Prove it. Consider that personal income has risen in those same last 10 years.
There is not a shred of evidence / proof that the "finite number of high-paying jobs" is shrinking. In fact, consider JUST the fact that federal tax revenues are increasing (this is easy to see, just take a quick glance at irs.gov) indicates that plenty of people are making more money.
Awwww, now you consider me a foe because I'm throwing cold water on your pity party. I'm rather proud of that. Hopefully one of these days you'll stop behaving like a victim and you'll see your pessimism for what it is: useless.
ftp://ftp.bls.gov/pub/news.release/History/empsi t. 020494.news
3rd quarter 1993 (earliest I could find quickly), there were 119,543,000 people actively working.
ftp://ftp.bls.gov/pub/news.release/History/empsi t. 01092004.news
4th quarter 2003 (latest I could find quickly), there were 138,369,000 people actively working.
A (very) little math indicates that 18,826,000 MORE people are working now that there were 10 years ago. And that is on top of all the outsourcing, layoffs, closures, etc that have happened. Are all these people working 60k/yr jobs? Of course not.
You might say these numbers are so because the population's up and it is, but the total number of unemployed only went up 200k.
So don't try and sell me on the notion that the U.S. economy is broken. IBM is going to outsource 3,000 jobs next year. But they are also going to HIRE 5,000 more people in the U.S. Is that a loss?
I'm sorry to hear your field isn't hiring. Your choices: Whine about it, or do something about it. It appears you've chosen the former.
Myabe not commercial software development jobs, but there are plenty of customization and support programming jobs out there.
"read the facts" yourself. MOST companies in the U.S. are small. Tiny, in fact. They all need computer help. Go make your own job, don't expect me to hand one to you.
You act as though someone should just hand you a damn job. God damn you're doing a lot of whining on this story, how many posts did you throw in here? 100?
How about this: there was a story here last week about starting your own IT consulting. Try that. Quit whining that the rest of us "owe" you a frigging job.
So my question to you "race-to-bottom" types... Why are we much better off at the end of the 20th century than the beginning? You'd think if we were "racing" anywhere, we'd be there by now, given generations of industry.
When 97% of U.S. "poor" have a color TV, I don't consider us very poor. Yes, I am a subscriber to Easterbrook's world view.
I think you're gettin' boned down there in Dallas man. I'm set up for at a 30-yr fixed rate monthly payment of 1500ish... for 211k owed. For you to have over 75% of that for much much less... wow.
Looks to me like it's time for you to move to a better part of the country. Or move to India where the "jobs" are...
My simple, singular point: Do you honestly believe any "group", particularly here on/., behaves any better than another? To that, I say, wake up.
In this case I do not disagree with the paranoia the right-wing has with the 9th Circuit is just as bad as your average left-wing demagoguery.
In general, the folks I see producing the least amount of what you call "distortions and straw man arguments" are the libertarians, particularly those associated with Reason and Cato.
But the fact that I see things that way is probably indicative of my general feelings towards their point of view (obviously favorable). But I like to believe I've seen well-reasoned analysis from right and left-wing sources that I've been able to disagree with, as well... so I have hope.
This article is about the military, AND oil. You think there's some hope for a reasonable conversation about it?
Thanks though, I hadn't thought about the "unusable oil" bit. In fact, given that I hadn't even realized there/was/ "unusable oil", you've educated me twice.:)
I'm wondering: when you speak of emissions, does that just look at the emissions of burning the fuel? What about "emissions" from the conversion process? It occurs to me, if you could separate out the contaminants, maybe you have a nice secondary source of pure sulfur...
How about this: Get everyone hooked on using hydrogen while in the meantime (the decades that the said stated 'hooking' will require to take place) hydrogen generation NOT using fossil fuels can have a chance to get efficient.
That's what the market is all about: Get the consumer hooked on something while you go about finding the best way to get it to him.
