No, Progressives want to create a society which is actively managed by the top, instead of passively managed by the top.
The hallmarks of progressivism have always been regulating the working man "for his own good", in addition to aid and funding.
Fascism(real facism) is similar in concept, except more stringent, more violent, and more racist and factionalist.(progressivism is far friendlier).
What we've been heading towards since Reagan is Corporate Feudalism.
A good example of "fascism", would be the old Prussian style education system, where education was free, but it was harsh, strict, designed to teach group think and obediance and manditory.
Facists don't let people starve on the streets, but they aren't above shooting them there either.
What you describe as an exact abuse of power that is not supposed to happen in a free democratic society. Protesting a law should not make you a suspect.
What most of you democrats and your short sighted corporate sponsered ham fisted rage seem to miss is the very broad political implications of this, all so you can more or less use the government to crack down on political opposition.
Microsoft clings to what they have because they can't ever make a product people like or want.
They make products people are "used to", as they were the only game in town after fierce elimination of rivals in the 1990s, and became synonymous with "computer". Their products were crappy, but in the 1990s, thats all people knew.
Lets also face it
1. Mac OS classic was a joke OS, and NO it was NOT reliable.
2. Sun, DEC, HP, all made wonderful UNIX boxen. Far too expensive and esoteric for consumer use.
3. Linux was still in a very primative state, and the Open Source BSDs reigned the Free operating system world. None of them however, were real competitors to windows on the desktop. (that said, linux was ALWAYS 32 bit, multi-user, long filenames, and always fairly stable.)
Microsoft is doing what they've always done, made a monopoly and defended it from innovators making it obsolete, edison style.
Apple is doing what they've always done. Sell a product to a neurotic audience more intrested in shares of comunal bonds than a functioning product. The rich, the media people, with empty souls looking for something to fill it with.
Microsoft is fustrated that still, no one gives a shit about windows 8, and no one wants windows rt, and they were all DOA.
As much as I despise apple products, no cult-of-crapple iPad users would ever think twice about anything else, and if they did, it would more likely be android.
I say we treat this RIAA/MPAA goons like all the other criminals in this country.
pre-dawn raid, shoot their pets, haul everyone found near their compounds out for questioning, trash their house, charge them with RICO.
and most importantly, freeze their bank accounts so they can't pay for lawyers.
Lets also call all their freinds, family, and furture employers to let them all know what scumbags they are, and lets run a special on them in gangland.
many open source projects with large downloads like.ISOs for linux distribution use torrents because paying for bandwith would be really expensive for direct download.
bit torrent is great, because everyone with consumer broadband becomes and instant mirror when they download it.
so far, all anti-piracy, pro-copyright, pro-racket noise I've heard is from publishers, who are filthy rich, to keep themselves that way. Many times, artists, writers, etc, get jack shit except mabey a small check, and generally no real rights to their work.
So what are you really doing for the author?
Its like when conservatives talk about "everyone who works hard", they mean "people who have money an invested wisely"
Pay attention, right now the US tollerates tor because its used by dissidents in countries we don't like. If it wasn't for western intellegence agencies. Europe would have banned TOR a long time ago.
In fact, if it wasn't for those agencies, the US would have shut down exit nodes, by simply arresting the owners for whatever illegal content poured through them.
It doesn't take much for press/mainstream media to start attacking the internet and everyone on it, and especially the unmonied, unwashed, unconnected 99%
If you think I am exageraterating.
This is the TOR project's official blog: https://blog.torproject.org/
some excerpts: https://blog.torproject.org/blog/trip-report-tor-trainings-dutch-and-belgian-police "In January I did Tor talks for the Dutch regional police, the Dutch national police, and the Belgian national police. Jake and I also did a brief inspirational talk at Bits of Freedom, as well as the closing keynote for the Dutch National Cyber Security Centre's yearly conference.
You may recall that one of my side hobbies lately has been teaching law enforcement about Tor â€" see my previous entries about teaching the FBI about Tor in 2012 and visiting the Stuttgart detectives in 2008 back when we were discussing data retention in Germany. Before this blog started I also did several Tor talks for the US DoJ, and even one for the Norwegian Kripos."
"One regional Dutch police woman told us that they know how to check if it's a Tor exit IP, but sometimes they do the raid anyway "to discourage people from helping Tor.""
Its the only reason its not banned, and all users rounded up and thrown in jail on suspicion of hacking, child porn, and terrorism, or whatever other bad shit ever happened to float out one exit node.
systemd. I know many people don't like it, but its awesome. It makes reboots on servers that much faster, cutting the boot time around half from sysvinit, and making the shut off time under 3 seconds.
in addition, it replaces polkit, and intergrates with acpid, and udev, making it very very solid in keeping track of programs and hardware. None of the glitchyness or sluggesness of initscripts. No more relying on bash scripts to keep track of things like PIDs.
very eligant modern solution for replacing init with a v
also replacing consolekit was probably the best thing to happen to linux since HAL was obsoleted by added udev funcitonaility.
