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Matrix Reloaded Filming Wants to Shut Sydney Down
ro_len writes "News.com.au is reporting the producers of the Matrix Realoaded are looking to shut down Sydney for the filming of the final scene which involves flying a helicopter across the city at less than 600 feet above ground. It is supposed to be the most complicated sequence ever filmed." Just plain nuts. Here is a
previous story about the trailer, and another one announcing the film.
What if it doesn't reboot? :O
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Sydney dude #1: What the..?
Sydney dude #2: Ack! The Matrix has us!
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What? You mean we're not in the Matrix? And that red pill I took was only Nyquil?
A cartoon draw-over would be original. Those matrix style movements are overused.
No wonder its taking them so long to get this movie out. How many years has it been since the first movie? And this one isn't out until next year.
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Who decided that? The movie company that is making it?
Sounds a lot like some PR mumbo jumbo to me.
I always thought this was the kind of stuff that CG effects were supposed to replace.
Personally, I like it, as I (and I'm sure many of not most people) can tell the difference between CG and real stuff.
Plus, the adrenaline factor should be fairly high, because you KNOW that it was done in the "real world" (tm), and not on come computer screen somewhere.
I can't wait to see it!
How much money in the form of opportunity cost do you think the city might lose?
Surely computer graphics these days are advanced enough to eradicate the need for real filming? Maybe this is all just a giant publicity stunt?
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If they can clear NYC Times Square they can clear anything.
There is no helicopter
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From the bottem of the article
Part three The Matrix Revolutions is also in production and will be released in December 2000
Sorry to have missed it...
isn't that what special effects, green screens and CGIs are for? i would be so pissed if the closed down philladelphia for two days, so some hollywood producer can make some money.
Ok, I am a fan of CGI,computers, cyberspave, hell it is what I do and a great love of my life. But shut down a city for Keaanu Reeves. Come all this from the guy that did Pointbreak. And a 50 other bad flicks.
Does Hollywood think he is the representative UBERGEEK of our generation? Come on they picked the guy from Bill and Ted to represent us?
If they are potraying us give me Tim Roth or Malcovich for the brains part. Hell I would settle for Pitt. But not Reeves....
But then again it could have been Wil Wheaton.
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With the CGI ability that we have, they should just create the whole thing in a computer and film the action on a blue screen stage.
Much safer, and you can do some impossible camera angles too.
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How about making the film makers pay all the taxes for those two weekends? Since citizens won't have full use of the city why should they pay taxes?
in the opening sequence! the movie still sucked tho :)
They must just be talking about the flight path and some margin around it.....
gee, I hope they talk to God and get a good weather day...
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From the bottom of the article :
Part three The Matrix Revolutions is also in production and will be released in December 2000
Not only are they filming the most complicated sequence ever, but they will be the first movie company to premiere a movie in the _past_. How they plan to manage the space/time disruption is apparently a closely guarded studio secret
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From the end of the article:
Part three The Matrix Revolutions is also in production and will be released in December 2000
Can I assume that Matrix Revolutions is actually a prequel and they decided to go one better than Star Wars by building a time machine so they could show them in the correct order?
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From the article: (you did read the article right?)
" Part three The Matrix Revolutions is also in production and will be released in December 2000"
Will be released in the past...Charming
According to the article Matrix Revolutions will be released in 2000? Huh?
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Isn't that what movie sets are for? Can't they rebuild a replica of the city they want on some backlot?
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Shut it down....shut it ALL DOWN!!!!
All they need to do is wait for a big sports event and place a huge tv screen just out of town and supply a lot of beer.
Supply enough beer and you've got all the time in the world. They won't be finding their way back in a hurry.
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It's common practice for parts of Los Angeles to be closed for movie making, even if the sequence is not that dangerous. When I lived there, there were several times I was unable to get to work or park once I arrived. At least once that I can remember, they shut down all of downtown. It is extremely annoying to have your life interupted for the sake of entertainment. I might have been more forgiving, though, had they been working on the Matrix!
Can I bum a sig?
They cannot manages dates correctly :
from the article : Part three The Matrix Revolutions is also in production and will be released in December 2000
I just hope the W brothers don't kill themselves in the process of trying to "out do" the original matrix. The two of them have already spent quite a few years to this effort. It's always tough when a director makes a really successful movie, because the expectation are set unrealitically high. If they manage to pull it off, they may become hollywood heavy weights. If they flop, it's going to be a costly blunder.
