Any coworker who said they couldn't do their job clearly just took the opportunity to slack off and blame in on the evil computer. If you can manage to click the big shiny "Desktop" button on the start screen, then you can use Windows 8 the same way you use every previous version of Windows.
I've been using both Windows 7 and Windows 8 since December and I still don't understand this "learning curve" is.
Step 1: start the computer (bonus: it doesn't even require as much patience as a Win7 boot) Step 2: Look at the Metro start screen and start flinging your feces like your primate brethren ("I don't like change!") Step 3: Click the big button that says "Desktop"--complete with a picture of your desktop--and everything's back to normal
I didn't even need to go out of the way to download MSE, since windows defender already includes in now. If anything, the start screen is just an extended start menu that can hold more than a dozen shortcuts.
I don't do it because I'm not interested in biology. Same reason I'm not a car mechanic or a plumber, which both also pay well. My lack of interest in studying for 7 years to inject morphine into patients says nothing about the ease of doing so.
And your thoughts had nothing to do with the reality that was presented to you afterwards. The US spends over twice the OECD average per capita on health care, yet ranks 37th in performance. 1/6 of the country doesn't even have any type of insurance, and even more have poor insurance, neither of which are magically negated by the fact that you're a doctor and therefore must know what you're talking about. A reasonable person sees when they're wrong, and stops doing the same mistake over and over again afterward (voting for the party ignores this and panders to social conservatives instead).
Drawing any lines in a state is absurd. If 50% of the state votes for one party, then 50% of their representatives should be from that party, and same if it's 60% and so on. And 1st-grade math will show that Maryland's case (which is still wrong) is the exception, since the overall Congressional layout shows 201-234 in favor of Republicans, despite the voter turnout being 49.0% - 47.7% in favor of Democrats, so don't try to make a false equivalency out of it.
Blah blah blah, I'm not really interested in responding to more of your anecdotal experiences, or in humoring the delusions of an anesthesiologist who thinks his line of work requires any more intelligence than a kid with a calculator and formula sheet (but kudos to being smarter than someone who can't open their mouth correctly), so I'm just going to respond to the very last thing you said regarding health care: It's not as simple as just expanding Medicare. The US already spends more on public health care (i.e. Medicaid and Medicare) than most other OECD countries spend on both private AND public health care, so it should be pretty clear that there's more to do than simply expanding coverage. Pharmaceuticals need much stronger pricing regulations, as do hospitals (which I'm well aware means a lower salary for you); regular check-ups also need very low price ceilings, since there's a strong correlation between the cost of a country's average hospital visit and the frequency that that country's average citizen visits the hospital. Saying "I'm a doctor" doesn't automatically make up for you not knowing any of this.
You can disagree with this all you want, since I'm sure you've gotten used to making obscene amounts of money for monotonous work, but that doesn't change the fact that it's what every other -developed- country in the world does.
Also, what do you have against increased education and infrastructure spending? Lower college cost means less people needing government assistance, and more public transportation means billions of dollars saved in oil costs, GDP lost to unpredictable traffic jams, reduced suburban sprawl, and even less people needing government assistance.
Spoken like someone who doesn't understand that disagreeing with the constitution means that you don't understand the constitution. The only reason anyone would say we don't have a real democracy as though that's a good thing is because they're the minority group (Republicans) screwing over the majority (Democrats).
What about the poster's comments hinted that they didn't understand that part of the constitution? I understand it, I just fundamentally disagree with it because he's right; it's an outdated, inefficient way of governing that leaves room for disgusting levels of abuse via gerrymandering, which is why a majority of people in Pennsylvania voted Democrat, yet only 5 of their 18 representatives are actually Democrat. On a larger scale, it's why more people voted Democrat that Republican (49% to 47.7%), yet Democrats only won 201 House seats while Republicans won 234.
So when you say that Congress represents specific groups of people, it sounds like you don't understand basic math.
