I don't think he could cover the lost as 'accident' as it's he who put the Palm into oven.
There are many hi-tech devices were ruined by PHB each year and the number is increasing. It's mainly due to the fact that household kitchen-ware is the only electric devices they could understand how to use. You'll use tools you acquainted with to fix things right? Same thing applied to PHB.
I wondered why there are so many PHBs believe in kitchen-ware could fix hi-tech devices.
My friend, an Oracle DBA consultant, was given a difficult task to revive a very old tape which contained very important data. He tried so many methods in vain until he found out the tape manufacturer did provide service to 'bake' the tape. Yes! bake the tape to revive the tape. We don't know how and what they use to bake the tape, but they really said it is some process to 'bake' the tape to make the tape 'readable' again.
My friend solved the problem. A month later, the same client called, saying that their PHB, in an attempt to save money, baking tapes that he found problems - with (you bet) house oven.
Java's security model primarily comes into play for applets and mobile code, but that's only a tiny fraction of all applications
Good post but like a lot of Java developers I found the above statement untrue. Java's security model is used extensively in server-side Java. Say I'm working on the EJB loader which rely heavily on it. Also, 70% of the Java development here is around server-side. Java applets may be very hot when you switch to C#, but it's definitely not the case now.
Also, java applet does not play a too important role in mobile, as an applet eats up more memory than normal java application does. Yes it'd be a problem here but tackling space requirement in mobile devices has the priority at this moment. Btw, I don't think mobile application is a tiny market afterall!:)
indexing arrays isn't the biggest application on using pointers.:)
They are talking about abusing pointers, like buffer overflow, not the convenience of using pointers.
Btw, Java offer similar convenience in using reference in arrays. Yes you may say performance-wise pointer is much better, but consider running code over network security usually outweight performance in most case.
On a side note: Does anyone really expect Joy to say anything even remotely suportive of C#. Even if C#/.NET was the greatest thing since sliced bread, (I'm not saying it is) does anyone really expect anyone from Sun, especially one of the guys that created Java, to say anything possitive, supportive?
So you mean no Java developers can critize C#, especially those who work in SUN, even when the opinions might be reasonable and valid?
Tell Microsoft stop calling GPL virus!:D
Let's keep things in perspective, kids.
I know you are not calling me kids, but I found this statement funny when you said it.:D
This is just like disallowing certain functions to be run in Intranet. The admin here once disallow javascript running but turn out we cannot access to our cooperation database as some functions in javascript cannot be used.
Similar case here, yes an admin can disable any function but what if they live on these functions? His point is that they shouldn't make such an design at the first place.
Even showing them legal licenses but failed to produce supporting reports generated by some Software Asset Manager tools on NT server sold by them they will:
1) have local custom bash the door and show their warrant
2) stop anybody from touching the computers
3) unplug all computers and line them up against the wall, seal them with tapes for the custom to take photos
4) the other team(probably from BSA) will come to investigation the day *after* tomorrow
That basically drove my friend out of business.
He was planning to take legal to recover his lost but to his dismay local Laws actually grant them the right to take such an action.:/
I'm not worrying about legalese as we are using legal software, and I don't want to setup a NT server for Software Asset Management. Why do we want to buy an NT server for silly function, and generate reports for other company who want use die?
Thank you for your help so far, your advise is very valuable.:)
That might not work. Last time I check the local custom is hand in hand with BSA, I even saw a press release they are shaking hand in cooperative partnership. Oh btw, here is not US.
Thank you for your help, but I think we are doomed here.
BSA, including a sound threatening letter and two forms. The forms required us to list the hardware and software we are using and their model and serial numbers
I think the request is outragous, why do we want to expose our company information to other company whom we have no business deal with and never will? However, I'm worrying that if I don't fill the forms they would 'redlisted' us and might give us some trouble, but on the other hand I also believe that they'd do the same if I filled the forms.
We do use some Windows for clients but we are very sure we want nobody else touch our enterprise servers(Linux), nor bring it down for a second!
Haha, we always hear 'Linus is turning to dark side' whenever he has any connection to commercial, including his current job.