It's quite strange that to produce a complex scene they need a *real* environment. The Matrix and a bunch of subsequent movies had already shown that the scene can be created from scratch using computer gfx.
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From the article:
* Part three The Matrix Revolutions is also in production and will be released in December 2000
Two years ago!? Looks like a glitch in The Matrix!
Run, Neo, Run! (See Neo Run... oh, forget it).
Geoffeg
"News.com.au is reporting the producers of the Matrix Realoaded are looking to shut down Sydney for the filming of the final scene which involves flying a helicopter across the city at less than 600 feet above ground. ..."
Realoaded, eh?
Other "my whacky final scene is whackier than yours" ideas:
- Close down New York to make a film about 9-11, idea: actually fly airplanes into stuff, randomly. Pilots and crew: CIA, FBI and American Government officials.
- Close down Jerusalem to make the final scene of a movie about the Israeli+Palestinian conflict. Idea: a huge crane pounds Arafat and Sharon repeatedly against various religious monuments.
- Close down Paris to make the final scene of a film about the world cup. Idea: a giant soccer ball rolling around the streets with "losers" painted on, squishing right-wing partidaries.
- Close down a strip of territory in Kashmere to make the final scene of a film about the alleged India-Pakistan conflict. Idea: Nuclear warheads detonated on top of CNN reporters who claimed a nuclear war was about to happen, as if it was a light subject you can kid around with.
Apologies: I apologize for this post if you don't like it. It will avoid me getting into discussions later. Thank you.
Moita
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I wonder. Okay, let's assume for the moment that I have a billion dollars.
Stop laughing, and imagine, dammit.
Now, I saw Vanilla Sky. And I hated it, but that's besides the point. But there is a scene, with good old Tom, running through Times Square, and it's completely empty. There's another one in The Devil's Advocate, with Keanu on 5th Avenue, all alone, with no cars.
First of all, how the heck did they do that? I don't remember any massive, massive street closings. But let's say that, as with this Matrix sequence, they just shut it down, keep people out, and take pictures.
So, I have this billion dollars. Do you think I could rent say, Red Square, or some other major landmark, keep everyone out, just to stand around by myself and think, "Wow, this is pretty cool..."?
Of course, people who waste money like that probably won't have a billion dollars.
Yuk!
Does anyone ever check the spelling on the story submissions?
My Karma was at 49, then they switched to words. All that work for nothing!
Part three The Matrix Revolutions is also in production and will be released in December 2000
Damn, what cave have I been living in?
Guys... it's two too three streets being shut down, for a peroid no longer than two days. Buildings along George and Sussex streets are being evacuted for public safety reasons. Other than that, its business as usual in our fair city.
I repeat. They are *not* shutting down all of sydney.
Janie took my gun...
Just the area around the helicopter's flight path will be shut down. Still, that's quite a good chunk of the city. :) But it's nowhere near close to everything.
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Is it just me, but does the article give no reason at all why it has to be `shutdown'?
But it will probably go something like this:
Filmmaker: "We need all the people out of the city for two days."
Mayor: "That's not possible. We can ban jetskies from the harbour if you like."
Filmmaker: "No, we need the city, not the harbour. We are going to do some stunts there."
Mayor: "Sounds impressive, but what if all the people start riding their jetskies in the harbour instead of going to the city? I don't like that, and I've made it illegal already."
Filmmaker: "Please have a look at this script, it's specially printed for you on green paper with some transparent parts for the so called `special effects'".
Mayor: "It's a deal, I'll just make being in the city on these days illegal, except for people with jetskies. After all, they might go ride them in the harbour if they're not allowed to put them in the city."
People from Sydney should get the subtleties...
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I regularly fly around at 200 feet during the course of my job. 600ft is pretty high really, and certainly high enough for an above-average helecopter pilot to maintain control while flying down a wide city street.
...they also shut down the tube connecting the island city of Alameda, California, to Oakland several times for filming on weekend nights last year. I lived in Oakland and a friend of mine in Alameda at the time -- it meant driving 20-30 minutes out of our way both directions.
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I heard they wanted to blow up Baltimore for the filming of The Sum of All Fears.
Props to Newtown -- my favorite suburb.
Strange women lying in ponds distributing swords is no basis for a system of government.
I would like to see them shut down the city and film this sequence.
