Sales in the USA are more important than Japan, Genesis never sold in Japan and N64 didnt sell well in Japan until late in its life and only because of pokemon.
PS2 cant keep up in the graphics department, cant keep up in the price department, or the games department with Nintendo.
Ps2 can keep up with Xbox but this is America and Microsoft has too much influence here.
I expect Gamecube to lead in the USA.
Xbox to be second.
Ps2 to lead in japan but fail in the USA.
Why? PS2 has games, but so do all the other systems.
Sales werent the problem, Its lack of third party support, Third parties dont like to develop for multiple consoles anymore, and Microsoft, Sony and Nintendo all had more money than Sega.
For the same Reason Microsoft Dominates the PC, and Apple is in the position they are in, is the reason why Sega couldnt survive, Sega had less money than everyone, even a few developers like EA have more money than Sega.
Sega Dreamcast sold well. Sega however always does bad in Japan and good in the USA and this is where Sega seems to look (oh we arent selling in japan, lets scrap this system, who gives a damn if it sold 9 million units in the world, it sold 500k in japan)
Nintendo however has the money to pull an N64, N64 did way worse than dreamcast however, Nintendo has gameboy to fall back on, Pokemon, etc etc so if N64 didnt sell Nintendo didnt lose money but gained it.
Sega just had Dreamcast and nothing else, Dreamcast was losing money and Sega was and maybe still is on the verge of going out of business.
Sega was in first place and actually the Dreamcast still has more units Sold than PS2, Xbox and Gamecube.
The problem isnt selling the units, Its the fact that Sega didnt have the money to compete with big companies like Sony and Microsoft who were buying Developer support left and right.
Sega was losing third parties because SEGA didnt have the money to keep them. Third parties dont like to hang around a company which is bleeding money left and right, They prefer the stability of a Microsoft or Sony.
Sega couldnt make enough money off of Dreamcast on their own, and unlike Nintendo Sega didnt have enough money to save dreamcast on their own, Sega was in debt.
Sega had no other choice but to kill Dreamcast, not because Dreamcast wasnt selling, or Because Dreamcast was a bad system, but because Sony, Microsoft and Nintendo left no third parties for Sega. Money is made on game sales mostly from Third Parties.
Xbox is in the same situation as PS2, but Xbox is more powerful, and Microsoft has more influence in the USA.
Xbox will survive. This isnt a question. Because with enough money a failed console survives.
Sega didnt survive not because their console didnt sell, Sega didnt survive because Sega didnt have the money to compete with the likes of Sony and Microsoft, When Xbox came into the picture thats when Sega called it quits.
Xbox is taking the Market that Dreamcast was going after.
What do you expect? Look at the ads on TV, they are just a billion trillion times better than any I've seen. Then look at the price, its cheaper. Then look at the games like Luigis Mansion, Metriod Prime, Starwars. And even if these games all suck, we know two things.
1. They are better than the average Xbox game.
2. The ads make each game look like its the next coming of christ or something.
Xbox has crappy ads which look as bad as Sega and their Dreamcast ads.
Xbox needs better games and better marketing for the few good games they do have. Lastly to compete with gamecube Xbox would need a cheaper price tag.
As far as hardware goes, PS2 went for all polygons and no textures and is barely better than Dreamcast.
Dreamcast went with good textures, low polygons, and PS2 was able to hype up 60 million polygons per second and make Dreamcast sound cheap.
What Nintendo did, was alittle of both, Polygon power thats 12 million polygons per second, which is twice the power of the Dreamcast.
And 64 megs of ram, This is more ram than any other system and not just any ram but FAST ram.
Nintendo realized the quality of rendering, and the special effects are more important than the pure polygon power.
PS2 has better special effects and you see it in certain games, Theres a new water racing game for the PS2 which has the most realistic water i've ever seen, photorealistic and definately better than wave race. Problem is, while PS2 games have better physics, the color quality is horrible. Metal Gear Solid 2 the best game PS2 has to offer right now, clearly lacks color and textures, and this is why a game like Shenmue on the dreamcast actually looks more realistic. Color and Textures are very important, not just physics.
