I hold the belief that the mind is a giant (infinite dimensions) relational database where everything can potentially be "related" to something else. Understanding the mind like this, I find that the effect of Marijuana is that it increases the number and diversity of relationships I'm able to mentally build between ideas at any given moment. This is what some would call "creativity." The caveat is that while my creativity is enhanced, those relationships become tenative at best. It helps to think of the mind as a chemical machine, and like any chemical machine there's a limited amount of energy it has to perform certain tasks, such as building these relationships between ideas. So the amount of a chemical used to build these relationships in your mind is being used to create more relationships than it usually would, making those relationships created under the influence of marijuana fragile and short-term. In short: Marijuana increases the diversity of thoughts you possess and how you relate them to one another, but it also reduces your ability to retain those thoughts related to one another in that fashion.
You know how they say that in Perl there's always more than one way to do it? On Marijuana you run the risk of noticing every single way.
I'd like to see how they plan on monitoring my mage as it talks to your cleric in some obscure, nearly impossible to reach (unless you're level 50) corner of our favorite MUD."
By monitoring the plain text you're sending and receiving as you play while it passes through one of a dozen routers between you and the MUD server? You've never heard of Carnivore, have you? Just because to you there's a logical virtual world created which "contains" you and this other guy as you chat away, you're not really "there." you're just three IPs (you, the other guy, the server) and you're all passing traffic on various ports in plain text. The only things that matter in this scenario are: IPs, Ports, Text. Level 50? Doesn't matter. Elf? Nope, doesn't matter either. Grand Wizard? Sorry, no, also doesn't matter. IP. Port. Text.
If you meet somebody on IRC you can connect to them directly with DCC (DCC stands for Direct client-to-client). No intermediaries, no servers, just you and the other guy. Now suppose DCC comes with built-in 2048 bit encryption. This is not two guys playing everquest talking about making pipe bombs (again, in plain text...), this is bigger. This is more along the lines of what the government doesn't like: secret communications they can't listen in on but are right under their nose. Tangentially, I bet that a lot of terrorism is organized on IRC networks.
Are you mature enough to understand that every person has a sexual side and recognize the beauty of such relationships?
Are you mature enough to understand that the personal details of somebody's life are for those who are personally involved in it?
Let's say you're gay, your parents are hardline catholics and they don't know about it, and you get hit by a bus. Your parents go into your email and find out about your boyfriend, who calls two days later only to be called "satan's butt-maniac" who "drove our lovely son to homosexual madness you sick bastard."
Let's say you've got a girlfriend who has rape fantasies (this is actually more prevalent than you might think, a lot of women like the notion of being overpowered by somebody close to them) but your parents are white, middle class, conservative, closed-minded folks that you keep your personal life (and girlfriend) away from. You, hit by a bus, them, in your email. Oh look, pictures of Janey tied down to the bed with whip marks on her, oh look that love letter she sent you about that time you pushed your "largeness" in her "naughty hole" and she "came four times like a bad little bitch."
and so on. There's a difference between the "I love you" letters that soldiers write during a war and the kinds of stuff average people actually DO these days.
So I ask again, are you mature enough to know that private matters are best kept private? It's peoples' general lack of understanding that gets in the way of 100% honesty, you know. If I could be totally certain that nothing I said or did would be received with revulsion or fear, I would be 100% honest about my kitten kicking habit. (I'm kidding about the kittens. it's puppies.)
How do you propose we get something like this, which is usually a few kilometers long, into space? The linear accelerator I mean, it's not like one 100 metres long will get you atomic nuclei traveling at 0.999 of lightspeed. The things are usually a few kilometres in size.
So once we've got this system in place to just "turn off" huge ranges of IP for entire countries, who gets to decide when the system gets used? Congress? The president? Somebody with, say, an agenda? Who gets to push the magic "China disappears from teh interweb" button?
The real problem isn't that people need to make a bigger effort against spam. The problem is the spammers. The problem is that there's people out there that view what they're doing as OK. It's not OUR fault for not policing one another more sternly, it's THEIR fault for acting out in such a way that it REQUIRES policing. It's bad behavior, plain and simple, THAT is the problem.
That's like saying the problem with terrorism is that we don't fight against it. No, the problem with terrorism is that there are people out there who can justify mass murder in order to instill fear and trauma in others. The problem there, again, is people just behaving badly.
