Why is reading an industrially printed novel less wrong than using a notebook-computer? How about listening to an audio-book? Or classical music? Would that be okay?
Is it because these devices use electricity and the book-device doesn't?
Are ebooks morally wrong, too?
Please enlighten me, I own a lot (as in walls with shelves) books, but I don't get why the technological invention "book" is good as is the technological invention "pen" and the technological invention "notebook computer" is inherently bad.
Maybe you should talk to some of Gutenbergs contemporarys about your concepts?
bombs, that's what I expect to be invented during the next decade.
An absolutely new aspect of atomic boobs.
An implanted bomb should be hardly discoverable through the detection of volatile substances. So the only way to detect it would be an x-ray or mrt or similar at the gate.
These images could then be used for health screenings, thus terrorists would help to increase the public health:-)
> but why do I need a wireless printer? Or a wireless monitor? Or anything else that's largely static for its lifetime?
Because I'm not static in my lifetime.
If I chose to working in the living room, I still can send a printjob to the printer (which is connected to the server that's on the WLAN). I still can checkin code to the repository, if I'm working in the garden (under the sunscreen, thanks to display technology that still sucks.) Now I want to be able to have access to the external display when I'm at my desk and to have my Powerbook automagically backup to the external disks when I'm at my desk.
Without having to plug something in.
And when I'm at the high desk next to my regular desk (try it, it's great for your back), cables are always too short.
Headset, Cellphone-sync, Network, Mouse are wireless yet.
I would really like to get rid of the wires for 1..3 and to be able to make a automated regular backup to the disks on my desk without having to plugin the external disks.
Since one can buy a 4GB SD-Card the size of a stamp I'd think that the distribution of HUGE OTPs is a lot easier nowadays. If Alice has initial physical access to Bob, of course.
> yet a software reinstall fresh from scratch fixes many of those problems. > What does that tell you caused the problems?
It tells me that your friend is not a competent Mac-Technician. A re-install might be the preferred way to fix a Windows sytem, but it is almost never necessary to reinstall a MacOSX-Box. I've used OSX since public beta and have at least a little experience in fixing OSX-boxen.
> What does that tell you caused the problems? Some malware running on the machine is what.
And it tells me that you're jumping to conclusions.
I haven't seen any rootkit in the wild yet and I don't consider a php-flaw some OSX-related problem because it is nothing that comes pre-activated/installed on your box.
A different beast are Word-Macro-Viruses on OSX - at least theoretically - though even those seem to be close to irrelevant still.
If you like it or not, OSX is extremely secure against outside attacks - inherently and out of the box.
And given the fact that anybody who'd write and publish an efficient OSX-worm would be famous, I highly doubt that OSX is just "safe because of the low market share."
You must not be aware that there are different wavelengths in the spectrum of EM radiation. It makes a difference if you have an infrared telescope (JWST) or a telescope for near IR / visible / UV (HST).
> hacks it and uses it to write some malware which only damages people who own a genuine copy of Windows.
Though I'm a regular MS-Basher I'd guess that MS uses electronic signatures to avoid this scenario. You'd not only have to hijack the victims connection to MS (eg. by DNS-Spoofing) but you'd have to provide the appropriate signature for the malcontent you want to install.
Otoh: If there are the usual number of buffer overflows you might be able to remotely take control of the process, but you'd still have to make it contact your server instead of MS' servers before.
> (after all, stealing is to get it for free, no?)
No, this is a common mistake. At least in Germany stealing is taking away some movable thing of substance without the consent of the owner and with the intent of not giving it back. Copyright infringement is not stealing. "Stealing music" is not possible.
> Of course your socialist state wouldn't own up to it's own faults, much
> easier to put the blame squarely on capitalism.
Yes, every other government than your government is lead by evil socialists.
Just - I didn't say that it was the corporations fault that fascism took over in Germany / Europe.
I said that it's the responsibility of corporations which regimes they deal with and support. But I understand that this is a little to difficult for you to differentiate.
