I can remember a very recent one, W2K3 server; by cutting out the eye-candy and switching services off by default W2K3 server runs on significantly less resource than XP.
I admit, not enough so that I would actually want to run windows as a server, but Microsofts strength is in usability, and that means a GUI, which means resource hogging
I think its more likely more due to the fact that they are differnt pieces of software performing (slightly) different functions, written by different people, using different languages.
I'm sorry madam, you appear to have dropped your handbag, would you like me to pick it up for you...
And your reply obviously goes to show my initial comments concerning your unecessary flaming. Grow up.
(oh, I live in a £750,000 home... thats about 1.5M of your dollars, thats because I wasn't fixing minicomputers when you were "pissing diapers", I was busy).
No, he shouldn't ask those questions, because this is "Ask Slashdot" not "Flame me into oblivion becasue I've tried to ask a complex question in a single paragraph"
Oh, and your comment of "In short, you're probably not a geek" just makes me think; grow up and move out of your mothers basement becasue I can't WAIT to see you get a new asshole ripped in the real world.
Honestly, its numnuts like you who really piss me off.
To paraphrase; there are no stupid questions, just stupid answers. You know what, that was possibly the stupidest answer I have ever heard
OK, sorry about the NTFS/ Samba thing - I was trying to get across how an NT server may have certain permissions on a shared directory - how would I get from point A - NT server, via point B - Documented through to point Z - migrated with Samba taking on the same permissions.
The sendmail point was a knee jerk reaction on my part - open exchange is a better alternative, which is why I ASKED SLASHDOT - but with the same valid points; getting from point A to point Z
oh, and AD uses LDAP, its a protocol. This would be a migration from AD to similar or better functionality through Samba/ OpenLDAP etc (once again, this is why I ASKED SLASHDOT)
I take your points onboard but I didn't really want to get into an essay for my comment. You obviously did.
Erm, the reason they need to "grow up" is so that their software can be introduced and recognised in corporations.
Me "I really think we should roll out Firefox to all our desktops" CIO "Why" Me "Well its much more secure than IE, conforms with stanmdards and in the long run wil save us from the scourge for Malware" CIO " Whats this thing about hemp cookies being delicious" Me "You're right, I suppose everyone would be much more comfortable using IE as they are used to it and it doesnt have any silly easter eggs (any more)"
It's too technical though...
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OK, for a living I migrate companies from Microsoft to FOSS, be it migrating servers, databases, directories or MSOffice to OO
My biggest hurdle is convincing people that just because something is "different", its not "hard"... it's just different.
The problem I see here is that an Office Productivity Package should be easy to use; have you ever created a template in MS Office, click an icon. However to create a template in Open Office, you need to hack XML.
THIS is where Open Office (and its use of Open Standards) fails. Users (even power users) are going to have one look at an XML sheet and want to go back to MS.
Yes, XML is the standard, but it should still have a "pretty" GUI for 99% of the people who are going to use it.
If you are a company with multiple sites connected over a WAN or VPN, the traffic between sites will already be encrypted so the portion of the pipe that is used for voice is encrypted too; sure if someone breaks that ALL your data is going to be accessable
If however you are a company with staff working form home or in client offices, skype could still be used by connecting to a VPN.
Security only becomes an issue when communication occurs between an insecure terminal and company offices
However, having said that, Voice is never really going to be cracked these days. Its much easier for a script kiddie to grep for a load of credit cards than listening to a real-time voice conversation for juicy information.
Consult wiki and ye shall receive
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Slashdot_subculture
The most commonly accepted origin of this phrase appeared in the May 7, 2000 Simpsons episode "Last Tap Dance in Springfield". In the episode, the phrase is used when Professor Frink makes a pair of self-tap-dancing shoes for Lisa. After she dances, he points out that they were really in the "off" position, and that she had tap-danced by herself. Homer replies, "What are you talking about, Professor Frink? They're clearly in the 'on' position. See? 'On'." Professor Frink then says, "I was merely trying to spare the girl's feelings, you insensitive clod."
All "current" practical functionality has been patented, how about ideas and design that hasn't yet been thought of.
When Charles Babbage came up with his Difference Engine, did he think "Wow, all this needs is a mouse and a graphical UI", nope, that came later.
Although I cant believe I'm saying it (just playing devils advocate I suppose) but perhaps all this patenting may lead to some designers thinking out-of-the-box with their next UI/ Human Interface
Yes, but the cost of the PC will come down with this version of XP, making it more affordable. You can then wipe the HDD and install whatever OS you want (be it Linux, a cracked copy of XP or something else).