Its very un-UNIX like, but it gives the boot proccess and daemon handling a very very professional unfied method, and speed/agility that linux needs to compete with windows and mac.
1. the internet belongs to no one. Enforce it via law. Companies sell access to the internet, but they do not own it. Its public property with null ownership.
2. Internet as a right. We need to make sure that everyone who wants to have access to the internet does. Either via their own computer, or on a smart phone if they are transient.
1 unit of internet(see above), is the bare minimum needed.
0. Don't touch guns. I know you are liberals, but if you go for gun control I am out. I don't expect you to make an stances for guns, but if you come out against guns, I'm out, peroid.
1. All research funded by the US government should be given back to the US Government. All Research the government has should be either Public Domain, or licensed under something like a BSD/MIT license.(I prefer the GPL myself, for my own projects, but I recognize this is probably more correct for the current system we have, and would allow more people to use government funded research we all pay for.)
2. Stipulate the government own all software and all source code that it uses on all its computer systems, and have access to the technical information of all computer and computer based hardware it uses. Forbid contractors from bidding on government projects submit source code for review, as a condition of getting a contract.
3. net neutrality. Lets be clear on what this really is. No filtering of data, no segeration of data based on layer 3 data or higher. Also standardize internet as a commodity, with standard ammounts.
1 unit of internet is proposed to be 1 mb/s @ 100 GB/s month transfer.
The carriers have a right to set the price for
-width of the pipe(say mb/s)
-total flow through the pipe(say GB per month)
and they may count, monitor and regulate a connection to make it conform to publicly stated agreed specifications, but nothing else. Low level connections by law need to be agnostic of high level connections in all regards.
This is almost related, is to enforce set contracts against the carriers, verizon is notorious for taking on mysterious fees. This needs to end.
At time of contract, all telecommunications represenatives by law should be required to inform the customer of the total monthly fee to include tax, fees, and all extras, and it should not change, except a change in the services rendered(i.e. adding/removing features).
4. End warrantless wiretapping and survaillence. Government must disclose its full survialence capabilies against domestic targets, and explicitly need public warrants for use.
5. Remove the concept of a "software patent".
6. Try and eliminate patent "trolls" and other IP trolling. Make it illegal, and get patent troll lawyers disbarred. Make holding a patent for the sole purpose of disrupting other products or retarding technological innovation a felony.
7. implement a "Do-Not-Email" registry for spam. Make repeat offenses, spam with intent to commit another crime(selling drugs, fake products, fraud,extortion,money laundering) a felony with jail time.
8. Repeat the recent laws that make Site TOS criminal violations, instead make it a civil matter, where the site has to prove damages.
9. Preserve the right to post anonymously/pseudononymously online. Make a law saying websites have a duty to protect the identities of their visitors except to law enforcement under the proper course of investigation with a warrant or probable cause, which they must show the website.
10. legal code reform. Get legal allies to review bad law, and greatly simplify the legal code to make it easier to read. Instead of "legal speak" make all new laws written in plain newspaper grade English, the 11th grade reading level.
All legal documents should be written in language easy to read and comprehend by a person who graduates from a public high school.
counter intuitive logic actually. If they look like pidgins, that people will be more likely to accidently shoot at them, and no one gets mad at anyone for shooting pidgins.
If you make them look like Bald Eagles, our national bird AND endagered speices, it'd make rounding up anyone who shoots them that much easier. Shoot a Bald Eagle by mistake and they'd have a very serious charge to throw at you, and will win you few symathies, either from patriots on the right, or conservationists on the lef.t
That said, I could not imagine that shooting at drones would be smart. It'd instantly alert the authorities, and they'd have just cause of arresting you right then and there, and sort the rest out later for damaging government property. They'd also have ballistics from whatever gun you used.
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No, Progressives want to create a society which is actively managed by the top, instead of passively managed by the top.
The hallmarks of progressivism have always been regulating the working man "for his own good", in addition to aid and funding.
Fascism(real facism) is similar in concept, except more stringent, more violent, and more racist and factionalist.(progressivism is far friendlier).
What we've been heading towards since Reagan is Corporate Feudalism.
A good example of "fascism", would be the old Prussian style education system, where education was free, but it was harsh, strict, designed to teach group think and obediance and manditory.
Facists don't let people starve on the streets, but they aren't above shooting them there either.
why don't they just use python for the high level stuff. Its a great stable, fun, easy to program, powerful language.
heck its already cross platform, it runs on windows, osx and linux, with native support for just about all interfaces and toolkits.
we've also banned drugs with stiff penalties for first time offenders....
can't get drugs ANYWHERE.