If I understand your other points correctly, you say that
it was absolutely okay for the IG-Farben to deliver the cyanide for the murder of millions (because the concentration camps were build already by the government)
it was absolutely okay for the Degussa to find good business in the gold from the teeth of dead jews (because they were dead already)
all the companies who made good profit from slave-labor, well, it was the current german law and the people where imprisoned so why shouldn't they profit from their imprisonment?
having eg. an US-American company erect the Berlin wall would have been a good business case
having international companies erect the great internet-wall of china is a good business case
dealing with the organs of executed dissidents is a good business case
seeing a problem in these points is a socialist / liberal / communist / pencilneck thing
I'm quite happy then that you aren't the leader of the free world. Wait, are you?
> "Hans, run the numbers, whats the ROI on slaughtering an ethnic group here! :-) A very good guess about what the nazis where about partly.
Guess how much of jewish valuables ended up in "aryan" hands... It's always about the money.
k2r
Yes, that's why it's absolutely okay that companies made profit from collaboration with the Nazi-Regime in Germany. Melting jewish golden teeth into bars is a good deal to improve shareholder value.
I learned at school in Germany that companies are responsible for the politics they support by their actions and that this is one of the lessons to learn from my countrys past. But obviously my teachers were wrong.
I'll go investing into some company dealing with the organs of executed chinese people now.
Since all Diesel-Cars made by Volkswagen from 1996 to 2003 have been capable of using Biodiesel and even the Motors produced after 2003 are available Biodiesel-ready on request it seems as if there was no really difficult problems in using pure Biodiesel.
So basically you are telling me that the "Land of the free", the "leader of the free world", the country that was capable of doing somthing as impossible as sending men to the moon multiple times with just relais and some transistors is incapable of switching to renewable / alternative energy sources and to saving energy in a nationwide effort.
Because this investment into the technologies of the future/might/ harm your economy? Becoming the leading force in windcraft/watercraft/energy saving/whatever is not worth it? Because everyone will just go on using oil (at $70 per Barrel today)?
And because China and India might go on polluting our air your country will join them?
Your country had to go quite some way from being the land of the possibillities, the country that could achive all to where it is now.
Does this mind anybody else of the last episode of "Dinosaurs"?
Fran: "We understand, Earl." Baby: "Understand what?" Earl: "Well, little guy, your daddy got put in charge of the world, and he didn't take very good care of it, and now it looks like there's not going to be much of a world to live in for you and your brother and sister." Baby: "Are we gonna move?" Earl: "Well, no, there's no place to move to, this is the only world we got." Robbie: *to Baby* "But no matter what happens, nobody's going to leave you." Charlene: "That's right, little guy." Earl: "Yeah, it'll be allright, you'll see. Dinosaurs have been around for millions of years, and it's not like we're all gonna just...disappear."
Oh, of course my friends and me are absolutely aware of the important part the soviets played in WW2. My posting was not about "who played an important role in WW2" but about "who is bragging constantly". My Australian friends didn't say "WE were the most important party against Hitler" but "The US brags about it's role in WW2 in an non-adequate way. There were a lot more parties involved a lot earlier than the US that don't feel as if this gives them a special authority in the world in 2006."
I didn't try to mention all parties. Maybe I didn't mention the Russians because their historical role in WW2 is common knowlegde in Germany. If you'd ask who fought in WW2 against Hitler, most people would mention GB, USA and Russia.
> Another example you might be more familiar with is the intro sequence to Enterprise.
I'm absolutely aware of these things and they constantly annoy me.
So, I don't think that our views differ very much in these points but that you misunderstood my intention. It's not too easy for me to have a sufficiently sophisticated discussion in English.
AFAIK the Pravda online has got nothing to do with the printed pravda we know from cold war times. "Pravda" just means "truth" (?) and pravda.ru is just as relevant as any other weird online tabloid.
Could somebody in the know tell if there are any connections?
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> What is wrong with reading a book
Why is reading an industrially printed novel less wrong than using a notebook-computer?
How about listening to an audio-book? Or classical music? Would that be okay?
Is it because these devices use electricity and the book-device doesn't?
Are ebooks morally wrong, too?
Please enlighten me, I own a lot (as in walls with shelves) books, but I don't get why the technological invention "book" is good as is the technological invention "pen" and the technological invention "notebook computer" is inherently bad.
Maybe you should talk to some of Gutenbergs contemporarys about your concepts?
k2r
bombs, that's what I expect to be invented during the next decade.
:-)
An absolutely new aspect of atomic boobs.