What I want to know is why you think it's our responsibility to stop somebody from doing something that harasses/annoys/injures us and why you appear to believe that they shouldn't just have the sense to, say, not do it in the first place?
There's no magical way to prevent someone from taking your picture.
Well, I don't know about *magical* but most cameras out there are infrared sensitive, rendering it as a greenish color. So just wear an infrared LED illuminator around your neck or on a headlamp. Or heck, a visible light headlamp--maybe you can overload the CCD in the camera and render it unable to take your picture. Infrared LEDs have the perk of emitting no visible light though, so you would be able to do this rather surreptitiously if you so desired.
If they use IR blocking filters on their lenses though, this little trick is useless.
There's this lady I used to work for who is a naturopathic doctor. I used to fix her computers. Everything would work fine as soon as I got there, everything would work fine while I was there, and then suddenly not more than an hour or two after I left, things would cease working. It has always kind of bothered me. I'm glad I have a real job now, and I don't have to worry about those possessed computers.
*looks at the flat panels and the laptop on his desk*
I don't even have a highschool diploma.
*looks at his security badge*
I do, however, make more money than even my parents do, by doing contract work with a large west-coast company who will remain unnamed. (Starts with an M...)
You'll be fine, kid, you'll be fine.
It's how you are in an interview that gets you a job and it's how you perform during the first few weeks/months that ensures you keep that job. Worry about your interview tactics more than the name of the institution on the piece of paper you're going to get in another few years. If you're shy and you suck at conversation and there's no way you could display enthusiasm for a project, then yes, I concede, go to MIT and let the degree do the talking. Otherwise, let your lips do the talking and your fingers do the walking, and code your way into your position of choice. If I can do it, so can you.
A good stirling is totally self-contained and the pressure of the working fluid creates a fluid bearing within the engine housing. In other words, you don't need fancy synthetic oils, just a well-designed engine with a grand total of ~10 moving parts.
People with back pain get said pain through laborious work. Who works with their back instead of their brain? Why, stupid people of course! So a bunch of people with small brains but hurt backs, seriously, what kind of no-brainer (haha) is this?
You have to say "USA will declare the 'minor' loss of technology a small but necessary consequence of the bombing raids which were required to ensure the freedom and prosperity of oil barons and haliburton and their lovely childrens' trust funds."
Yes, because the asteroids striking North America are so prevalent and so threatening, we should definitely invest in an asteroid defense system. That would totally not be a waste of money!
I said that is the only way to bring peace to the region, not that we should. I said "need" because I believe that it's the only way (thus a necessity) to achieve the goal of peace in the middle east. I have no desire to kill anybody over my ideas. Ignore, yes; kill, no. If we could give the Middle East the finger ("We don't need your stinkin' oil!") without any reprecussions I'd be all for it, but that is an unrealistic idea.
That's right, hell to pay and they'll have plenty of our money to pay it back to us with. Endless amounts of money are funneled out of the USA and into the Middle East without any real checks or balances. They've got oil, we think we need it. Once we stop thinking we need it, we'll stop buying it, then they'll have a little oil and a whole lot of money. What does one do with a little oil and a lot of money? Well buy/build airplanes that drop bombs of course!
I'm sorry, but the Middle East is unfortunately a land beyond hope. There are too many people with too many conflicting ideas who are willing to kill one another over those ideas. The last part is the key, the part where they're willing to kill over their different ideas. We need to nuke them and turn the whole desert into a giant solar panel before the "conflict" in the Middle East will be resolved--I'm not saying we should, I'm saying that is what it would take for there to be peace in the middle east, as thousand-year wars don't just up and get resolved. By acting in the middle east though, we're no better than they are. We might be in a different PLACE but the whole philosophy is the same, you're forcing your ideas on somebody else by either controlling or killing them. A lot of people over there are after power, and they achieve it through instilling fear and committing murder. I don't know if power gives them a hard-on and they go home and stroke after gunning down some civillians or what, but there's some very strong driving force behind this perpetual power-seeking and idea-forcing. It's probably religious: they think that if they do certain things here they'll get certain things in return later from their deity. The Christians do it too, remember that Christianity CAME from the Middle East.
