Check out www.i-minitel.com if you want to see what its "really" like. Maybe you will need a little bit of babelfish, but there is downloadable software for PC, Mac or Linux.
Can you finally use your nVidia in 8 color 24 x 40 mode . . . . .
What about Darpanet? Isn't that the true proto-internet given that it predates minitel and was a much larger network and, oh yeah, formed the backbone of the internet?
All true, but IMHO the big difference is that MiniTel was a network for the public, like Internet today, while Darpa was in the early years mainly academic and military. Anyway, Minitel definitely had the lead in..... pr0n, xxx, etc. Don't know about "mini-spam", but I presume the French have a different culinary taste, than to prefer those blue cans:-).
Are they still charging local calls by the minute?
Ahh, but that's all relative. I remember that 5 years ago in Holland, where local calls are also charged by the minute, because of that system, you were able to get free (as in beer:-) dial-up internet access and email. Just because the telephone company would split some profit with the ISP, you didn't need to pay extra for Internet access. And I can tell you, those additional local call minutes (few cents) added up to way less than in the US you probably payed for your monthly AOL or Compuserve.
Don't think telecom companies on this side of the ocean (US/Canada) are making less money from their customers. On the contrary, I just checked my $300 cell-phone bill. Nowadays they call it roaming charges.... It's just a matter how costs are split.
Just read a message from a Dutch friend in New York, who asked her friends in Europe to call her, because that was so much cheaper than when she called them. And on the funny side, a call Amsterdam - New York is five times cheaper than a call Amsterdam - Brussels (250 km).
I will agree with you once the free software subculture actually comes out with something that is NOT A CLONE of a commercial product.
It indeed happens seldom to find a really original idea implemented as a software product. But that's happening both in the commercial and the free software world. Hey, what was the last M$ or IBM software product, not being a clone:-).
But for the free software world, I do think that the first NCSA web server and the first web browser (running on good old NeXT) can be considered "not a clone" and were also free downloadable. So, there is your example....
Anybody wonders, why this rumour was quoted from the Seattle Times.... how far is that from Redmond???
Bigger than a micro, but 100 g sugar no problem
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If you like to kick it up a notch, check out www.flycam.nl. These machines are app. 2 meter long and can carry an 11 kg payload, so that should be enough for your sugar cubes:-). To get details and specs, click the site-map link.
I once read somewhere that these helicopters go for a price of 30-40 thousand. Same as a car....
Not talking about the Pac-Man floor, but about the web-site, if this is the level of web-page design students nowadays learn in university, well......
It demonstrates the horrible side of today's megapixel camera's: people even think that you should post those 'greater than life' (ehhh, 'bigger than my window') pictures on a website.
Hey guys, ever heard about thumbnails? Probably not, because as far as I noticed, there were no girls around.....
... is Pilzen (gee, makes you wonder where 'pilsener' comes from)...
I was in Pilzen in 1979. Those where the good days (the big wall closed and such:-) when a full liter (that's around two pints, you metric-haters and Mars-lander destroyers) was costing you 25 cents/pennies!!! Including service on a nice sidewalk cafe....
Well, which country is the most blatent ignorer of UN ruling.... you know the answer: the US. You don't need any history knowledge for that. Just read the papers from a month ago, that are still stacked in the garage. Second question, which country was the worst payer of their UN contributions? Same answer.
OK, I'm definitely not a fan of the UN organisation. But that's the same as that I'm often also not a fan of the decisions by my own country's parlement. That's democracy unfortunately.
So, yes, the UN is often horrible. But the US is worse, they normally ignore the UN so badly that they should be clear and just step out of the UN. That would make its position clear to the rest of the world. Just another one of those......
We are used to/.-ers commenting without having read the article. That's even the fun of slashdot. But it appears that we have reached new levels: even people submitting a topic don't read their source anymore and everybody else follows like lemmings.
The New Scientist article doesn't mention any camera's, camcorders (why should you record this anyway, it's over in a second:-), or such. According to the article, the guy just uses a couple of IR sensors. That's a whole lot cheaper than camera's.