Can't say means-testing social security is on the table for many Democrats, but I can say that cutting our outrageous military spending is. There's also universal health care (which is the reason every other OECD country ranks much higher than us and pays half as much per capita), increasing education spending so less people need government assistance in the first place, investing in more reasonable infrastructure like high-speed rail and public transportation like the rest of the developed world, and actually doing something to minimize the effects of global warming rather than pretending it doesn't even exist simply because those politicians won't live long enough to deal with the consequences.
Also, generalizations regarding which states get the most retirees are hardly the strongest argument for why certain states receive more tax dollars, since most retirees stay right where they are. Those states are welfare states because they have terrible/nonexistent public service planning, even by US standards.
There are your reasons to stop voting for the same party that panders to Jesus freaks (and also tries their best to obstruct everything in the first paragraph).
I replaced an old 27" monitor with a 21.5" Samsung, to the dismay of my whole family. It's a huge improvement. Larger screens just become hard to look at after a while.
Maybe you should try sitting down with the marketers, artists and executives all at the same table and have them all come to an agreement right there instead of being antagonistic and letting basic things drag out for months. If any business really gets this bad, that's a failing of ALL involved employees.
It's worth noting that the massive earthquake needed to disable that nuclear plant also caused several oil refineries to outright explode. And the nuclear "disaster" was also largely overblown; none of the cleanup crew working INSIDE the plant has shown any sign of health issues, and the evacuation was a safety precaution that American "news" networks squawked at and circled like vultures and sensationalized into the start of the zombie apocalypse (4 days away, btw).
Even if nuclear energy WAS as terrible and evil as some people (i.e. oil companies and the people they fool) like to say, no amount of nuclear radiation in a few concentrated waste areas would be anywhere near as ecologically disastrous as the worldwide effect that CO2 emissions given off by oil and gas.
So I seriously hope the LDP restarts Japan's nuclear program. Closing it in favor of importing oil was one of the biggest environmental crimes in history.
What is there to even complain about productivity-wise with Windows 8? It's EXACTLY the same after you press the Start button. And it boots up significantly faster than 7. Most importantly, only Windows 8 supports development of Metro programs, which should be reason enough for you to upgrade if you're only using a computer for work.
Isn't hacking a hate-spreading website also an act of speech? If "donating" money to politicians is now an act of speech, I fail to see how telling the WBC to go screw themselves isn't an act of speech. Shame on you for acting like everyone should be all hugs and kisses with these kinds of hatemongers.
You're downplaying Ubuntu's huge impact on drawing ordinary, non-tech-savvy people toward Linux. Its influence dwarfs every other distro's. You mention other prominent distros, but when you actually ASK other people (who aren't programmers) who have just adopted a Linux distro what they use, they don't answer "Debian" or "Arch" or "Mint," they answer "Ubuntu." Your own solitary opinion on Ubuntu or the FSF doesn't matter.
I don't THINK my generation is better than my parents'; I KNOW it is. Note the lack of self-imposed racial segregation in most schools. Checking your phone mid-conversation might be rude, but you know what's much more rude? The racism, homophobia, and overall bigotry your generation showed (and in many states continues to show). You can pull the "you'll see in 20 years" card, but you must realize that even with that taken into account, our faults are much smaller than your generation's.
And please, even 4channers know 4chan is the ass of the internet.
Those "young 'uns" take longer because they're new to real-world programming. You were exactly the same, except the software YOU worked with was nowhere near as large as what younger programmers have to familiarize themselves with. And the fact that they have to sift through legacy code written by people as close-minded as you only makes it harder. It takes a special kind of stupid to criticize your kids' peers like that, as though they're expected to have your 30 years' worth of experience right out of college.
