"So you're volunteering to write the compiler, right?" more like "port of gcc".
" And porting Linux to a completely new architecture?" make it #14 for linux. I can't imagine that it would be hard if you are able to design a CPU archetecure/CPU in the first place, specificly one with linux in mind. Specificly one you have all the specs and already have intimate knowledge with.
"ah this is an embedded processor: they don't have northbridge/southbridge buses [at all]. those are reserved for CPUs at the 10+ watt market."
sorry, must have missed that part, I WOULD like to see in the future a desktop/laptop replacement that wouldn't mind hitting 10-30 watt power mark, that could be work for Free Software concious DIY enthusiasts (sell a standard ATX/ITX format mobo, with standard power supply hookups, etc...), and in laptop form. I know that is getting a little ahead of myself, as this one has yet to take place.
Thank you for responding, and thanks again for doing what you do.
"So have at it: if given carte blanche, what interfaces and what features would you like an FSF-Endorseable mass-volume processor to have?"
Standard size chip socket, with adapter springs and guides for using off the shelf cooling implements (like zalman fans, and watercooling), for other CPUs.
need PCI and PCI express, prefrably at least 24 lanes, hopefully as many as 48 lanes.
Behind this, fast northside/southside busses to keepup with the following, I think AMD open sourced hypertransport, so front side bussing should not be an issue.
If your still mulling over instruction set, a built in crypto proccessing chip would ROCK. implement intels AES-NI or something similar, plus more for twofish, serpent, and other fairly mainstream modern, unbroken Free/Open encryption algorythms. Then add hash instructions for the entire SHA family of hashes, MD6, whirlpool, tiger, RIPMED, and GOST
GOOD USB 3 support, with legacy suppoequivsrt for 1 and 2. Not only do I want some ports on the back, I want at least 3-4 banks of header pins on a theorhetical motherboard for front panel devices and ports. They shtheorheticalould be USB 1,2,3. Solid high speed memory controller at a preimium.
Universial SATA support for revisions 1,2 and 3 (1.5GB/s 3.0 GB/s and 6.0 GBs respectively), built in RAID controller. eSATA would help too.
scalable audio chipset capable of up to 8.1 surround, Stereo input, SPID/F and all the other great audio features.
DDR3 RAM, or something comparable.
Unlocked bootloader with firmware menu ala x86.
Atheros chipsets for wired ethernet(1GB fine, 10GB requested for future proofing), and wireless (every protocol up to N 600mbs, again future proof.)
split the graphics chipset into another PCI-E board, and sell it seperately, that works with x86.
I'd like to good support for ACPI tables, lots of hardware sensors, temp, fan speeds, intrusion, etc...
And how would applications run better than lets say Oracle, MySQL, PostgreSQL, etc, or the other proffesional database software than runs on linux.
Linux has windows beat hands down on the server world. You don't run high capacity, high availibility sites on windows, It was the job that years ago was reserved for UNIX machines, that is now slowly but eventually being migrated to linux.
Desktop, a linux desktop, any linux desktop does what 99% of end users do:
1. Listen to music 2. browse web 3. instant messaging (even better, no proprietary clients, things like pidgin and kompote)
Again, shovelware is replaced by high quality open source apps like Rythmbox/banshee, pidgin, brasero, gimp, audacity, filezilla, evolution/thunderbird, and libre office. No spyware/adware, and all packages are GPG signed.
Manufacture drivers for nVidia, ATI, and intel, which make up 99% of the video chip market, with intel drivers being factory AND open source AND rock solid, evince, etc...
gstreamer and xine handle your multi media and there are no more codecs to install, they are all included. to include divix. If you want something more conventional, VLC has a great linux port.
There is an official flash build for up to versions 11.2, which works great in firefox and chome,
The recievers on Glock handguns are plastic, just to point out. Obviously, its possible to make plastic guns, just not by replacing plastic with metal
Barrels, springs and working parts are the only thing that needs to be made out of metal.
also 5.7x28 is a terrible calibre. Its pistol ammo, that at best has the knockdown and kick of 9mm, and at worst is an expensive non-standard cartridge. Its far overhyped, and far overrated.
