USA never EVER had 99 percent literacy rate, stop pulling numbers out of your ass.
Slaves couldnt read, native americans could read but not in the right language, and alot of poorer people couldnt read properly.
The 99 percent literacy rate is impossible.
show me some urls with stats proving it. Prove this country ever had this so called capitalist utopia, what next? will you deny slaves did all the work to allow this so called utopia to exist and that somehow slaves werent considered american, neither were the peasants who came from ireland or any of these places who couldnt speak english either.
you need a history lesson. There has always been a class system, always been peasants, and people never did anything for the common good EVER except maybe spread religion.
Thats assuming everyone has 2 middle class parents. Thats not true, alot of people make minimum wage, with no tax money they'd have to spend more money, because these people leech from tax dollars ot pay for health care, school, even food.
you stupid fool, do you know how expensive private school costs to a single parent family compared to free public school?
Bad credit? Maybe if credit weren't so readily available, people would learn to save. How do you poor people save? Rent and Taxes takes all their money.
We need to put them in ghettos not suburbs. ChinaTown? China Town is a Chinese Ghetto, I think the other Ghettos need to catch onto this idea.
Non Asians who arent rich usually dont have a computer.
You live in Chinatown so I already know you arent rich, perhaps you have a computer but my point is if these little clubhouses were everywhere it would help alot of these kids who have no parents watching them.
Go ahead, but your libertarian soiety cannot work in the real world, people just arent responsible enough for it.
So when your state has the highest crime rates and lowest education standards blame yourself.
Fact is, you cannot educate the masses without public education, and you need police not militias, not to mention the more people are uneducated, the more crime you'll have, lets not forget about homelessness, and if you even think CEOs in your state will pay fair wages you are insane, so sure you sen programmers and upper level management guys can live there, but what about 90 percent of everyone else whos the working class? They depend on public schools, health care, and this safety net which you plan to get rid of.
because most professors are leftest, face it, theres no liberal conspiricy, if you believe in the left wing conspiricy what about the right wing conspircy? who killed jfk?
They already are cutting jobs, alot of jobs were loss due to computers, however the jobs loss created more jobs because people had to install, repair and operate the computers.
By removing the operators but not replacing it with anyone else, where will the jobs come from?
Ask the majority of americans if they like napster, gnutella, freenet and the internet, the majority will say hell yes, especially the college educated ones youth.
Ask the select few who own patents, the elite musicians who are the top 1%, the CEOs and they'll be for copyright.
Currently I believe the majority of Americans want information to be free, if they didnt, well they wouldnt be using napster by the hundreds of millions, they wouldnt be sharing information so freely.
"Western legal systems have recognized the right of content creators to control the distribution of their works for some time now. If you have a problem with this, move somewhere that doesn't respect these rights. "
No I'm not going to move, how about all the copyright owners move out?
Look, there was once a time when we needed record companies to distribute art, now we dont, adapt and move on.
Censorship is when anyone says you cant say something. This means when you say I cant share someone elses patented information, well thats censorship and I dont agree with it.
Capitalism does not rank higher than Freedom of speech. A few hundred thousand people out of the hundreds of millions of Americans will be jobless, a few elite musicians will have to earn their money from now on, but for the majority of people in this country, this will be good.
No more over priced CDs. No more over priced college books. Everything will be shared, if something isnt worth anything, you just wont make any money.
If people like what you make, people will keep paying you so you continue to make stuff, if you write good books people will pay you to write new books.
Without intellectual property, what we would be left with is services business, information services instead of selling information.
Honestly, I'd rather pay a cable company to access channels of information, pay to go on the internet and get the whole internet etc, Than pay per website, pay per TV show, pay per CD when i only want to hear a song.
In the USA we are busy trying to censor Napster,Kazaa and programs that are peer to peer.
We are no better than China.
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What you said about innovation only happening when theres incentive,
thats bullshit, all of the innovation thats ever happened in any industry usually happened on college campuses, and all of our math, music, art, and alot of other things were created without any form of copyright or IP.
Linux was created without any IP, the incentive to create informaiton is, its fun to create it, and because you need to create it.
What else would a person do with their time besides do what they enjoy? And creative people enjoy creating stuff, this is why musicians will always exist even if the elite ones dont, this is why there will always be art and has been art before the copyright laws, this is why math was around in egypt and since before that even though people didnt "own" that math which we now "Stole"
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USA never EVER had 99 percent literacy rate, stop pulling numbers out of your ass.
Slaves couldnt read, native americans could read but not in the right language, and alot of poorer people couldnt read properly.
The 99 percent literacy rate is impossible.
show me some urls with stats proving it.
Prove this country ever had this so called capitalist utopia, what next? will you deny slaves did all the work to allow this so called utopia to exist and that somehow slaves werent considered american, neither were the peasants who came from ireland or any of these places who couldnt speak english either.
you need a history lesson. There has always been a class system, always been peasants, and people never did anything for the common good EVER except maybe spread religion.