What you describe as an exact abuse of power that is not supposed to happen in a free democratic society. Protesting a law should not make you a suspect.
What most of you democrats and your short sighted corporate sponsered ham fisted rage seem to miss is the very broad political implications of this, all so you can more or less use the government to crack down on political opposition.
And Oceania and Eastasia
more specificly Air Strip One.
Microsoft clings to what they have because they can't ever make a product people like or want.
They make products people are "used to", as they were the only game in town after fierce elimination of rivals in the 1990s, and became synonymous with "computer". Their products were crappy, but in the 1990s, thats all people knew.
Lets also face it
1. Mac OS classic was a joke OS, and NO it was NOT reliable.
2. Sun, DEC, HP, all made wonderful UNIX boxen. Far too expensive and esoteric for consumer use.
3. Linux was still in a very primative state, and the Open Source BSDs reigned the Free operating system world. None of them however, were real competitors to windows on the desktop. (that said, linux was ALWAYS 32 bit, multi-user, long filenames, and always fairly stable.)
Microsoft is doing what they've always done, made a monopoly and defended it from innovators making it obsolete, edison style.
Apple is doing what they've always done. Sell a product to a neurotic audience more intrested in shares of comunal bonds than a functioning product. The rich, the media people, with empty souls looking for something to fill it with.
Microsoft is fustrated that still, no one gives a shit about windows 8, and no one wants windows rt, and they were all DOA.
As much as I despise apple products, no cult-of-crapple iPad users would ever think twice about anything else, and if they did, it would more likely be android.
good fantasy is the same as science fiction, except replace 'science' with 'magic'.
but your right, in good works, its a plot device to tell a very real story.
I say we treat this RIAA/MPAA goons like all the other criminals in this country.
pre-dawn raid, shoot their pets, haul everyone found near their compounds out for questioning, trash their house, charge them with RICO.
and most importantly, freeze their bank accounts so they can't pay for lawyers.
Lets also call all their freinds, family, and furture employers to let them all know what scumbags they are, and lets run a special on them in gangland.
many open source projects with large downloads like .ISOs for linux distribution use torrents because paying for bandwith would be really expensive for direct download.
bit torrent is great, because everyone with consumer broadband becomes and instant mirror when they download it.
the real question is "are they really?"
so far, all anti-piracy, pro-copyright, pro-racket noise I've heard is from publishers, who are filthy rich, to keep themselves that way. Many times, artists, writers, etc, get jack shit except mabey a small check, and generally no real rights to their work.
So what are you really doing for the author?
Its like when conservatives talk about "everyone who works hard", they mean "people who have money an invested wisely"
correct, it was originally called "light peak" before apple bought exclusive rights to it.
Pay attention, right now the US tollerates tor because its used by dissidents in countries we don't like. If it wasn't for western intellegence agencies. Europe would have banned TOR a long time ago.
In fact, if it wasn't for those agencies, the US would have shut down exit nodes, by simply arresting the owners for whatever illegal content poured through them.
It doesn't take much for press/mainstream media to start attacking the internet and everyone on it, and especially the unmonied, unwashed, unconnected 99%
If you think I am exageraterating.
This is the TOR project's official blog:
https://blog.torproject.org/
some excerpts:
https://blog.torproject.org/blog/trip-report-tor-trainings-dutch-and-belgian-police
"In January I did Tor talks for the Dutch regional police, the Dutch national police, and the Belgian national police. Jake and I also did a brief inspirational talk at Bits of Freedom, as well as the closing keynote for the Dutch National Cyber Security Centre's yearly conference.
You may recall that one of my side hobbies lately has been teaching law enforcement about Tor â€" see my previous entries about teaching the FBI about Tor in 2012 and visiting the Stuttgart detectives in 2008 back when we were discussing data retention in Germany. Before this blog started I also did several Tor talks for the US DoJ, and even one for the Norwegian Kripos."
"One regional Dutch police woman told us that they know how to check if it's a Tor exit IP, but sometimes they do the raid anyway "to discourage people from helping Tor.""
Its the only reason its not banned, and all users rounded up and thrown in jail on suspicion of hacking, child porn, and terrorism, or whatever other bad shit ever happened to float out one exit node.
They already did the best thing they could....
systemd. I know many people don't like it, but its awesome. It makes reboots on servers that much faster, cutting the boot time around half from sysvinit, and making the shut off time under 3 seconds.
in addition, it replaces polkit, and intergrates with acpid, and udev, making it very very solid in keeping track of programs and hardware. None of the glitchyness or sluggesness of initscripts. No more relying on bash scripts to keep track of things like PIDs.
very eligant modern solution for replacing init with a v
also replacing consolekit was probably the best thing to happen to linux since HAL was obsoleted by added udev funcitonaility.
Its very un-UNIX like, but it gives the boot proccess and daemon handling a very very professional unfied method, and speed/agility that linux needs to compete with windows and mac.
long uptimes...