I'd suggest you read his bio(sorta) book "Just for Fun", and you can see he isn't much of a hardcore philosopher like RMS. Well, I'm not in position to give review to his book, but my impression is that his philosophy is like "I don't care, I'm just doing it for fun"
In related news, the Government also declared that the Sky is Blue, Bill Gates is Rich, and that Governments spend money on obvious surveys.
I'm sorry to disappoint you, but the Government has really done research on blue sky. Don't speak to louder or they might reconsider extending their clue finding process on why Bill Gates is so rich.:D
Hi TummyX, since you asked, I continue my trolling...:)
As I said I'm biased.:) Also, I've left IBM long time ago so the piece of history I quote might not be very accurate. My apology.
But what've heard from my former co-workers that, you are right, DEC then Compaq are responsible for the development of NT on their Alpha, and Microsoft has granted their access to the codebase of NT(well, part of). However, this partnership ended(sort of) for some reason. We've two rumors(yes, rumors):
1) Compaq dropped the Alpha line. They dropped a lot of promising projects in DEC, so we wondered exactly why they bought DEC at the first place.:D
2) Microsoft, having seen Alpha business didn't work so well, gradually withdraw granting and supporting Compaqin the NT development.
Since we were compulsory MS-hater, we tend to believe number 2. Heh just kidding. Actually another beer friend who was a developer in Compaq told me they did't have access to newer codebase since...(don't reall when), and he was liquidated soon after. He might lie to me and bad-mouth Compaq because in my opinion he's a rather disgruntle empolyee ^_^, any Compaq guy can confirm this?
What a shame! You know Alpha servers even have better sales than our PPC! XD
Some of you say it's impossible to promote opensource without Internet access. In my opinion it's not their major problem.
Once I saw a documentary about SUN donating an UNIX workstation to an Africa country(don't recall which one, but it's so under-developed) for educational research. The major problem they've got is not being able to connect to internet, their problem is to get steady supply of electricity to boot up the workstation.:)
But the power of desperate users is unlimited! To solve the problem, they built a dynamo from a bicycle. It's bizarre to see how they use the workstation - someone is bicycling very hard while the operator types very very fast(No X, just CLI, sorry!).
I've never complaint my internet connection since.:D
(I'm also aware that South Africa is not like the other under-developed countries in Africa, just a thought. ^_^)
Last Thursday, the Microsoft's community received a boost when Microsoft chose software developer Bill Gates as the first recipient of the Microsoft Foundation grant. Microsoft initially donated an estimated $500,000 worth of hardware and software. See http://www.microsoft.com/catalog/default.asp?subid =22 for more information on how you can pitch in - every dollar counts!
"We're pleased to be able to let Bill focus on golf without distraction," said Craig Mundie, lead moron of the Microsoft Foundation. "Through these grants, the support of the monopolization -- including sizeable amounts from victims, can be put to use for the good of everyone!"
Yes, I'm just kidding, you can mod me down now. *close his eyes*
Thank you for such a detail chroncle but since I worked for IBM I've heard a different version than yours. (and since I worked for IBM I may be biased, be warned. ^_^)
It was not IBM refused to ship PPC with NT, it's Microsoft who refused to developed NT on PPC. In fact DOS/Win32 running on 486 core wasn't so bad at that time, may be due to some architectural difficulties Microsoft did not port their NT to PPC.(you are right NT is portable and asm is not, but PPC's asm is open enough for them, at least as far as I know)
NT can run on Alpha. I'm not sure whether NT5(aka W2K) can run on Alpha, but previous versions can. It's Microsoft who left Alpha, not vice versa.:)
OS/2 lost to Windows mainly due to the fact that Windows do not allow OS/2 ship with many Win32 components - that almost drove OS/2 out of Win-compatibility business. In fact IBM did strike back by releasing 'OS/2 for Windows' version, but lost is lost.
Microsoft then further extended their monopolization by penalizing PC vendors if their line of products ship with OS other than Windows. That's what you've been hearing in the trial.