The Matrix introduced us to a lot of interesting filming techniques. I would like to see them continue that tradition in the next two movies.
Of course, it could also be a bug in the Matrix that was not caught by an agent.... not deja-vous, but something else entirely... unless someone did see the 3rd edition in 12/2000.... oh, man, I need some coffee now....
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In the beginning of the film Vanilla Sky with Tom Cruise, he runs around an empty Times Square. Word has it that Hollywood paid $3 million to shut down the most active city in the world for a few early morning hours.
But at the end of the day, I reckon them filming it is just a publicity stunt - that way they'll at least the entire population of sydney to watch the movie ("see, honey - that's where I work"), buy the DVD, get the action figure doll. Sure, it'd prolly b cheaper to do it all on the computer, but u can't buy people's sentimentality.
"I think it would be a good idea" Gandhi, on Western Civilisation
Sydney doesn't have income taxes. I could be mistaken.
... unless sufficient amounts of cash are provided? Principles aside though, I simply can't see how paying a realistic amount to compensate each and every business and individual displaced by this activity could work out as less than doing a kick ass CGI version of it.
Unless of course Sydney is working on the "First one is free" principle (or second one in this case), to make themselves look like a great (i.e. cheap, compliant) location for foreign film companies. Fair enough, but I'm kind of picturing how we might respond if (e.g.) a Bollywood company thought it could just breeze in and pay to have most of Detroit forcibly evacuated. "Get lost," springs to mind, along with stronger objections and possible a slew of litigation against the City.
As I said, it's up to Sydney if they want to turn themselves into a giant movie location, but I'd be surprised if it does their reputation as a business location any good.
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Personally, I'd prefer that a pilot would be mounted in the pilot's seat, considering how difficult the stunt is and all...
There is precedent for it in Australia. The film "On The Beach" managed to shut down Melbourne for a day so they could film deserted streets. That was in the 50's though, I think Greater Sydney is 4 million people now and has a thriving CBD ( Central Business District ). It would be hard to shut down Sydney.
mocom--
This is the matrix remember?
You know the movie that knocked Hollywood on it's ass with bitching CGI, not lame CGI like phantom menace.
Why where the FX better in the Matrix then in Phantom Menace?
Answerer, the filmmakers of the matrix realize that not every thing can be done with computers. Some shoots just look better when filmed with real sets not CGI blue/green screen sets.
... the most complex sequence ever...
1 - Claim to shutdown a major city for everyone's enjoyment.
2 - Get anyone to believe it without having to actually do it.
who said marketing was easy?
Sounds great. Of course, just the visual of a fly-through probably won't be enough for climatic battle sequence. They'll probably have Neo and Agent Smith duking it out mid-air or something like that. Certainly worth shutting Sydney down for. :)
Has anyone checked Keanus background ?
I hope his full name is not Keanu Bin Laden !
Hey, why don't you laugh ?
*g*
Does anybody know what company created the graphics? With what software?
Who told them theirs was the most important activity on the planet, and everything else has to get out of the way when they say "jump!"? Can't we tell them to fuck off back to the studio and leave our cities alone, or start paying us for the privilege of blocking our streets and hogging the good restaurants?
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Just this guy, you know?
Hollywood does some strange things for movies. The movie Field of Dreams was filmed in my hometown of Dubuque Iowa, and the field is but 26 miles away.For teh final scene fo the movie they wanted to have a line of cars, at night with lights on, stretching as far as possible. So, for a few hours, they had shutdown a rural road (not a big deal), half of one highway and half of another highway.
All for a snaking line of cars at dusk with headlights on.
Tell me computers couldn't have done that:)
For most of the last couple of years I worked on Clarence St right across from "Matrix Alley" as it has come to be called, just down the hill towards Darling Harbour from the QVB.
They shut down this part of the city regularly during the filming of the first one and this latest one, and it caused few if any problems, although one bicycle in the immediate area did go under during that time it had nothing whatsoever to do with the filming.
Of course it did wonders for productivity as we'ed crowd to the windows whenever some kind of limo/minivan would pull up to try and catch a glimpse of someone famous, all the while trying to be cool and say how we "weren't really that interested" and stuff. Heh.
Now that the "Eastern Distributor" is finished it's actually pretty easy to divert traffic out of the center of the city, so I really think the byline of "Shut Down Sydney" is going a bit far.