Xbox has the most potential hardware wise, A pentium 3 which can be used for Physics and a high quality graphics chip, However Gamecube is easier to program for, so while Xbox has the potential to destroy the game cube, right now Gamecube games look better simply because its easier to right them, so with Xbox you have an almost Sega Saturn style system which gives programmers too much power
and while Microsoft makes good development tools, we have yet to see what Xbox can do and most likely wont see what it can do for a couple of years.
So why do i believe Gamecube did everything right?
Cheap, Its cheaper than all the competition.
Marketing, It has some of the best commercials I've ever seen.
Power, while Xbox may be more powerful, Gamecube has better looking games.
I expect Gamecube to outsell all systems this year and Next year and perhaps be the console to Dominate. If the Marketing remains at this level, and Xbox doesnt get some good games fast, I dont think Gamecube will have any serious competition. PS2 is still in the picture, but they better have an ace up their sleeve or they will go the way of the Dreamcast.
Duh. if you want it to work you'll have to pay. Else its not going to work.
You have to get this out of your mind, that programmers need to eat too. If you want anarchy online, then subscribe and tell all your anarchy online friends to subcribe, and vote for anarchy online.
Until then, Anarchy online is going to stay way way down at the bottom of the list because the people subscribed want Black and White, and Starcraft working perfectly along with Civ3.
Regardless of the gaming community, Transgaming is more than this, Transgaming is a model, a new way for open source projects and companies to make money. It is very important that we prove the successfulness of this Model by support Transgaming.
Transgaming is not for the current people using Linux, its more for the Windows users who will soon be switching to Linux. Transgaming will make them switch, Once they switch, Game developers will make games which will actually sell.
You see, if a developer sees millions of gamers using Linux, the developer has an option, make a Linux version, or let these people use the Windows version with transgaming in which transgaming makes the money.
However with millions of gamers in Linux, theres also going to be more gamers who want NATIVE ports, who will buy the Native Linux port instead of the Windows port, or who will buy both.
So the Transgaming market really has nothing to do with Loki porting games. Last Loki has proven their model is not going to work, people need games quick, quantity sometimes is more important than quality.
The last thing I want to say is, right now the most important thing you can do as a Linux support is to support transgaming. By supporting them, if you arent a coder and want to contribute to Linux, now is your chance. IF you are a coder, you can help build an Economy up so you actually have a chance at making money for your Linux projects.
If Transgaming is successful, KDE, Gnome, Xfree86, and other important projects may do the same thing. This would give us more influence over the projects, it would give programmers money they deserve, and EVERYONE in the Linux communiy not just the programmers would be able to contribute.
This is GOOD for the Community, and its an issue more important than gaming.
Who have the Windows version and who dont want to buy the same Game TWICE!
Think about that.
Theres a market for Wolfenstien, that Market is to Linux users of today. The Transgaming Market is for Linux users of tomorrow, who have a windows game and dont have the money to pay twice.
I'm Subscribed, I will tell you why they licensed safedisk.
Windows games use safedisk, in order to run them you need Safe Disk for Linux.
Also, about shareholders, If this style economy works, You'll be able to subcribe to KDE, to Gnome, to any project you want and essentially you'd become like a share holder.
So I suggest you do you part, Subscribe to transgaming, its only $5 a month so I know you can afford it, even if you dont play games, if you want Linux to be successful, do your part. If you cannot contribute code, stop being a greedy bastard and subscribe.
TO programmers contributing code to actual open source projects, How would you all like to get paid for this? The only way is to subscribe to transgaming, prove to the world that people can make money from open source, and in the future you may be able to make money in the same way.
Transgaming is Legit, I'm subscribed, If theres ever going to be an Open source economy, This is it folks.
It gives you far more freedom than buying products from a store.
First you get to vote on the features and on what the programmers do, so essentially you have the power of an investor moreso than someone who goes to a store and buys a license to run some software.