Apple once again, re-invents someone elses ideas, sells it to hipsters, makes fortune, then uses than money on PR to write themselves in the history books as this great creating force.
Actually, despite how bad the mainstream American press is, they are still pretty far removed from Iran, NK, China and Russia, in "Truth in journalism"
I propose a word limit on EULAs. Many many many online services have limits on message size, in various scopes.
I say we place one on EULAs and similar legal documents. Limit on total word count, and total time to read count. Since people read at diffrent speeds, I propose the following calculation.
15 min of reading time at 50% percentile reading speed, or no more than 30 min at one standard deviation below the mean.
95% of all court martials come back "guilty". You have far less rights than you do in a civil trial, and "jury of your peers" is replaced by a panel of officers.
Article 32 hearings are notrious for being "not fair".
Penn and Teller called bullshit on this one, it was great.
The Dali Lama, nor his regime were far worse than chineese communism, to the point chineese communism was a real improvement for everyone not the upper class of tibet. Not that Chineese communism is that great, but it was still a great step up from the previous feudalism.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fYEOSCIOnrs
tibetten insurgents waged a CIA backed violent campaign in the years before the China split with the USSR, and sided with the US, and started moving away from communism.
not always true. you've already nailed it that Linux adds more value.
Its the perception of value. If something is priced less, than people will look at it as worth less, if its priced more, people look at it as worth more.
This is why apple prices their products high, and get away with it. There is a perception of value, that is created.
Also, I have a striking supicion, that $50 might have to do with R&D costs, retooling(need linux help desk support, hire new people), and the like to OEM linux.
I'd see it as a $50 dollar bribe to dell to keep linux support rolling. Hapily pay it, especially if I am paying $1500 for a laptop to start with, I know I'd have another $50 to spend, just as another figure to boost sales numbers to vote with my wallet.
geek - practicle intellegence. Generally sports a t-shirt, long hair, a beard and jeans. Works on things like computers, ham radios. The ubermensch form of a geek would be a hacker, or the elite skillwise of geek skills.
nerd - book smart, generally never seen without a buttondown shirt and slacks.(never too classy or current).
Hacker also has counter culture implications like punk rock, heavy metal, or outlaw biker does. Despite what anyone tells you, all geeks in the 1990s looked towards Hackers as inspirational, and almost universally revered and respected, and really held mainstream culture in disattain in at least some regard.
a "hacker manefesto", but lets be honest and changing a few words it applies to most recent counter cultures, for the same reasons. http://www.mithral.com/~beberg/manifesto.html
Nerds on the other hand, were at the epitome of conformity, usually had social views that centered around outdated models, and generally boring, bland, reactionary, and useless(despite being insanely smart). They were also stuck up. (prototypical preppies, albiet more socially awkward before being a preppy was cool)
I never liked nerds. I think this debate has been pointless for the last 15 or so years though.
edit: today, like most sub cultures, geek has been subverted by the mainstream media around the lines of consumer items, like other cultures before it.
"based around 'the idea that developers are the kings of IT and set the agenda for web companies, who in turn, set the agenda for the whole industry,' Dell said.""
damn skippy they are. Smartest thing I've heard all week.
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"So you're volunteering to write the compiler, right?"
more like "port of gcc".
" And porting Linux to a completely new architecture?"
make it #14 for linux. I can't imagine that it would be hard if you are able to design a CPU archetecure/CPU in the first place, specificly one with linux in mind. Specificly one you have all the specs and already have intimate knowledge with.
I do actually. Its not a deal breaker, but I won't lie and say I don't use some x86 only binaries, both in WINE and some proprietary software.
Also, my favorite distros revolve around x86.