Sounds like a publicity machine in overdrive to me.
Wishful thinking?
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Why not just shoot the thing at 5 in the morning and digitially chop out any people that may be hanging around the streets?
Because Cameron Crowe got to shut down Times Square for a few minutes while making Vanilla Sky. The Wachowskis pissing match does not impress me.
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You're so cute when you do that thing you do.
You know all the geeks on here need the Matrix 2 because they're running out of Matrix 1 frames to jack off to.
I have been pwned because my
Isn't that what computers are for?
Did the Star Wars crew not create entire cities?
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Small airplanes routinely fly at 1000 feet above populated areas. Helicopters fly at a couple of hundred feet routinely, though they're not supposed to.
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This is definetly a publicity stunt. The entire city of New york was CG'ed for Spiderman.
This
btw, who else here is waiting for the matrix sequels w/ more expectations that they were Lucas' latest offering?
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Heh. Whatever. This is Philly, *every* building is a crack house.
It's all about costs. They *could* make a CGI or model version, but they probably thought a little palm grease would save them time and money.
If they get blown off for being too wacky/arrogant, then they'll look at whether to do models, CGI or a mixture of both.
Even with all the cash the Matrix made, they still need to avoid blowing the budget with this movie. I don't blame them for investegating this angle.
Damn why they gotta bring in that annoying girl Jada Pinkett Smith into this beautiful movie? I'm thinking about not watching it now that she's gonna be in it. >-(
I'm sorry, I can't read... I'm a retard, remember?
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I for one am sick of film crews in my city. They only have a marginal effect on the local economy (hotels, catering services) yet they disrupt traffic and prime shopping for days on end. Filming in my town? No thanks. Just say no.
They sure are taking this time phasing thing to a new level. Maybe Lucas could use this to finish Star Wars parts 7-9.
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Are you kidding? This is Russia we're talking about - not L.A. - it's cheap. Russians love hard cash and sending westerners up in their space capsules.
Does Miss Parker and the Centre know about this?
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Ah geez.. at least we know now that the world didn't explode by the end of the movie, and in fact, someone is flying a helicopter.. Thank taco for ruining the ending.
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You know, I am going to have seen this already, and it is willian on-coming to have been AWESOME!!!
For a project I was working on I wanted to do some shooting over Toronto at a height that would have worked out to around 400ft. They wouldn't let me.
The problem, as I discovered, is not an issue of whether it is safe to pilot at that altitude, but should some malfunction or other problem cause an emergency (or crash) landing. Legally (in Toronto anyway) the pilot must fly at a minimum of 1000ft in order to have enough altitude that (s)he can move the helicopter away from densely populated areas in the case of an emergency - rather than arbitrarily falling on top of whatever is directly below.
Now, in the case of a Sea King (the helicopter of "choice" for the Canadian Navy) I wouldn't want one flying at *any* altitude over a populated region. Something about 30,000 parts flying in formation that makes me nervous.
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Just put a huge supply of beer outside the city. The people will leave voluntarily and get too drunk to find their way back for several hours.
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All they need to do is put on a kegger at the beach. The city will empty itself!
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I can't believe people who post comments calling others "retards" are allowed to moderate.
So I couldn't take it any more. Here it is: The correct spelling in kashmiri is actually "kasheer", Kashmir is the Indian-language spelling, not the original, native spelling. The word "Kashmir" is derived from Sanskrit "Kashyapa + Mira" which means the sea lake or the mountain of sage Kashyapa.
Perhaps next time you want to criticize some one else's post you will at least take the time to research a bit and explain the mistake in a constructive manner.
Or are you, yourself, sir, nothing but a troll?
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I remember when they were filming Godzilla here in NYC. I was trying to get to work, and they had closed off 23rd street to shoot one of those "tons-O-fish falling from the sky" scenes. There were a bunch of us standing there for several minutes on rush hour, trying to get to work or school, and the one security guy holding us back. Then one guy decided to just keep going, and the whole crowd just marched ahead while the security guy kept trying to hold people back.
I wonder how many security guards they're gonna need to hold back a city's entire population.
Damn! I missed it!
December 2000? I wonder if it's out on DVD yet...
if they had taken a step back and done it with FF X quality characters.
. . . I missed it already?!
(Is it out on video?)
...will we finally get to see Neo's Geo?