Second, after you pay, its released and YOU own the code, however it takes 20k people for this to happen so i suggest you all help this company out.
People who dont play games should still subscribe, while you may not pay games, if you want other Linux projects to be funded in this way, then you need to first prove this method works by supporting it.
So do your part and perhaps it will help the open source economy, tis only $5 a month so unless you are some kinda penny pinching greedy bastard you can afford this.
Please tell me how you know so much about China? From American TV? YOU know as much about China as Bin Ladens Followers Know about America.
Some people PREFER communism. Sure a few million Oppose, but Billions in China prefer it. The older population in China, the population which controls China Prefers Communism.
Just like the older white male population who controls the USA, Prefers this style of government.
Theres flaws in this style and flaws in Chinas style.
Capitalism exsisted before the USA, but the USA is built on capitalism, Capitalism is the center of society in the USA. Capitalism and the Economy.
Communism works too, give China some time.
Before you talk about how bad Communist countries treat their people, Look back at how Capitalist America treated people for the first few hundred years, Slavery, Forcing Natives to build railroads, etc etc, The USA was built on the backs of slaves, China has no slavery, so while communism is rough at first, Capitalism is just as bad if not worse.
In order for a country to be built, people must suffer, in Capitalism, the poorest people in the country are the ones who build it up.
In communism, everyone equally builds up the country.
Theres benifits to both ways but fact is, to build up a country, things like this happens.
Why dont you ask someone whos Chinese what Chinas about, It pisses me off to see Americans assume they know what other people think about their countries.
I think USA should not try to force every country to be like US. You see, Thats why people like bin laden hate us, not because we are free, but because we try to force other countries to be like us.
I say let China be China, eventually they'll find an identity, and become a more free nation, yet presure their culture.
You see, China thinks Culture is more valueable than freedom. Sometimes the cost of freedom, is the destruction of culture.
Chinas Culture according to older Chinese government people, is becoming too American. They dont want China to become like America, They want China to be China. I respect them for that, If they want to censor the internet, and seperate the internet so they have their own Chinese internet, They have a right to do this, This is the kinda freedom that they want. They want to be independent, not depend on the USA for ANYTHING.
When you understand this, You'll have respect for China even if you may not want to live in their country, you can look at China and see the culture wasnt completely ruined by American Capitalism like some other countries we can take a look at.
Such as Africa, Japan, a few places in the middle east, If you look at these countries, they are slowly morphing into a smaller version of America.
This is the man who started this entire movement. IF someone is using the GPL, or has a name for a product beginning with GN or GNU, Like GNUtella or GNOME the very least they can do is give GNU and RMS the respect he deserves for laying down the ground floor.
While i dont believe RMS is always right, he is right about one thing, Gnome is a part of the GNU system, or else it wouldnt be called GNome and use the GPL.
Second, Linux is part of the GNU system as well.
Now, Linux isnt requires to rename itself to GNU Linux, However GNU Linux, Is Linux. Linux is part of GNU and Free Software Movement. As Long as Linux is GPL, its assosiated with this.
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Shouldnt we be actually trying to build houses so when the over flowing population of earth needs to go up there they can?
Land on the moon is more valuable than you think considering when people actually do move there you'll own land and will be able to charge insane prices
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Sony has the weakest System.
Sales in the USA are more important than Japan, Genesis never sold in Japan and N64 didnt sell well in Japan until late in its life and only because of pokemon.
PS2 cant keep up in the graphics department, cant keep up in the price department, or the games department with Nintendo.
Ps2 can keep up with Xbox but this is America and Microsoft has too much influence here.
I expect Gamecube to lead in the USA.
Xbox to be second.
Ps2 to lead in japan but fail in the USA.
Why? PS2 has games, but so do all the other systems.
Ps2s price is expensive, yet its the weakest.
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The Sega Genesis only sold 16 million systems.
Poorly? 10 million systems in 2 years?
Sales werent the problem, Its lack of third party support, Third parties dont like to develop for multiple consoles anymore, and Microsoft, Sony and Nintendo all had more money than Sega.