This also provides more incentive for the Big Evil Oil Companies to work on making the hydrogen economy work.
Generally I can agree with you. But "terrorist" means someone targeting civilians to scare the population into getting their leaders to do X, whereas "freedom fighters" or even "revolutionaries" (in any generally accepted definition) don't go blowing up women and children riding a bus.
If you wouldn't like it, why would you propose it? I never claimed to think we should have such things as book-tracking or ubiquitous cameras. I was merely pointing out that I can understand why law enforcement would want such things while not wanting to be "big brother". Try to see the difference.
As for the propaganda thing, there are a couple problems with your assessment: 1. I live here in the U.S.. He doesn't. Obviously I will have a better idea of what's going on that he will (assuming I'm not hiding in a basement somewhere). 2. People claiming that the U.S. is some sort of fascist regime incapable of allowing dissenting opinion are wrong. Such claims are easily refutable. Ergo, if you believe that, you must be getting your mistaken info from somewhere. Call it dogma, demagoguery, or propaganda. In any case dood, it's far from reasoned, critical thinking.
The trouble is, how hard is it to go from aggregate traffic data to simply saying "if car X makes it from milepost 1 to milepost 2 in under 1 minute, he's speeding. Look him up on our car registration database and send him a ticket. Cha-ching!"
Though I do want to know who came up with the term "island monkey". Makes me laugh like a little girl (Homer S. style).
You're listening to leftist propaganda about the U.S., not reality.
"Dissenters", as you call them, don't have their cars or houses raided. You get in trouble when your "dissent" runs over my pursuit of life, liberty and happiness.
Right now, if I wanted, I could go create a web site community talking about any issue I want: Elimination of Social Security, Atheism, Yay Globalism (Hi Bureaucrashers:)), Anti-Globalism, Forced Church Attendance... and noone will say a word to me. However, if I march around in the street, destroying other peoples' property (and, in general, preventing other people from going about their daily lives), you can be damned sure the cops will come and break up the party.
For an example: Ed Crane, who runs the Cato Institute, has been hammering away at left and right administrations for a couple decades. Does he get abused by the government in any way? No, because Cato's efforts are civilized.
Why would book-tracking be necessary? Because, in your words, "it's public". Libraries are public institutions, why would you expect privacy? Hmmmm? Granted, I hate the camera idea AND the book-tracking, but I can understand the desire by law enforcement to anticipate attacks: Someone reading every book by revolutionaries, books on weapons manufacture, explosives, tactical ops... might be someone who should be check up on. I don't like it, but I can understand it.
Finally, before you claim we're miles ahead screwing ourselves, you might want to check out the primary method of screwing citizens: Taxes. We could be doing better, but we're still better than many. It's pretty funny that you state an opinion (based on that perfectly objective descriptor "miles and miles") and claim that it's fact.
"Trust me", give me a break. "burning you as a devil"... I don't know if you're trying to be funny or you're more ignorant than the people you're trying (and failing miserably) to belittle.
I think the real name was Contstrux. My brother and I built a tunnel (using the blue panel 'covers') to carry warm air from the heat vent up to the foot of the bed and under the covers... It worked too well.
Also built some kick ass swords with those things. You could parry/thrust a few times before they'd break apart, first one to break obviously lost the fight!
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Prove it. Consider that personal income has risen in those same last 10 years.
There is not a shred of evidence / proof that the "finite number of high-paying jobs" is shrinking. In fact, consider JUST the fact that federal tax revenues are increasing (this is easy to see, just take a quick glance at irs.gov) indicates that plenty of people are making more money.
Awwww, now you consider me a foe because I'm throwing cold water on your pity party. I'm rather proud of that. Hopefully one of these days you'll stop behaving like a victim and you'll see your pessimism for what it is: useless.
