But HeUnique posts another "Halloween Document", which turns out to be a piece of satire. Everyone erupts into anger about Microsoft, and then later claims that they knew it was a hoax all along.
Film at 11.
Is there a retraction coming? By any chance?
--- What do I do, when it seems I relate to Judas more than You?
Well, I don't know about other schools, but if you were "ahead" in math at my school, you could take Calc. I personally took it through Calculus two in high school.
What do I do, when it seems I relate to Judas more than You?
The first problem you'll have to fight is the groups who are opposed to man playing "God."
Yeah, the main thing that worries me about that scenario is that people tend to make mistakes. I'm all for technology, and this sounds like one of the cooler applications of genetic engineering, but I don't know where we should draw the line.
Tech for betterment of humanity is a very good thing.
Tech because we think we ought to may or may not be. In the end, we may or may not "Get It".
Saying "nothing will ever go wrong" or anything like that makes me a little nervous- Just remember, this is the same culture that gave us such incredibly amazing things as the Hampster Dance...
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China has to have learned from the US and the Russians. When we were trying this kind of stuff in the fifties and sixties, it was all theoretical. It had never been done before. It's all well-documented now.
China already has been making quite a bit of progress in the area of spaceflight, recently- See the articles about how they are preparing for
manned spaceflight. They are not as backwards as some people believe, technologically.
They already have a good variety of launchers, as shown here. They have more powerful and more accurate rockets than we did when we first started sending boosters to the moon. So why is this so unreasonable? Plus, its not like they're saying they are going to go next week. It's going to be a space program. They're going to go through all the research and design, the work, and then do it.
If they can keep up the pace that a lunar program would take, then why not? Plus, you have to admit, the propaganda value for the Chinese would be incredibly valuable... just as it was for America in the sixties.
What do I do, when it seems I relate to Judas more than You?
Hate to tell you, but you unknowingly stumbled upon some truth.
The Challenger actually was originally something of a mock-up. From the beginning, it was STA-099- thats Structural Test Article 099. It was built to the same specs the Enterprise (OVO-101) was built to. Subsequently, the Enterprise (which was originally going to be called the Constitution- the trekkies got the name changed) was found to be too weak for actual operations (specifically the wings), and was grounded- it's now more of a display piece than anything. They then replaced the wings of the Challenger with up-to-new-spec wings and used it as an orbiter, changing the designator to OVO-099. Didn't have anything at all to do with the distruction, but just kinda interesting.
Not that I'm under the dilusion that anyone will read this, except perhaps the author (nice troll, sx). Just a little bit of interesting stuff.
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Thank God theres someone else here paying attention to the actual programs and problems, instead of the hype put out by LM. Sucks about the DC-X/Delta Clipper, seems like it was about the best idea around. But no, NASA just had to go with the most unproven concept...
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I knew I would get a reply like this. You seem to have missed my point, entirely.
I'm saying the technology for an efficent SSTO rocket isn't here yet. First off, you need to have an extremely light rocket, or its not even going to matter. Consider this:
To lift the mass of a single stage launcher using hydorgen/oxygen rockets (currently our highest conventional specific impulse fuel), you have to carry along eight times the unfueled weight of the rocket in fuel.
You must now have an extremely light, large rocket. So, it pretty much has to be built out of composites. You now have a really big fuel tank with a payload. So let's consider the engines.
You need some damn powerful engines, and damn adaptable engines. Bell rockets won't cut it- the Aerospike is the only concept that even comes close. So, you have a rocket made out of emerging materials on top of a semi-proven rocket design (I say semi-proven since the Aerospike has never been used, to my knowledge, on an actual rocket). Quite a bit of stuff to develop. Quite a bit of unproven technology.
And now, since you have 8 to 1 propellant to spacecraft, you don't have a real lot of room left over for the payload.
What I'm saying is that SSTO is quite the challenge. It's something that I'm not sure that is feasable, as yet- theres a lot of unknowns. To this date, the best alternative is staging- you drop weight as you go. Since you drop significant weight with each stage, you have less rocket to keep going. The (as promised) VentureStar might be uber efficent, but I suspect that when it hits the cold, hard light of reality, that tenfold reduction of cost argument will fall through, just as it did with the Space Shuttle. If they even get it into orbit- there is yet to be a rocket built capable of a single stage insertion into orbit.
What do I do, when it seems I relate to Judas more than You?