Honestly, I'm GLAD the the worst thing you can say about my generation is that a few of us have picked up some rude habits. You know what we can say about YOUR generation? That your peers are/were:
-bad parents that led to those rude habits -racists -homophobes -less educated -hypocrites (high taxes when you were getting the services, low taxes now that we need them) -cluelessly ruining environments around the globe, for slightly cheaper fuel and other products
I could go on, but I think you get the idea. I'd take the occasional inattentive classmate over the common racist classmate any day.
But seriously, though, you must not be in America, because medical care isn't considered infrastructure here. And the rest of what older generations have left for my generation is pretty laughable. Transportation is horribly inefficient pretty much anywhere outside NYC because all the baby boomers need their own McMansion with their own lawns and gardens, most likely tended by the same people they say should be deported. So now the tallest buildings in most cities are two-story houses, and it's impossible to simply go get groceries without a giant gas-guzzling 5-to-8-seat car that you only drive in alone/with one other person 99% of the time.
And educational quality is horrible in the US for 2 reasons: bad/absent parenting and politically-connected textbook publishers (both of which are, again, on older generations) that put profit ahead of textbook quality; and don't forgot the massive tuition rates my generation is having to pay just for the CHANCE of making a comparable salary (adjusted for inflation) to what our parents made without a degree 30 years ago.
And then there's the retirement age, which is pretty much going to be stuck at 65 for the next few decades so everyone currently above 50 gets to retire by then, effectively contributing to the economy for maybe half of the 80+ years they'll be around. But even all that isn't enough; older people also want lower taxes, which is effectively the same as passing the bill to their kids/grandkids/great-grandkids/great-great/ and so on, because they aren't even willing to give back to society just like society gave to them when they were our age. And let's not even get started on the wonderful global climate disasters we get to inherit while our parents and grandparents are long gone.
And then after all that, older generations accuse ME of being entitled and self-centered? Your generation doesn't exactly get to act morally superior. Like one of the parent posters said, entitlement isn't an age issue, just a personality issue.
because they can be processed faster without risk of human error? The malfunctioning rate of voting machines is very low, but you wouldn't know it when the only information you get about it is extremely overblown bs like what Glenn Beck is doing here.
If you're going to criticize Americans, at least choose something worth criticizing, like how almost half of Americans shriek in terror at the thought of universal health care, or a 3% increase in income taxes, or a microscopic reduction to America's $1 trillion annual military budget, or their kids being taught the theory of evolution and sex education at school.
you KNOW that's not why they're doing it. If this were the case, half of court cases would have the lawyers looking through victims' internet history. They're only doing it in this case because widely-publicized stories always lead to biased rulings, and they want to look for any and every angry comment or argument the kid's ever made online to give him a negative image.
You aren't going to see the defense showing any tweets like "brb gonna go beat up this neighborhood watch guy" or "lol gonna rob a store without a gun" or anything that would indicate that Trayvon had bad intentions the night he was killed. Instead you're only going to see negative comments he made on completely irrelevant things like youtube videos or on somebody's facebook wall weeks or months prior to his murder.
$100 billion/year is a STEAL compared to what the US spends on travel. Consider our highway system, which already costs billions a year, and then EVERYONE needs a car for it, and all the GAS for those cars (which alone probably costs more than that whole high-speed rail system), and most people will be using a GPS so they don't get lost. And then for those people who don't want to sit in a car and stare at the road for 5-10 hours or more, just consider the upkeep costs on our air travel and airports. $100 billion is nothing compared to all that.
There's also the little fact that high-speed rail is by far the safest form of travel available. Accidents almost never happen, it's actually faster than air travel up until the 4-hour mark, AND most trains have wifi service (at least in the EU).
a class like political science would be the last thing to replace a science course with. Americans are already dumb and opinionated enough as it is; for god's sake, don't let the curriculum reinforce that in following generations.
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Any coworker who said they couldn't do their job clearly just took the opportunity to slack off and blame in on the evil computer. If you can manage to click the big shiny "Desktop" button on the start screen, then you can use Windows 8 the same way you use every previous version of Windows.
