We could all answer this question easily if you would be so gentle and provide some grounds for a proper comparison. Such as, for example, a Cuba which doesn't need to follow the whims of a cranky neighbour USA which autotakes the right to force sanctions on Cuba just because it is so full of evil commies. You say live and let live, but what you do is not coherent with that. (Deliberately poisoning the waters of your neighbour and then boasting around how your own watter is way healthier, is usually a trait of a bastard, low and dirty personality.) Only then we would be able to properly evaluate the responses to your questions.
You have the right to take that oppotyunity. Some of us have the right to take the oportunity to not want the same thing to happen again because exactly as you mention while you are being opportune, taking the lives of those who draw caricatures because said caricatures offend them enough to kill, is not a good thing. And lastly, some of us do not have the opportunity to fuck off from one of such places where the majority of the population are offended by said drawings and would seriously kick your arse if you boasted about your atheism. I will not recomend anything for starters, since you seem fairly advanced in experience.
The process of power shifting from a set of hands to another set of hands has happened before many times throughout the course of human history. Maybe something similar is about to happen again. http://moneymorning.com/ext/ar... If this is true, the mystery of why all these countries want these weapons, disappears.
In an extraordinary move, a company that makes use of sacrilegious ways of collaboration using technology and ideas with names such as "open source" or "donationware", such a company seems to have attracted the attention of heretics and infidels whose sole purpose in life is to undermine the Goodness of the Enterprises. With the controversial name of "OwnCloud" they sinfully provide a way to transform any combination of: "free", "Microsoft", "storage service" and "15 GB", into a joke . Some even commit atrocities such as breaking 'politically correct' protocol and laugh right in front of the face of the speaker of these words. How this company has done this is still unknown, but speculation and rumour speak of "local computer OwnCloud instance" and "router/modem port redirection". A certain kind of the geek species even blaspheme with openvpn connections between the hosting company where they keep webpages, and the beforementioned atrocious "local computer OwnCloud instance". Yet, the consensus among the experts about this last bit is that we are dealing with pure fantasy.
Sadly I agree to that. Yet let's be optimistic. After all, we can say we have achieved some level of accuracy when we will boast that yes yes, it is really us, in all respects, that has colonised that world. We come as a package across the Universe.
After reading all comments so far and thinking of the concerns mentioned, printing humans onto another world for colonising purposes is really not a fearful thing to do. I will illustrate the simplicity of it by starting with artificial insemination and sperm donation. There is a sperm pool out of which we draw readymade zoids to fecund with an egg in an ovary, when we determine there is a need to do so. In the end, it all boils down to this bare fact.
Now, many if-s follow.. and we reach a point where if we have a world and if we want to colonise it and it is very close - less than 10ly away - then if we today happen to chose the moment when to 'start' the building of an embryo using readymade zoids and ovaries, can't this moment well enough be when the colony-ship lands on that world?.. the TimeSpan will kill the zoids and ovaries.... but then they are carriers of DNA. So basically, we don't need the ovaries and and the zoids, just a machine/biomachine to know how to imitate an ovary and another machine/biomachine to imitate the zoid. The embryo will contain the supplied DNA fed into the biomachines. Now, the database of the persons of these DNA samples would be no different than the databases of the existing sperm banks mentioned earlier.
If we would ever be capable of doing all this sci-fi, we would also be capable to build in advance a home, why, a village, waiting for the coming ocupants.
Otherwise, it is all well and good too. We just stay home.
Considering also the parent post, it would be wiser on his part to quit and leave the dubious still dubious and get on with proper research, rather than step on who knows who might be interested in or is behind the marketing of the dubious results and who could later undermine his proper research. Spoiling somebody's elaborate plan to profit by scientific fallacies, could lead to grudges just because the said fallacy now has been scientifically proven and the profit plan, however elaborate and next-to-perfect, is dead forever.
Wearable devices will not be massively popular unless they will be as simple to use as headphones. Plug and it works and you don't need to think anymore about them. There are many people I know who dislike bluetooth headphones just because after a while they get tired from sychronising them with the device, finding the proper frequency, there is noise and interference and whatever have you. Or they need something for a special purpose, such as to cheat at an exam hearing through a tiny invisible earplug deep in your ear what someone else at the next room is reading. But for normal people and normal life, either wearable devices will be as simple as switching on the TV, either the producers should really think targeting not "all the people there is" but selected target groups and usage specific audiences.
A completely agree with it. My comment was more to stress the "picnic" part, aka being efficient in the hunt. I was assuming a hunt more to the pleasure in hunting rather than efficiency in providing food. If the later is the case, the same limits about the quantity of hunted game would apply. I apologize for the confusion in that case.