Yeah there are problems with the X-33- we're still not at a point where it makes sense to have a single stage to orbit spacecraft!
So it sounds like a great idea... everything is reusable, and if it works on cars and planes, then why not on a spacecraft? But you have to take a *lot* of fuel along. The reason staging works is that what you're pushing gets progressively lighter as you go. Yeah, its wasteful, but it works, damnit. If you want something really nice, design a two stage rocket with both stages reusable.
What you get with current tech is a really big fuel tank, pushing up a comparatively small payload.
What do I do, when it seems I relate to Judas more than You?
So, what's to stop me setting up my own transmitter to overload a given area (say, the 70,000 square miles around my house) with a million fake planes?
Nothing. Hack away. They will ignore it and use the old system of identifying an aircraft based on transponder code, instead of GPS code. It'd be an inpressive hack to be able to spoof millions of fake aircraft to the radar system. And contrary to the extremely miselading title, radar ain't going away.
Or what if I know the id code of a plane before it gets to me, and I start broadcasting that I'm that plane?
Well, since the other plane would be in communication with ATC still, it'd be kinda obvious that something fishy is going on. Then, the controller would proabably request that the pilot squawks his transponder with the assigned code that they were given upon their IFR release. It would be cleared up which one the real aircraft was, and they would track that aircraft.
What happens when it arrives?
They set it up for an approach, since the aircraft in question has been working in the system and is being tracked. If you were early, they would proabably request that you go into a hold until a specified time, or if they cleared you to land, someone is going to eventually notice that there isn't a plane on the ground, and Cessna 23FOO is still communicating with the air route traffic control center...
What do I do, when it seems I relate to Judas more than You?
They're all weather reporting systems. They play a recording, usually updated on the hour, that tells you all kinds of good stuff, like wind speed/direction, visibility, cloud layer height, and other good stuff. They also tell you what the current altimeter setting is at that airport. You usually plug in the nearest one and go. Or, you communicate with someone in Flight Service and they can tell you a setting to use.
What do I do, when it seems I relate to Judas more than You?
First off. RADAR WILL NOT BE RETIRED. If theres one thing extremely important in aviation, its redundancy. I'm talking multiple, anal retentive type redundancy. For an aircraft to even be able to fly into the clouds, you have to have two VORs (a type of vector-based radio navigation, flying radials off of VOR stations). You cannot go out of radar coverage in the United States for more than 65 miles- not per regulation, but thats how good the coverage is. Plus, theres the ADF, which works off of radio towers and just kinda points towards the towers. And LORAN. And plain old pilotage. If you are truly have good situational awareness, something can fail and you can keep flying without going into a mountain.
The entire aviation industry seems kind of backwards in ways, for one reason- safety. They are among the last to adopt new technologies. Take, for instance, the E6-B. It's basically a slide rule for pilots. They've been using it for years and years. They still require you to know how to use it, even if you have a digital flight computer.
In addition, GPS approaches have been used for some time now. Its a non-precision instrument approach, since it doesn't give you information based on your glideslope. It's pretty damn reliable, but most airports have more approaches than just the GPS approach, so if you are in instrument weather and can't see to the ground, you can request another type. If you are so lost that you don't know where you are at all, something is very wrong.
So, onward to the point. This may be a great technology, but it will be introduced slowly, if it is found to be unreliable, it will be scrapped. It sounds like a great navaid. The pilot will still be in communication with the air traffic controller, though, and still has the other instruments (including the compass- pretty hard to spoof that one) that they have flew on for so many years.
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There *are* options... Yeah, it's not cool to require people to use the official AOL client, but ya know what? It's their servers, it's their network, etc... It's not like http or ftp or ssh or something along those lines. It's corporate
Don't like it? Use ICQ, or create your own. Or use IRC- it's an open protocol for Gods sake.
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> At times, I get -bytes- of data. Not even kilobytes...
I've experienced the same thing. The problem around my area was games, though- you get an entire dorm playing (insert your favorite/least favorite game) and it sucks the bandwidth real quick.
Of course, YMMV.
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Well, it seems they have to do this every few months. I don't know exactly why, but they seem to get a kick out of it-- first it was the official java version, then the official gtk version. When will they finally let up? It's just a client!
Does the new one show ads? Thats the only reason that I can see that they would want to have people use it! Or perhaps an undefined "security risk". Right. Security through obscurity is not always a good idea.