Let me give you something to chew on:
i t. 020494.news
i t. 01092004.news
ftp://ftp.bls.gov/pub/news.release/History/emps
3rd quarter 1993 (earliest I could find quickly), there were 119,543,000 people actively working.
ftp://ftp.bls.gov/pub/news.release/History/emps
4th quarter 2003 (latest I could find quickly), there were 138,369,000 people actively working.
A (very) little math indicates that 18,826,000 MORE people are working now that there were 10 years ago. And that is on top of all the outsourcing, layoffs, closures, etc that have happened. Are all these people working 60k/yr jobs? Of course not.
You might say these numbers are so because the population's up and it is, but the total number of unemployed only went up 200k.
So don't try and sell me on the notion that the U.S. economy is broken. IBM is going to outsource 3,000 jobs next year. But they are also going to HIRE 5,000 more people in the U.S. Is that a loss?
I'm sorry to hear your field isn't hiring. Your choices: Whine about it, or do something about it. It appears you've chosen the former.
I wouldn't hire you because you expect a job to be there for you. Yes, that's a bad attitude. When you can figure out why, you'll understand my point.
I call bullshit. There ARE programming jobs.
Myabe not commercial software development jobs, but there are plenty of customization and support programming jobs out there.
"read the facts" yourself. MOST companies in the U.S. are small. Tiny, in fact. They all need computer help. Go make your own job, don't expect me to hand one to you.
You act as though someone should just hand you a damn job. God damn you're doing a lot of whining on this story, how many posts did you throw in here? 100?
How about this: there was a story here last week about starting your own IT consulting. Try that. Quit whining that the rest of us "owe" you a frigging job.
So my question to you "race-to-bottom" types... Why are we much better off at the end of the 20th century than the beginning? You'd think if we were "racing" anywhere, we'd be there by now, given generations of industry.
When 97% of U.S. "poor" have a color TV, I don't consider us very poor. Yes, I am a subscriber to Easterbrook's world view.
So you fault everyone else for "your" job being somewhere else.
I wouldn't hire you either.
And you don't "deserve" anything but what you make for yourself.
I think you're gettin' boned down there in Dallas man. I'm set up for at a 30-yr fixed rate monthly payment of 1500ish... for 211k owed. For you to have over 75% of that for much much less... wow.
Looks to me like it's time for you to move to a better part of the country. Or move to India where the "jobs" are...
Smartass. :)
My simple, singular point: Do you honestly believe any "group", particularly here on /., behaves any better than another? To that, I say, wake up.
In this case I do not disagree with the paranoia the right-wing has with the 9th Circuit is just as bad as your average left-wing demagoguery.
In general, the folks I see producing the least amount of what you call "distortions and straw man arguments" are the libertarians, particularly those associated with Reason and Cato.
But the fact that I see things that way is probably indicative of my general feelings towards their point of view (obviously favorable). But I like to believe I've seen well-reasoned analysis from right and left-wing sources that I've been able to disagree with, as well... so I have hope.
I know you meant this as a troll, but give it a fucking rest. Noone in the U.S. truly wants to go to war with France. Or Germany.
"Hypernationalistic", give me a break.
Just out of curiosity... On /., when the fuck did "sound arguments and avoid[ing] misrepresentations" become any kind of "prerequisite"?
Who the hell are you kidding? Every YRO story has the lefties bitching at the righties screaming at the libertarians flipping off the socialists...
"Neocon distortions" is funny too. As if anything said by one group isn't a "distortion" to its enemies...
Thank you Atari, that's the best laugh I've had since Dean's self-immolation itself.
Ahhhh, Beavis and Butthead. My favorite show, to the unending embarrassment of my wife...
"Technical Unix Pedent of the Year"
:-D
Umm, you spelled Pedant wrong.
You're crazy with that kind of talk around here :)
/was/ "unusable oil", you've educated me twice. :)
This article is about the military, AND oil. You think there's some hope for a reasonable conversation about it?
