Please tell me where you took this class so that I can be sure not to go.
IE6 is really not so bad when you have the right DTD (AND that DTD is the first thing in the document), but Mozilla and Opera are consistently ahead in CSS support, and older versions of IE are supporting an incomplete XSL draft.
Well... this has been addressed for the most part in WinXP / OS X with the classic skin. I know that one complaint about the Win XP implementation has been that smaller scrollbars aren't inherited, but that's beside the point that there is an implementation that uses native widgets.
I should say (though I'm sure that it's also said on here somewhere else) that IE isn't a fully native (widgets-wise) app either.
Nobody because the damn thing looks NOTHING like a Mac case. It doesn't have the 4 handles like a Mac case, the drive covers aren't nearly as seamless, it doesn't open like a Mac case, the drives don't floor mount like a Mac case. It seems to have that slippery covering like a Mac case but I'm inclined to think that even that is a subpar knockoff.
Pathetic... and I'm not even a big Mac fan, I'd hate to hear what they have to say.
No.. You just need to try harder, or do it differently. Sure, I have a site that works a little better in IE (the TD background color is changable - remotely - in IE, as a highlight, while not in Opera/NS), but if I used an image instead, it would work just fine.
Try assigning a class to that TD and then assigning a hover value to it. Or even doing a p hover. Some derivative of that should work on NS 6+ or Mozilla.
Well personally I think that the vast majority of Flash "developers" are misusing Flash. There is very little Flash that I've seen that was even neccessary. Try surfing the web without Flash for a week and then ask yourself what you're really missing. I found that I was missing nothing. And man Flash navigation in general is a pet peeve.
Just for the record, I like Flash. As a presentation tool it can be a Godsend. It just has too many limitations (can't resize, recolor, or otherwise modify text, no default settings that I know of - like always disabling sound, can't control navigation - i.e. opening links in new windows, can't search text via the find function, and so forth and so on) for doing any serious data presentation. It's great for audio synching like you said, and it's cool that you can make flash apps as standalone apps too. I just wish that these graphic / multimedia designers would understand that designing for the web requires more than a simple title change.
[blockquote]#2 Web development is a field that constantly strives towards providing applications level functionality that rivals and imitates desktop software. DHTML and SQL are how we make those happen.Regardless of who makes it, IE exceeds css standards, and pushes the envelope for what will come in the next standards. Its a joy to use![/blockquote]
Yeah I love the way that IE exceeds at fixed positioning...
It's like some of these people don't know what good design is. Total content accessibility via graceful degradation is an art that is totally lost on some of these pretenders that call themselves web designers.
XP also has a built-in Terminal Server. So I can work on my workstation from home using the same client that I use to manage my servers from home. All out of the box. For me at this juncture, this is the ONLY reason to run XP.
Uhhh... first of all its a 10 MB download. Once you download it you just type:
regsvr32 mozctlx.dll
And voila. I'm sure that there is a place where you can download the DLL by itself (it's an 8k file). It is designed as a drop in replacement for the mshtml.dll. So you can give the the same name as your IE control in your app and it will work perfectly. The only caveat has to do with scripting the browser output I think.
Yeah IE5's box model has some serious issues. IE6 will emulate that brokeness too unless you include a transtitional+ DTD. I found that out the hard way. Dreamweaver MX's XHTML templates put the DTD below the XML declaration and causes IE to ignore it. Making IE 6 render like IE5. Moving the DTD up to the top of the page fixes that though.
Uhhh... I have never had Dreamweaver generate IE Specific code. A List Apart had an article a few weeks ago on how to make it generate valid XHTML code (by closing BR tags and automatically inserting DTDs).
It's not surprising that you didn't answer his question because what you're saying is simply not true. Between IE5.5 and 6 (Windows), Opera 6, and Netscape 6, the IE browsers have the most incomplete CSS implementations. They don't even render fixed CSS backgrounds (CSS1 stuff here) properly.