I've been using both Windows 7 and Windows 8 since December and I still don't understand this "learning curve" is.
Step 1: start the computer (bonus: it doesn't even require as much patience as a Win7 boot)
Step 2: Look at the Metro start screen and start flinging your feces like your primate brethren ("I don't like change!")
Step 3: Click the big button that says "Desktop"--complete with a picture of your desktop--and everything's back to normal
I didn't even need to go out of the way to download MSE, since windows defender already includes in now. If anything, the start screen is just an extended start menu that can hold more than a dozen shortcuts.
I don't do it because I'm not interested in biology. Same reason I'm not a car mechanic or a plumber, which both also pay well. My lack of interest in studying for 7 years to inject morphine into patients says nothing about the ease of doing so.
And your thoughts had nothing to do with the reality that was presented to you afterwards. The US spends over twice the OECD average per capita on health care, yet ranks 37th in performance. 1/6 of the country doesn't even have any type of insurance, and even more have poor insurance, neither of which are magically negated by the fact that you're a doctor and therefore must know what you're talking about. A reasonable person sees when they're wrong, and stops doing the same mistake over and over again afterward (voting for the party ignores this and panders to social conservatives instead).
...followed by paragraphs in response to your other statements. But nice to hear your thoughts on that information.
Drawing any lines in a state is absurd. If 50% of the state votes for one party, then 50% of their representatives should be from that party, and same if it's 60% and so on. And 1st-grade math will show that Maryland's case (which is still wrong) is the exception, since the overall Congressional layout shows 201-234 in favor of Republicans, despite the voter turnout being 49.0% - 47.7% in favor of Democrats, so don't try to make a false equivalency out of it.
Blah blah blah, I'm not really interested in responding to more of your anecdotal experiences, or in humoring the delusions of an anesthesiologist who thinks his line of work requires any more intelligence than a kid with a calculator and formula sheet (but kudos to being smarter than someone who can't open their mouth correctly), so I'm just going to respond to the very last thing you said regarding health care: It's not as simple as just expanding Medicare. The US already spends more on public health care (i.e. Medicaid and Medicare) than most other OECD countries spend on both private AND public health care, so it should be pretty clear that there's more to do than simply expanding coverage. Pharmaceuticals need much stronger pricing regulations, as do hospitals (which I'm well aware means a lower salary for you); regular check-ups also need very low price ceilings, since there's a strong correlation between the cost of a country's average hospital visit and the frequency that that country's average citizen visits the hospital. Saying "I'm a doctor" doesn't automatically make up for you not knowing any of this.
You can disagree with this all you want, since I'm sure you've gotten used to making obscene amounts of money for monotonous work, but that doesn't change the fact that it's what every other -developed- country in the world does.
Also, what do you have against increased education and infrastructure spending? Lower college cost means less people needing government assistance, and more public transportation means billions of dollars saved in oil costs, GDP lost to unpredictable traffic jams, reduced suburban sprawl, and even less people needing government assistance.
Spoken like someone who doesn't understand that disagreeing with the constitution means that you don't understand the constitution. The only reason anyone would say we don't have a real democracy as though that's a good thing is because they're the minority group (Republicans) screwing over the majority (Democrats).
What about the poster's comments hinted that they didn't understand that part of the constitution? I understand it, I just fundamentally disagree with it because he's right; it's an outdated, inefficient way of governing that leaves room for disgusting levels of abuse via gerrymandering, which is why a majority of people in Pennsylvania voted Democrat, yet only 5 of their 18 representatives are actually Democrat. On a larger scale, it's why more people voted Democrat that Republican (49% to 47.7%), yet Democrats only won 201 House seats while Republicans won 234.
So when you say that Congress represents specific groups of people, it sounds like you don't understand basic math.