Still, this whole project is of course nuts. You love clocks (like I do !!) and than you have the honor to wind them every day, every Sunday at noon, or..... That's just the fun of having old clocks.
Anybody can read the time from his cellphone. And using a GPS for the time-reading... why doesn't the guy put a GPS on the pendulum and measure the frequency that way. That's cool!!!
To the parent of the parent, let's keep it simple: before 1995, when Zenith was still a US company and one of the biggest TV producers in the world, they didn't have the guts to start an LCD factory.
I'm not going so far as to say that because of that they lost their customers and are now Korean. But.....
I agree fully. But the funny thing is that inproper use of rediculous patents is really a US invention, and AFAIK not very Japanese. Tough to explain that one....
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I agree, it all has to do with competition, or in this case a lack of competition.
In 1992/94 I worked for Philips in the Netherlands to build the first (and last:-) mass-scale LCD factory outside of the Far East. For the geographically less developed folks (those that think that Netherlands is the capital of Denmark:-), this means no company in the US or Europe. Please think a second of the consequences, like the US having to rely on Japanese GPS technologies.
At that time, Philips (world leader in CRTs and TVs) saw it as a threat that the possible successor of this product (LCD's) was built nowhere in the Western World. However, three years later they solved this in a differnt way by making an alliance with LG.
But, the important part is that no US manufacturer (Motorola, Intel, Zenith, RCA, etc.) has started LCD plants, and no European company (Siemens, Thompson, etc.) has done it either. That's asking for being dependent on only a very small group of companies, mainly in South Korea and Japan, that can very easy make a deal and keep prices up.
So, it's easy to say: We need competition. Someone must start that competition, even when you are the David against Goliath. Same is true with the MS domination of this world. Yes, it keeps the prices up, but you (the custumer) asked for it when you swapped your WordPerfect for Word4Windows.
So, when all that has happened, don't complain later!!!
Then there is the risk: In a paperless office you can lose EVERYTHING.
What about a burned down office building?:-)
Serious: Besides the "move your desktop around on campus", the main other principle behind SunRay's, MadHatter, etc. is that your paperless stuff is important enough to be put on central (probably mirrored or RAID) storage which gets backed up nightly. So you don't lose ANYTHING.
Since a year or three, I'm working 99% paperless. Don't have a cabinet with folders anymore. It also saves my lower back when I'm travelling.
I could be proven wrong ofcourse, but pull down list boxes by itself are not too bad, however, combined with those nice scroll wheels on your mouse.... that's asking for disaster.:-) Or am I the only one who often uses that weel to make a selection, then you move the pointer to another area of the window and try to use the wheel to scroll down. The result is often that your selection in the listbox goes haywire (well you just move to the last option), which sometimes goes unnoticed.
Don't know if this happened tonight, but it could, it could....
You can pick up a 4 port 10/100 full duplex Linksys router for about $50.
And I just picked up a Siemens 4 port 10/100 router for $30. The 2 port version a friend bought was even $19.95.
Given the profit Office Depot makes and the shipping costs all the way from China, I'm wondering if Cisco knows how to make money on products that can not cost more than 2-5 dollar "out of the factory".
Manager: Jeff, your bonus for the 1st quarter is $ 2.95:-)
Of course it can, but how many of them are going to need to know Linux compared to Windows later on in their careers?
Isn't that exactly the difference between education and a training. Education brings you to a higher level, where you later can figure out how to apply your knowledge, training teaches you some tricks that you can apply tomorrow.
So, I hate the argument that a University not using Windows doesn't prepare you for "the real world". Go away!!! How many engineering students will do any math or physics after having graduated. Still, you need it to prepare yourself.
Universities are not there to teach you Visual Basic or Word Macro's. No, they should (and luckily many do) learn you OO programming in a good pure language like Java. With that background you can lateron handle any problem in any language.
And intelligent people, that are able to switch boy/girl friends on a weekly (Friday night) basis, should be able to switch IDE's after a focussed long weekend.:-)
Well, there are 486's and 486's. This one is an AMD Am5x86-WB stepping 04, with 66.15 BogoMIPS. It was manufactured in 1998. Don't know the exact birthdate of RH 6.2, but I don't think the two are that far apart. Anyway, when I installed this box last year, that was the oldest RedHat I could find.