"ah this is an embedded processor: they don't have northbridge/southbridge buses [at all]. those are reserved for CPUs at the 10+ watt market."
sorry, must have missed that part, I WOULD like to see in the future a desktop/laptop replacement that wouldn't mind hitting 10-30 watt power mark, that could be work for Free Software concious DIY enthusiasts (sell a standard ATX/ITX format mobo, with standard power supply hookups, etc...), and in laptop form. I know that is getting a little ahead of myself, as this one has yet to take place.
Thank you for responding, and thanks again for doing what you do.
"So have at it: if given carte blanche, what interfaces and what features would you like an FSF-Endorseable mass-volume processor to have?"
Standard size chip socket, with adapter springs and guides for using off the shelf cooling implements (like zalman fans, and watercooling), for other CPUs.
need PCI and PCI express, prefrably at least 24 lanes, hopefully as many as 48 lanes.
Behind this, fast northside/southside busses to keepup with the following, I think AMD open sourced hypertransport, so front side bussing should not be an issue.
If your still mulling over instruction set, a built in crypto proccessing chip would ROCK. implement intels AES-NI or something similar, plus more for twofish, serpent, and other fairly mainstream modern, unbroken Free/Open encryption algorythms. Then add hash instructions for the entire SHA family of hashes, MD6, whirlpool, tiger, RIPMED, and GOST
GOOD USB 3 support, with legacy suppoequivsrt for 1 and 2. Not only do I want some ports on the back, I want at least 3-4 banks of header pins on a theorhetical motherboard for front panel devices and ports. They shtheorheticalould be USB 1,2,3. Solid high speed memory controller at a preimium.
Universial SATA support for revisions 1,2 and 3 (1.5GB/s 3.0 GB/s and 6.0 GBs respectively), built in RAID controller. eSATA would help too.
scalable audio chipset capable of up to 8.1 surround, Stereo input, SPID/F and all the other great audio features.
DDR3 RAM, or something comparable.
Unlocked bootloader with firmware menu ala x86.
Atheros chipsets for wired ethernet(1GB fine, 10GB requested for future proofing), and wireless (every protocol up to N 600mbs, again future proof.)
split the graphics chipset into another PCI-E board, and sell it seperately, that works with x86.
I'd like to good support for ACPI tables, lots of hardware sensors, temp, fan speeds, intrusion, etc...
Who actually uses MS SQL???
And how would applications run better than lets say Oracle, MySQL, PostgreSQL, etc, or the other proffesional database software than runs on linux.
Linux has windows beat hands down on the server world. You don't run high capacity, high availibility sites on windows, It was the job that years ago was reserved for UNIX machines, that is now slowly but eventually being migrated to linux.
Desktop, a linux desktop, any linux desktop does what 99% of end users do:
1. Listen to music
2. browse web
3. instant messaging (even better, no proprietary clients, things like pidgin and kompote)
Again, shovelware is replaced by high quality open source apps like Rythmbox/banshee, pidgin, brasero, gimp, audacity, filezilla, evolution/thunderbird, and libre office. No spyware/adware, and all packages are GPG signed.
Manufacture drivers for nVidia, ATI, and intel, which make up 99% of the video chip market, with intel drivers being factory AND open source AND rock solid, evince, etc...
gstreamer and xine handle your multi media and there are no more codecs to install, they are all included. to include divix. If you want something more conventional, VLC has a great linux port.
There is an official flash build for up to versions 11.2, which works great in firefox and chome,
oh yeah that too.
yeah, and homosexuality was once considered mental illness too.
So where a lot of things.
The recievers on Glock handguns are plastic, just to point out. Obviously, its possible to make plastic guns, just not by replacing plastic with metal
Barrels, springs and working parts are the only thing that needs to be made out of metal.
also 5.7x28 is a terrible calibre. Its pistol ammo, that at best has the knockdown and kick of 9mm, and at worst is an expensive non-standard cartridge. Its far overhyped, and far overrated.
Apple once again, re-invents someone elses ideas, sells it to hipsters, makes fortune, then uses than money on PR to write themselves in the history books as this great creating force.
History repeats itself?
of course.