You can always go hunting for the next can of meat at the nearest super or mini market. You can even fill an entire truck of them and reduce the effort to just a single trip. Not to mention the spices from India, fish from Madagascar and Japanese caviar.
From a subspecies of H.Sapiens with a hig-sigma level of certainty to have difficulties in removing parentheses from an algebraic expression when there is a minus sign before the parenthesis? I do not think so. Equal airtime from a subgrup of human society as a whole who are intelligent enough to use that same "equal" sign/notion between the words "trust" and "faith"? I don't think so. Equal airtime from followers of a certain moral-set that basically boils down to a freedom for them to yell all day long near your ear while dismissing your freedom to not listen to them? I don't think so. Have these degenerate life-forms read books such as "A Brief History of Time"? Or "The Particle at the End of the Universe"? Or "The Genome"? Can they understand what does the results of BICEP2 mean for human knowledge? I don't think so.
I don't mind them barking all day long. I only want them to do it within their own fucking playground. I for one do not give a single hair of my armpit to teach how the world works to people who willingly refuse to do it. Let them rot within the gooey mind-masturbation they chose to live. Just keep them off my own grass!
I can see the different viewpoints of those who say Snowden is a hero, and the others who say he is a villain. It is also a good thing to know that either group does agree that whatever the act of Snowden is labeled, it is a flagrant violation of the Constitution. This is still without getting out of the US worldview of things. If we suddenly 'retreat' a bit more to get into this 'field of view' not only the US, but the World as an entity, the US worldview should learn how to queue.
But my main curiosity is this: We have two computer technology worldwide-known persons, who have expressed different opinions about the Snowden Saga. I wonder, why stop at them alone and not ask any further, how would other world-wide known computer technology persons see this matter? We could ask Larry Wall, Brian Kernighan, Bjarne Stroustrup, Larry Ellison... the more the better.
THEN, we could mine this data set and maybe we could even find that there is some mysterious connection between beeing a famous computer guy AND success of wealth AND which of these have thick trade-pipes with governmental contracts which in turn loopback towards their welth.
This way we would have way more accurate conclusions and much more credible ones. And with a much lower margin of error as the sampling set would be richer, supposing that the sampling set would not be cherry-picked.
You know, it is 10 years now I do not watch TV, I don't have a TV set at home. I watch the occasional when I go to visit my parents or some friend, but that is because the TV is on all the time everywhere I go and I can not shut my eyes. I read a lot, and I do mean a lot. Everyday two hours at least, the time one would spend in front of the TV. I do not want to seem arrogant, but I am considered the guy with lots and lots of imagination among my friends. I think there could be a correlation with my aTV-ism, it, but I will say there is not, thus making you happy and easier to move along.
... from the very moment that a parent will give a phone or a pad or anything of that sort to a very young kid, convinced that interacting with it will help the kid to develop the brain in a way that will help him/her during life. VERY FEW are aware that such early interaction does exactly the opposite to the brain: since a vry early stage it deeply plants reflexes of the form "solution to problem is ready. Click click click found!".
This. Stuffing technology in schools in this manner has no impact on education. Facts actually sugest that pencil&paper and and show exact solution with answer lead to better brains than smart expensive pads which react to touch and simplify radiobutton selection options.
I strongly wish that. When I mentioned "Legislation" by no means I was thinking adding only. The options could be as trimming, repealing, changing, trashing... in general, fixing. And moreover, the process of stopping this from happening again should encompass legislation, not be limited within its boundaries. For example, it might also involve necessity to inform the public and some line there reading "Non compliants will be taken out and shot". Ok, this is figurative but the idea is that there has to be some fear factor in it. Human civilsation experience so far has shown countless times that absolute power corrupts absolutely. So we shoud be careful to NOT give such powers.
It is important not to simply wonder on this. After all, in a way or another some had seen it commming. Now that the brown pieces have hit the rotating blades, the real issue is how to prevent this from happening in the future.
The first thing that comes to mind is the word "Legislation". But then again, it is exactly that what gave rise to this situation in the first place.
"I have a million ideas. They all point to certain death" - Marvin
To my understanding the detection of blackholes is vastly, imensely, easier than detection of intelligent life. It is like the ability to detect a nuclear explosion 50km away, vs a complicated formation of candles on a birthday cake at the same distance.
Well well. So there is this piece of legislation that will make it illegal to 3d-print a gun.
So now I wonder, what is and whether it will be altered or 'revised', the definition of: Gun. One needs not a gun to harm someone else. Illegalising the 3d-printing of Guns as we now think of guns, will only add one more law to the ocean of Laws and will only marginally solve the problem it is setting out to solve.
