This really is very cool stuff, and although I'm as suprised as everyone else about Oracle releasing open-source software (GPL nonetheless), it's another huge step forward.
if memory serves me correctly oracle announced a while back that it (the company) was going to be running on Linux starting this spring. It make a lot of sense to release the lib's to make it happen back to the community because now companies are more likely to be able to afford oracle software due to reduced licensing costs on Linux. thinking of FireWire only as a DV bus is like thinking of SCSI as only a scanner bus.
And you never know who will be behind the question. Some laywer could take a case on contingency, while getting significant behind the scenes support from an enemy of open-source software.
It will not be up to Linus, it'll be between the distributer, reciever and what the courts and the lawyers come up with. GPL'd Embedded systems could be particualry sticky in court, it's probably easier to get a judge or jury to understand seperate files on a disk than on a rom file system.
Maybe Demiurg's company sould consider one of the BSD OSes
Card readers can't be that hard and it seems that NIS+ is a good start on the rest of it, but I'm not really a network guy. I can't see how it would take that much glue to put it together. DUH Linux has X-windows We can log into our "home" machine and run anything we want and display on any other X-Windows machine on the network. just need to clean up some security issues.
Most users have so little training in using computers, the hardest thing for them to learn in migrating to linux is to only single-click the desktop icons, and to give it a second because the browser isn't 90% pre-load during boot-up. My estimate is power-users will adapt quickly, and most of the rest will hardly notice. Teach them how to copy and paste and change screen res on the fly and most people will think Linux is the greatest thing since sliced bread.
Javascript is a language, and there is even a stand-alone implimentation. Javascript is embedded in other programs, it's just not popular for other uses.
I think it is/was also used for server-side stuff in netscape's webserver
I have to agree in principal, but as the resident computer geek in a dental office, I've found that it can take two days to convince users that outgoing via SMTP and incoming via POP3 are two seperate things. An other problem I've found is explaining that the mouse being jerky while the email client is downloading a 14MB load of Emails through a WIFI network connected a WinME machine running a DirectPC link isn't a computer problem. I've mostly thought of Emails as an electronic equivalent to a post-it note rather than a more formal publication, the goal is communicating, not publishing
something akin to keyword matching ME: Do you you block out-bound SMTP traffic AOL: Sir AOL doesn't block Email ME: Well I can send mail out through my personal ISP through the website, but can not when connected to the internet through AOL. AOL: Are you sure the website is configured properly, we aren't responsable for websites ME:yes the website is configured properly, I can send Email from my Linux computer to the site through My personal ISP, and I can send Email from this Windows machine to the site through My personal ISP, but I can not I can send Email from this Windows machine to the site through AOL. AOL: AOL doesn't suppport Linux ME: My boss just doesn't belive me when I told him that AOL probably blocks outbound email to external servers as a SPAM prevention measure. Do you or do you not block SMTP on port 25 from going to non-AOL mail servers? AOL: Yes sir, that is one of our Email abuse prevention measures.
The point you are missing is that open-source SW shifts you from an economy of scarcity to an economy of abundance. You have to consider a few additional points.
Getting Linux to work on a machine with 65K processors is going to take considerable work, right now I think Linux's sweet-spot is 8 processors.
When the ship this monster, they have to make the source available! We get it back even if they don't what the source released. What will they say send us $3000.00 for shipping and handling and we'll send you a 10,000 pages of source code listing on paper?
I'd be suprised if the supercomputer market is going to be a get rich market, it's just to small. The point of build supercomputers is more break-even and gain bragging rights for your mid-range machines. Any real money is going to come frome servers and workstations. Anyone want a 32 CPU chip in their workstation?
There is nothing wrong with making money of other peoples labors, as long as you are up-front about it and not using coertion to do it. I though take a little, give a little was a core Open-source value
Complaints about profit sharing sound sound a little whiney.
The Geographic Resources Analysis and Support System (GRASS) Geographic Information System (GIS) is Copyright by the GRASS Development Team headquartered at Baylor University, in Waco, Texas.