We, at that time, always wondered "Can they do that?", but hell, IBM did that during 70's(in other market) so why couldn't they! Now we know it's illegal, heh, oh well.:)
but it's too late.
In conclusion, Microsoft chose the path of monopolization. Your post sounds like Microsoft was forced to do so, may be I'm wrong.:)
It always looks and feels awkward, and never 'fits in' the platform it runs on.
What you are talking about 'Looks and Feels' is the auto-rearrangement of GUI widgets with some 'Layout' supports. The 'Layout' support is designed from the ground up for cross-platform, such that the GUI widget adjust themselves for different constraints like windows and screen sizes.
Few other language offers such a cross-platform convenient. You can place the widgets pixel-by-pixel in java if you like, but it hurts the portability.
I studied C# a great deal before giving comments on the comparison. My observation is that C# almost has one-to-one mapping of the syntax of Java, some are so un-innovative that adding an 'i' before the keywords. It seems to me another 'embrace and extend' practice.
Of course, I didn't mean C# is a bad language. Doing something based on existing successes would at least yield something good, so I always keep an eye on C#.
The box failue of the movie results this. The movie was well-made, but it didn't catch the heart of all FF-fans because they attempt to mimic the elements that can be done in non-CG movie. We enjoy FF series for its story completely escaping the real world, but this movie more like a CG-version of Alien(s) to me.:/
2) Larry on Linux = Larry bids SUN and other UNIX vendors farewell
3) Why Oracle while we can get PSQL?
4) PSQL can *never* replace Oracle
5) It's a conspiracy! Larry wants to squeeze more from us because Oracle cost more on Intel platforms!!
I just speak from a DBA's standpoint, that:
1) As many has pointed out, Linux is not necessary = intel. Oracle being on Linux doesn't mean abandoning others.
2) If you have really admin/develop on Oracle you must know that Oracle relies heavily on Java, and Java is SUN's. I can only see Oracle and SUN would get more close than any other time in history.
3) & 4) PSQL can *not* beat Oracle now, if you get to know more about Oracle you'd understand how insufficient PSQL is. However, it doesn't mean PSQL, or any other DBMS, can't beat Oracle in the future. I still remember the day when Oracle 5 was regarded as 'cheap' and 'pathetic loser' among DBMS. Look at Solid DBMS, it goes from free to a very successful commercial DBMS in just a couple of year.:D
5) I failed to find a way to buy a cheaper Oracle for non-intel platforms, compare Mhz by Mhz.:) No matter how you calculate, Sparc's license fee is at least 1.5 more expensive than Intel's. I've the price sheet on hand. However, if you'd really find a way to run Oracle on Sparc cheaper, don't hesitate to tell me!!!:)
My guess(again, from a DBA's view) is that Larry is not satisfying with the database business in midrange systems. Oracle works great on mainframe and it generates multi-billions profit, while it's always been a big trouble support midrange market because the variety is vast(you name it, SUN, AIX, HP-UX...all with lines of different hardware and software version). Compare to Linux it is relatively simple(note relatively).
Frankly I'm not sure whether Larry and his crews would like to use Linux to fight in midrange market, I'd really doubt about it not because I've little confidence in Linux, but because I felt that even Oracle staffs has then same attitude to Linux as those in Microsoft, that Linux is good for fighting below-midrange market. Of course, I'd disagree if they ask me - I run parallel-replicated Oracle server with Linux's load-balancing with RAID 5 and JFS. It's very depending on how many Linux developers/admins can support the midrange market.
The program used in the benchmarks was very simplistic.. I would rather have seen a program creating and destroying many objects of various sizes. In the nativly compiled version, how does garbage collection work? Is it possible to write AWT apps? Swing?
and string processing too! It's a well-known performance handicap for java. SUN is heading the right direction to improve the performance of it in each version, I wonder how well IBM would perform in this battle?:)
It's being done by IBM, anyone would think it's biased?:)
Don't get me wrong, I'm a big fan of IBM, and IBM has really, really made a JDK multi-times out-performing SUN's JDK.