Can't say means-testing social security is on the table for many Democrats, but I can say that cutting our outrageous military spending is. There's also universal health care (which is the reason every other OECD country ranks much higher than us and pays half as much per capita), increasing education spending so less people need government assistance in the first place, investing in more reasonable infrastructure like high-speed rail and public transportation like the rest of the developed world, and actually doing something to minimize the effects of global warming rather than pretending it doesn't even exist simply because those politicians won't live long enough to deal with the consequences.
Also, generalizations regarding which states get the most retirees are hardly the strongest argument for why certain states receive more tax dollars, since most retirees stay right where they are. Those states are welfare states because they have terrible/nonexistent public service planning, even by US standards.
There are your reasons to stop voting for the same party that panders to Jesus freaks (and also tries their best to obstruct everything in the first paragraph).
I replaced an old 27" monitor with a 21.5" Samsung, to the dismay of my whole family. It's a huge improvement. Larger screens just become hard to look at after a while.
Maybe you should try sitting down with the marketers, artists and executives all at the same table and have them all come to an agreement right there instead of being antagonistic and letting basic things drag out for months. If any business really gets this bad, that's a failing of ALL involved employees.
It's worth noting that the massive earthquake needed to disable that nuclear plant also caused several oil refineries to outright explode. And the nuclear "disaster" was also largely overblown; none of the cleanup crew working INSIDE the plant has shown any sign of health issues, and the evacuation was a safety precaution that American "news" networks squawked at and circled like vultures and sensationalized into the start of the zombie apocalypse (4 days away, btw).
Even if nuclear energy WAS as terrible and evil as some people (i.e. oil companies and the people they fool) like to say, no amount of nuclear radiation in a few concentrated waste areas would be anywhere near as ecologically disastrous as the worldwide effect that CO2 emissions given off by oil and gas.
So I seriously hope the LDP restarts Japan's nuclear program. Closing it in favor of importing oil was one of the biggest environmental crimes in history.
What is there to even complain about productivity-wise with Windows 8? It's EXACTLY the same after you press the Start button. And it boots up significantly faster than 7. Most importantly, only Windows 8 supports development of Metro programs, which should be reason enough for you to upgrade if you're only using a computer for work.
Isn't hacking a hate-spreading website also an act of speech? If "donating" money to politicians is now an act of speech, I fail to see how telling the WBC to go screw themselves isn't an act of speech. Shame on you for acting like everyone should be all hugs and kisses with these kinds of hatemongers.
Seeing as how half the prison population is in there for drug charges, I'd say the government has a history of focusing on the users.
You're downplaying Ubuntu's huge impact on drawing ordinary, non-tech-savvy people toward Linux. Its influence dwarfs every other distro's. You mention other prominent distros, but when you actually ASK other people (who aren't programmers) who have just adopted a Linux distro what they use, they don't answer "Debian" or "Arch" or "Mint," they answer "Ubuntu." Your own solitary opinion on Ubuntu or the FSF doesn't matter.
I don't THINK my generation is better than my parents'; I KNOW it is. Note the lack of self-imposed racial segregation in most schools. Checking your phone mid-conversation might be rude, but you know what's much more rude? The racism, homophobia, and overall bigotry your generation showed (and in many states continues to show). You can pull the "you'll see in 20 years" card, but you must realize that even with that taken into account, our faults are much smaller than your generation's.
And please, even 4channers know 4chan is the ass of the internet.
Those "young 'uns" take longer because they're new to real-world programming. You were exactly the same, except the software YOU worked with was nowhere near as large as what younger programmers have to familiarize themselves with. And the fact that they have to sift through legacy code written by people as close-minded as you only makes it harder. It takes a special kind of stupid to criticize your kids' peers like that, as though they're expected to have your 30 years' worth of experience right out of college.
Honestly, I'm GLAD the the worst thing you can say about my generation is that a few of us have picked up some rude habits. You know what we can say about YOUR generation? That your peers are/were:
-bad parents that led to those rude habits
-racists
-homophobes
-less educated
-hypocrites (high taxes when you were getting the services, low taxes now that we need them)
-cluelessly ruining environments around the globe, for slightly cheaper fuel and other products
I could go on, but I think you get the idea. I'd take the occasional inattentive classmate over the common racist classmate any day.