... of the people losing public space to corporations. What about civil liberties and rights, such as assembly, etc.?
Is it reasonable that the government can make a deal with a corporation preventing citizens from assembling in vast parts of the city for a period of days? Is it reasonable that a corporation can rent a cities public and greenspaces for days?
Personally, I don't think its reasonable at all. If it happened in my home city, I'd quickly become a civil disobediant.
Support a few technologists in Washington.
Next time I'm up that way I'll take a drive through. Last time I spent way too much time down in the historical district. Though I've been modded down to -1 I asked the question in earnest.
Is there anything interesting in the NE area of Philly?
I have been pwned because my
It wasn't that long ago Auckland was shutdown without any power and Ansett no longer exists.
Just let them run Sydney for a while and it will be shut down for free.
Mind you, if you dug deep enough you could probably find a few Aussies that were in charge of these things also - so it is probably not such a big deal for Sydney anyways.
Just make sure you find a dodgy accountant to shred all the documents, pay of a few politicians and use white boards for anything you want to hind from FOI. Too easy...
Ummm, duh - they just change reality. Didn't you see the first one? Next time you get deja vu, run to the theaters so you can see the third part!
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Are they going to have to Reload Sydney aftwards?
All your Syndey are belong to us!
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It's quite simple really. :() means 'define a function called :'. The function definition is in the { and the }, and :|:& means run an instance of the function : in the background, and run the function again in the foreground. ; indicates the end of this command, and the : after it means run this function.
So what you have is a function that just spawns instances of itself into the background indefinately, thus 'locking up' your machine.
I shudder everytime I hear about "the most complicated special effect" involving a low flying helicopter.
...so obviously all other countries are unimportant. Shut it down, I want my movie. ;-) C'mon, this is my personal enjoyment we're talking about here!
...the producers of The Matrix will funnel cash through a front corporation to fund the re-emergence of Films88.com in Sydney, then tip off the MPAA. The MPAA will then shut Sydney down, and the camera crews will spring into action. :-)
If that doesn't work, Plan B is to have the BSA tell Sydney to 'prepare to have your software licenses audited'-- as we all know, that can basically cripple whatever entity it's aimed at for a while.
~Philly
Yeah, it's not as if they evacuated an office building so they could crash a helicopter into it in the first one.
It's rare that you're presented with a knob whose only two positions are Make History and Flee Your Glorious Destiny.
...and you could tell.
take note of the notes at the bottom and release date for Part III in 2000. Kick ass... how did this slip by /.???
Now to dissect it and decide whether to ban bash on shared servers :)
Uhh... yeah.
You really shouldn't be a sys admin unless you can understand painfully simple shell scripts. You also probably shouldn't be a sysadmin if a fork bomb is a brand new thing to you.
Perhaps you should read a book about unix?
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If you're gonna make a joke about a popular recreational watercraft, LEARN HOW TO SPELL IT.
Unreal.
since when was it one of the busiest cities in the world?
Though road closures will be a pain, I think most Sydneysiders (as we are called) are stoked about having our city exposed on the big screen... with surround sound too.
They shut down Tokyo to shoot the Times Square sceene?
Uh huh.
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After waiting this long that film had better go down on me, and swallow.
He's an American. Be gentle with him.
Sydney really isn't a typical city. The CBD is very small, it has few residents, and it's mostly cut off from the rest of Sydney by the harbour and parkland. Despite the council's efforts to make it a "Living City", it's still a ghost town on weekends, and those streets are empty.
;-)
Besides, this is a News Corp paper reporting on an AOL/Time Warner film. Nuff said!
Check out what else the Matrix crew have been doing in Sydney.
The last time I was Real Loaded, I paid dearly the next day...:)
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> You know, I am going to have seen this already, and it is willian on-coming to have been AWESOME!!!
Use of the transitive par-past-prefect in the first clause:
I am going to have seen this already
necessitates the usage of an entrance stative par-past-profect (note: profect!) when describing the status of the predicate, as in:
and it is willian on-coming to have been AWESOME!!!
should be changed to:
and it is willain on-coming to have been AWESOME!!!
I know it's subtle. And, it could have been a typo, but sometimes it makes all the difference in the world for intelligibility.
As my father lik@(munch munch)...