(Parenthetically, Agnosticism/Athiesm/Religion-without-a-deity-who-g ives-you-cool-stuff-in-the-afterlife has to be the best thing since gays. Gays don't make babies, Athiesm doesn't make terrorists. We need more gay athiests (et al).)
We can't find a "physical" basis for consciousness either, but that doesn't mean we're all unconscious. To believe that matter and matter alone (ie, what's on the periodic table) is all that governs our existence is preposterous. To believe that only 50 years after splitting the atom we know everything about how the universe is put together is hyperbole, pure and simple.
It is unlikely that some magic biologically created material could manifest and manipulate some unknown fifth force without either biologists, chemists, or physicists becoming aware of it..
What is thought? Is thought a force? Can you quantify thought in terms of chemicals or atoms? What about an idea? Don't keep thinking inside the box, you're liable to hurt someone.
they're hot punk/alternative women, yo. Pierced, tattooed, and makeupped. Not "mainstream" type girls, and Nintendo is somewhat "mainstream."
That said, I was just yesterday lamenting my lack of an additional $3 because I desired a SG membership. I find that look to be incredibly appealing, but not just in a sexual sense. Their bodies are canvases, they themselves works of art. Not in that oh-I-work-out-and-shave-my-bush-nicely kind of way, but in the there-is-nobody-else-on-the-planet-who-looks-just- like-me way. What is a work of art more than a matter of creative uniqueness; what, even, is a better work of art than a SuicideGirl?
It's not explicitly sexual, it's explicitly beautiful if you're the kind of person that can see the appeal of the "alternative woman" as a work of art.
That said, I would probably sleep with any single one of them (or a small group) if provided the opportunity.
And why do people keep thinking that a human with some kind of modification is either inhuman or subhuman anyway?
Humans are born to biological parents, sans nanobots. Any modification of this human form is a deviation from what it is popularly believed to be human. I think the important commonality is that of sentient consciousness, as we currently believe humans to be the only sentient conscious beings in the known universe capable of communicating with one another within and without their peer group. The overly religious or fanatical may view the body as a temple (and they might be right to do so) and this would prevent them from acknowledging a cyborg as a human, but they could not deny its consciousness, which leads to a conundrum of sorts, as to how you define such a person. They bear traits of humanity and yet they bear traits of inhumanity, so which are they? It's a tough question which I think requires an expansion of terminology. We need new words to describe conscious, sentient life which will be acceptable to all beings; whether biological or mechanical, earth-based or alien.
In the future it will not be a question of "human or not" but a question of "alive or not" and that requires a solid definition of "alive" which transcends the boundaries of biology and of the upper atmosphere.
One possible solution here is to develop a new language which has built-in encryption of some kind or another, which is not exportable. Like compiled executables would be encrypted or whatever. Then you can't outsource those programmers because it would violate the export laws of the USA. Just one possible solution to keep the American programmer workforce running strong.
Only the software need be unencrypted, the data can be decrypted on the fly, or on the user's end with javascript. Maybe the user has a cookie that provides the key to the server, or somesuch.
But that doesn't mean they won't eventually become legally required.
So you're right, not every phone has a vibrate mode, but if it were suddenly required (like it's required that any cellphone--with paid-for service or not--be able to dial 911 and get an emergency services operator) then somebody would step up to the plate technologically and provide a solution to the consumer at the price point they needed. It wouldn't be the first time the passage of a law cost joe america $25.99. Let's face it, if somebody's phone doesn't have a vibrate mode, it probably doesn't have anything else that's on a newer phone, and what a Taiwanese company could cram into a product retailing for twenty six dolla' would be more than enough for these people with their old nonvibrating phones.
So it would work if it were legislated, period. Especially if there was a trade-in program, you trade in your old phone for one that's government complaint, then we ship all the old phones back to the companies who made them so they can refurb them for resale in third-world markets with booming cellular economies. The government could eat the difference ($40B for the war on drugs per year, $80B for the first war in iraq, $120B or somesuch for the current war in iraq, etc. I'm sure they could subsidize some cellphones if some legislation were written up for it).
And then suddenly the public is happy and all phones made henceforth are compliant.
The first definition offered by dictionary.com for "humanity" is: Humans considered as a group; the human race., the second is: The condition or quality of being human., it isn't until the third definition that it mentions anyone being humane.