I have a simple rule. When I have a box of year 19XX, then I try to give it an OS of year 19XX and preferably the applications of year 19XX. (BTW, for the picky ones, same is true for 20XX:-).
The advantage is that you get good performance and that the drivers still understand old hardware like.... (fill in your dots).
So my Advantech 486 / 64MB IPC is still running fine as a firewall / DNS-server, with two ISA-based 3COM 509Cs. And given my rule above, it is of course running a 2.2 kernel, in this case RH 6.2.
My desktop (P5) is running Debian (also 2.2 kernel), but on the other hand my more recent notebook is using RH 8.0 (Linux 2.4).
Performance wise this is all pretty optimal, the only worry that you can have is that those older configurations are not coping with the latest virus attacks. Anyway, so far, so good......
Same overhere. It's a scam. I went last week to the Sony Store, who tried to nail me for CAD 370 for a new battery. Based on my experience, it probably doesn't last more than 100 cycles. Putting in C or D-cells would be cheaper:-).
My biggest gripe is why notebook manufacturers can not settle for standard battery packs. Just C-cells for example and than the user can choose between the type of rechargables. And they don't cost you hundreds of dollars for just a stupid battery.
My only hope is that few years ago you saw the same scam (on lesser scale) with camera's. But most of them learnt their lesson. Or maybe camera buyers did. When I bought my last point-and-shoot, the first thing I told the salesguy: "I want a camera with normal AA cells". No problem.
So we just have to wait for the first laptop manufacturer who goes for "normal" cells. And then just buy that notebook instead of an IBM or Sony. That would probably teach them a lesson much quicker than any court-case. Just like the US government should not have put M$ into court, but just should have stopped buying from Redmond....
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Check out www.i-minitel.com if you want to see what its "really" like. Maybe you will need a little bit of babelfish, but there is downloadable software for PC, Mac or Linux.
Can you finally use your nVidia in 8 color 24 x 40 mode . . . . .
What about Darpanet? Isn't that the true proto-internet given that it predates minitel and was a much larger network and, oh yeah, formed the backbone of the internet?
..... pr0n, xxx, etc. Don't know about "mini-spam", but I presume the French have a different culinary taste, than to prefer those blue cans :-).
All true, but IMHO the big difference is that MiniTel was a network for the public, like Internet today, while Darpa was in the early years mainly academic and military. Anyway, Minitel definitely had the lead in
Are they still charging local calls by the minute?
:-) dial-up internet access and email. Just because the telephone company would split some profit with the ISP, you didn't need to pay extra for Internet access. And I can tell you, those additional local call minutes (few cents) added up to way less than in the US you probably payed for your monthly AOL or Compuserve.
Ahh, but that's all relative. I remember that 5 years ago in Holland, where local calls are also charged by the minute, because of that system, you were able to get free (as in beer
Don't think telecom companies on this side of the ocean (US/Canada) are making less money from their customers. On the contrary, I just checked my $300 cell-phone bill. Nowadays they call it roaming charges.... It's just a matter how costs are split.
Just read a message from a Dutch friend in New York, who asked her friends in Europe to call her, because that was so much cheaper than when she called them. And on the funny side, a call Amsterdam - New York is five times cheaper than a call Amsterdam - Brussels (250 km).
I will agree with you once the free software subculture actually comes out with something that is NOT A CLONE of a commercial product.
:-).
It indeed happens seldom to find a really original idea implemented as a software product. But that's happening both in the commercial and the free software world. Hey, what was the last M$ or IBM software product, not being a clone
But for the free software world, I do think that the first NCSA web server and the first web browser (running on good old NeXT) can be considered "not a clone" and were also free downloadable. So, there is your example....
Anybody wonders, why this rumour was quoted from the Seattle Times .... how far is that from Redmond???
I once read somewhere that these helicopters go for a price of 30-40 thousand. Same as a car....