The door to my apartment is in a back alley that runs parallel to Queen St.; this is what US film crews use as a New York Double. I'm constantly tripping over them on my way in and out during the summer. They don't like *any* people walking around anywhere near the set, for good reason or no. At first I thought they were being dicks - after all, I live here. I had a friendly DOP explain it to me differently:
They stopped shooting in Chinatown after the residents there glommed onto the idea of banging pots and pans, and generally yelling their heads off, when a film crew was nearby. That way they would all need to be paid off, you see.
Considering the high-profile nature of The Matrix, and the inherit danger in the shoot, it's the only way to go. I'm assuming CG isn't an option, just considering the complexity of the shot, and the fact that the W. Bros. have access to everything just short of ILM, and didn't go that way. The economic benefits to Sydney outweigh the annoyance by far.
(Incidentally, I'm surprised at how many people caught the 'December 2000' typo, but haven't mentioned that the headline is wrong: this is a shot for Matrix Revolutions, not Reloaded... we won't see this fabled sequence until late 2003...)
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Give me a break.
My company provided security for that shoot. There were 12 plain clothes/off duty cops and four security advisors at every corner. The regular black and whites, thanks to 100K gratuity to the city, blocked traffic, and NYPD staffers brought in barriers and all.
I really doubt you were there in the least. In fact, the one time someone notably pushed the line, they were arrested and held overnight for psych evaluation at my request since our staff cordially tried to stop their incursion first.
From the news.com.au report:
Now *that's* going to be an expensive stunt!
In order to make a film about a er.. simulated world, they insist on using a real helicopter and a real city.
:)
George Lucas creates entire worlds in CGI, and these guys need to shut down an entire city just to film a helicopter flying?
Scene from the "making of" feature:-
Producer: (wakes up, eyes open) "I know CGI!"
What next? 'Disney paints Amazon rainforest in cartoon colours to film "Lion King 5" '
Still ROFL from this one
Damn, missed it.
Hey Commander Taco, what kind of Jackass posts an article that basically describes the final scene of an upcoming movie. Thanks for for the spoiler alert moron.
Hmm--I think every movie I've seen was premiered in the past. Am I missing something?
In fact, they won an academy award for technical achievement for filming from radio-controlled helicopters.
For teh final scene fo the movie they wanted to have a line of cars, at night with lights on, stretching as far as possible. So, for a few hours, they had shutdown a rural road (not a big deal), half of one highway and half of another highway.
All for a snaking line of cars at dusk with headlights on. Tell me computers couldn't have done that:)
Well I seriously doubt computer CGI effects done back when that movie was filmed would have been able to match up to the rest of the look of the film. It wasn't Star Wars, you know...
But speaking of that scene, if you listen to the commentary on the DVD, the director tells how the cars weren't actually driving down the road. Because they couldn't coordinate that effectively, they just used the local radio station to tell everyone to start turning their lights on and off repeatedly. When viewed from far away, it had the effect of looking like the cars were slowly driving down the road.
Also the "Field of Dreams" in the movie was actually mostly dead grass. While filming, they had to repeatedly spray paint it green...
"And like that
Think about how they destroyed Tokyo over and over for various movies. Sure it's fun to watch Godzilla put his foot through an apartment complex, but probably less so when you're in it.
The Matrix is renamed Part III, The Matrix Revolutions. In a couple of decades we will see Matrix I, The Phantom Matrix.
Producer: Watch out for that helicopter!
Sydney Gov: What helicopter?
Producer: That helicopter!
Sydney Gov: How did you...
Producer: Oh, what's really going to bake your noodle later on is, would we have filmed the scene if we hadn't said anything!
The Matrix Reloaded producers want to fly a helicopter at a death defying 600 feet off the ground! in Sydney and someone said "You'd have to shut down the whole city to do that.
They did a lot more cooler stuff with a bus and a helicopter in Swordfish, in LA. Without shutting the city down.
The Matrix Reloaded will be released next May
Part three The Matrix Revolutions is also in production and will be released in December 2000
Wasn't the year 2000 like a few years ago?
It isn't a lie if you belive it.
There's millions of square kilometres of open space in Australia, and they have to shut down Sydney?
Not good enough. If I was living there, I would be complaining quite loudly.
I am serious, and not call me surely.
The article says "Part three The Matrix Revolutions is also in production and will be released in December 2000"
Creationists are a lot like zombies. Slow, but powerful and numerous. And they all want to eat our brains.
not kung fu movies!
We can make allowances for "chick" "kung fu" movies.
where's the webcam already ?