Will you people get off of the version number crap please? Remember Dreamweaver Ultradev 2.0 or 3.0? No? That's because it went from 1.0 to 4.0 to achieve parity with Dreamweaver standard. MS Visual J++ and Visual Interdev went from 1.0 to 6.0 in less than a year just for the sake of Microsoft marketing Visual Studio "6.0".
I thought that the 7.0 thing was strange at first too. But I've gotten over it... you all can too...
I am a Kubrick fan and loved ACO but I agree that it is borderline. I would rather see A.I. there in its stead because like 2001 it asks what I think is the greatest scientific question of all: How does science relate to God?
Uhhhhh...I don't think that humanity was saved at the end of 12 Monkeys. As a matter of fact, things seem to go the exact same way that they had before. The first scene is the young hero seeing himself die. The next to last scene is the same thing. The villan gets on the plane and has a very interesting conversation with a woman who turns out to be one of the "Scientists" (an insurance salesman at the time - heh).
Nevertheless I agree that it was still an awesome movie and is right up there with Gattaca, Blade Runner, and 2001 as my favorite Sci Fi films ever.
Ghost in the Shell is definitely better (and more relevant) Sci Fi than Akira and any early Star Trek movie should have overtaken Star Wars (since the latter isn't Sci Fi.
Let me chime in on this one as well. Gattaca is definitely a top 5 selection. Maybe one of the most brilliantly understated films ever, an attribute which has to have heightened value in a Sci Fi film.
MY question is why is Star Wars there? Star Wars is so blatantly fantasy that it really has more resemblence to Lord of the Rings than 2001.
I was scanning the replies to see if anybody else caught that before I posted. I used to work for a ver ubiquitous electronics retailer that loved to ask for your name and address. We had a few unscrupulous employees there that would go through the receipts at the end of the day and record credit card numbers with the bonus catch of their name, address, and in many cases their phone number.
The company tried to wise up by not printing the address on the ticket but it just took a quick dive into the computer system to retrieve this information. I know for a fact that nothing has changed at this company and I can only imagine what others are like.
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Amen brother.
Please tell me where you took this class so that I can be sure not to go.
IE6 is really not so bad when you have the right DTD (AND that DTD is the first thing in the document), but Mozilla and Opera are consistently ahead in CSS support, and older versions of IE are supporting an incomplete XSL draft.
Except for the fact that clicking a checkbox in preferences vs. downloading and installing ANYTHING is easier for said user.
..and lets not forget the broken fixed positioning.
Well... this has been addressed for the most part in WinXP / OS X with the classic skin. I know that one complaint about the Win XP implementation has been that smaller scrollbars aren't inherited, but that's beside the point that there is an implementation that uses native widgets.
I should say (though I'm sure that it's also said on here somewhere else) that IE isn't a fully native (widgets-wise) app either.
Nobody because the damn thing looks NOTHING like a Mac case. It doesn't have the 4 handles like a Mac case, the drive covers aren't nearly as seamless, it doesn't open like a Mac case, the drives don't floor mount like a Mac case. It seems to have that slippery covering like a Mac case but I'm inclined to think that even that is a subpar knockoff.
Pathetic... and I'm not even a big Mac fan, I'd hate to hear what they have to say.
Well personally I think that the vast majority of Flash "developers" are misusing Flash. There is very little Flash that I've seen that was even neccessary. Try surfing the web without Flash for a week and then ask yourself what you're really missing. I found that I was missing nothing. And man Flash navigation in general is a pet peeve.
Just for the record, I like Flash. As a presentation tool it can be a Godsend. It just has too many limitations (can't resize, recolor, or otherwise modify text, no default settings that I know of - like always disabling sound, can't control navigation - i.e. opening links in new windows, can't search text via the find function, and so forth and so on) for doing any serious data presentation. It's great for audio synching like you said, and it's cool that you can make flash apps as standalone apps too. I just wish that these graphic / multimedia designers would understand that designing for the web requires more than a simple title change.