Not talking about the Pac-Man floor, but about the web-site, if this is the level of web-page design students nowadays learn in university, well......
It demonstrates the horrible side of today's megapixel camera's: people even think that you should post those 'greater than life' (ehhh, 'bigger than my window') pictures on a website.
Hey guys, ever heard about thumbnails? Probably not, because as far as I noticed, there were no girls around.....
...and then call the garbage collector...
Which/who more or less by definition is a temp....
... is Pilzen (gee, makes you wonder where 'pilsener' comes from) ...
:-) when a full liter (that's around two pints, you metric-haters and Mars-lander destroyers) was costing you 25 cents/pennies!!! Including service on a nice sidewalk cafe....
I was in Pilzen in 1979. Those where the good days (the big wall closed and such
The UN is a joke.
.... you know the answer: the US. You don't need any history knowledge for that. Just read the papers from a month ago, that are still stacked in the garage. Second question, which country was the worst payer of their UN contributions? Same answer.
......
Well, which country is the most blatent ignorer of UN ruling
OK, I'm definitely not a fan of the UN organisation. But that's the same as that I'm often also not a fan of the decisions by my own country's parlement. That's democracy unfortunately.
So, yes, the UN is often horrible. But the US is worse, they normally ignore the UN so badly that they should be clear and just step out of the UN. That would make its position clear to the rest of the world. Just another one of those
We are used to /.-ers commenting without having read the article. That's even the fun of slashdot. But it appears that we have reached new levels: even people submitting a topic don't read their source anymore and everybody else follows like lemmings.
:-), or such. According to the article, the guy just uses a couple of IR sensors. That's a whole lot cheaper than camera's.
..... That's just the fun of having old clocks.
... why doesn't the guy put a GPS on the pendulum and measure the frequency that way. That's cool!!!
The New Scientist article doesn't mention any camera's, camcorders (why should you record this anyway, it's over in a second
Still, this whole project is of course nuts. You love clocks (like I do !!) and than you have the honor to wind them every day, every Sunday at noon, or
Anybody can read the time from his cellphone. And using a GPS for the time-reading
But why doesn't Motorola then make LCD's ???
To the parent of the parent, let's keep it simple: before 1995, when Zenith was still a US company and one of the biggest TV producers in the world, they didn't have the guts to start an LCD factory.
.....
I'm not going so far as to say that because of that they lost their customers and are now Korean. But
I agree fully. But the funny thing is that inproper use of rediculous patents is really a US invention, and AFAIK not very Japanese. Tough to explain that one....
I agree, it all has to do with competition, or in this case a lack of competition.
:-) mass-scale LCD factory outside of the Far East. For the geographically less developed folks (those that think that Netherlands is the capital of Denmark :-), this means no company in the US or Europe. Please think a second of the consequences, like the US having to rely on Japanese GPS technologies.
In 1992/94 I worked for Philips in the Netherlands to build the first (and last
At that time, Philips (world leader in CRTs and TVs) saw it as a threat that the possible successor of this product (LCD's) was built nowhere in the Western World. However, three years later they solved this in a differnt way by making an alliance with LG.
But, the important part is that no US manufacturer (Motorola, Intel, Zenith, RCA, etc.) has started LCD plants, and no European company (Siemens, Thompson, etc.) has done it either. That's asking for being dependent on only a very small group of companies, mainly in South Korea and Japan, that can very easy make a deal and keep prices up.
So, it's easy to say: We need competition. Someone must start that competition, even when you are the David against Goliath. Same is true with the MS domination of this world. Yes, it keeps the prices up, but you (the custumer) asked for it when you swapped your WordPerfect for Word4Windows.
So, when all that has happened, don't complain later!!!
Then there is the risk: In a paperless office you can lose EVERYTHING.
:-)
What about a burned down office building?
Serious: Besides the "move your desktop around on campus", the main other principle behind SunRay's, MadHatter, etc. is that your paperless stuff is important enough to be put on central (probably mirrored or RAID) storage which gets backed up nightly. So you don't lose ANYTHING.
Since a year or three, I'm working 99% paperless. Don't have a cabinet with folders anymore. It also saves my lower back when I'm travelling.
