Sure? You take half of each entangled pair of pennies and ship them to Alpha Centauri. It takes four years to do this. But it doesn't follow that it took four years to send your message; it only took four years to set up the comm. link. The message bits arrive instantaneously and are detected in 1-2 seconds after transmission. The propagation delay is zero -- all the delay is due to the protocol.
The odd thing is that you can't actually observe that it was instantaneous until about four years later.:-)
Ah, this brings up a question that has been nagging me. Would someone please identify the experiments which showed the speed of propagation of the other three fundamental interactions.
Actually metlin is right: that is pretty simple. It's vaguely like an isolation transformer or buffer amplifier, and apparently a necessary step in making QC into useful technology (since you wouldn't want to change the machine's answer by reading it).
...B: is it too late to get people to stop calling this "teleportation"? No material object winked out of existence here and recreated itself over there.
Otherwise wake me when they get as far as transfer booths.
Must go -- gotta teleport some files to the server.
Oh, good. Another "hardware" feature that's actually buried in the (useless) driver code.
Maybe we need a law requiring vendors to clearly label which features are actually implemented in hardware (and will work anywhere) and which are faked in software (and thus only worth money if you run MS Windows).
Right. This is pretty much the equivalent of nailing the competitor's doors shut and blocking his parking lot with dump trucks so the customers can't come in and buy. We already have laws to deal with such behavior, and they should be used.
Saying we need new laws just because a computer is involved is like saying we need separate laws against bank robbers who come in through the front door and bank robbers who come in through an open window.
If installing a newer library causes an older app. to fail, it is the new library which is broken. Balkanizing supposedly sharable libraries just papers over the real problem, which is undisciplined development.
Sounds like the Timebelt in, let's see, was it _There Will Be Time_? How many people will really want to be seen staring at their own nether regions while fiddling with their belt buckles?
At least the Timebelt looks normal when you're not operating it.
First someone sends in a story while under the impression that aluminum == alumina, now we have silicon carbide == charcoal. Somebody sound the gong, please.
Why do people keep seeing a value judgment in what I wrote? I did not say that anything was good or bad, OK or NOT-OK. Rushing to judgment is what gets people into pointless contests instead of working out their differences and building on their commonalities.
What I tried to point out is that Mr. Ashcroft has not changed. The perception of change is perception *only*, caused by the relativity of "good" and "bad". Something is "bad" if you don't like it. Well, the AG's office isn't supposed to care what people like or don't like, only what the law says, so some times you will like what they do and some times you won't.
If you want to see it that way, the current AG is no better now than he was before, okay? It's just his job to do something you like, in addition to the things you haven't liked. It's not about you.
I didn't say anything about what is good or bad. If SCO get their way, that's bad for me and a lot of others, but good for the people who run SCO. If they don't, that's good for me and a lot of others but bad for SCO. So, is their current behavior good or bad? It all depends. Does their current behavior *work*? Judges will decide that and everyone will agree on the result.
Scams, spams, and craziness are also not about friends and enemies.
But look again at what I wrote. If your objective is to stay in business, avoid costly judgments against your organization, and build your customer base, then honesty and integrity should be part of your business plan. It's still not about friends and enemies, or good and evil; it's about the way people function. If you treat people badly, they'll stop giving you the opportunity the moment a better alternative appears.
It doesn't really help to try to label companies or governments as good or evil. Corporate entities either work well or work poorly -- they are smart or they are stupid. The stupid ones die; the smart ones prosper. What's the ROI on Enron's irregular practices, today?
A corporate entity can't have a sense of morals. It has no mind; it is only a collection of reflexes. It *can* have reflexes which are tuned to the ethical structures espoused by a sufficient ly large number of the individuals making up the societies in which it trades, and then it will win business and avoid some unnecessary costs. But it has no way to understand good and bad; it only understands success and failure.
Telling a government or a business that they should be ashamed doesn't get results. Simple behavioral therapy does.
Rubbish. Whatever wording the Constitution uses, the reality is that the U.S. government is a nonprofit corporation chartered to deliver services to citizens. The citizens are also the owners (something that the directors and their staffs occasionally forget).
In what significant way is the government of a republic not a business?
"Hold responsible" also has nothing to do with friends or enemies. Or, it shouldn't.
I'm trying to disentangle the person from the role. A person can be a friend or an enemy, but when he puts on the role he should put off personal considerations and carry out the role impartially. (You may believe that someone is not doing this, and that's good reason to seek his dismissal.) Likewise we who hire people to fill roles in our government should judge them on their performance in the role, not because we like or dislike them personally.
There are in fact any number of laws underscoring the idea that a person acting in an official capacity had better not behave as though he has friends or enemies, regardless of what he does during off hours.