For the same Reason Microsoft Dominates the PC, and Apple is in the position they are in, is the reason why Sega couldnt survive, Sega had less money than everyone, even a few developers like EA have more money than Sega.
Sega Dreamcast sold well. Sega however always does bad in Japan and good in the USA and this is where Sega seems to look (oh we arent selling in japan, lets scrap this system, who gives a damn if it sold 9 million units in the world, it sold 500k in japan)
Nintendo however has the money to pull an N64, N64 did way worse than dreamcast however, Nintendo has gameboy to fall back on, Pokemon, etc etc so if N64 didnt sell Nintendo didnt lose money but gained it.
Sega just had Dreamcast and nothing else, Dreamcast was losing money and Sega was and maybe still is on the verge of going out of business.
Sega was in first place and actually the Dreamcast still has more units Sold than PS2, Xbox and Gamecube.
The problem isnt selling the units, Its the fact that Sega didnt have the money to compete with big companies like Sony and Microsoft who were buying Developer support left and right.
Sega was losing third parties because SEGA didnt have the money to keep them. Third parties dont like to hang around a company which is bleeding money left and right, They prefer the stability of a Microsoft or Sony.
Sega couldnt make enough money off of Dreamcast on their own, and unlike Nintendo Sega didnt have enough money to save dreamcast on their own, Sega was in debt.
Sega had no other choice but to kill Dreamcast, not because Dreamcast wasnt selling, or Because Dreamcast was a bad system, but because Sony, Microsoft and Nintendo left no third parties for Sega. Money is made on game sales mostly from Third Parties.
Xbox is in the same situation as PS2, but Xbox is more powerful, and Microsoft has more influence in the USA.
Xbox will survive. This isnt a question. Because with enough money a failed console survives.
Sega didnt survive not because their console didnt sell, Sega didnt survive because Sega didnt have the money to compete with the likes of Sony and Microsoft, When Xbox came into the picture thats when Sega called it quits.
Xbox is taking the Market that Dreamcast was going after.
What do you expect? Look at the ads on TV, they are just a billion trillion times better than any I've seen. Then look at the price, its cheaper. Then look at the games like Luigis Mansion, Metriod Prime, Starwars. And even if these games all suck, we know two things.
1. They are better than the average Xbox game.
2. The ads make each game look like its the next coming of christ or something.
Xbox has crappy ads which look as bad as Sega and their Dreamcast ads.
Xbox needs better games and better marketing for the few good games they do have. Lastly to compete with gamecube Xbox would need a cheaper price tag.
Nintendos done everything right.
As far as hardware goes, PS2 went for all polygons and no textures and is barely better than Dreamcast.
Dreamcast went with good textures, low polygons, and PS2 was able to hype up 60 million polygons per second and make Dreamcast sound cheap.
What Nintendo did, was alittle of both, Polygon power thats 12 million polygons per second, which is twice the power of the Dreamcast.
And 64 megs of ram, This is more ram than any other system and not just any ram but FAST ram.
Nintendo realized the quality of rendering, and the special effects are more important than the pure polygon power.
PS2 has better special effects and you see it in certain games, Theres a new water racing game for the PS2 which has the most realistic water i've ever seen, photorealistic and definately better than wave race. Problem is, while PS2 games have better physics, the color quality is horrible. Metal Gear Solid 2 the best game PS2 has to offer right now, clearly lacks color and textures, and this is why a game like Shenmue on the dreamcast actually looks more realistic. Color and Textures are very important, not just physics.
Xbox has the most potential hardware wise, A pentium 3 which can be used for Physics and a high quality graphics chip, However Gamecube is easier to program for, so while Xbox has the potential to destroy the game cube, right now Gamecube games look better simply because its easier to right them, so with Xbox you have an almost Sega Saturn style system which gives programmers too much power
and while Microsoft makes good development tools, we have yet to see what Xbox can do and most likely wont see what it can do for a couple of years.
So why do i believe Gamecube did everything right?
Cheap, Its cheaper than all the competition.