Topic selection is a pull down box.
.... that's asking for disaster. :-) Or am I the only one who often uses that weel to make a selection, then you move the pointer to another area of the window and try to use the wheel to scroll down. The result is often that your selection in the listbox goes haywire (well you just move to the last option), which sometimes goes unnoticed.
....
I could be proven wrong ofcourse, but pull down list boxes by itself are not too bad, however, combined with those nice scroll wheels on your mouse
Don't know if this happened tonight, but it could, it could
You can pick up a 4 port 10/100 full duplex Linksys router for about $50.
:-)
And I just picked up a Siemens 4 port 10/100 router for $30. The 2 port version a friend bought was even $19.95.
Given the profit Office Depot makes and the shipping costs all the way from China, I'm wondering if Cisco knows how to make money on products that can not cost more than 2-5 dollar "out of the factory".
Manager: Jeff, your bonus for the 1st quarter is $ 2.95
Of course it can, but how many of them are going to need to know Linux compared to Windows later on in their careers?
:-)
Isn't that exactly the difference between education and a training. Education brings you to a higher level, where you later can figure out how to apply your knowledge, training teaches you some tricks that you can apply tomorrow.
So, I hate the argument that a University not using Windows doesn't prepare you for "the real world". Go away!!! How many engineering students will do any math or physics after having graduated. Still, you need it to prepare yourself.
Universities are not there to teach you Visual Basic or Word Macro's. No, they should (and luckily many do) learn you OO programming in a good pure language like Java. With that background you can lateron handle any problem in any language.
And intelligent people, that are able to switch boy/girl friends on a weekly (Friday night) basis, should be able to switch IDE's after a focussed long weekend.
I liked it so much, I emailed a link to my whole group!
....
Ahhhh, got you!! So, it's your group that's responsible that the article is now SlashDotted
Well, there are 486's and 486's. This one is an AMD Am5x86-WB stepping 04, with 66.15 BogoMIPS. It was manufactured in 1998. Don't know the exact birthdate of RH 6.2, but I don't think the two are that far apart. Anyway, when I installed this box last year, that was the oldest RedHat I could find.
Keep hiding AC, Willem
is still based on RH 6.2. Which could be blamed on lack of resources or attention, but it's probably more an issue of "good enough".
Willem
I have a simple rule. When I have a box of year 19XX, then I try to give it an OS of year 19XX and preferably the applications of year 19XX. (BTW, for the picky ones, same is true for 20XX :-).
.... (fill in your dots).
The advantage is that you get good performance and that the drivers still understand old hardware like
So my Advantech 486 / 64MB IPC is still running fine as a firewall / DNS-server, with two ISA-based 3COM 509Cs. And given my rule above, it is of course running a 2.2 kernel, in this case RH 6.2.
My desktop (P5) is running Debian (also 2.2 kernel), but on the other hand my more recent notebook is using RH 8.0 (Linux 2.4).
Performance wise this is all pretty optimal, the only worry that you can have is that those older configurations are not coping with the latest virus attacks. Anyway, so far, so good......
Willem
The replacement for floppies will probably be USB memory sticks.
Same overhere. It's a scam. I went last week to the Sony Store, who tried to nail me for CAD 370 for a new battery. Based on my experience, it probably doesn't last more than 100 cycles. Putting in C or D-cells would be cheaper :-).
My biggest gripe is why notebook manufacturers can not settle for standard battery packs. Just C-cells for example and than the user can choose between the type of rechargables. And they don't cost you hundreds of dollars for just a stupid battery.
My only hope is that few years ago you saw the same scam (on lesser scale) with camera's. But most of them learnt their lesson. Or maybe camera buyers did. When I bought my last point-and-shoot, the first thing I told the salesguy: "I want a camera with normal AA cells". No problem.
So we just have to wait for the first laptop manufacturer who goes for "normal" cells. And then just buy that notebook instead of an IBM or Sony. That would probably teach them a lesson much quicker than any court-case. Just like the US government should not have put M$ into court, but just should have stopped buying from Redmond....