The AG's people apparently believe that these UCE perpetrators are violating the law, and have acted accordingly. That this pleases the OP is entirely unconnected to that. They may believe that the accused are actually very nice people whom they would like to meet socially, except that the accused seem to have broken some laws. The very same people may turn around next week and do something that displeases the OP, again due (we hope) solely to their belief that someone broke the law.
I find that looking at things this way makes the world a lot easier to understand.
Whoever Mr. Ashcroft is in private life, the Attorney General of the United States is not your friend or your enemy; he has a job to do and we expect that he is doing it. One day that will work for you; another day it will work against you. You may agree or disagree with the way that he does it, but it shouldn't be anything personal, on his part or yours.
Business is not about friends and enemies. Business is about achieving objectives.
Yup, I could simply pack up all the stuff that my app. might need and not find, and cram it all into the.jar. The thought of a single host with twenty-seven slightly different versions of a given JDBC driver rattling around inside is a bit unnerving, though.
In the long run, though (which is what I was addressing), if the design is made right then workarounds would no longer be needed. And that's what these suggestions are: kluges to overcome the apparent fact that nobody on the architecture team ever thought of Java app.s as living in a larger context on a multiuser host as part of a centrally-managed network.
That's a possibility, but see my "lone hacker" comment.
If I do this in ~/.profile, it only works for me.
If I put it in/etc/profile, it only works on the one host I did this to.
If I put it in/etc/profile on every host in my organization, it only works inside my organization.
If there was a standard way of expressing this idea built into the JVM, it works everywhere and I can depend on that mechanism when distributing code.
Right now I have to choose between instructing the user to do profile surgery wherever my product runs, or the usual gaseous shellscript wrapper (which is not portable) that locates the JRE, then goes into Karnak the Great mode to try to divine the location of dozens of libraries, conses up an immense CLASSPATH and even larger 'java -DTHIS -DTHAT' command, and runs it.
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Sure? You take half of each entangled pair of pennies and ship them to Alpha Centauri. It takes four years to do this. But it doesn't follow that it took four years to send your message; it only took four years to set up the comm. link. The message bits arrive instantaneously and are detected in 1-2 seconds after transmission. The propagation delay is zero -- all the delay is due to the protocol.
:-)
The odd thing is that you can't actually observe that it was instantaneous until about four years later.
Ah, this brings up a question that has been nagging me. Would someone please identify the experiments which showed the speed of propagation of the other three fundamental interactions.
Actually metlin is right: that is pretty simple. It's vaguely like an isolation transformer or buffer amplifier, and apparently a necessary step in making QC into useful technology (since you wouldn't want to change the machine's answer by reading it).
...B: is it too late to get people to stop calling this "teleportation"? No material object winked out of existence here and recreated itself over there.
Otherwise wake me when they get as far as transfer booths.
Must go -- gotta teleport some files to the server.
Mouse Systems. Unfortunately you'll have to scour the Earth to find anybody who sells them.
Canada is in America. Perhaps you meant that it's not in the United States of America.
We don't get "polythene" over here on the left side of the Atlantic. What does it call itself when it leaves the UK?
Oh, good. Another "hardware" feature that's actually buried in the (useless) driver code.
Maybe we need a law requiring vendors to clearly label which features are actually implemented in hardware (and will work anywhere) and which are faked in software (and thus only worth money if you run MS Windows).
I didn't think of the sharks (reference still unknown to me) until I got to the subhead. My first thought was more like:
If you give a mouse a laser
then he'll want a missile to shoot down with it.
And if you give him a missile....
(If you don't get *that* reference, find someone with small children -- they'll understand.)
Right. This is pretty much the equivalent of nailing the competitor's doors shut and blocking his parking lot with dump trucks so the customers can't come in and buy. We already have laws to deal with such behavior, and they should be used.
Saying we need new laws just because a computer is involved is like saying we need separate laws against bank robbers who come in through the front door and bank robbers who come in through an open window.
Yeah, aint it surprising, public servants serving the public after all. That's NEVER happened before! ;-)
If installing a newer library causes an older app. to fail, it is the new library which is broken. Balkanizing supposedly sharable libraries just papers over the real problem, which is undisciplined development.
when they offer me flat-rate unlimited cellular with .99999 uptime and 4hr. MTTR for the same price per month.
Sounds like the Timebelt in, let's see, was it _There Will Be Time_? How many people will really want to be seen staring at their own nether regions while fiddling with their belt buckles?
At least the Timebelt looks normal when you're not operating it.
First someone sends in a story while under the impression that aluminum == alumina, now we have silicon carbide == charcoal. Somebody sound the gong, please.
It's not November yet. I'd like to see more candidates, and more differences among them. Go out and get your campaign on.
Why do people keep seeing a value judgment in what I wrote? I did not say that anything was good or bad, OK or NOT-OK. Rushing to judgment is what gets people into pointless contests instead of working out their differences and building on their commonalities.