The Lindows PC's at Wallmart are the same - the OEM's HAVE to put an OS on there or Microsoft's legal dept will start crying "pirate" so they are trying to put the cheapest one possible on so the consumer pays less and MS still gets paid something.
When you consider how tech-unsavvy most people are (especially those who use cyber-cafés in the far east) I even think you'll be surprised how many of these units will still run XP SE... I hope you'll also be surprised how many are running Linux and how few will be running XP Pirated Edition
What about services or background apps; my windows box runs software like antivirus on startup (as it should) but also what about dhcpd or similar. It also defaults to running things like MSNMessenger on startup and if I actually want to launch software myself MSOutlook also uses word as its default editor... there are 2 more programs starting as 1
If the standard windows build was limited to just 3 apps it wouldn't even start up so how are "programs" classified?
I don't know about the USA, but in the UK, you don't even have to play the "this call may be..." message. However, the caller must still be informed of a recording taking place, so you will hear the occasional soft beep during the conversation.
Moores Law is an exponential law; it just cant go on doubling exponentially, there has to be a ceiling at which the technology being used reaches its peak.
Think of it like accelerating your car. 2mph, 4mph, 8mph, 16mph, 32mph... you are increasing your speed exponentially, but even that 5.7 V10 is going to max out at some point. IANAM, but I'm sure there is a name for this.
Also from TFA, this hasn't happened yet, chip designers are just being more intelligent about how they boost speed (not just cycles, but cache, multi-threading etc).
However, I'm sure that within the next few years silicon will have given us all it can... long live grid computing
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I can remember a very recent one, W2K3 server; by cutting out the eye-candy and switching services off by default W2K3 server runs on significantly less resource than XP.
I admit, not enough so that I would actually want to run windows as a server, but Microsofts strength is in usability, and that means a GUI, which means resource hogging
"and there are perks to being in the office (lunches, massages, etc.)"
Dude, I want to work where you work!
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Damn, and I've got mod points... I just dont know how to use them on your post.
And now I cant use them at all
And Emacs uses more memory than Vi
Word uses more memory than Notepad
Firefox uses more memory than Safari
I think its more likely more due to the fact that they are differnt pieces of software performing (slightly) different functions, written by different people, using different languages.
Just a guess!
I'm sorry madam, you appear to have dropped your handbag, would you like me to pick it up for you...
And your reply obviously goes to show my initial comments concerning your unecessary flaming. Grow up.
(oh, I live in a £750,000 home... thats about 1.5M of your dollars, thats because I wasn't fixing minicomputers when you were "pissing diapers", I was busy).
Honestly, what a prick
No, he shouldn't ask those questions, because this is "Ask Slashdot" not "Flame me into oblivion becasue I've tried to ask a complex question in a single paragraph"
Oh, and your comment of "In short, you're probably not a geek" just makes me think; grow up and move out of your mothers basement becasue I can't WAIT to see you get a new asshole ripped in the real world.
Honestly, its numnuts like you who really piss me off.
To paraphrase; there are no stupid questions, just stupid answers. You know what, that was possibly the stupidest answer I have ever heard
Thanks clickster/ j-turkey, couldn't have explained the problem or the solution better myself (despite what passthecrackpipe may think)
Exaclty what I was referring to
The sendmail point was a knee jerk reaction on my part - open exchange is a better alternative, which is why I ASKED SLASHDOT - but with the same valid points; getting from point A to point Z
oh, and AD uses LDAP, its a protocol. This would be a migration from AD to similar or better functionality through Samba/ OpenLDAP etc (once again, this is why I ASKED SLASHDOT)
I take your points onboard but I didn't really want to get into an essay for my comment. You obviously did.
Erm, the reason they need to "grow up" is so that their software can be introduced and recognised in corporations.
Me "I really think we should roll out Firefox to all our desktops"
CIO "Why"
Me "Well its much more secure than IE, conforms with stanmdards and in the long run wil save us from the scourge for Malware"
CIO " Whats this thing about hemp cookies being delicious"
Me "You're right, I suppose everyone would be much more comfortable using IE as they are used to it and it doesnt have any silly easter eggs (any more)"
OK, for a living I migrate companies from Microsoft to FOSS, be it migrating servers, databases, directories or MSOffice to OO
My biggest hurdle is convincing people that just because something is "different", its not "hard"... it's just different.
The problem I see here is that an Office Productivity Package should be easy to use; have you ever created a template in MS Office, click an icon. However to create a template in Open Office, you need to hack XML.