Thats assuming everyone has 2 middle class parents. Thats not true, alot of people make minimum wage, with no tax money they'd have to spend more money, because these people leech from tax dollars ot pay for health care, school, even food.
exactly you cant work when you are 12 years old, and even if you can work at 14, you cant work full time, by the time you are 16 its too late.
you stupid fool, do you know how expensive private school costs to a single parent family compared to free public school?
Bad credit? Maybe if credit weren't so readily available, people would learn to save.
How do you poor people save? Rent and Taxes takes all their money.
Private school is just too expensive.
Borrow money? not everyone has good credit!
Stupid? No, people arent stupid but school is expensive.
Will workers stay at jobs that pay unfair wages? Yes if thats the only jobs that exist.
We need to put them in ghettos not suburbs. ChinaTown? China Town is a Chinese Ghetto, I think the other Ghettos need to catch onto this idea.
Non Asians who arent rich usually dont have a computer.
You live in Chinatown so I already know you arent rich, perhaps you have a computer but my point is if these little clubhouses were everywhere it would help alot of these kids who have no parents watching them.
They'd be safer online than on the streets.
Go ahead, but your libertarian soiety cannot work in the real world, people just arent responsible enough for it.
So when your state has the highest crime rates and lowest education standards blame yourself.
Fact is, you cannot educate the masses without public education, and you need police not militias, not to mention the more people are uneducated, the more crime you'll have, lets not forget about homelessness, and if you even think CEOs in your state will pay fair wages you are insane, so sure you sen programmers and upper level management guys can live there, but what about 90 percent of everyone else whos the working class? They depend on public schools, health care, and this safety net which you plan to get rid of.
Capitalism is currently leading to Socialism anyhow, big companies, big government, class warfare.
It would improve the social enviornment in the USA, and give kids a place to go.
so how do we know its a point?
3.1 is just a stability release, im waiting for 3.2
Ive spent 3 days straight playinng games, sometimes going days with no food, just drink.
You cannot share CDs with friends.
because most professors are leftest, face it, theres no liberal conspiricy, if you believe in the left wing conspiricy what about the right wing conspircy? who killed jfk?
So if this stereotype is true why should we listen to unedcuated conservatives?
Republicans caused 911 in the first place.
They got involved with the taliban during the cold war.
Its open source, Redhat can do what they want.
They already are cutting jobs, alot of jobs were loss due to computers, however the jobs loss created more jobs because people had to install, repair and operate the computers.
By removing the operators but not replacing it with anyone else, where will the jobs come from?
They will never let everything be free, they will be richer and we will be jobless.
and more money for rich CEOs.
Let us control the machines, what the hell are we going to do once they control themselves?
Ask the majority of americans if they like napster, gnutella, freenet and the internet, the majority will say hell yes, especially the college educated ones youth.
Ask the select few who own patents, the elite musicians who are the top 1%, the CEOs and they'll be for copyright.
Currently I believe the majority of Americans want information to be free, if they didnt, well they wouldnt be using napster by the hundreds of millions, they wouldnt be sharing information so freely.
"Western legal systems have recognized the right of content creators to control the distribution of their works for some time now. If you have a problem with this, move somewhere that doesn't respect these rights. "
No I'm not going to move, how about all the copyright owners move out?
Look, there was once a time when we needed record companies to distribute art, now we dont, adapt and move on.
Censorship is when anyone says you cant say something. This means when you say I cant share someone elses patented information, well thats censorship and I dont agree with it.
Capitalism does not rank higher than Freedom of speech. A few hundred thousand people out of the hundreds of millions of Americans will be jobless, a few elite musicians will have to earn their money from now on, but for the majority of people in this country, this will be good.
No more over priced CDs.
No more over priced college books.
Everything will be shared, if something isnt worth anything, you just wont make any money.
If people like what you make, people will keep paying you so you continue to make stuff, if you write good books people will pay you to write new books.
Without intellectual property, what we would be left with is services business, information services instead of selling information.
Honestly, I'd rather pay a cable company to access channels of information, pay to go on the internet and get the whole internet etc, Than pay per website, pay per TV show, pay per CD when i only want to hear a song.
They prevent you from sharing information with others, thus censoring you.
Yeah protect the few monopolies by now allowing the majority to share.
Exactly like China and Censorship to protect their government.
In the USA we are busy trying to censor Napster,Kazaa and programs that are peer to peer.
We are no better than China.
By the way
What you said about innovation only happening when theres incentive,
thats bullshit, all of the innovation thats ever happened in any industry usually happened on college campuses, and all of our math, music, art, and alot of other things were created without any form of copyright or IP.
Linux was created without any IP, the incentive to create informaiton is, its fun to create it, and because you need to create it.
What else would a person do with their time besides do what they enjoy? And creative people enjoy creating stuff, this is why musicians will always exist even if the elite ones dont, this is why there will always be art and has been art before the copyright laws, this is why math was around in egypt and since before that even though people didnt "own" that math which we now "Stole"