This program is free software; you can redistribute it and/or modify it under the terms of the GNU General Public License as published by the Free Software Foundation; either version 2 of the License, or (at your option) any later version.
The government uses this program at almost every installation, maps produced by GRASS tells every instalation about things like where various endamgered species are nesting and just about everything else related to enviromental impact. Replacing this one program with a commercial alternative (if it even exists) would be prohibitive.
Before they start attacking GPL'ed software they had better do an audit, they'd be cutting off their noses to spite their faces.
I have to agree, I don't think the GPL is good for a knee-jerk one-size fits all license. Depending on what you are doing the LGPL is better, especialy if some commercialization is anticipated. The only thing I don't like about the BSD license is you can fullfill it's requirement almost invisably. I'd rather the Congress criters would have said something like use some sense in licenseing so the maximum benefit to all taxpayers is achieved.
United States Patent 6,289,319 Lockwood September 11, 2001 Inventors: Lockwood; Lawrence B. (5935 Folsom Dr., La Jolla, CA 92037) Appl. No.: 347270 Filed: November 30, 1994
the gist of this seems to be that the USPTO took 6 years and 11 months to approve this patent! I think the art priori is from the conception date not the filing or granting date. typicaly an inventor will make a draft of his idea and mail it to himself using the postmark as proof of conception date. More technicaly savy will do it on a computer and publish the MD5SUM in the news paper for proof. just noticed the granting date in preview, 9/11/2001!
I think its entirely legal to counter-sue for damages such as legal expensives, cost of lost opertunity for the time the principals spend preping for the ligiation rather than tending to business. I'm not sure why this is not done more often.
Separate infrastructure from services completely. Let your regional ILEC become an entity that does only one thing...own copper. Thats it. Maybe you wouldn't really have to go that far. If the infrastructure portion was self-sustaining, charging everybody the same fee's whether it was themselves or somebody else; giving everybody the same installation cycles and access their regulatory environment would lessen considerably.
I started with slackware, but switched to SUSE because at the time it had the software I wanted on the CD's. Lately I've had a lot of troubles getting patches from SuSE or their mirrors. I'm leanning toward going with debian but haven't decided. Anyone have comments on ease of getting and installing patches with the various distro's out there? Is budget constrates hurting everyone's bandwidth or just SUSe's
right after the Grenade invasion the DoD hired some civilian systems analyst and programers to devise a communication system so that the Entire armed forces could communicate with everybody else, Army, Navy, Marines and Air Force it was called JINTACS. Jintacs was almost exactly like XML all the forms defined, opening tags, closing tags, data in the middle the works. You could send it by text plain or encrypted or even voice. They killed it, they did it by teaching how to do it. Our Army unit spent an entire two days teaching the Battlion how to send a Naval mine laying report. I shutter to think about what the Navy taught their people. Jintacs just went away with no explaination due to user resistance
my old Battlion machine gun team (1/125th Infantry) used to reload and relink their own ammo for practice, they won the Army championship about 15 yrs ago.It's not that hard to do, but running 300 rounds at full cyclic rate will burn up a barrel real quick. I think each barrel is taxed as if it were a whole gun if your a civilian
The second ammendment clearly points to the need to regulate guns, Wrong the 2nd clearly points to the need to well regulate the militia which were all able-bodied adult males who had the right to keep and bear arms as there were no standing armies at the time. Well regulated Militia as in Army Regulation Sorry ladies it's historical not me. I served in the Army and National Guard with many fine women with whom I would go into combat with.
More on topic, rifle/pistol balistics change with use and are not that hard to change on purpose. A database would not be that helpful.