I am not surprised of this not-so-new news. The same is happening with advertisement where the mantra is "shout shout 100 times to get that one single client to spend the money". We have a saying that basically goes: Do not shout "The Wolf" when there is no wolf. When the wolf comes for real, noone will belive you.
Interesting thoughts, which are very bound to welcome "us and them" way of thinking. I am among them whom you called "you Europeans" and the very next decisecond after reading your post I thought: "Wow! Thus come the words from that same country (maybe the one and only in the World) which since the day it was conceived has always been in deep deficit of brain over population. The population in itself is continuously imported and it has NEVER EVER been able to sustain itself.
Horrible mess of things eh? Like what... software patents? Nationwide Law forbidding human stem cell research? Creationism in schools? Presidents who "are in missions assigned from God himself" Da Blues Brother's style? Imprisonments for posting a twitter message? Come on, don't be rediculous. This is not a mess, it is being orderly.
Mark me a troll if you like, but we have a saying here which goes: "A fish starts to rot at the head".
IMNSHO anything that is an obvious idea, and can be trivially implemented by one skilled in said craft should not be patentable... This includes any [simulation of real-world activity] on a [generic computing interface]. I really with the US-PTO would get a clue already.
There could be a lot of people agreeing with this. I also envision them rubbing their palms in excitement because there is now a lot to do for them: When does an idea stop being obvious? Is it related to the skill of the practitioner? Does that mean that if I am an average skill worker and have an idea that clashes with a patent then this idea is patentable and I am a violator, while at the same time some very high skill worker can come up with the same idea and in that case he is OK because the idea can be trivial to implement for him?
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We could all answer this question easily if you would be so gentle and provide some grounds for a proper comparison. Such as, for example, a Cuba which doesn't need to follow the whims of a cranky neighbour USA which autotakes the right to force sanctions on Cuba just because it is so full of evil commies. You say live and let live, but what you do is not coherent with that. (Deliberately poisoning the waters of your neighbour and then boasting around how your own watter is way healthier, is usually a trait of a bastard, low and dirty personality.)
Only then we would be able to properly evaluate the responses to your questions.
You have the right to take that oppotyunity. Some of us have the right to take the oportunity to not want the same thing to happen again because exactly as you mention while you are being opportune, taking the lives of those who draw caricatures because said caricatures offend them enough to kill, is not a good thing. And lastly, some of us do not have the opportunity to fuck off from one of such places where the majority of the population are offended by said drawings and would seriously kick your arse if you boasted about your atheism.
I will not recomend anything for starters, since you seem fairly advanced in experience.
The process of power shifting from a set of hands to another set of hands has happened before many times throughout the course of human history.
Maybe something similar is about to happen again.
http://moneymorning.com/ext/ar...
If this is true, the mystery of why all these countries want these weapons, disappears.
In an extraordinary move, a company that makes use of sacrilegious ways of collaboration using technology and ideas with names such as "open source" or "donationware", such a company seems to have attracted the attention of heretics and infidels whose sole purpose in life is to undermine the Goodness of the Enterprises. With the controversial name of "OwnCloud" they sinfully provide a way to transform any combination of: "free", "Microsoft", "storage service" and "15 GB", into a joke . Some even commit atrocities such as breaking 'politically correct' protocol and laugh right in front of the face of the speaker of these words. How this company has done this is still unknown, but speculation and rumour speak of "local computer OwnCloud instance" and "router/modem port redirection". A certain kind of the geek species even blaspheme with openvpn connections between the hosting company where they keep webpages, and the beforementioned atrocious "local computer OwnCloud instance". Yet, the consensus among the experts about this last bit is that we are dealing with pure fantasy.
Sadly I agree to that. Yet let's be optimistic. After all, we can say we have achieved some level of accuracy when we will boast that yes yes, it is really us, in all respects, that has colonised that world. We come as a package across the Universe.
After reading all comments so far and thinking of the concerns mentioned, printing humans onto another world for colonising purposes is really not a fearful thing to do. I will illustrate the simplicity of it by starting with artificial insemination and sperm donation. There is a sperm pool out of which we draw readymade zoids to fecund with an egg in an ovary, when we determine there is a need to do so. In the end, it all boils down to this bare fact.
