My dual 1 gig G4 system runs both IE and Mozilla on OS X without a hitch. I prefer Mozilla simply because I can rely on it being the same on PC and Mac, a distinction that IE is far from being able to claim. It is awesome on OS X though (it actually supports fixed backgrounds in divs! Still not as well as Mozilla though). The tabs keep me going back to the lizard though...
I mostly agree with you, but i just wanted to say that a full version of WinXP pro (comprable to OS/2) is around $300. Mac OS is like $100, Linux is Free to maybe $100 or so for a good workstation distro, Be was around $60. Windows IS expensive, but they give OEMs ridiculous deals on it (of course those deals come with the stipulation of tying that Windows license to the workstation that it is sold with) so maybe it doesn't seem like it.
Right, right... and the FCC didn't just declare that cable operators don't have to share their pipes..
Actually the FCC said that cable companies did not have to share their pipes unless the government ordered them to. Guess who fits into that category...
Been there done that. I keep getting this form reply asking about my OS Version and Browser. I tell them Win2K / Mozilla and they ask for it again! Suckers.
Netscape announced this before the AOL acquisition. As a matter of fact, there was wide speculation that the Mozilla project would be shut down as a result. There is an e-mail from Steve Case on mozilla.org addressing this concern. To AOL's credit, they (AFAIK) let the project continue more or less as it was before. I know that there were some layoffs not long ago and many Netscape employees quit early on, but I don't think that these things had a lot to do with a lack of support from AOL. Someone please correct me if they know better.
Sure about that? I ran across this article the other day on Google explaining how to degrade websites and it makes several references to IE 1.0. The article is from 1997.
I meant that AOL's ditching of IE in favor of Gecko was inevitable. Especially in light of the breakdown in negotiations between the two companies over the AOL client in Gecko.
IE 6 opens a new window at about same speed mozilla creates a new tab (pretty impressive), but IE6 doesn't have that "middle mouse button opens link in new window" feature so overall IE loses.
AMEN! I get totally annoyed nowadays running IE. I click the middle mouse button and get that little circle with the arrows inside of it. On my Athlon Classic 750 with 512 MB of RAM at home and my P III 850 with 256 MB of RAM at work, Mozilla runs great. If it had LDAP, Roaming Profiles, and a bug-free textarea, I would not even dream of using IE for my Capital One banking (dammit).
Though honestly it seems like the only time I ever use IE nowadays is by accident. Not that it's bad, but Mozilla just makes the browsing experience better. I would use it even if the speed issues that I've heard so much about (and remember in the distant past) existed for me.
The poster is not talking about roaming the network, they are talking about roaming the Internet. Netscape 4.5+ has a feature where your netscape user profile can be made available over the Internet, so you can have all of your bookmarks and etc. in one centralized location if you'd like. This feature alone is what keeps a large number of NS4.x users put.
Yeah well Tribes didn't have any kind of legacy behind it. Not that Quake has ever been reknowned for great single player modes, but it is obvious that huge efforts were made along those lines in Q2. To totally abandon that aspect of the game for Quake 3 was definitely a chance.
And now we all wonder why they didn't do it sooner.
True but I'll bet that more students are in the demographic group that buy the most music. Look at the top 20 Albums out right now and tell me if students aaren't the main ones supporting these groups.
It would be nice if you guys stated which version of Netscape you were using. Netscape 6.x really minimizes many of those issues. It has its own set true enough, but it is much more competitive (and embeddible) overall than NS 4.x.
What I am saying is that IIS IS NOT INSTALLED BY DEFAULT IN WINDOWS 2000 PROFESSIONAL. It must be consciously selected. As many times as I've installed it (Win2K Pro) on my personal box and gotten pissed off when I tried to access http://localhost and get an error I can vouch for this. Not that it's a bad thing, just a fact of the matter.
I am telling you, IIS is NOT installed by default on Win2K pro, I just spent 6 months testing it for a deployment at my job and know way more than I wish I did about the OS and how it installs. Your clients may have selected to have it installed during setup, or may have upgraded installs that had PWS installed, but a clean Win2K Pro install does NOT install IIS.
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My dual 1 gig G4 system runs both IE and Mozilla on OS X without a hitch. I prefer Mozilla simply because I can rely on it being the same on PC and Mac, a distinction that IE is far from being able to claim. It is awesome on OS X though (it actually supports fixed backgrounds in divs! Still not as well as Mozilla though). The tabs keep me going back to the lizard though...
Okay so what about the other 50+ countries in Africa? Miami is in the U.S., is the U.S. predominately Latin?