Marketing, It has some of the best commercials I've ever seen.
Power, while Xbox may be more powerful, Gamecube has better looking games.
I expect Gamecube to outsell all systems this year and Next year and perhaps be the console to Dominate. If the Marketing remains at this level, and Xbox doesnt get some good games fast, I dont think Gamecube will have any serious competition. PS2 is still in the picture, but they better have an ace up their sleeve or they will go the way of the Dreamcast.
the point of subscribing is to pay for what does not work already
If you dont subscribe they may not have money to continue their work.
For marketing reasons, It would be bad for the company.
I support transgaming. I dont want them to show numbers that may be in the hundreds.
When they get about 10,000 then they should show numbers.
Duh. if you want it to work you'll have to pay. Else its not going to work.
You have to get this out of your mind, that programmers need to eat too. If you want anarchy online, then subscribe and tell all your anarchy online friends to subcribe, and vote for anarchy online.
Until then, Anarchy online is going to stay way way down at the bottom of the list because the people subscribed want Black and White, and Starcraft working perfectly along with Civ3.
Regardless of the gaming community, Transgaming is more than this, Transgaming is a model, a new way for open source projects and companies to make money. It is very important that we prove the successfulness of this Model by support Transgaming.
Transgaming is not for the current people using Linux, its more for the Windows users who will soon be switching to Linux. Transgaming will make them switch, Once they switch, Game developers will make games which will actually sell.
You see, if a developer sees millions of gamers using Linux, the developer has an option, make a Linux version, or let these people use the Windows version with transgaming in which transgaming makes the money.
However with millions of gamers in Linux, theres also going to be more gamers who want NATIVE ports, who will buy the Native Linux port instead of the Windows port, or who will buy both.
So the Transgaming market really has nothing to do with Loki porting games. Last Loki has proven their model is not going to work, people need games quick, quantity sometimes is more important than quality.
The last thing I want to say is, right now the most important thing you can do as a Linux support is to support transgaming. By supporting them, if you arent a coder and want to contribute to Linux, now is your chance. IF you are a coder, you can help build an Economy up so you actually have a chance at making money for your Linux projects.
If Transgaming is successful, KDE, Gnome, Xfree86, and other important projects may do the same thing. This would give us more influence over the projects, it would give programmers money they deserve, and EVERYONE in the Linux communiy not just the programmers would be able to contribute.
This is GOOD for the Community, and its an issue more important than gaming.
Which means you buy Linux games AND you subscribe to transgaming.
Supporting transgaming supports alot more than games, its also supporting a new open source economy which could be used for alot of other projects.
Who have the Windows version and who dont want to buy the same Game TWICE!
Think about that.
Theres a market for Wolfenstien, that Market is to Linux users of today. The Transgaming Market is for Linux users of tomorrow, who have a windows game and dont have the money to pay twice.
I'm Subscribed, I will tell you why they licensed safedisk.
Windows games use safedisk, in order to run them you need Safe Disk for Linux.
Also, about shareholders, If this style economy works, You'll be able to subcribe to KDE, to Gnome, to any project you want and essentially you'd become like a share holder.
So I suggest you do you part, Subscribe to transgaming, its only $5 a month so I know you can afford it, even if you dont play games, if you want Linux to be successful, do your part. If you cannot contribute code, stop being a greedy bastard and subscribe.
TO programmers contributing code to actual open source projects, How would you all like to get paid for this? The only way is to subscribe to transgaming, prove to the world that people can make money from open source, and in the future you may be able to make money in the same way.
Transgaming is Legit, I'm subscribed, If theres ever going to be an Open source economy, This is it folks.
It gives you far more freedom than buying products from a store.
First you get to vote on the features and on what the programmers do, so essentially you have the power of an investor moreso than someone who goes to a store and buys a license to run some software.
Second, after you pay, its released and YOU own the code, however it takes 20k people for this to happen so i suggest you all help this company out.
People who dont play games should still subscribe, while you may not pay games, if you want other Linux projects to be funded in this way, then you need to first prove this method works by supporting it.