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I hold the belief that the mind is a giant (infinite dimensions) relational database where everything can potentially be "related" to something else. Understanding the mind like this, I find that the effect of Marijuana is that it increases the number and diversity of relationships I'm able to mentally build between ideas at any given moment. This is what some would call "creativity." The caveat is that while my creativity is enhanced, those relationships become tenative at best. It helps to think of the mind as a chemical machine, and like any chemical machine there's a limited amount of energy it has to perform certain tasks, such as building these relationships between ideas. So the amount of a chemical used to build these relationships in your mind is being used to create more relationships than it usually would, making those relationships created under the influence of marijuana fragile and short-term. In short: Marijuana increases the diversity of thoughts you possess and how you relate them to one another, but it also reduces your ability to retain those thoughts related to one another in that fashion.
You know how they say that in Perl there's always more than one way to do it? On Marijuana you run the risk of noticing every single way.
By monitoring the plain text you're sending and receiving as you play while it passes through one of a dozen routers between you and the MUD server? You've never heard of Carnivore, have you? Just because to you there's a logical virtual world created which "contains" you and this other guy as you chat away, you're not really "there." you're just three IPs (you, the other guy, the server) and you're all passing traffic on various ports in plain text. The only things that matter in this scenario are: IPs, Ports, Text. Level 50? Doesn't matter. Elf? Nope, doesn't matter either. Grand Wizard? Sorry, no, also doesn't matter. IP. Port. Text.
If you meet somebody on IRC you can connect to them directly with DCC (DCC stands for Direct client-to-client). No intermediaries, no servers, just you and the other guy. Now suppose DCC comes with built-in 2048 bit encryption. This is not two guys playing everquest talking about making pipe bombs (again, in plain text...), this is bigger. This is more along the lines of what the government doesn't like: secret communications they can't listen in on but are right under their nose. Tangentially, I bet that a lot of terrorism is organized on IRC networks.
Are you mature enough to understand that the personal details of somebody's life are for those who are personally involved in it?
Let's say you're gay, your parents are hardline catholics and they don't know about it, and you get hit by a bus. Your parents go into your email and find out about your boyfriend, who calls two days later only to be called "satan's butt-maniac" who "drove our lovely son to homosexual madness you sick bastard."
Let's say you've got a girlfriend who has rape fantasies (this is actually more prevalent than you might think, a lot of women like the notion of being overpowered by somebody close to them) but your parents are white, middle class, conservative, closed-minded folks that you keep your personal life (and girlfriend) away from. You, hit by a bus, them, in your email. Oh look, pictures of Janey tied down to the bed with whip marks on her, oh look that love letter she sent you about that time you pushed your "largeness" in her "naughty hole" and she "came four times like a bad little bitch."
and so on. There's a difference between the "I love you" letters that soldiers write during a war and the kinds of stuff average people actually DO these days.
So I ask again, are you mature enough to know that private matters are best kept private? It's peoples' general lack of understanding that gets in the way of 100% honesty, you know. If I could be totally certain that nothing I said or did would be received with revulsion or fear, I would be 100% honest about my kitten kicking habit. (I'm kidding about the kittens. it's puppies.)
don't they have braille terminals? How hard is it to make a 40x25 character braille "display" ?
How do you propose we get something like this, which is usually a few kilometers long, into space? The linear accelerator I mean, it's not like one 100 metres long will get you atomic nuclei traveling at 0.999 of lightspeed. The things are usually a few kilometres in size.
So once we've got this system in place to just "turn off" huge ranges of IP for entire countries, who gets to decide when the system gets used? Congress? The president? Somebody with, say, an agenda? Who gets to push the magic "China disappears from teh interweb" button?
The real problem isn't that people need to make a bigger effort against spam. The problem is the spammers. The problem is that there's people out there that view what they're doing as OK. It's not OUR fault for not policing one another more sternly, it's THEIR fault for acting out in such a way that it REQUIRES policing. It's bad behavior, plain and simple, THAT is the problem.
That's like saying the problem with terrorism is that we don't fight against it. No, the problem with terrorism is that there are people out there who can justify mass murder in order to instill fear and trauma in others. The problem there, again, is people just behaving badly.
What I want to know is why you think it's our responsibility to stop somebody from doing something that harasses/annoys/injures us and why you appear to believe that they shouldn't just have the sense to, say, not do it in the first place?