"Paid for"? Funny!
But seriously, though, you must not be in America, because medical care isn't considered infrastructure here. And the rest of what older generations have left for my generation is pretty laughable. Transportation is horribly inefficient pretty much anywhere outside NYC because all the baby boomers need their own McMansion with their own lawns and gardens, most likely tended by the same people they say should be deported. So now the tallest buildings in most cities are two-story houses, and it's impossible to simply go get groceries without a giant gas-guzzling 5-to-8-seat car that you only drive in alone/with one other person 99% of the time.
And educational quality is horrible in the US for 2 reasons: bad/absent parenting and politically-connected textbook publishers (both of which are, again, on older generations) that put profit ahead of textbook quality; and don't forgot the massive tuition rates my generation is having to pay just for the CHANCE of making a comparable salary (adjusted for inflation) to what our parents made without a degree 30 years ago.
And then there's the retirement age, which is pretty much going to be stuck at 65 for the next few decades so everyone currently above 50 gets to retire by then, effectively contributing to the economy for maybe half of the 80+ years they'll be around. But even all that isn't enough; older people also want lower taxes, which is effectively the same as passing the bill to their kids/grandkids/great-grandkids/great-great/ and so on, because they aren't even willing to give back to society just like society gave to them when they were our age. And let's not even get started on the wonderful global climate disasters we get to inherit while our parents and grandparents are long gone.
And then after all that, older generations accuse ME of being entitled and self-centered? Your generation doesn't exactly get to act morally superior. Like one of the parent posters said, entitlement isn't an age issue, just a personality issue.
Well CLEARLY, America's only answer to this is another $50 billion in stealth fighters that we can store in a military hangar for the next 100 years.
because they can be processed faster without risk of human error? The malfunctioning rate of voting machines is very low, but you wouldn't know it when the only information you get about it is extremely overblown bs like what Glenn Beck is doing here.
If you're going to criticize Americans, at least choose something worth criticizing, like how almost half of Americans shriek in terror at the thought of universal health care, or a 3% increase in income taxes, or a microscopic reduction to America's $1 trillion annual military budget, or their kids being taught the theory of evolution and sex education at school.
you KNOW that's not why they're doing it. If this were the case, half of court cases would have the lawyers looking through victims' internet history. They're only doing it in this case because widely-publicized stories always lead to biased rulings, and they want to look for any and every angry comment or argument the kid's ever made online to give him a negative image.
You aren't going to see the defense showing any tweets like "brb gonna go beat up this neighborhood watch guy" or "lol gonna rob a store without a gun" or anything that would indicate that Trayvon had bad intentions the night he was killed. Instead you're only going to see negative comments he made on completely irrelevant things like youtube videos or on somebody's facebook wall weeks or months prior to his murder.
Because clearly that Zimmerman psycho knew all about some kid's online comment history when he harassed and shot him.
The defense lawyers and the judge need to be thrown in jail along with him.
$100 billion/year is a STEAL compared to what the US spends on travel. Consider our highway system, which already costs billions a year, and then EVERYONE needs a car for it, and all the GAS for those cars (which alone probably costs more than that whole high-speed rail system), and most people will be using a GPS so they don't get lost. And then for those people who don't want to sit in a car and stare at the road for 5-10 hours or more, just consider the upkeep costs on our air travel and airports. $100 billion is nothing compared to all that.
There's also the little fact that high-speed rail is by far the safest form of travel available. Accidents almost never happen, it's actually faster than air travel up until the 4-hour mark, AND most trains have wifi service (at least in the EU).
a class like political science would be the last thing to replace a science course with. Americans are already dumb and opinionated enough as it is; for god's sake, don't let the curriculum reinforce that in following generations.