It still bears no weight on the original argument.
Actually, despite how bad the mainstream American press is, they are still pretty far removed from Iran, NK, China and Russia, in "Truth in journalism"
I propose a word limit on EULAs. Many many many online services have limits on message size, in various scopes.
I say we place one on EULAs and similar legal documents. Limit on total word count, and total time to read count. Since people read at diffrent speeds, I propose the following calculation.
15 min of reading time at 50% percentile reading speed, or no more than 30 min at one standard deviation below the mean.
last delcared war was WW2. THere was no war declared in Vietnam, only a "police action"
the military is litterally a fascist society.
95% of all court martials come back "guilty". You have far less rights than you do in a civil trial, and "jury of your peers" is replaced by a panel of officers.
Article 32 hearings are notrious for being "not fair".
Penn and Teller called bullshit on this one, it was great.
The Dali Lama, nor his regime were far worse than chineese communism, to the point chineese communism was a real improvement for everyone not the upper class of tibet. Not that Chineese communism is that great, but it was still a great step up from the previous feudalism.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fYEOSCIOnrs
tibetten insurgents waged a CIA backed violent campaign in the years before the China split with the USSR, and sided with the US, and started moving away from communism.
not always true. you've already nailed it that Linux adds more value.
Its the perception of value. If something is priced less, than people will look at it as worth less, if its priced more, people look at it as worth more.
This is why apple prices their products high, and get away with it. There is a perception of value, that is created.
Also, I have a striking supicion, that $50 might have to do with R&D costs, retooling(need linux help desk support, hire new people), and the like to OEM linux.
this.
I'd see it as a $50 dollar bribe to dell to keep linux support rolling. Hapily pay it, especially if I am paying $1500 for a laptop to start with, I know I'd have another $50 to spend, just as another figure to boost sales numbers to vote with my wallet.
Won't run ubuntu though.
I think I'd pay Dell another $50, simply out of spite for MS.
That said, first thing I'd do was re-format and put another distro on it.
its called striping, and expectation of value.
Apple doesn't charge more for their computers for any other reason than they want to be associated with being high end.
It could be "perception of value".
usb?
the terms seemed to be used interchangably today.
Back in the day(USA):
geek - practicle intellegence. Generally sports a t-shirt, long hair, a beard and jeans. Works on things like computers, ham radios. The ubermensch form of a geek would be a hacker, or the elite skillwise of geek skills.
nerd - book smart, generally never seen without a buttondown shirt and slacks.(never too classy or current).
Hacker also has counter culture implications like punk rock, heavy metal, or outlaw biker does. Despite what anyone tells you, all geeks in the 1990s looked towards Hackers as inspirational, and almost universally revered and respected, and really held mainstream culture in disattain in at least some regard.
a "hacker manefesto", but lets be honest and changing a few words it applies to most recent counter cultures, for the same reasons.
http://www.mithral.com/~beberg/manifesto.html
Nerds on the other hand, were at the epitome of conformity, usually had social views that centered around outdated models, and generally boring, bland, reactionary, and useless(despite being insanely smart). They were also stuck up. (prototypical preppies, albiet more socially awkward before being a preppy was cool)
I never liked nerds. I think this debate has been pointless for the last 15 or so years though.
edit: today, like most sub cultures, geek has been subverted by the mainstream media around the lines of consumer items, like other cultures before it.
Beer Mac'n'Cheese
use beer instead of milk. Its good,
probably best analysis of nerd/hacker culture thats been done by and outsider.
most previous attempts were poorly researched with bad intentions to make us a strawmen for greater societies own personal failings.
"based around 'the idea that developers are the kings of IT and set the agenda for web companies, who in turn, set the agenda for the whole industry,' Dell said.""
damn skippy they are. Smartest thing I've heard all week.
"Though none of them are gay or drink alcohol, of course."
they are all gay, and heroin is a giant problem.
Don't let a regimes stated morales let blind you to reality.
Hyper strict religeous morales are seldom followed anywhere, almost as a rule