Here's a misconception for you: That somehow Americans getting richer is taking away from the rest of the world. As if there is only one pie, and it is being eaten.
Nothing can be further from the truth! The world economy is NOT operating under the laws of thermodynamics! Wealth is/created/ every day, not "stolen" from someone else!
For the record, I never said that the 3rd world was moving forward quicker than America. I'm saying, it took America a couple hundred years (plus how many more generations fermenting these ideas in Britain), do you really think it'll take a place like the Phillipines a few hundred years of industrialization to get similar labor laws? I sure don't.
Take a certain shrimp farm in Costa Rica. A certain environmental consulting corporation here in America owns it.
They rebuilt it. They used better science to keep more of the shrimp alive, to get more (uh oh, look out now) PROFITS!
I hear the manager at said shrimp farm makes the piddly horrendous sum of $16,000 US per year! How can this vile environmental corporation enslave this foreman! He's the dude in charge, pay him at least $20k!
But you know what? The guy lives like a king. He has more money than any of his friends. He's ecstatic.
Not that I'm intimately familiar with said shrimp farm or anything.
I love those planes with the leather seats all the way to the last row and each one has a little TV in the back of the one in front... outstanding. Now, when the hell are they coming to DC?:)
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should we not also have globalization of ethical awareness too ?
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Go ahead. Build an organization dedicated to it. Sounds great, I'd like to see it.
You think throwing rocks at IMF meetings will get that acoomplished? Ever? No matter how many rocks?
Watch: After a company moves in, exploits the workers for a while, the workers' rules and regulations eventually catch up... and you know what? They never would change if something didn't change them! Look how long the world was stagnant. The USA changes the world with industrialism and everyone hates it... even though everyones' standard of living is rising. Everyones'.
Please please please, all of you liberal, or socialist, or leftist, black-mask wearing protesters please read the Economist article.
Would you really stop large corporations? Would you really want to deny people in the 3rd world a chance to move ahead far more quickly than America ever did?
I totally agree that cultural homogenization is horrendous, but the vast majority of people the world over apparently don't agree! That doesn't prevent small, unique businesses and institutions from existing! There are still mom-and-pop ISPs out there! There are still small manufacturing companies!
Why do you folks insist that the world is coming to an end, and that multinationals are taking us there?? Reading too much cyberpunk fiction?
(note: I hate the homogeneity. I abhor Walmart, McD's, and their ilk. I'll buy by stuff from tiny stores when I can. Because I want to support local, unique business, even if that means I have to pay a few extra bucks. How about you?)
We certainly are the competition. And I would suspect that simple tools for simple machines (Astaro Security Linux as a firewall/proxy/VPN device -- what a great tool this is!) would enable us to replace much Microsoft in the very small business sector (say, under 30 employees).
My in-laws, for example, are still using Pentium 1's, a DOS file server, File Maker, etc... They could use a little juicing up, but don't want to spend much $$. Sounds good to me.
Let's not forget that the economy is in the dumper, and that, even if you buy that MS is anti-competitive (which I do), it is a gigantic piece (for a single company) of the American economy.
To destroy MS (or significantly damage it) in this economic climate would be political suicide, regardless of what a number of tech-heads think (particularly since we're oh-so-powerful politically...:)).
Americans lets remember when it's time to vote again that Bush has brought dignity and carefully reasoned thought back to the White House, as opposed to the goof that he replaced.
(NB: I'm a libertarian, one of the few who actually voted for Harry Browne. But I respect the hell of a job Bush has done so far)
(3) is not what most corporations think about when they are going overseas. [snip]
This is such a whiny bleeding heart rant I almost can't type from giggling.
Ask yourself this: Do the people in said foreign nations benefit from working for Nike (etc)?
Are they not better off now than they were as cow herders and rice farmers? I would say so. Take a look at average lifespan.
And then give up your TV, VCR, clothing and whatever else you bought for cheap at Walmart and only buy American (then you'll complain how high prices are!).
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What in the world makes you think we aren't putting pressure on other said "terror supporting" countries?