All of those Flower-Children could be in charge of growing spiderwort at the site. see radiation detector if you don't understand the joke. Seriously I've never heard of a nuclear power plant that didn't grow lots of spiderwort, they believe in back-up systems
In fact the only real hard statement, Linux, which is even newer than Windows is wrong if I remember correctly Linux was arround when windows386 was out, and I know I was using Linux before Windows95 was released because I remeber waiting to send in the free upgrade certificate on my first pentium machine. windows 3.10 was not an operating system by any means it was a windowing enviroment built on top of DOS. Are they realy saying that Windows XP has anything to do with 16 bit windows 3.10? I might buy an argument that Windows NT - Windows 2000 - Windows XP represent a line of evolution, but Windows 3.10 doesn't belong in there .
The types of questions asked in an interview could cause a judge to be swayed by the media's bias I think Lawyers use this tactic in court enough, asking a obviously biased question to a witness that a judge who has seen this a thousand times would be fairly immune to its effect unlike a first time juror. That's like arguing that the court was biased in Microsoft's favor because they require that documents be submited in MS doc format. (Just guessing about the required part but I'd bet a dollar to a donut hole I'm right)
Communism and democracy are not mutually exclusive, Communism/Socialism requires democracy, in all Communist nations that I know of voting was required by law.
Democracy seems to work very well in small New England towns and tribal circles, but it doesn't scale well; remember Hittler, and Stalin were democraticaly elected at a cost of 31 Million lives.
Even micro$oft's desktop paradigm agrees with this; a desktop is only secure when the office door is closed and locked. I guess that's while I bristle a bit when people talk about Linix/unix desktops; they are better fitted to the workstation paradigm a place to do serious work, with a few locking drawers for security. The mini/mainframe is like a bank vault very secure not everone in the office is allowed in and only good for specialized work.
Of course all of the paradigms are shifting desktops are blending into the workstation area, workstations are blending into both the desktop and mainframe domains and SuSE is selling linux for IBM S390's.
Mundie said "...it is only in the last ten years that Microsoft has attempted to play in the security-requiring worlds of banking payroll and networked systems."
so the desktop has tried for only ten years, then subtract out work on proprietary projects when BSD had the equivalent running better and more securely; this realy makes them the new kids on the block.
Back 1976 one of my friends dialed a wrong number on the computer and was completely flabergasted when another computer answered, now it's hard for the grandkids to call grandma because she's always on the internet.
I run seti@haome continuously, and the main reason I do it isn't in hope of finding an extraestrial signals of inteligent origin, but to find any extraterestial signals of unexplained or unknown origin. New natural phenonia or evidence of predicted but un-observed phenomia is much more likely than an ET phone home message. the machine runs 24x7 anyways, no reason to shut Linux down each night or what ever and the internet is always on so why not cruch some data?
Well if you sent K&R c to a ANSI C compiler that would be a more apropriate analogy. The paer you send to your english teacher is expected to communicate to her in a particular format, the way she tought you.
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This really is very cool stuff, and although I'm as suprised as everyone else about Oracle releasing open-source software (GPL nonetheless), it's another huge step forward.
if memory serves me correctly oracle announced a while back that it (the company) was going to be running on Linux starting this spring. It make a lot of sense to release the lib's to make it happen back to the community because now companies are more likely to be able to afford oracle software due to reduced licensing costs on Linux. thinking of FireWire only as a DV bus is like thinking of SCSI as only a scanner bus.
And you never know who will be behind the question. Some laywer could take a case on contingency, while getting significant behind the scenes support from an enemy of open-source software.
It will not be up to Linus, it'll be between the distributer, reciever and what the courts and the lawyers come up with. GPL'd Embedded systems could be particualry sticky in court, it's probably easier to get a judge or jury to understand seperate files on a disk than on a rom file system.
Maybe Demiurg's company sould consider one of the BSD OSes
Card readers can't be that hard and it seems that NIS+ is a good start on the rest of it, but I'm not really a network guy. I can't see how it would take that much glue to put it together.
DUH Linux has X-windows We can log into our "home" machine and run anything we want and display on any other X-Windows machine on the network. just need to clean up some security issues.