I saw this argument in another thread. If you have a modern machine with long uptimes, it means your probably not up ot the latest patch.
I generally reboot my server only when systemd(init), or the kernel is upgraded
Thats about once every two weeks to a month TOPS. I wouldn't brag about having an unpatched machine.
at least you know where the teenager's hands been.
forgot to add.
public access to the internet.
1. the internet belongs to no one. Enforce it via law. Companies sell access to the internet, but they do not own it. Its public property with null ownership.
2. Internet as a right. We need to make sure that everyone who wants to have access to the internet does. Either via their own computer, or on a smart phone if they are transient.
1 unit of internet(see above), is the bare minimum needed.
0. Don't touch guns. I know you are liberals, but if you go for gun control I am out. I don't expect you to make an stances for guns, but if you come out against guns, I'm out, peroid.
1. All research funded by the US government should be given back to the US Government. All Research the government has should be either Public Domain, or licensed under something like a BSD/MIT license.(I prefer the GPL myself, for my own projects, but I recognize this is probably more correct for the current system we have, and would allow more people to use government funded research we all pay for.)
2. Stipulate the government own all software and all source code that it uses on all its computer systems, and have access to the technical information of all computer and computer based hardware it uses. Forbid contractors from bidding on government projects submit source code for review, as a condition of getting a contract.
3. net neutrality. Lets be clear on what this really is. No filtering of data, no segeration of data based on layer 3 data or higher. Also standardize internet as a commodity, with standard ammounts.
1 unit of internet is proposed to be 1 mb/s @ 100 GB/s month transfer.
The carriers have a right to set the price for
-width of the pipe(say mb/s)
-total flow through the pipe(say GB per month)
and they may count, monitor and regulate a connection to make it conform to publicly stated agreed specifications, but nothing else. Low level connections by law need to be agnostic of high level connections in all regards.
This is almost related, is to enforce set contracts against the carriers, verizon is notorious for taking on mysterious fees. This needs to end.
At time of contract, all telecommunications represenatives by law should be required to inform the customer of the total monthly fee to include tax, fees, and all extras, and it should not change, except a change in the services rendered(i.e. adding/removing features).
4. End warrantless wiretapping and survaillence. Government must disclose its full survialence capabilies against domestic targets, and explicitly need public warrants for use.
5. Remove the concept of a "software patent".
6. Try and eliminate patent "trolls" and other IP trolling. Make it illegal, and get patent troll lawyers disbarred. Make holding a patent for the sole purpose of disrupting other products or retarding technological innovation a felony.
7. implement a "Do-Not-Email" registry for spam. Make repeat offenses, spam with intent to commit another crime(selling drugs, fake products, fraud,extortion,money laundering) a felony with jail time.
8. Repeat the recent laws that make Site TOS criminal violations, instead make it a civil matter, where the site has to prove damages.
9. Preserve the right to post anonymously/pseudononymously online. Make a law saying websites have a duty to protect the identities of their visitors except to law enforcement under the proper course of investigation with a warrant or probable cause, which they must show the website.
10. legal code reform. Get legal allies to review bad law, and greatly simplify the legal code to make it easier to read. Instead of "legal speak" make all new laws written in plain newspaper grade English, the 11th grade reading level.
All legal documents should be written in language easy to read and comprehend by a person who graduates from a public high school.
Thats just the start.
criminal investigations responsible?
the cops complain about the CSI factor. I.E. being actually held to the same ethical standards as cops on TV.
Who do you trust more, really?
Teens in their basement, or slimebag politicians in washington?
At least we know teenagers in their basements aren't taking money from special corporate intrests trying to fuck us all over.
Did anyone else read "quakefinder" and think something else.
like discovering network multiplayer games of one of the more popular trilogies of first person shooters?
counter intuitive logic actually. If they look like pidgins, that people will be more likely to accidently shoot at them, and no one gets mad at anyone for shooting pidgins.
If you make them look like Bald Eagles, our national bird AND endagered speices, it'd make rounding up anyone who shoots them that much easier. Shoot a Bald Eagle by mistake and they'd have a very serious charge to throw at you, and will win you few symathies, either from patriots on the right, or conservationists on the lef.t
That said, I could not imagine that shooting at drones would be smart. It'd instantly alert the authorities, and they'd have just cause of arresting you right then and there, and sort the rest out later for damaging government property. They'd also have ballistics from whatever gun you used.
undoing all my moderations in this thread to correct some ignorance:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MSTAR
get with the times bro. they can and do mount these in vehicles, and then can and do carry these things by hand.
without getting into specifics they are sensative enough to living things.
I keep thinking of this
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tv4c3flhSaU
the Gnome Shell, minus "live tiles"
the *NIX desktop so bad it fragmented the linux community and no one liked it. like 2 years before Win8