Hmm, and from what I have seen, the $43 mil/did/, in fact, make a hefty dent in the world heroin production.
(No one will ever see this message, story too dated. Darn)
THAT'S WHAT YOU SHOULD DO!!!!
A List Apart has the right idea! Just program for the standards and you know what?? If the client works, so will your page! I'm sick and tired to asking who the user is before putting out the page... my pages just put out a standard, and if your client can't handle it... your client be busted!
You can/almost/ buy into what this guy is saying, the conspiracy theory he's throwing out, until the last paragraph or two where he calls our President "the Bushies" and the "phony president".
Nice try, but I'd like to read something non-partisan, not some kind of whiny liberal conspiratorial pap.
Someone modded this up to 5 as interesting? Sheesh.
It occurs to me, that given the nature of people going with what they've been trained on, that it's no surprise that Windows is the "common desktop".
But to suggest that Linux fails to compete is just dull-witted, at least.
My surprise is that everyone is expecting Linux to be some sort of polished UI system in well under 10 years (consider the desktop 'development' really only took off in the last couple years--sorry FVWM doesn't count), when it took $billions, and a lot longer, for MS to even approach polished.
Imagine a world where Linux desktop development had even 1/100th of the budget that MS spends...
The guy has no clue. On page 1 or 2, he says that you can't get drivers for linux. It's sooooo hard. (never mind the fact that any real distribution these days detects just about everything right on install).
Then later (page 4) he says "Linux is effectively a commodity and can be made to work on any hardware system."
Thanks for posting these quotes. I love this guy. But if it's not for places like here (and Ars, for instance. Go Ars!), only the rare person would take the time to read his comments and notice that they actually/mean/ something.
Of course they guy will get portrayed as a nut case anarchist or some greasy kid... I think it's up to peeps like us to keep pushing the buttons.
Last time I checked, I was able to check out the source of any damn Linux release I want... and hmm... let's see.... yep, there's some change lists in here.
No wonder you're anonymous, I wouldn't want to admit I was a moron to the world, either.
Nice try genius.
A perfectly valid example of an anticompetitive practice is using one's dominance in one industry to force consumers to use one's product in another.
MS's abuse this time as akin to Ford saying "if thou wantest to drive our cars, thou shalt only use Goodyear tyres." Which is patently absurd (especially with the faux biblical wording...).
Someone thought you were insightful? You apparently have no concept of location-based services or using GIS technology to understand where your customers are coming from.
All they ask you for is your zip code around here. Zip = general geographic area. Get a few tens of thousands of customers' zip codes, and poof, you have a nice map of where your customers come from.
What good is this? Take said map, find the places where there are a lot of customers and no Your Store, and poof, you have a pretty good idea where to build your next one.
That cat thing was dodgy to be sure, but don't knock geography.:)
I have good hardware. Has no trouble running anything. Unless it's Counter-Strike, and then on a real simple alt-tab (or god help me if I leave the machine and the screen saver kicks in).
Poof.
Some kind of memory error that I don't really feel like figuring out.
"Oh," you say, "Playing games. Pshaw." Well yes. But I'll bet games push computing hardware one hell of a lot harder than your little office apps, and I'd suspect combat simulations, command, and control take one hell of a lot more cycles than either of us ever use.
I wouldn't trust CCCI systems to Linux either, btw...
Everything you said is wrong. How does that feel? To konw that no one word of your whining was correct in any way? I don't even feel like refuting it, just thought I'd point it out.
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Here's a misconception for you: That somehow Americans getting richer is taking away from the rest of the world. As if there is only one pie, and it is being eaten.
/created/ every day, not "stolen" from someone else!
Nothing can be further from the truth! The world economy is NOT operating under the laws of thermodynamics! Wealth is
For the record, I never said that the 3rd world was moving forward quicker than America. I'm saying, it took America a couple hundred years (plus how many more generations fermenting these ideas in Britain), do you really think it'll take a place like the Phillipines a few hundred years of industrialization to get similar labor laws? I sure don't.