Most users have so little training in using computers, the hardest thing for them to learn in migrating to linux is to only single-click the desktop icons, and to give it a second because the browser isn't 90% pre-load during boot-up. My estimate is power-users will adapt quickly, and most of the rest will hardly notice. Teach them how to copy and paste and change screen res on the fly and most people will think Linux is the greatest thing since sliced bread.
Javascript is a language, and there is even a stand-alone implimentation. Javascript is embedded in other programs, it's just not popular for other uses.
I think it is/was also used for server-side stuff in netscape's webserver
I have to agree in principal, but as the resident computer geek in a dental office, I've found that it can take two days to convince users that outgoing via SMTP and incoming via POP3 are two seperate things. An other problem I've found is explaining that the mouse being jerky while the email client is downloading a 14MB load of Emails through a WIFI network connected a WinME machine running a DirectPC link isn't a computer problem.
I've mostly thought of Emails as an electronic equivalent to a post-it note rather than a more formal publication, the goal is communicating, not publishing
something akin to keyword matching
ME: Do you you block out-bound SMTP traffic
AOL: Sir AOL doesn't block Email
ME: Well I can send mail out through my personal ISP through the website, but can not when connected to the internet through AOL.
AOL: Are you sure the website is configured properly, we aren't responsable for websites
ME:yes the website is configured properly, I can send Email from my Linux computer to the site through My personal ISP, and I can send Email from this Windows machine to the site through My personal ISP, but I can not I can send Email from this Windows machine to the site through AOL.
AOL: AOL doesn't suppport Linux
ME: My boss just doesn't belive me when I told him that AOL probably blocks outbound email to external servers as a SPAM prevention measure. Do you or do you not block SMTP on port 25 from going to non-AOL mail servers?
AOL: Yes sir, that is one of our Email abuse prevention measures.
Complaints about profit sharing sound sound a little whiney.
The government uses this program at almost every installation, maps produced by GRASS tells every instalation about things like where various endamgered species are nesting and just about everything else related to enviromental impact. Replacing this one program with a commercial alternative (if it even exists) would be prohibitive.
Before they start attacking GPL'ed software they had better do an audit, they'd be cutting off their noses to spite their faces.
I have to agree, I don't think the GPL is good for a knee-jerk one-size fits all license. Depending on what you are doing the LGPL is better, especialy if some commercialization is anticipated. The only thing I don't like about the BSD license is you can fullfill it's requirement almost invisably. I'd rather the Congress criters would have said something like use some sense in licenseing so the maximum benefit to all taxpayers is achieved.
Actualy I thought Edison patented a practical light bulb, so his patent was for improving an existing patent.br?
United States Patent 6,289,319 Lockwood September 11, 2001
Inventors: Lockwood; Lawrence B. (5935 Folsom Dr., La Jolla, CA 92037) Appl. No.: 347270 Filed: November 30, 1994
the gist of this seems to be that the USPTO took 6 years and 11 months to approve this patent! I think the art priori is from the conception date not the filing or granting date.
typicaly an inventor will make a draft of his idea and mail it to himself using the postmark as proof of conception date. More technicaly savy will do it on a computer and publish the MD5SUM in the news paper for proof. just noticed the granting date in preview, 9/11/2001!
>This type of extortion should be punished.
I think its entirely legal to counter-sue for damages such as legal expensives, cost of lost opertunity for the time the principals spend preping for the ligiation rather than tending to business. I'm not sure why this is not done more often.
Separate infrastructure from services completely. Let your regional ILEC become an entity that does only one thing...own copper. Thats it. Maybe you wouldn't really have to go that far. If the infrastructure portion was self-sustaining, charging everybody the same fee's whether it was themselves or somebody else; giving everybody the same installation cycles and access their regulatory environment would lessen considerably.