What I tried to point out is that Mr. Ashcroft has not changed. The perception of change is perception *only*, caused by the relativity of "good" and "bad". Something is "bad" if you don't like it. Well, the AG's office isn't supposed to care what people like or don't like, only what the law says, so some times you will like what they do and some times you won't.
If you want to see it that way, the current AG is no better now than he was before, okay? It's just his job to do something you like, in addition to the things you haven't liked. It's not about you.
I didn't say anything about what is good or bad. If SCO get their way, that's bad for me and a lot of others, but good for the people who run SCO. If they don't, that's good for me and a lot of others but bad for SCO. So, is their current behavior good or bad? It all depends. Does their current behavior *work*? Judges will decide that and everyone will agree on the result.
Scams, spams, and craziness are also not about friends and enemies.
But look again at what I wrote. If your objective is to stay in business, avoid costly judgments against your organization, and build your customer base, then honesty and integrity should be part of your business plan. It's still not about friends and enemies, or good and evil; it's about the way people function. If you treat people badly, they'll stop giving you the opportunity the moment a better alternative appears.
It doesn't really help to try to label companies or governments as good or evil. Corporate entities either work well or work poorly -- they are smart or they are stupid. The stupid ones die; the smart ones prosper. What's the ROI on Enron's irregular practices, today?
A corporate entity can't have a sense of morals. It has no mind; it is only a collection of reflexes. It *can* have reflexes which are tuned to the ethical structures espoused by a sufficient ly large number of the individuals making up the societies in which it trades, and then it will win business and avoid some unnecessary costs. But it has no way to understand good and bad; it only understands success and failure.
Telling a government or a business that they should be ashamed doesn't get results. Simple behavioral therapy does.
Rubbish. Whatever wording the Constitution uses, the reality is that the U.S. government is a nonprofit corporation chartered to deliver services to citizens. The citizens are also the owners (something that the directors and their staffs occasionally forget).
In what significant way is the government of a republic not a business?
"Hold responsible" also has nothing to do with friends or enemies. Or, it shouldn't.
I'm trying to disentangle the person from the role. A person can be a friend or an enemy, but when he puts on the role he should put off personal considerations and carry out the role impartially. (You may believe that someone is not doing this, and that's good reason to seek his dismissal.) Likewise we who hire people to fill roles in our government should judge them on their performance in the role, not because we like or dislike them personally.
There are in fact any number of laws underscoring the idea that a person acting in an official capacity had better not behave as though he has friends or enemies, regardless of what he does during off hours.
The AG's people apparently believe that these UCE perpetrators are violating the law, and have acted accordingly. That this pleases the OP is entirely unconnected to that. They may believe that the accused are actually very nice people whom they would like to meet socially, except that the accused seem to have broken some laws. The very same people may turn around next week and do something that displeases the OP, again due (we hope) solely to their belief that someone broke the law.
I find that looking at things this way makes the world a lot easier to understand.
Yeah, the first thing I think when I see this stuff is, "this person is obviously dishonest. Why would I want to do business with such people? "
You haven't grasped the essence of the situation.
Whoever Mr. Ashcroft is in private life, the Attorney General of the United States is not your friend or your enemy; he has a job to do and we expect that he is doing it. One day that will work for you; another day it will work against you. You may agree or disagree with the way that he does it, but it shouldn't be anything personal, on his part or yours.
Business is not about friends and enemies. Business is about achieving objectives.
Patience! We have to convict them first. Arrested != proven guilty.
:-}
After the proof, go for it. Don't bother with helmets when you drag them to the moon; the enclosure would restrict their freedom of speech.
Yup, I could simply pack up all the stuff that my app. might need and not find, and cram it all into the .jar. The thought of a single host with twenty-seven slightly different versions of a given JDBC driver rattling around inside is a bit unnerving, though.
In the long run, though (which is what I was addressing), if the design is made right then workarounds would no longer be needed. And that's what these suggestions are: kluges to overcome the apparent fact that nobody on the architecture team ever thought of Java app.s as living in a larger context on a multiuser host as part of a centrally-managed network.
That's a possibility, but see my "lone hacker" comment.
/etc/profile, it only works on the one host I did this to.
/etc/profile on every host in my organization, it only works inside my organization.
If I do this in ~/.profile, it only works for me.
If I put it in
If I put it in
If there was a standard way of expressing this idea built into the JVM, it works everywhere and I can depend on that mechanism when distributing code.
Right now I have to choose between instructing the user to do profile surgery wherever my product runs, or the usual gaseous shellscript wrapper (which is not portable) that locates the JRE, then goes into Karnak the Great mode to try to divine the location of dozens of libraries, conses up an immense CLASSPATH and even larger 'java -DTHIS -DTHAT' command, and runs it.