THIS is where Open Office (and its use of Open Standards) fails. Users (even power users) are going to have one look at an XML sheet and want to go back to MS.
Yes, XML is the standard, but it should still have a "pretty" GUI for 99% of the people who are going to use it.
It really depends how VOIP is set up.
If you are a company with multiple sites connected over a WAN or VPN, the traffic between sites will already be encrypted so the portion of the pipe that is used for voice is encrypted too; sure if someone breaks that ALL your data is going to be accessable
If however you are a company with staff working form home or in client offices, skype could still be used by connecting to a VPN.
Security only becomes an issue when communication occurs between an insecure terminal and company offices
However, having said that, Voice is never really going to be cracked these days. Its much easier for a script kiddie to grep for a load of credit cards than listening to a real-time voice conversation for juicy information.
Consult wiki and ye shall receive http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Slashdot_subculture The most commonly accepted origin of this phrase appeared in the May 7, 2000 Simpsons episode "Last Tap Dance in Springfield". In the episode, the phrase is used when Professor Frink makes a pair of self-tap-dancing shoes for Lisa. After she dances, he points out that they were really in the "off" position, and that she had tap-danced by herself. Homer replies, "What are you talking about, Professor Frink? They're clearly in the 'on' position. See? 'On'." Professor Frink then says, "I was merely trying to spare the girl's feelings, you insensitive clod."
About 5 years ago, McDonalds in Japan were giving away mobile phones with food
OK, I use the word "food" vaguely, but you catch my drift
Just beat me to the obvious point. Ever since mobile/ cell phones have had the abiolity to connect to POP3, I have had a "Blackberry-Like" product.
Perhaps Nokia should get litigous on RIM?
I agree, more OT :)
Yes, but you're still thinking about using monitors and handheld devices for your UI/ HI
To quote Back to the Future II "You use your hands, thats a kids toy"
Sorry about the source of the reference, but oh so apt
Erm, no
All "current" practical functionality has been patented, how about ideas and design that hasn't yet been thought of.
When Charles Babbage came up with his Difference Engine, did he think "Wow, all this needs is a mouse and a graphical UI", nope, that came later.
Although I cant believe I'm saying it (just playing devils advocate I suppose) but perhaps all this patenting may lead to some designers thinking out-of-the-box with their next UI/ Human Interface
Yes, but the cost of the PC will come down with this version of XP, making it more affordable. You can then wipe the HDD and install whatever OS you want (be it Linux, a cracked copy of XP or something else).
The Lindows PC's at Wallmart are the same - the OEM's HAVE to put an OS on there or Microsoft's legal dept will start crying "pirate" so they are trying to put the cheapest one possible on so the consumer pays less and MS still gets paid something.
When you consider how tech-unsavvy most people are (especially those who use cyber-cafés in the far east) I even think you'll be surprised how many of these units will still run XP SE... I hope you'll also be surprised how many are running Linux and how few will be running XP Pirated Edition
Also, what classes as a program?
What about services or background apps; my windows box runs software like antivirus on startup (as it should) but also what about dhcpd or similar. It also defaults to running things like MSNMessenger on startup and if I actually want to launch software myself MSOutlook also uses word as its default editor... there are 2 more programs starting as 1
If the standard windows build was limited to just 3 apps it wouldn't even start up so how are "programs" classified?
I don't know about the USA, but in the UK, you don't even have to play the "this call may be..." message. However, the caller must still be informed of a recording taking place, so you will hear the occasional soft beep during the conversation.
Moores Law is an exponential law; it just cant go on doubling exponentially, there has to be a ceiling at which the technology being used reaches its peak.
Think of it like accelerating your car. 2mph, 4mph, 8mph, 16mph, 32mph... you are increasing your speed exponentially, but even that 5.7 V10 is going to max out at some point. IANAM, but I'm sure there is a name for this.
Also from TFA, this hasn't happened yet, chip designers are just being more intelligent about how they boost speed (not just cycles, but cache, multi-threading etc).
However, I'm sure that within the next few years silicon will have given us all it can... long live grid computing
Heh, now thats actually funeeeee
Point to point is a protocol for connecting devices over the internet e.g. over a VPN using point to point tunneling protocol
P2P is peer-to-peer e.g. for downloading... erm... Linux iso's, yeh, Linux iso's
Sod it, I'll bite
Just put 2 of the smaller cartridges in your pen... voila
however, I dont think I've used a pen since 1993 (when I finished university)
"type" of command line
gettit
I'll get my coat