Now, many if-s follow.. and we reach a point where if we have a world and if we want to colonise it and it is very close - less than 10ly away - then if we today happen to chose the moment when to 'start' the building of an embryo using readymade zoids and ovaries, can't this moment well enough be when the colony-ship lands on that world? .. the TimeSpan will kill the zoids and ovaries.... but then they are carriers of DNA. So basically, we don't need the ovaries and and the zoids, just a machine/biomachine to know how to imitate an ovary and another machine/biomachine to imitate the zoid. The embryo will contain the supplied DNA fed into the biomachines. Now, the database of the persons of these DNA samples would be no different than the databases of the existing sperm banks mentioned earlier.
If we would ever be capable of doing all this sci-fi, we would also be capable to build in advance a home, why, a village, waiting for the coming ocupants.
Otherwise, it is all well and good too. We just stay home.
Considering also the parent post, it would be wiser on his part to quit and leave the dubious still dubious and get on with proper research, rather than step on who knows who might be interested in or is behind the marketing of the dubious results and who could later undermine his proper research. Spoiling somebody's elaborate plan to profit by scientific fallacies, could lead to grudges just because the said fallacy now has been scientifically proven and the profit plan, however elaborate and next-to-perfect, is dead forever.
Wearable devices will not be massively popular unless they will be as simple to use as headphones. Plug and it works and you don't need to think anymore about them.
There are many people I know who dislike bluetooth headphones just because after a while they get tired from sychronising them with the device, finding the proper frequency, there is noise and interference and whatever have you. Or they need something for a special purpose, such as to cheat at an exam hearing through a tiny invisible earplug deep in your ear what someone else at the next room is reading. But for normal people and normal life, either wearable devices will be as simple as switching on the TV, either the producers should really think targeting not "all the people there is" but selected target groups and usage specific audiences.
A completely agree with it. My comment was more to stress the "picnic" part, aka being efficient in the hunt. I was assuming a hunt more to the pleasure in hunting rather than efficiency in providing food. If the later is the case, the same limits about the quantity of hunted game would apply.
I apologize for the confusion in that case.
You can always go hunting for the next can of meat at the nearest super or mini market. You can even fill an entire truck of them and reduce the effort to just a single trip. Not to mention the spices from India, fish from Madagascar and Japanese caviar.
From a subspecies of H.Sapiens with a hig-sigma level of certainty to have difficulties in removing parentheses from an algebraic expression when there is a minus sign before the parenthesis? I do not think so.
Equal airtime from a subgrup of human society as a whole who are intelligent enough to use that same "equal" sign/notion between the words "trust" and "faith"? I don't think so.
Equal airtime from followers of a certain moral-set that basically boils down to a freedom for them to yell all day long near your ear while dismissing your freedom to not listen to them? I don't think so.
Have these degenerate life-forms read books such as "A Brief History of Time"? Or "The Particle at the End of the Universe"? Or "The Genome"? Can they understand what does the results of BICEP2 mean for human knowledge? I don't think so.
I don't mind them barking all day long. I only want them to do it within their own fucking playground. I for one do not give a single hair of my armpit to teach how the world works to people who willingly refuse to do it. Let them rot within the gooey mind-masturbation they chose to live. Just keep them off my own grass!
I can see the different viewpoints of those who say Snowden is a hero, and the others who say he is a villain. It is also a good thing to know that either group does agree that whatever the act of Snowden is labeled, it is a flagrant violation of the Constitution. This is still without getting out of the US worldview of things. If we suddenly 'retreat' a bit more to get into this 'field of view' not only the US, but the World as an entity, the US worldview should learn how to queue.
But my main curiosity is this: We have two computer technology worldwide-known persons, who have expressed different opinions about the Snowden Saga. I wonder, why stop at them alone and not ask any further, how would other world-wide known computer technology persons see this matter? We could ask Larry Wall, Brian Kernighan, Bjarne Stroustrup, Larry Ellison... the more the better.
THEN, we could mine this data set and maybe we could even find that there is some mysterious connection between beeing a famous computer guy AND success of wealth AND which of these have thick trade-pipes with governmental contracts which in turn loopback towards their welth.
This way we would have way more accurate conclusions and much more credible ones. And with a much lower margin of error as the sampling set would be richer, supposing that the sampling set would not be cherry-picked.