Spot on, my libertarian friend.
Take a certain shrimp farm in Costa Rica. A certain environmental consulting corporation here in America owns it.
They rebuilt it. They used better science to keep more of the shrimp alive, to get more (uh oh, look out now) PROFITS!
I hear the manager at said shrimp farm makes the piddly horrendous sum of $16,000 US per year! How can this vile environmental corporation enslave this foreman! He's the dude in charge, pay him at least $20k!
But you know what? The guy lives like a king. He has more money than any of his friends. He's ecstatic.
Not that I'm intimately familiar with said shrimp farm or anything.
Goooooo Jet Blue. :)
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I love those planes with the leather seats all the way to the last row and each one has a little TV in the back of the one in front... outstanding. Now, when the hell are they coming to DC?
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should we not also have globalization of ethical awareness too ?
--
Go ahead. Build an organization dedicated to it. Sounds great, I'd like to see it.
You think throwing rocks at IMF meetings will get that acoomplished? Ever? No matter how many rocks?
Watch: After a company moves in, exploits the workers for a while, the workers' rules and regulations eventually catch up... and you know what? They never would change if something didn't change them! Look how long the world was stagnant. The USA changes the world with industrialism and everyone hates it... even though everyones' standard of living is rising. Everyones'.
Realizing I'll get flamed to hell and back...
Please please please, all of you liberal, or socialist, or leftist, black-mask wearing protesters please read the Economist article.
Would you really stop large corporations? Would you really want to deny people in the 3rd world a chance to move ahead far more quickly than America ever did?
I totally agree that cultural homogenization is horrendous, but the vast majority of people the world over apparently don't agree! That doesn't prevent small, unique businesses and institutions from existing! There are still mom-and-pop ISPs out there! There are still small manufacturing companies!
Why do you folks insist that the world is coming to an end, and that multinationals are taking us there?? Reading too much cyberpunk fiction?
(note: I hate the homogeneity. I abhor Walmart, McD's, and their ilk. I'll buy by stuff from tiny stores when I can. Because I want to support local, unique business, even if that means I have to pay a few extra bucks. How about you?)
Excellent post. :)
We certainly are the competition. And I would suspect that simple tools for simple machines (Astaro Security Linux as a firewall/proxy/VPN device -- what a great tool this is!) would enable us to replace much Microsoft in the very small business sector (say, under 30 employees).
My in-laws, for example, are still using Pentium 1's, a DOS file server, File Maker, etc... They could use a little juicing up, but don't want to spend much $$. Sounds good to me.
Let's not forget that the economy is in the dumper, and that, even if you buy that MS is anti-competitive (which I do), it is a gigantic piece (for a single company) of the American economy.
To destroy MS (or significantly damage it) in this economic climate would be political suicide, regardless of what a number of tech-heads think (particularly since we're oh-so-powerful politically...:)).
Americans lets remember when it's time to vote again that Bush has brought dignity and carefully reasoned thought back to the White House, as opposed to the goof that he replaced.
(NB: I'm a libertarian, one of the few who actually voted for Harry Browne. But I respect the hell of a job Bush has done so far)
Aw, weep weep weep. Someone takes a shot at something you like and you piss about it. Congrats.
Gimme a friggin' break you asocial reject.
(3) is not what most corporations think about when they are going overseas. [snip]
This is such a whiny bleeding heart rant I almost can't type from giggling.
Ask yourself this: Do the people in said foreign nations benefit from working for Nike (etc)?
Are they not better off now than they were as cow herders and rice farmers? I would say so. Take a look at average lifespan.
And then give up your TV, VCR, clothing and whatever else you bought for cheap at Walmart and only buy American (then you'll complain how high prices are!).
What in the world makes you think we aren't putting pressure on other said "terror supporting" countries?
/did/, in fact, make a hefty dent in the world heroin production.
Hmm, and from what I have seen, the $43 mil
(No one will ever see this message, story too dated. Darn)
THAT'S WHAT YOU SHOULD DO!!!!