Well, I don't know about *magical* but most cameras out there are infrared sensitive, rendering it as a greenish color. So just wear an infrared LED illuminator around your neck or on a headlamp. Or heck, a visible light headlamp--maybe you can overload the CCD in the camera and render it unable to take your picture. Infrared LEDs have the perk of emitting no visible light though, so you would be able to do this rather surreptitiously if you so desired.
If they use IR blocking filters on their lenses though, this little trick is useless.
iFone, then?
There's this lady I used to work for who is a naturopathic doctor. I used to fix her computers. Everything would work fine as soon as I got there, everything would work fine while I was there, and then suddenly not more than an hour or two after I left, things would cease working. It has always kind of bothered me. I'm glad I have a real job now, and I don't have to worry about those possessed computers.
*looks out his office window at the lawn*
I don't have a degree.
*looks at the flat panels and the laptop on his desk*
I don't even have a highschool diploma.
*looks at his security badge*
I do, however, make more money than even my parents do, by doing contract work with a large west-coast company who will remain unnamed. (Starts with an M...)
You'll be fine, kid, you'll be fine.
It's how you are in an interview that gets you a job and it's how you perform during the first few weeks/months that ensures you keep that job. Worry about your interview tactics more than the name of the institution on the piece of paper you're going to get in another few years. If you're shy and you suck at conversation and there's no way you could display enthusiasm for a project, then yes, I concede, go to MIT and let the degree do the talking. Otherwise, let your lips do the talking and your fingers do the walking, and code your way into your position of choice. If I can do it, so can you.
You may think you're a hero, but with an indentation style like that you're actually one of the bad guys. A typical, delusional bad guy. :-p
A good stirling is totally self-contained and the pressure of the working fluid creates a fluid bearing within the engine housing. In other words, you don't need fancy synthetic oils, just a well-designed engine with a grand total of ~10 moving parts.
ooh! I have a hypothesis!
People with back pain get said pain through laborious work. Who works with their back instead of their brain? Why, stupid people of course! So a bunch of people with small brains but hurt backs, seriously, what kind of no-brainer (haha) is this?
You're both wrong.
You have to say "USA will declare the 'minor' loss of technology a small but necessary consequence of the bombing raids which were required to ensure the freedom and prosperity of oil barons and haliburton and their lovely childrens' trust funds."
Yes, because the asteroids striking North America are so prevalent and so threatening, we should definitely invest in an asteroid defense system. That would totally not be a waste of money!
I said that is the only way to bring peace to the region, not that we should. I said "need" because I believe that it's the only way (thus a necessity) to achieve the goal of peace in the middle east. I have no desire to kill anybody over my ideas. Ignore, yes; kill, no. If we could give the Middle East the finger ("We don't need your stinkin' oil!") without any reprecussions I'd be all for it, but that is an unrealistic idea.
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g ives-you-cool-stuff-in-the-afterlife has to be the best thing since gays. Gays don't make babies, Athiesm doesn't make terrorists. We need more gay athiests (et al).)
That's right, hell to pay and they'll have plenty of our money to pay it back to us with. Endless amounts of money are funneled out of the USA and into the Middle East without any real checks or balances. They've got oil, we think we need it. Once we stop thinking we need it, we'll stop buying it, then they'll have a little oil and a whole lot of money. What does one do with a little oil and a lot of money? Well buy/build airplanes that drop bombs of course!
I'm sorry, but the Middle East is unfortunately a land beyond hope. There are too many people with too many conflicting ideas who are willing to kill one another over those ideas. The last part is the key, the part where they're willing to kill over their different ideas. We need to nuke them and turn the whole desert into a giant solar panel before the "conflict" in the Middle East will be resolved--I'm not saying we should, I'm saying that is what it would take for there to be peace in the middle east, as thousand-year wars don't just up and get resolved. By acting in the middle east though, we're no better than they are. We might be in a different PLACE but the whole philosophy is the same, you're forcing your ideas on somebody else by either controlling or killing them. A lot of people over there are after power, and they achieve it through instilling fear and committing murder. I don't know if power gives them a hard-on and they go home and stroke after gunning down some civillians or what, but there's some very strong driving force behind this perpetual power-seeking and idea-forcing. It's probably religious: they think that if they do certain things here they'll get certain things in return later from their deity. The Christians do it too, remember that Christianity CAME from the Middle East.