However, I'd believe the selection of 'opponents' are simily..unfair.:)
Kaffe is surely an easy-pick. Yes it's the only GPL JDK out there but many people(at least Java developers here) would avoid kaffe as it has a fatal security flaws that kaffe team doesn't seem to want to solve it.:/ (We call Kaffe 'MS' JDK'2, not just for humor, but it's really the case. ^_^)
Even the GNU people know gcj is slow, even GNU guys know it; but speed is not a real issue for gcj, it's basically a starting point for all implementation - or reference implementation as we like to call it. We would pick a commercial java compiler if we need it.
SUN's JDK, well...you know what I think it just what you think - IT'S SLOW! Yes, we all know that.:D
Nevertheless I think developer's work is doing a great job here, it confirms something everybody know - that IBM's JDK is fast, and that's it. I don't see it could conclude the performance of native compiled java programs. Unless they include all other commercial java compilers into testing, I wouldn't think we have reached a conclusion yet.:)
Ok ok ok - we all know that kernel.org's got some cashflow problems, so people PLEASE use the mirrors and patches!!
I agree, but downloading from kernel.org is just too convenient...I know 90% of people would feel the same.:)
Btw, while the mirrors are official sites, why couldn't kernel.org automatically redirectly the requests to their mirrors according to clients' origin? I'm sure the cost of running kernel.org would be significantly lowered.
Technically it's feasible because many people has already done this for commercial servers. Is there any difficulties(political? Legal? Ownership?) make it impossible?
Slashdot Mirror
I don't think he could cover the lost as 'accident' as it's he who put the Palm into oven.
There are many hi-tech devices were ruined by PHB each year and the number is increasing. It's mainly due to the fact that household kitchen-ware is the only electric devices they could understand how to use. You'll use tools you acquainted with to fix things right? Same thing applied to PHB.
I wondered why there are so many PHBs believe in kitchen-ware could fix hi-tech devices.
My friend, an Oracle DBA consultant, was given a difficult task to revive a very old tape which contained very important data. He tried so many methods in vain until he found out the tape manufacturer did provide service to 'bake' the tape. Yes! bake the tape to revive the tape. We don't know how and what they use to bake the tape, but they really said it is some process to 'bake' the tape to make the tape 'readable' again.
My friend solved the problem. A month later, the same client called, saying that their PHB, in an attempt to save money, baking tapes that he found problems - with (you bet) house oven.
This time, my friend declined to help(of course.)
Java's security model primarily comes into play for applets and mobile code, but that's only a tiny fraction of all applications
:)
Good post but like a lot of Java developers I found the above statement untrue. Java's security model is used extensively in server-side Java. Say I'm working on the EJB loader which rely heavily on it. Also, 70% of the Java development here is around server-side. Java applets may be very hot when you switch to C#, but it's definitely not the case now.
Also, java applet does not play a too important role in mobile, as an applet eats up more memory than normal java application does. Yes it'd be a problem here but tackling space requirement in mobile devices has the priority at this moment. Btw, I don't think mobile application is a tiny market afterall!
indexing arrays isn't the biggest application on using pointers. :)
They are talking about abusing pointers, like buffer overflow, not the convenience of using pointers.
Btw, Java offer similar convenience in using reference in arrays. Yes you may say performance-wise pointer is much better, but consider running code over network security usually outweight performance in most case.
On a side note: Does anyone really expect Joy to say anything even remotely suportive of C#. Even if C#/.NET was the greatest thing since sliced bread, (I'm not saying it is) does anyone really expect anyone from Sun, especially one of the guys that created Java, to say anything possitive, supportive?
:D
:D
So you mean no Java developers can critize C#, especially those who work in SUN, even when the opinions might be reasonable and valid?
Tell Microsoft stop calling GPL virus!
Let's keep things in perspective, kids.
I know you are not calling me kids, but I found this statement funny when you said it.
This is just like disallowing certain functions to be run in Intranet. The admin here once disallow javascript running but turn out we cannot access to our cooperation database as some functions in javascript cannot be used.