An implanted bomb should be hardly discoverable through the detection of volatile substances.
So the only way to detect it would be an x-ray or mrt or similar at the gate.
These images could then be used for health screenings, thus terrorists would help to increase the public health
k2r
You have interesting ideas so I'll go back into my corner and take with me your wonderful phrase "to tattoo all over the host memory using DMA. "
k2r
> but why do I need a wireless printer? Or a wireless monitor? Or anything else that's largely static for its lifetime?
Because I'm not static in my lifetime.
If I chose to working in the living room, I still can send a printjob to the printer (which is connected to the server that's on the WLAN).
I still can checkin code to the repository, if I'm working in the garden (under the sunscreen, thanks to display technology that still sucks.)
Now I want to be able to have access to the external display when I'm at my desk and to have my Powerbook automagically backup to the external disks when I'm at my desk.
Without having to plug something in.
And when I'm at the high desk next to my regular desk (try it, it's great for your back), cables are always too short.
Cables seriously suck.
k2r
When I'm at my desk i plug into my Powerbook
0) Power
1) External monitor
2) USB-Scanner
3) external Firewire Disks
Headset, Cellphone-sync, Network, Mouse are wireless yet.
I would really like to get rid of the wires for 1..3 and to be able to make a automated regular backup to the disks on my desk without having to plugin the external disks.
k2r
> exploit was at the card driver level
Yep, and we still haven't been told which card driver they installed.
That it wasn't the one Apple provided should be obvious - they would have used the buildin Apple Wireless, then.
k2r
Too bad, so it's most likely xcode3 DP1 on the wwdc-dvd and 2.4 for productive use.
k2r
> are they finally going to ship GNUFortran pre-built,
:-)
> or are we still going to be downloading the source-tree each time?
I guess that both of you are still out of luck
k2r
https://connect.apple.com/ seems to be down...
I had got a "We apologize for the inconveniences.." minutes ago, know I get nothing.
It's not that updating would make any sense for me till I finish my current work on wednesday, but I'm just too curious...
How dare they not to provide enough bandwidth to satisfy a million drooling developers simultanuously?
k2r
and nobody's talking about
...
"xcode 3.0 released today"
k2r
> OTP has two huge problems
> 1. Key distribution
Since one can buy a 4GB SD-Card the size of a stamp I'd think that the distribution of HUGE OTPs is a lot easier nowadays.
If Alice has initial physical access to Bob, of course.
k2r
It's a remarkable =5% which is - as an absolute number - truly remarkable compared to the =1% of new information in the referenced article.
k2r
> yet a software reinstall fresh from scratch fixes many of those problems.
> What does that tell you caused the problems?
It tells me that your friend is not a competent Mac-Technician. A re-install might be the preferred way to fix a Windows sytem, but it is almost never necessary to reinstall a MacOSX-Box.
I've used OSX since public beta and have at least a little experience in fixing OSX-boxen.
> What does that tell you caused the problems? Some malware running on the machine is what.
And it tells me that you're jumping to conclusions.
I haven't seen any rootkit in the wild yet and I don't consider a php-flaw some OSX-related problem because it is nothing that comes pre-activated/installed on your box.
A different beast are Word-Macro-Viruses on OSX - at least theoretically - though even those seem to be close to irrelevant still.
If you like it or not, OSX is extremely secure against outside attacks - inherently and out of the box.
And given the fact that anybody who'd write and publish an efficient OSX-worm would be famous, I highly doubt that OSX is just "safe because of the low market share."
k2r
> You must not be aware of JWST
You must not be aware that there are different wavelengths in the spectrum of EM radiation.
It makes a difference if you have an infrared telescope (JWST) or a telescope for near IR / visible / UV (HST).
k2r
> hacks it and uses it to write some malware which only damages people who own a genuine copy of Windows.
Though I'm a regular MS-Basher I'd guess that MS uses electronic signatures to avoid this scenario.
You'd not only have to hijack the victims connection to MS (eg. by DNS-Spoofing) but you'd have to provide the appropriate signature for the malcontent you want to install.
Otoh: If there are the usual number of buffer overflows you might be able to remotely take control of the process, but you'd still have to make it contact your server instead of MS' servers before.
k2r
IANAL but it's essential for "theft" (in GermanyAFAIK) that the owner does not have acccess to the item afterwards.