(Parenthetically, Agnosticism/Athiesm/Religion-without-a-deity-who-
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In sum: I totally agree with you.
We can't find a "physical" basis for consciousness either, but that doesn't mean we're all unconscious. To believe that matter and matter alone (ie, what's on the periodic table) is all that governs our existence is preposterous. To believe that only 50 years after splitting the atom we know everything about how the universe is put together is hyperbole, pure and simple.
It is unlikely that some magic biologically created material could manifest and manipulate some unknown fifth force without either biologists, chemists, or physicists becoming aware of it..
What is thought? Is thought a force? Can you quantify thought in terms of chemicals or atoms? What about an idea? Don't keep thinking inside the box, you're liable to hurt someone.
they're hot punk/alternative women, yo. Pierced, tattooed, and makeupped. Not "mainstream" type girls, and Nintendo is somewhat "mainstream."
- like-me way. What is a work of art more than a matter of creative uniqueness; what, even, is a better work of art than a SuicideGirl?
That said, I was just yesterday lamenting my lack of an additional $3 because I desired a SG membership. I find that look to be incredibly appealing, but not just in a sexual sense. Their bodies are canvases, they themselves works of art. Not in that oh-I-work-out-and-shave-my-bush-nicely kind of way, but in the there-is-nobody-else-on-the-planet-who-looks-just
It's not explicitly sexual, it's explicitly beautiful if you're the kind of person that can see the appeal of the "alternative woman" as a work of art.
That said, I would probably sleep with any single one of them (or a small group) if provided the opportunity.
And why do people keep thinking that a human with some kind of modification is either inhuman or subhuman anyway?
Humans are born to biological parents, sans nanobots. Any modification of this human form is a deviation from what it is popularly believed to be human. I think the important commonality is that of sentient consciousness, as we currently believe humans to be the only sentient conscious beings in the known universe capable of communicating with one another within and without their peer group. The overly religious or fanatical may view the body as a temple (and they might be right to do so) and this would prevent them from acknowledging a cyborg as a human, but they could not deny its consciousness, which leads to a conundrum of sorts, as to how you define such a person. They bear traits of humanity and yet they bear traits of inhumanity, so which are they? It's a tough question which I think requires an expansion of terminology. We need new words to describe conscious, sentient life which will be acceptable to all beings; whether biological or mechanical, earth-based or alien.
In the future it will not be a question of "human or not" but a question of "alive or not" and that requires a solid definition of "alive" which transcends the boundaries of biology and of the upper atmosphere.
One possible solution here is to develop a new language which has built-in encryption of some kind or another, which is not exportable. Like compiled executables would be encrypted or whatever. Then you can't outsource those programmers because it would violate the export laws of the USA. Just one possible solution to keep the American programmer workforce running strong.
Only the software need be unencrypted, the data can be decrypted on the fly, or on the user's end with javascript. Maybe the user has a cookie that provides the key to the server, or somesuch.
Just saying "could" though, not "is."
Not every television has a v-chip.
But that doesn't mean they won't eventually become legally required.
So you're right, not every phone has a vibrate mode, but if it were suddenly required (like it's required that any cellphone--with paid-for service or not--be able to dial 911 and get an emergency services operator) then somebody would step up to the plate technologically and provide a solution to the consumer at the price point they needed. It wouldn't be the first time the passage of a law cost joe america $25.99. Let's face it, if somebody's phone doesn't have a vibrate mode, it probably doesn't have anything else that's on a newer phone, and what a Taiwanese company could cram into a product retailing for twenty six dolla' would be more than enough for these people with their old nonvibrating phones.
So it would work if it were legislated, period. Especially if there was a trade-in program, you trade in your old phone for one that's government complaint, then we ship all the old phones back to the companies who made them so they can refurb them for resale in third-world markets with booming cellular economies. The government could eat the difference ($40B for the war on drugs per year, $80B for the first war in iraq, $120B or somesuch for the current war in iraq, etc. I'm sure they could subsidize some cellphones if some legislation were written up for it).
And then suddenly the public is happy and all phones made henceforth are compliant.
The first definition offered by dictionary.com for "humanity" is: Humans considered as a group; the human race., the second is: The condition or quality of being human., it isn't until the third definition that it mentions anyone being humane.