Yeah and don't forget that SMIL and SVG are both XML specs that do much of the same as Flash.
Uhhh... I know that ASP does this. Displays data as it comes that is. Unless you have the response.buffer (or something like that) enabled.
Tried Optimoz?
I mostly agree with you, but i just wanted to say that a full version of WinXP pro (comprable to OS/2) is around $300. Mac OS is like $100, Linux is Free to maybe $100 or so for a good workstation distro, Be was around $60. Windows IS expensive, but they give OEMs ridiculous deals on it (of course those deals come with the stipulation of tying that Windows license to the workstation that it is sold with) so maybe it doesn't seem like it.
Since many of the primary Mozilla developers are from Netscape, Redhat, and IBM, I don't think that you are making a fair assumption.
Tell that to the makers of Final Fantasy.
Actually the FCC said that cable companies did not have to share their pipes unless the government ordered them to. Guess who fits into that category...
Been there done that. I keep getting this form reply asking about my OS Version and Browser. I tell them Win2K / Mozilla and they ask for it again! Suckers.
Netscape announced this before the AOL acquisition. As a matter of fact, there was wide speculation that the Mozilla project would be shut down as a result. There is an e-mail from Steve Case on mozilla.org addressing this concern. To AOL's credit, they (AFAIK) let the project continue more or less as it was before. I know that there were some layoffs not long ago and many Netscape employees quit early on, but I don't think that these things had a lot to do with a lack of support from AOL. Someone please correct me if they know better.
Sure about that? I ran across this article the other day on Google explaining how to degrade websites and it makes several references to IE 1.0. The article is from 1997.
I meant that AOL's ditching of IE in favor of Gecko was inevitable. Especially in light of the breakdown in negotiations between the two companies over the AOL client in Gecko.
Sorry for my convoluted sentence structure. =o)
No problems here. So the future is bright. =o)
uhhh Mozilla and Opera support iframes. It's actually part of one of the XHTML specifications (loose I think... or is it just frameset?).
IE 6 opens a new window at about same speed mozilla creates a new tab (pretty impressive), but IE6 doesn't have that "middle mouse button opens link in new window" feature so overall IE loses.
AMEN! I get totally annoyed nowadays running IE. I click the middle mouse button and get that little circle with the arrows inside of it. On my Athlon Classic 750 with 512 MB of RAM at home and my P III 850 with 256 MB of RAM at work, Mozilla runs great. If it had LDAP, Roaming Profiles, and a bug-free textarea, I would not even dream of using IE for my Capital One banking (dammit).
Though honestly it seems like the only time I ever use IE nowadays is by accident. Not that it's bad, but Mozilla just makes the browsing experience better. I would use it even if the speed issues that I've heard so much about (and remember in the distant past) existed for me.
NS 4.x touted a different kind of roaming profile than you're talking about. This may help though.
The poster is not talking about roaming the network, they are talking about roaming the Internet. Netscape 4.5+ has a feature where your netscape user profile can be made available over the Internet, so you can have all of your bookmarks and etc. in one centralized location if you'd like. This feature alone is what keeps a large number of NS4.x users put.
Sold more worldwide maybe... this article is about domestic sales. I think that FFX is in at a little over 1 mil in the U.S.
And how much do these guys get paid?
*Hoping that they're talking about console games*
Yeah well Tribes didn't have any kind of legacy behind it. Not that Quake has ever been reknowned for great single player modes, but it is obvious that huge efforts were made along those lines in Q2. To totally abandon that aspect of the game for Quake 3 was definitely a chance.
And now we all wonder why they didn't do it sooner.
True but I'll bet that more students are in the demographic group that buy the most music. Look at the top 20 Albums out right now and tell me if students aaren't the main ones supporting these groups.
It would be nice if you guys stated which version of Netscape you were using. Netscape 6.x really minimizes many of those issues. It has its own set true enough, but it is much more competitive (and embeddible) overall than NS 4.x.
What I am saying is that IIS IS NOT INSTALLED BY DEFAULT IN WINDOWS 2000 PROFESSIONAL. It must be consciously selected. As many times as I've installed it (Win2K Pro) on my personal box and gotten pissed off when I tried to access http://localhost and get an error I can vouch for this. Not that it's a bad thing, just a fact of the matter.
I am telling you, IIS is NOT installed by default on Win2K pro, I just spent 6 months testing it for a deployment at my job and know way more than I wish I did about the OS and how it installs. Your clients may have selected to have it installed during setup, or may have upgraded installs that had PWS installed, but a clean Win2K Pro install does NOT install IIS.