people feel the need to eat these leftovers from historical lows in order to feel "Swedish" or "Norwegian". Christ, we're even corresponding in English
Stop the brainwash
Lutefisk.
Yes, it really is done. For the interested this is the first 200 rows of it http://www.student.hig.se/~na98jbr/bok.htm The formatting is crap but at least it shows that it's done. Took an hour to do but it was a fun challenge. Just hope they have some use for it. All 11106 rows of it.
digi.no has an article about the slashdot effect on Norway Post, sadly only in Norwegian.
Here's an attempt to translate the most interessting in the interview with Carl Eric Fuglesang of Norway Post:
After the article was posted on Slashdot Wednesday morning, Norwegian Post went down. Mr. Fuglesang tried to restart the NT server - unsuccessfully. This has happened before by server overload. It seems like it get's "corrupted" after beeing overloaded, says Fuglesang, that also states that he sat up until midnight with representatives from Microsoft trying to get the site up and running...unsuccessfully.
Now he's tired of the problems and want to change webserver.
Yes, we have to get new equipment. Normaly we don't have more than 20.000 hits per day, but we have old equipment and can't afford to upgrade.
Hmmm. It seems like he needs a _software_ upgrade if you ask me. Someone should send them a linux distribution.
- Lars Preben S. Arnesen
Good job. Please tell us how you did it:)
The password is: ladepujd (djupedal reversed). [and it is created by Norton Backup 2.0 or above, which took me a day to dig up] No big deal.
And who cares what a bunch of fjord-niggers think anyway?!
Password is found, and it was... 'ladepujd'
The guy's last name was Djupedal.
:-)
Jakob Breivik Grimstveit
"I love deadlines. I love the whooshing noise they make as they go by."