A List Apart has the right idea! Just program for the standards and you know what?? If the client works, so will your page! I'm sick and tired to asking who the user is before putting out the page... my pages just put out a standard, and if your client can't handle it... your client be busted!
What a surprise this got modded up to 5.
/almost/ buy into what this guy is saying, the conspiracy theory he's throwing out, until the last paragraph or two where he calls our President "the Bushies" and the "phony president".
You can
Nice try, but I'd like to read something non-partisan, not some kind of whiny liberal conspiratorial pap.
From one Libertarian to another:
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Ahhhhh, to dream.
Someone modded this up to 5 as interesting? Sheesh.
It occurs to me, that given the nature of people going with what they've been trained on, that it's no surprise that Windows is the "common desktop".
But to suggest that Linux fails to compete is just dull-witted, at least.
My surprise is that everyone is expecting Linux to be some sort of polished UI system in well under 10 years (consider the desktop 'development' really only took off in the last couple years--sorry FVWM doesn't count), when it took $billions, and a lot longer, for MS to even approach polished.
Imagine a world where Linux desktop development had even 1/100th of the budget that MS spends...
The guy has no clue. On page 1 or 2, he says that you can't get drivers for linux. It's sooooo hard. (never mind the fact that any real distribution these days detects just about everything right on install).
Then later (page 4) he says "Linux is effectively a commodity and can be made to work on any hardware system."
Reconcile those two, if you can. I can't.
Thanks for posting these quotes. I love this guy. But if it's not for places like here (and Ars, for instance. Go Ars!), only the rare person would take the time to read his comments and notice that they actually /mean/ something.
Of course they guy will get portrayed as a nut case anarchist or some greasy kid... I think it's up to peeps like us to keep pushing the buttons.
Man, I love this kind of thing.
You're such an idiot, yet you run BSD. Go figure.
Last time I checked, I was able to check out the source of any damn Linux release I want... and hmm... let's see.... yep, there's some change lists in here.
No wonder you're anonymous, I wouldn't want to admit I was a moron to the world, either.
Nice try genius.
A perfectly valid example of an anticompetitive practice is using one's dominance in one industry to force consumers to use one's product in another.
MS's abuse this time as akin to Ford saying "if thou wantest to drive our cars, thou shalt only use Goodyear tyres." Which is patently absurd (especially with the faux biblical wording...).
Someone thought you were insightful? You apparently have no concept of location-based services or using GIS technology to understand where your customers are coming from.
:)
All they ask you for is your zip code around here. Zip = general geographic area. Get a few tens of thousands of customers' zip codes, and poof, you have a nice map of where your customers come from.
What good is this? Take said map, find the places where there are a lot of customers and no Your Store, and poof, you have a pretty good idea where to build your next one.
That cat thing was dodgy to be sure, but don't knock geography.
Heh. you dumbass. A coward too.
The real reason KDE is ahead? They started first.
It /is/ a democracy you whiner. Fact is, more people want something that you don't want. You're in the minority.
Hmm...
Win2k, 65000 bugs.... RELEASED. People paid money for it (a lot of money in some cases).
Mozilla, 100000 bugs.... still beta. Free. Libre.
STFU. Thank you.
I'll give you one.
I have good hardware. Has no trouble running anything. Unless it's Counter-Strike, and then on a real simple alt-tab (or god help me if I leave the machine and the screen saver kicks in).
Poof.
Some kind of memory error that I don't really feel like figuring out.
"Oh," you say, "Playing games. Pshaw." Well yes. But I'll bet games push computing hardware one hell of a lot harder than your little office apps, and I'd suspect combat simulations, command, and control take one hell of a lot more cycles than either of us ever use.
I wouldn't trust CCCI systems to Linux either, btw...
Chicken shit moron.
Everything you said is wrong. How does that feel? To konw that no one word of your whining was correct in any way? I don't even feel like refuting it, just thought I'd point it out.
Chicken shit A/C.
You, sir, are an asshole.
I suspect you'll look back and read your little tripe in a few years (say, after you hit age 20) and hang your head in shame.