Since the RIAA can sell as many copies as before even if I downloaded 10000 mp3's this is hardly theft.
It's copyright infringement or "Urheberrechtsverletzung", but not rape, murder, terrorism, trespassing or theft.
k2r
> (after all, stealing is to get it for free, no?)
No, this is a common mistake.
At least in Germany stealing is taking away some movable thing of substance without the consent of the owner and with the intent of not giving it back.
Copyright infringement is not stealing.
"Stealing music" is not possible.
k2r
> easier to put the blame squarely on capitalism.
Yes, every other government than your government is lead by evil socialists.
Just - I didn't say that it was the corporations fault that fascism took over in Germany / Europe.
I said that it's the responsibility of corporations which regimes they deal with and support. But I understand that this is a little to difficult for you to differentiate.
If I understand your other points correctly, you say that
I'm quite happy then that you aren't the leader of the free world. Wait, are you?
> "Hans, run the numbers, whats the ROI on slaughtering an ethnic group here!
:-) A very good guess about what the nazis where about partly.
Guess how much of jewish valuables ended up in "aryan" hands... It's always about the money. k2r
Yes, that's why it's absolutely okay that companies made profit from collaboration with the Nazi-Regime in Germany. Melting jewish golden teeth into bars is a good deal to improve shareholder value.
I learned at school in Germany that companies are responsible for the politics they support by their actions and that this is one of the lessons to learn from my countrys past.
But obviously my teachers were wrong.
I'll go investing into some company dealing with the organs of executed chinese people now.
k2r
Since all Diesel-Cars made by Volkswagen from 1996 to 2003 have been capable of using Biodiesel and even the Motors produced after 2003 are available Biodiesel-ready on request it seems as if there was no really difficult problems in using pure Biodiesel.
k2r
So basically you are telling me that the "Land of the free", the "leader of the free world", the country that was capable of doing somthing as impossible as sending men to the moon multiple times with just relais and some transistors is incapable of switching to renewable / alternative energy sources and to saving energy in a nationwide effort.
/might/ harm your economy? Becoming the leading force in windcraft/watercraft/energy saving/whatever is not worth it? Because everyone will just go on using oil (at $70 per Barrel today)?
Because this investment into the technologies of the future
And because China and India might go on polluting our air your country will join them?
Your country had to go quite some way from being the land of the possibillities, the country that could achive all to where it is now.
k2r
Does this mind anybody else of the last episode of "Dinosaurs"?
Fran: "We understand, Earl."
Baby: "Understand what?"
Earl: "Well, little guy, your daddy got put in charge of the world, and he didn't take very good care of it, and now it looks like there's not going to be much of a world to live in for you and your brother and sister."
Baby: "Are we gonna move?"
Earl: "Well, no, there's no place to move to, this is the only world we got."
Robbie: *to Baby* "But no matter what happens, nobody's going to leave you."
Charlene: "That's right, little guy."
Earl: "Yeah, it'll be allright, you'll see. Dinosaurs have been around for millions of years, and it's not like we're all gonna just...disappear."
Oh, of course my friends and me are absolutely aware of the important part the soviets played in WW2. My posting was not about "who played an important role in WW2" but about "who is bragging constantly". My Australian friends didn't say "WE were the most important party against Hitler" but "The US brags about it's role in WW2 in an non-adequate way. There were a lot more parties involved a lot earlier than the US that don't feel as if this gives them a special authority in the world in 2006."
I didn't try to mention all parties.
Maybe I didn't mention the Russians because their historical role in WW2 is common knowlegde in Germany.
If you'd ask who fought in WW2 against Hitler, most people would mention GB, USA and Russia.
> Another example you might be more familiar with is the intro sequence to Enterprise.
I'm absolutely aware of these things and they constantly annoy me.
So, I don't think that our views differ very much in these points but that you misunderstood my intention.
It's not too easy for me to have a sufficiently sophisticated discussion in English.
k2r
I didn't mention the Soviets or Russia...
AFAIK the Pravda online has got nothing to do with the printed pravda we know from cold war times. "Pravda" just means "truth" (?) and pravda.ru is just as relevant as any other weird online tabloid.
Could somebody in the know tell if there are any connections?
k2r