Doesn't one have to love science for its inquiry nature.
http://www.pbs.org/parents/childrenandmedia/article-when-introduce-child-smartphone-tablet.html
http://www.thestar.com/life/technology/2012/11/29/smartphone_addicts_start_early_in_south_korea.html
http://www.straitstimes.com/breaking-news/singapore/story/kids-using-gadgets-earlier-age-being-exposed-risks-study-20130605
And as you also brought the TV into the mix, of course, that too.
http://www.timesofmalta.com/articles/view/20130505/education/Effects-of-TV-computer-games-and-smartphones-on-children.468339
You know, it is 10 years now I do not watch TV, I don't have a TV set at home. I watch the occasional when I go to visit my parents or some friend, but that is because the TV is on all the time everywhere I go and I can not shut my eyes. I read a lot, and I do mean a lot. Everyday two hours at least, the time one would spend in front of the TV. I do not want to seem arrogant, but I am considered the guy with lots and lots of imagination among my friends. I think there could be a correlation with my aTV-ism, it, but I will say there is not, thus making you happy and easier to move along.
... from the very moment that a parent will give a phone or a pad or anything of that sort to a very young kid, convinced that interacting with it will help the kid to develop the brain in a way that will help him/her during life. VERY FEW are aware that such early interaction does exactly the opposite to the brain: since a vry early stage it deeply plants reflexes of the form "solution to problem is ready. Click click click found!".
This. Stuffing technology in schools in this manner has no impact on education. Facts actually sugest that pencil&paper and and show exact solution with answer lead to better brains than smart expensive pads which react to touch and simplify radiobutton selection options.
I certainly am going to be modded down, but it is about time I explained that "GFY" stands for "Go Fuck Yourself".
Always with love from the Whole Internet.
I strongly wish that. When I mentioned "Legislation" by no means I was thinking adding only. The options could be as trimming, repealing, changing, trashing... in general, fixing. And moreover, the process of stopping this from happening again should encompass legislation, not be limited within its boundaries. For example, it might also involve necessity to inform the public and some line there reading "Non compliants will be taken out and shot". Ok, this is figurative but the idea is that there has to be some fear factor in it. Human civilsation experience so far has shown countless times that absolute power corrupts absolutely. So we shoud be careful to NOT give such powers.
It is important not to simply wonder on this. After all, in a way or another some had seen it commming. Now that the brown pieces have hit the rotating blades, the real issue is how to prevent this from happening in the future.
The first thing that comes to mind is the word "Legislation". But then again, it is exactly that what gave rise to this situation in the first place.
"I have a million ideas. They all point to certain death" - Marvin
To my understanding the detection of blackholes is vastly, imensely, easier than detection of intelligent life. It is like the ability to detect a nuclear explosion 50km away, vs a complicated formation of candles on a birthday cake at the same distance.
Well well. So there is this piece of legislation that will make it illegal to 3d-print a gun.
So now I wonder, what is and whether it will be altered or 'revised', the definition of: Gun. One needs not a gun to harm someone else. Illegalising the 3d-printing of Guns as we now think of guns, will only add one more law to the ocean of Laws and will only marginally solve the problem it is setting out to solve.
... it looks funny,
In a rich man world.
I am not surprised of this not-so-new news. The same is happening with advertisement where the mantra is "shout shout 100 times to get that one single client to spend the money".
We have a saying that basically goes: Do not shout "The Wolf" when there is no wolf. When the wolf comes for real, noone will belive you.
Interesting thoughts, which are very bound to welcome "us and them" way of thinking. I am among them whom you called "you Europeans" and the very next decisecond after reading your post I thought: "Wow! Thus come the words from that same country (maybe the one and only in the World) which since the day it was conceived has always been in deep deficit of brain over population. The population in itself is continuously imported and it has NEVER EVER been able to sustain itself.
Horrible mess of things eh? Like what... software patents? Nationwide Law forbidding human stem cell research? Creationism in schools? Presidents who "are in missions assigned from God himself" Da Blues Brother's style? Imprisonments for posting a twitter message? Come on, don't be rediculous. This is not a mess, it is being orderly.
Mark me a troll if you like, but we have a saying here which goes: "A fish starts to rot at the head".
IMNSHO anything that is an obvious idea, and can be trivially implemented by one skilled in said craft should not be patentable... This includes any [simulation of real-world activity] on a [generic computing interface]. I really with the US-PTO would get a clue already.
There could be a lot of people agreeing with this. I also envision them rubbing their palms in excitement because there is now a lot to do for them: When does an idea stop being obvious? Is it related to the skill of the practitioner? Does that mean that if I am an average skill worker and have an idea that clashes with a patent then this idea is patentable and I am a violator, while at the same time some very high skill worker can come up with the same idea and in that case he is OK because the idea can be trivial to implement for him?
We need an analogy here, I think. A housing developer built on some low lying land, in a "classy" area of town.
Oh yea? You forget you're on /. punk! Explain to us with the one and only, the Car Analogy! Yeah! ... you're free to go this time.
There is no pain you're all receding,
a distant ship smoke on the Horizon.
You are always coming through in waves....