Similar case here, yes an admin can disable any function but what if they live on these functions? His point is that they shouldn't make such an design at the first place.
Even showing them legal licenses but failed to produce supporting reports generated by some Software Asset Manager tools on NT server sold by them they will:
:/
:)
1) have local custom bash the door and show their warrant
2) stop anybody from touching the computers
3) unplug all computers and line them up against the wall, seal them with tapes for the custom to take photos
4) the other team(probably from BSA) will come to investigation the day *after* tomorrow
That basically drove my friend out of business.
He was planning to take legal to recover his lost but to his dismay local Laws actually grant them the right to take such an action.
I'm not worrying about legalese as we are using legal software, and I don't want to setup a NT server for Software Asset Management. Why do we want to buy an NT server for silly function, and generate reports for other company who want use die?
Thank you for your help so far, your advise is very valuable.
That might not work. Last time I check the local custom is hand in hand with BSA, I even saw a press release they are shaking hand in cooperative partnership. Oh btw, here is not US.
Thank you for your help, but I think we are doomed here.
BSA, including a sound threatening letter and two forms. The forms required us to list the hardware and software we are using and their model and serial numbers
I think the request is outragous, why do we want to expose our company information to other company whom we have no business deal with and never will? However, I'm worrying that if I don't fill the forms they would 'redlisted' us and might give us some trouble, but on the other hand I also believe that they'd do the same if I filled the forms.
We do use some Windows for clients but we are very sure we want nobody else touch our enterprise servers(Linux), nor bring it down for a second!
Anybody can give me some advise?
but it has a requirement that all your ChangeLogs must be sent to a world-readable server controlled by BitMover.
:P
I don't know about others, but it's the most embarrassing thing on earth for me.
Haha, we always hear 'Linus is turning to dark side' whenever he has any connection to commercial, including his current job.
:)
I'd suggest you read his bio(sorta) book "Just for Fun", and you can see he isn't much of a hardcore philosopher like RMS. Well, I'm not in position to give review to his book, but my impression is that his philosophy is like "I don't care, I'm just doing it for fun"
(Just my personal opinion).
In related news, the Government also declared that the Sky is Blue, Bill Gates is Rich, and that Governments spend money on obvious surveys.
:D
I'm sorry to disappoint you, but the Government has really done research on blue sky. Don't speak to louder or they might reconsider extending their clue finding process on why Bill Gates is so rich.
Actually, having a different opinion here is okay, as long as the opinion is pro-linux or anti-microsoft.
:)
Kind of like freedom of religion is acceptable in america, as long as that religion is Christianity.
Heh, I can't agree more! XD
Take it easy man.
Hi TummyX, since you asked, I continue my trolling... :)
:) Also, I've left IBM long time ago so the piece of history I quote might not be very accurate. My apology.
:D
As I said I'm biased.
But what've heard from my former co-workers that, you are right, DEC then Compaq are responsible for the development of NT on their Alpha, and Microsoft has granted their access to the codebase of NT(well, part of). However, this partnership ended(sort of) for some reason. We've two rumors(yes, rumors):
1) Compaq dropped the Alpha line. They dropped a lot of promising projects in DEC, so we wondered exactly why they bought DEC at the first place.
2) Microsoft, having seen Alpha business didn't work so well, gradually withdraw granting and supporting Compaqin the NT development.
Since we were compulsory MS-hater, we tend to believe number 2. Heh just kidding. Actually another beer friend who was a developer in Compaq told me they did't have access to newer codebase since...(don't reall when), and he was liquidated soon after. He might lie to me and bad-mouth Compaq because in my opinion he's a rather disgruntle empolyee ^_^, any Compaq guy can confirm this?
What a shame! You know Alpha servers even have better sales than our PPC! XD
Some of you say it's impossible to promote opensource without Internet access. In my opinion it's not their major problem.
:)
:D
Once I saw a documentary about SUN donating an UNIX workstation to an Africa country(don't recall which one, but it's so under-developed) for educational research. The major problem they've got is not being able to connect to internet, their problem is to get steady supply of electricity to boot up the workstation.