I started with slackware, but switched to SUSE because at the time it had the software I wanted on the CD's. Lately I've had a lot of troubles getting patches from SuSE or their mirrors. I'm leanning toward going with debian but haven't decided. Anyone have comments on ease of getting and installing patches with the various distro's out there? Is budget constrates hurting everyone's bandwidth or just SUSe's
right after the Grenade invasion the DoD hired some civilian systems analyst and programers to devise a communication system so that the Entire armed forces could communicate with everybody else, Army, Navy, Marines and Air Force it was called JINTACS. Jintacs was almost exactly like XML all the forms defined, opening tags, closing tags, data in the middle the works. You could send it by text plain or encrypted or even voice.
They killed it, they did it by teaching how to do it. Our Army unit spent an entire two days teaching the Battlion how to send a Naval mine laying report. I shutter to think about what the Navy taught their people. Jintacs just went away with no explaination due to user resistance
my old Battlion machine gun team (1/125th Infantry) used to reload and relink their own ammo for practice, they won the Army championship about 15 yrs ago.It's not that hard to do, but running 300 rounds at full cyclic rate will burn up a barrel real quick. I think each barrel is taxed as if it were a whole gun if your a civilian
The second ammendment clearly points to the need to regulate guns,
Wrong the 2nd clearly points to the need to well regulate the militia which were all able-bodied adult males who had the right to keep and bear arms as there were no standing armies at the time. Well regulated Militia as in Army Regulation
Sorry ladies it's historical not me. I served in the Army and National Guard with many fine women with whom I would go into combat with.
More on topic, rifle/pistol balistics change with use and are not that hard to change on purpose. A database would not be that helpful.
All of those Flower-Children could be in charge of growing spiderwort at the site. see radiation detector if you don't understand the joke. Seriously I've never heard of a nuclear power plant that didn't grow lots of spiderwort, they believe in back-up systems
In fact the only real hard statement, Linux, which is even newer than Windows is wrong if I remember correctly Linux was arround when windows386 was out, and I know I was using Linux before Windows95 was released because I remeber waiting to send in the free upgrade certificate on my first pentium machine. windows 3.10 was not an operating system by any means it was a windowing enviroment built on top of DOS. Are they realy saying that Windows XP has anything to do with 16 bit windows 3.10? I might buy an argument that Windows NT - Windows 2000 - Windows XP represent a line of evolution, but Windows 3.10 doesn't belong in there
.
The types of questions asked in an interview could cause a judge to be swayed by the media's bias
I think Lawyers use this tactic in court enough, asking a obviously biased question to a witness that a judge who has seen this a thousand times would be fairly immune to its effect unlike a first time juror. That's like arguing that the court was biased in Microsoft's favor because they require that documents be submited in MS doc format. (Just guessing about the required part but I'd bet a dollar to a donut hole I'm right)
Communism and democracy are not mutually exclusive, Communism/Socialism requires democracy, in all Communist nations that I know of voting was required by law.
Democracy seems to work very well in small New England towns and tribal circles, but it doesn't scale well; remember Hittler, and Stalin were democraticaly elected at a cost of 31 Million lives.
The mini/mainframe is like a bank vault very secure not everone in the office is allowed in and only good for specialized work.
Of course all of the paradigms are shifting desktops are blending into the workstation area, workstations are blending into both the desktop and mainframe domains and SuSE is selling linux for IBM S390's.
so the desktop has tried for only ten years, then subtract out work on proprietary projects when BSD had the equivalent running better and more securely; this realy makes them the new kids on the block.
Back 1976 one of my friends dialed a wrong number on the computer and was completely flabergasted when another computer answered, now it's hard for the grandkids to call grandma because she's always on the internet.
I run seti@haome continuously, and the main reason I do it isn't in hope of finding an extraestrial signals of inteligent origin, but to find any extraterestial signals of unexplained or unknown origin. New natural phenonia or evidence of predicted but un-observed phenomia is much more likely than an ET phone home message. the machine runs 24x7 anyways, no reason to shut Linux down each night or what ever and the internet is always on so why not cruch some data?
Well if you sent K&R c to a ANSI C compiler that would be a more apropriate analogy. The paer you send to your english teacher is expected to communicate to her in a particular format, the way she tought you.