Mod both those up. Obscure Douglas Adams references always win.
(Profect or Prefect?)
Kevin Fox
Spider-man was a great movie, don't get me wrong, but it's not like the computer graphics fooled anyone over the age of 5. And I don't just mean the obvious impossibleness of the stunts, I mean the way the movements and animations just looked plain wrong. Computer graphics are an astounding thing, but the more complex you get, the more noticeable the artificiality becomes.
"Prejudice is wrong; you should hate everyone the same."
Oh c'mon, that's bullshit you're talking. Have you seen Spider-Man? Remember the last shot in the entire Film? Swinging through a NYC street way down below Cab-level and up again 30 stories in 3 seconds... these were CG fx, man, and they looked absolutely real!
If they're closing town the city, then the movie producers should be paying the CITIZENS, not city hall. It is the citizens that are being hindered by this filming, it is they who should be compensated for their trouble. And NO, free passes to see the flick don't count!
-Billco, Fnarg.com
I'm not sure about that. Maybe the hard-core geeks would, but remember the original Matrix where the helicopter crashed into the building? That blew my mind, and I NEVER thought about the CG-based nature of it.
I think it's the people who use CG badly who end up giving a bad rap to the use of CG in general, and make us cringe at the thought of the gratuitous use of CG (like, say, to make creatures such as Jar-Jar). The people who use it well really have nothing to worry about.
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Bleah! Heh heh heh... BLEAH BLEAH!!! Ha ha ha ha...
I am starting the Matrix Linux Project. When it reloads, we are going to hijack it and see if we can get Linux to run on it. Anyone else up to the challenge?
; )
"On a long enough timeline, the survival rate for everyone drops to zero."
Um. What if it rains?
The (pessimistic) Pi
Alot of computers in Sydney will be losing their long uptime. :P
Pixels keep you awake!
Based on reading the article it seems more like a block or two would be shutdown (and on a weekend, in the business district to boot). Not really that big a deal. It happens in other cities like LA, NY, and Boston fairly regularly.
This immediately raises the question: Where in the movie is an episode of The Prisoner playing?!
I *finally* found the answer on Jen's Matrix FAQ
I wonder what movie references Matrix 2 and 3 will include?
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"Every person you meet has two things to teach you.
Something about other people, and something about yourself"
- Anonymous
The RIAA is petitioning the Australian parliament to ban this.
Look what happened to Mogadishu ("Blackhawk Down") when they shut it down to let those 'copters fly low
Those people STARVED
WARNING: Smartphones have side effects--most of them undocumented.
you fucking rule.
From the News.com.au article:
The Daily Telegraph has learned the helicopter will include a camera mounted in the pilot's seat, giving the moviegoer a bird's-eye-view as the aircraft whizzes across the city.
I REALLY don't understand what is so amazing about this. You want to see a "special-effects" stunt where a camera gives the viewer a bird's eye view, turn on your tv in the morning, and watch the traffic report.
Why, if it's possible to create a living dinosaur, is it too hard (or expensive) to create a computer model of the city?
and you can destroy a computer-city if you want (and the plot requires it). Also you don't have to insure your model or shur it down for two days.
I just wonder why....
Privacy is terrorism.
clear streets (you just have to make the free beer available INDOORS ONLY). Times Square is significantly more difficult to work with than Sydney.
You do realise that the chief of Air New Zealand at the time they jettisoned Ansett was an Australian, don't you? :)
This is of course to avoid it coming out on the internet before it comes to theaters.
Did the CGI created cities not suck?
If anyone gets in the way of the filming, they just sue them for copyright infringement (don't watch the helicopter, you pirate scum).
Seriously, though, it's not really _that_ much of Sydney, just the CBD. Still close enough for me to watch the action from just near work though!
guns don't cause anything....violent sociopathic people cause violence. Any other reason is merely trying to shift blame away from our failures as humans and citizens to help those mentally, physically, socially, or financially disadvantaged. (The most likely candidates for violent crime)
And do you really think a killer without a gun is going to say "oh just forget it"?
Weren't they finished with shooting this movie? I thought they were just working on overdubs and effects.
There's around 4 million people in greater Sydney. If it was in the States, it would be approximately the tenth biggest city. Not even the MPAA or the Wachowski brothers can shut down a city that size just for the hell of it :)
Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from a rigged demo
--Andy Finkel (J. Klass?)