Thanks though, I hadn't thought about the "unusable oil" bit. In fact, given that I hadn't even realized there
I'm wondering: when you speak of emissions, does that just look at the emissions of burning the fuel? What about "emissions" from the conversion process? It occurs to me, if you could separate out the contaminants, maybe you have a nice secondary source of pure sulfur...
Last I checked Halliburton got mucho dineiro and many contracts from the Clinton admin too...
How about this: Get everyone hooked on using hydrogen while in the meantime (the decades that the said stated 'hooking' will require to take place) hydrogen generation NOT using fossil fuels can have a chance to get efficient.
That's what the market is all about: Get the consumer hooked on something while you go about finding the best way to get it to him.
This also provides more incentive for the Big Evil Oil Companies to work on making the hydrogen economy work.
AC, you are full of shit.
Generally I can agree with you. But "terrorist" means someone targeting civilians to scare the population into getting their leaders to do X, whereas "freedom fighters" or even "revolutionaries" (in any generally accepted definition) don't go blowing up women and children riding a bus.
If you wouldn't like it, why would you propose it? I never claimed to think we should have such things as book-tracking or ubiquitous cameras. I was merely pointing out that I can understand why law enforcement would want such things while not wanting to be "big brother". Try to see the difference.
As for the propaganda thing, there are a couple problems with your assessment:
1. I live here in the U.S.. He doesn't. Obviously I will have a better idea of what's going on that he will (assuming I'm not hiding in a basement somewhere).
2. People claiming that the U.S. is some sort of fascist regime incapable of allowing dissenting opinion are wrong. Such claims are easily refutable. Ergo, if you believe that, you must be getting your mistaken info from somewhere. Call it dogma, demagoguery, or propaganda. In any case dood, it's far from reasoned, critical thinking.
The trouble is, how hard is it to go from aggregate traffic data to simply saying "if car X makes it from milepost 1 to milepost 2 in under 1 minute, he's speeding. Look him up on our car registration database and send him a ticket. Cha-ching!"
Though I do want to know who came up with the term "island monkey". Makes me laugh like a little girl (Homer S. style).
You're listening to leftist propaganda about the U.S., not reality.
:)), Anti-Globalism, Forced Church Attendance... and noone will say a word to me. However, if I march around in the street, destroying other peoples' property (and, in general, preventing other people from going about their daily lives), you can be damned sure the cops will come and break up the party.
"Dissenters", as you call them, don't have their cars or houses raided. You get in trouble when your "dissent" runs over my pursuit of life, liberty and happiness.
Right now, if I wanted, I could go create a web site community talking about any issue I want: Elimination of Social Security, Atheism, Yay Globalism (Hi Bureaucrashers
For an example: Ed Crane, who runs the Cato Institute, has been hammering away at left and right administrations for a couple decades. Does he get abused by the government in any way? No, because Cato's efforts are civilized.
Why would book-tracking be necessary? Because, in your words, "it's public". Libraries are public institutions, why would you expect privacy? Hmmmm? Granted, I hate the camera idea AND the book-tracking, but I can understand the desire by law enforcement to anticipate attacks: Someone reading every book by revolutionaries, books on weapons manufacture, explosives, tactical ops... might be someone who should be check up on. I don't like it, but I can understand it.
Finally, before you claim we're miles ahead screwing ourselves, you might want to check out the primary method of screwing citizens: Taxes. We could be doing better, but we're still better than many. It's pretty funny that you state an opinion (based on that perfectly objective descriptor "miles and miles") and claim that it's fact.
Someone tell this idiot he's not insightful.
"Trust me", give me a break. "burning you as a devil"... I don't know if you're trying to be funny or you're more ignorant than the people you're trying (and failing miserably) to belittle.
Grow up.
I think the real name was Contstrux. My brother and I built a tunnel (using the blue panel 'covers') to carry warm air from the heat vent up to the foot of the bed and under the covers... It worked too well.
Also built some kick ass swords with those things. You could parry/thrust a few times before they'd break apart, first one to break obviously lost the fight!