But the power of desperate users is unlimited! To solve the problem, they built a dynamo from a bicycle. It's bizarre to see how they use the workstation - someone is bicycling very hard while the operator types very very fast(No X, just CLI, sorry!).
I've never complaint my internet connection since.
(I'm also aware that South Africa is not like the other under-developed countries in Africa, just a thought. ^_^)
Last Thursday, the Microsoft's community received a boost when Microsoft chose software developer Bill Gates as the first recipient of the Microsoft Foundation grant. Microsoft initially donated an estimated $500,000 worth of hardware and software. See http://www.microsoft.com/catalog/default.asp?subid =22 for more information on how you can pitch in - every dollar counts!
"We're pleased to be able to let Bill focus on golf without distraction," said Craig Mundie, lead moron of the Microsoft Foundation. "Through these grants, the support of the monopolization -- including sizeable amounts from victims, can be put to use for the good of everyone!"
Yes, I'm just kidding, you can mod me down now. *close his eyes*
Thank you for such a detail chroncle but since I worked for IBM I've heard a different version than yours. (and since I worked for IBM I may be biased, be warned. ^_^)
:)
:)
:)
It was not IBM refused to ship PPC with NT, it's Microsoft who refused to developed NT on PPC. In fact DOS/Win32 running on 486 core wasn't so bad at that time, may be due to some architectural difficulties Microsoft did not port their NT to PPC.(you are right NT is portable and asm is not, but PPC's asm is open enough for them, at least as far as I know)
NT can run on Alpha. I'm not sure whether NT5(aka W2K) can run on Alpha, but previous versions can. It's Microsoft who left Alpha, not vice versa.
OS/2 lost to Windows mainly due to the fact that Windows do not allow OS/2 ship with many Win32 components - that almost drove OS/2 out of Win-compatibility business. In fact IBM did strike back by releasing 'OS/2 for Windows' version, but lost is lost.
Microsoft then further extended their monopolization by penalizing PC vendors if their line of products ship with OS other than Windows. That's what you've been hearing in the trial.
We, at that time, always wondered "Can they do that?", but hell, IBM did that during 70's(in other market) so why couldn't they! Now we know it's illegal, heh, oh well.
but it's too late.
In conclusion, Microsoft chose the path of monopolization. Your post sounds like Microsoft was forced to do so, may be I'm wrong.
It always looks and feels awkward, and never 'fits in' the platform it runs on.
What you are talking about 'Looks and Feels' is the auto-rearrangement of GUI widgets with some 'Layout' supports. The 'Layout' support is designed from the ground up for cross-platform, such that the GUI widget adjust themselves for different constraints like windows and screen sizes.
Few other language offers such a cross-platform convenient. You can place the widgets pixel-by-pixel in java if you like, but it hurts the portability.
I studied C# a great deal before giving comments on the comparison. My observation is that C# almost has one-to-one mapping of the syntax of Java, some are so un-innovative that adding an 'i' before the keywords. It seems to me another 'embrace and extend' practice.
Of course, I didn't mean C# is a bad language. Doing something based on existing successes would at least yield something good, so I always keep an eye on C#.
The box failue of the movie results this. The movie was well-made, but it didn't catch the heart of all FF-fans because they attempt to mimic the elements that can be done in non-CG movie. We enjoy FF series for its story completely escaping the real world, but this movie more like a CG-version of Alien(s) to me. :/
would have thought this is a x-rate channel when they hear this:
/* fuck me plenty */
arch/sparc/kernel/process.c:
I found the majority believe that:
:D
:) No matter how you calculate, Sparc's license fee is at least 1.5 more expensive than Intel's. I've the price sheet on hand. However, if you'd really find a way to run Oracle on Sparc cheaper, don't hesitate to tell me!!! :)
1) Linux = Intel
2) Larry on Linux = Larry bids SUN and other UNIX vendors farewell
3) Why Oracle while we can get PSQL?
4) PSQL can *never* replace Oracle
5) It's a conspiracy! Larry wants to squeeze more from us because Oracle cost more on Intel platforms!!