This is so ironic: that a movie about how what we know is real is shutting down what is real--Sydney, Australia--to film a social commentary about what is fake, or real and unrealized. Maybe these effects can't be done with CGI or maybe this is going to be really cool, and maybe the next Matrix movie will be some incredible social commentary on how controlled our lives by unseen forces, but it is taking away from these peoples daily lives. According to this plan, and disrupting these peoples lives, they are fighting exactly what Neo is trying to fight: bigger forces that dominate for no acceptable reason. It is quite impossible for me to fathom why the Australians would submit to this plan. They are being dominated, controlled, having their lives screwed with by larger forces that are equally as futile as they are--they are submitting to a corporate monopoly on the unwitting plebeians who do nothing more than churn out money and fuel a larger system of nothingness. Maybe the Matrix producers are making a great social commentary not with their impending film, but with their plan to harvest the lives of these people for their own use, under the guise of some matrix of entertainment.
If you are blaming anyone, blame the Howard government equally, they did SFA to help out ansett and they have significant investments in qantas...
Yes, but those were the movies you have seen. Anyone can have seen something in the past. The trick is to will see something in the past. That's just as hard as having seen something in the future.
Firstly - they are shutting down 3 or 4 streets in one little corner of the Sydney city (there are 3 other central business districts in Sydney). It's only going to affect 10,000 office workers or so.
:)
Secondly - it's a good spot, some of the nicest(architectually) highrises in the world live in that little corner of Sydney so I'd be proud to have them shown.
Thirdly - If they pay the council lots and lots of money to help improve the city then good. It won't affect me anyway I work across the harbour
Stupid damn sport. Almost as bad as TV.
So, they then asked the people who ran the City Council. (This would be The Outfit.)
According to John Landis, the news was presented to him as, "Bad news, we got the permission to do the scene."
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Towards the end of the article:
# Part three The Matrix Revolutions is also in production and will be released in December 2000
Is it a glitch in the Matrix?
They wouldn't do that to Sydney, too much of a buddy to the US. Iraq, Afghanistan and Vietnam seem to be more appropriate for creating some late night entertainment. (Although the general consensus is that the plot for Vietnam sucked.)
Microsoft - Where would you like to go today, Maybe Jail?
Luvvies, you don't understand. A someone who has lived in Sydney for the last 3 years, (and is now thrilled to be leaving) let me tell you that Sydneysiders are desperate for their sad polluted city to be perceived as a "world class" one (the most commonly used Sydney phrase). Why they have this desire, God only knows. But their state premier, mayor, every politician would crawl over broken glass to meet any demand of a Hollywood filmmaker. Or any corporate pimp who promised them exposure.
You, sir, kick ass. :)
Every year, some streets of Sydney are shut down to cope with the City - to - Surf Fun Run.
It starts early on a Sunday morning (usually in August) and is all over by lunch time at Bondi Beach.
Everyone is pre-warned about the event for weeks, but there's always some D*H* who can't figure it all out and tries to drive in.
So the only difference I can see with this one is they want to shut some streets down for longer.
Where are my mod points when I need them, funny and possibly insightful!
That's Sydneysiders to you!
Don't be so fuckin' sensitive. You don't know this guy was a Yank, (sounds like a Pom to me) and secondly if you read what he actually wrote it implies that the major cities where he lives are called 'prisons'.
All ya gotta do is smoke it mon! Den ya'll understand!
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y shoudl they help ansett, they broke cuz of their own problems not the goverment. So the government doing SFA was the right thing to do, private business problem, got nothign to do wiht the government
Well, they've blown up the whole of an unused power station, they've already done filming on some of the freeways in Sydney which were blocked off for a few hours. Hell, I say bring it on... I could use a few days of work anyways....... or I could go into work and do my own filming of the occasion
I'm guessing that they have micheal J. fox on
retainer in one of his old roles.
I remember when Apple was first pushing Firewire, they had someone from ILM (I think it was ILM) show the falling knife shot from Mission Impossible. He had made a 3-D model of the prop to create a shot of the knife tumbling throught space to land stuck in the computer desk in the super-secure room in the CIA.
Anyway, what blew me away was that it wasn't a super complicated chase scene, fight scene or explosion that they were using CGI for. It was just a complicated shot of an ordinary object. And when I first saw the movie, I never suspected it.