So do your part and perhaps it will help the open source economy, tis only $5 a month so unless you are some kinda penny pinching greedy bastard you can afford this.
Please tell me how you know so much about China? From American TV? YOU know as much about China as Bin Ladens Followers Know about America.
Some people PREFER communism. Sure a few million Oppose, but Billions in China prefer it. The older population in China, the population which controls China Prefers Communism.
Just like the older white male population who controls the USA, Prefers this style of government.
Theres flaws in this style and flaws in Chinas style.
Capitalism exsisted before the USA, but the USA is built on capitalism, Capitalism is the center of society in the USA. Capitalism and the Economy.
Communism works too, give China some time.
Before you talk about how bad Communist countries treat their people, Look back at how Capitalist America treated people for the first few hundred years, Slavery, Forcing Natives to build railroads, etc etc, The USA was built on the backs of slaves, China has no slavery, so while communism is rough at first, Capitalism is just as bad if not worse.
In order for a country to be built, people must suffer, in Capitalism, the poorest people in the country are the ones who build it up.
In communism, everyone equally builds up the country.
Theres benifits to both ways but fact is, to build up a country, things like this happens.
Why dont you ask someone whos Chinese what Chinas about, It pisses me off to see Americans assume they know what other people think about their countries.
I think USA should not try to force every country to be like US. You see, Thats why people like bin laden hate us, not because we are free, but because we try to force other countries to be like us.
I say let China be China, eventually they'll find an identity, and become a more free nation, yet presure their culture.
You see, China thinks Culture is more valueable than freedom. Sometimes the cost of freedom, is the destruction of culture.
Chinas Culture according to older Chinese government people, is becoming too American. They dont want China to become like America, They want China to be China. I respect them for that, If they want to censor the internet, and seperate the internet so they have their own Chinese internet, They have a right to do this, This is the kinda freedom that they want. They want to be independent, not depend on the USA for ANYTHING.
When you understand this, You'll have respect for China even if you may not want to live in their country, you can look at China and see the culture wasnt completely ruined by American Capitalism like some other countries we can take a look at.
Such as Africa, Japan, a few places in the middle east, If you look at these countries, they are slowly morphing into a smaller version of America.
Perhaps some country dont WANT this?
When it comes to stuff like this Linux is way behind.
While Linux has KDE and Gnome, and Linux is easy to use, it lacks little nice extras that OSX and WindowsXP has.
Someone needs to start an open source project which purpose is just to create specific effects for the linux desktop.
From what i hear its difficult and requires editing Xfree86, well lets do it.
Start a project, and if you want to get paid, then ask for donations, Ill donate 5 bucks (if everyone else did that same we'd have a product)
This is the man who started this entire movement. IF someone is using the GPL, or has a name for a product beginning with GN or GNU, Like GNUtella or GNOME the very least they can do is give GNU and RMS the respect he deserves for laying down the ground floor.
While i dont believe RMS is always right, he is right about one thing, Gnome is a part of the GNU system, or else it wouldnt be called GNome and use the GPL.
Second, Linux is part of the GNU system as well.
Now, Linux isnt requires to rename itself to GNU Linux, However GNU Linux, Is Linux. Linux is part of GNU and Free Software Movement. As Long as Linux is GPL, its assosiated with this.
Shouldnt we be actually trying to build houses so when the over flowing population of earth needs to go up there they can?
Land on the moon is more valuable than you think considering when people actually do move there you'll own land and will be able to charge insane prices
If you hear noise while dreaming and you know you are dreaming, You know its a noise "OUTSIDE" of the dream.
If you dont know you are dreaming, then it might work.
That is my point.
If someone lucid dreams then this wont work.
Its stupid though, The brain has infinite space, unless you have some sorta disease where you lose your memory you dont need a harddrive.
Theres no computer which even comes close to matching the human brain at all except for perhaps math and logic.
And as far as brain to computer interface goes, hooking directly up to braincells is just not the right way to do it, I dont think its practical.
Seems like Mods here are abusing their power again