I just speak from a DBA's standpoint, that:
1) As many has pointed out, Linux is not necessary = intel. Oracle being on Linux doesn't mean abandoning others.
2) If you have really admin/develop on Oracle you must know that Oracle relies heavily on Java, and Java is SUN's. I can only see Oracle and SUN would get more close than any other time in history.
3) & 4) PSQL can *not* beat Oracle now, if you get to know more about Oracle you'd understand how insufficient PSQL is. However, it doesn't mean PSQL, or any other DBMS, can't beat Oracle in the future. I still remember the day when Oracle 5 was regarded as 'cheap' and 'pathetic loser' among DBMS. Look at Solid DBMS, it goes from free to a very successful commercial DBMS in just a couple of year.
5) I failed to find a way to buy a cheaper Oracle for non-intel platforms, compare Mhz by Mhz.
My guess(again, from a DBA's view) is that Larry is not satisfying with the database business in midrange systems. Oracle works great on mainframe and it generates multi-billions profit, while it's always been a big trouble support midrange market because the variety is vast(you name it, SUN, AIX, HP-UX...all with lines of different hardware and software version). Compare to Linux it is relatively simple(note relatively).
Frankly I'm not sure whether Larry and his crews would like to use Linux to fight in midrange market, I'd really doubt about it not because I've little confidence in Linux, but because I felt that even Oracle staffs has then same attitude to Linux as those in Microsoft, that Linux is good for fighting below-midrange market. Of course, I'd disagree if they ask me - I run parallel-replicated Oracle server with Linux's load-balancing with RAID 5 and JFS. It's very depending on how many Linux developers/admins can support the midrange market.
The program used in the benchmarks was very simplistic .. I would rather have seen a program creating and destroying many objects of various sizes. In the nativly compiled version, how does garbage collection work? Is it possible to write AWT apps? Swing?
:)
and string processing too! It's a well-known performance handicap for java. SUN is heading the right direction to improve the performance of it in each version, I wonder how well IBM would perform in this battle?
It's being done by IBM, anyone would think it's biased? :)
:)
:/ (We call Kaffe 'MS' JDK'2, not just for humor, but it's really the case. ^_^)
:D
:)
Don't get me wrong, I'm a big fan of IBM, and IBM has really, really made a JDK multi-times out-performing SUN's JDK.
However, I'd believe the selection of 'opponents' are simily..unfair.
Kaffe is surely an easy-pick. Yes it's the only GPL JDK out there but many people(at least Java developers here) would avoid kaffe as it has a fatal security flaws that kaffe team doesn't seem to want to solve it.
Even the GNU people know gcj is slow, even GNU guys know it; but speed is not a real issue for gcj, it's basically a starting point for all implementation - or reference implementation as we like to call it. We would pick a commercial java compiler if we need it.
SUN's JDK, well...you know what I think it just what you think - IT'S SLOW! Yes, we all know that.
Nevertheless I think developer's work is doing a great job here, it confirms something everybody know - that IBM's JDK is fast, and that's it. I don't see it could conclude the performance of native compiled java programs. Unless they include all other commercial java compilers into testing, I wouldn't think we have reached a conclusion yet.
Ok ok ok - we all know that kernel.org's got some cashflow problems, so people PLEASE use the mirrors and patches!!
:)
I agree, but downloading from kernel.org is just too convenient...I know 90% of people would feel the same.
Btw, while the mirrors are official sites, why couldn't kernel.org automatically redirectly the requests to their mirrors according to clients' origin? I'm sure the cost of running kernel.org would be significantly lowered.
Technically it's feasible because many people has already done this for commercial servers. Is there any difficulties(political? Legal? Ownership?) make it impossible?
Just wonder.
Why does the kernel go through stable and then unstable forks? Can't it always be a stable build, like with Windows
and call the patches "expansion" or "enhancement"!
Don't forget to replace all -pre to -prerelease or -earlybird too!
While Microsoft 'embrace and extend' Linux/BSD's technologies, why couldn't we 'embrace and extend' their marketing tricks?