[blockquote]#2 Web development is a field that constantly strives towards providing applications level functionality that rivals and imitates desktop software. DHTML and SQL are how we make those happen.Regardless of who makes it, IE exceeds css standards, and pushes the envelope for what will come in the next standards. Its a joy to use![/blockquote]
Yeah I love the way that IE exceeds at fixed positioning...
It's like some of these people don't know what good design is. Total content accessibility via graceful degradation is an art that is totally lost on some of these pretenders that call themselves web designers.
XP also has a built-in Terminal Server. So I can work on my workstation from home using the same client that I use to manage my servers from home. All out of the box. For me at this juncture, this is the ONLY reason to run XP.
Uhhh... first of all its a 10 MB download. Once you download it you just type:
regsvr32 mozctlx.dll
And voila. I'm sure that there is a place where you can download the DLL by itself (it's an 8k file). It is designed as a drop in replacement for the mshtml.dll. So you can give the the same name as your IE control in your app and it will work perfectly. The only caveat has to do with scripting the browser output I think.
Yeah IE5's box model has some serious issues. IE6 will emulate that brokeness too unless you include a transtitional+ DTD. I found that out the hard way. Dreamweaver MX's XHTML templates put the DTD below the XML declaration and causes IE to ignore it. Making IE 6 render like IE5. Moving the DTD up to the top of the page fixes that though.
FWIW...
Uhhh... I have never had Dreamweaver generate IE Specific code. A List Apart had an article a few weeks ago on how to make it generate valid XHTML code (by closing BR tags and automatically inserting DTDs).
Uhhh no... A.I. instead of A clockwork Otange...
It's not surprising that you didn't answer his question because what you're saying is simply not true. Between IE5.5 and 6 (Windows), Opera 6, and Netscape 6, the IE browsers have the most incomplete CSS implementations. They don't even render fixed CSS backgrounds (CSS1 stuff here) properly.
Will you people get off of the version number crap please? Remember Dreamweaver Ultradev 2.0 or 3.0? No? That's because it went from 1.0 to 4.0 to achieve parity with Dreamweaver standard. MS Visual J++ and Visual Interdev went from 1.0 to 6.0 in less than a year just for the sake of Microsoft marketing Visual Studio "6.0".
I thought that the 7.0 thing was strange at first too. But I've gotten over it... you all can too...
CTRL PgUp and CTRL PgDn
I am a Kubrick fan and loved ACO but I agree that it is borderline. I would rather see A.I. there in its stead because like 2001 it asks what I think is the greatest scientific question of all: How does science relate to God?
Uhhhhh.. .I don't think that humanity was saved at the end of 12 Monkeys. As a matter of fact, things seem to go the exact same way that they had before. The first scene is the young hero seeing himself die. The next to last scene is the same thing. The villan gets on the plane and has a very interesting conversation with a woman who turns out to be one of the "Scientists" (an insurance salesman at the time - heh).
Nevertheless I agree that it was still an awesome movie and is right up there with Gattaca, Blade Runner, and 2001 as my favorite Sci Fi films ever.
Ghost in the Shell is definitely better (and more relevant) Sci Fi than Akira and any early Star Trek movie should have overtaken Star Wars (since the latter isn't Sci Fi.
Let me chime in on this one as well. Gattaca is definitely a top 5 selection. Maybe one of the most brilliantly understated films ever, an attribute which has to have heightened value in a Sci Fi film.
MY question is why is Star Wars there? Star Wars is so blatantly fantasy that it really has more resemblence to Lord of the Rings than 2001.
Uhhhh that's in Episode 2 buddy...
Which BTW just happened to kick all breeds of ass...
We're going to get an RC3 too.
Thank you!!
I was scanning the replies to see if anybody else caught that before I posted. I used to work for a ver ubiquitous electronics retailer that loved to ask for your name and address. We had a few unscrupulous employees there that would go through the receipts at the end of the day and record credit card numbers with the bonus catch of their name, address, and in many cases their phone number.
The company tried to wise up by not printing the address on the ticket but it just took a quick dive into the computer system to retrieve this information. I know for a fact that nothing has changed at this company and I can only imagine what others are like.