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Redhat would not install on a promise 66 offboard controller without physically switching the UDMA 66 off. At least in my experience. Same thing with slack, though I wouldn't have hooked up a newbie on slack...
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Very well might. Haven't tried it tho- Mandrake was just the first one that didn't puke on install. The only one that I have personal experience with that supported it.
Maybe it's just that redhat is brain dead...
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It's the only distro I've seen so far that supports UDMA66 out of the box. You don't know how nice that is when working with new computers. UDMA 66 has been the only thing that has kept us from installing linux on a friend's computer, and now she has a brand new, shiny OS. Very nice.
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Slashdot Mirror
Hell yeah.
Welcome back, shoeboy.
What do I do, when it seems I relate to Judas more than You?
But HeUnique posts another "Halloween Document", which turns out to be a piece of satire. Everyone erupts into anger about Microsoft, and then later claims that they knew it was a hoax all along.
Film at 11.
Is there a retraction coming? By any chance?
---
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Geek geek Matt Bruce geek geek Henrietta Pussycat geek geek Presidents of the United States of America geek Kitty?
;)
Katz, is that you?
What do I do, when it seems I relate to Judas more than You?
Well, I don't know about other schools, but if you were "ahead" in math at my school, you could take Calc. I personally took it through Calculus two in high school.
What do I do, when it seems I relate to Judas more than You?
The first problem you'll have to fight is the groups who are opposed to man playing "God."
Yeah, the main thing that worries me about that scenario is that people tend to make mistakes. I'm all for technology, and this sounds like one of the cooler applications of genetic engineering, but I don't know where we should draw the line.
Tech for betterment of humanity is a very good thing.
Tech because we think we ought to may or may not be. In the end, we may or may not "Get It".
Saying "nothing will ever go wrong" or anything like that makes me a little nervous- Just remember, this is the same culture that gave us such incredibly amazing things as the Hampster Dance...
What do I do, when it seems I relate to Judas more than You?
Excuse me?
I think that they got a good chance.
China has to have learned from the US and the Russians. When we were trying this kind of stuff in the fifties and sixties, it was all theoretical. It had never been done before. It's all well-documented now.
China already has been making quite a bit of progress in the area of spaceflight, recently- See the articles about how they are preparing for
manned spaceflight. They are not as backwards as some people believe, technologically.
They already have a good variety of launchers, as shown here. They have more powerful and more accurate rockets than we did when we first started sending boosters to the moon. So why is this so unreasonable? Plus, its not like they're saying they are going to go next week. It's going to be a space program. They're going to go through all the research and design, the work, and then do it.
If they can keep up the pace that a lunar program would take, then why not? Plus, you have to admit, the propaganda value for the Chinese would be incredibly valuable... just as it was for America in the sixties.
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Solely so Malda could have a URL of slash dot dot dot.
What do I do, when it seems I relate to Judas more than You?
I still want my damn PBY. Or maybe an Albatross... something big, noisy, and floatable.
:)
But a little Beaver now and then is nice, too...
What do I do, when it seems I relate to Judas more than You?
Hate to tell you, but you unknowingly stumbled upon some truth.
The Challenger actually was originally something of a mock-up. From the beginning, it was STA-099- thats Structural Test Article 099. It was built to the same specs the Enterprise (OVO-101) was built to. Subsequently, the Enterprise (which was originally going to be called the Constitution- the trekkies got the name changed) was found to be too weak for actual operations (specifically the wings), and was grounded- it's now more of a display piece than anything. They then replaced the wings of the Challenger with up-to-new-spec wings and used it as an orbiter, changing the designator to OVO-099. Didn't have anything at all to do with the distruction, but just kinda interesting.
Not that I'm under the dilusion that anyone will read this, except perhaps the author (nice troll, sx). Just a little bit of interesting stuff.
What do I do, when it seems I relate to Judas more than You?
This Distro Goes To 11.
I like that.
I *really* like that.
What do I do, when it seems I relate to Judas more than You?
Thank God theres someone else here paying attention to the actual programs and problems, instead of the hype put out by LM. Sucks about the DC-X/Delta Clipper, seems like it was about the best idea around. But no, NASA just had to go with the most unproven concept...
What do I do, when it seems I relate to Judas more than You?
I knew I would get a reply like this. You seem to have missed my point, entirely.
I'm saying the technology for an efficent SSTO rocket isn't here yet. First off, you need to have an extremely light rocket, or its not even going to matter. Consider this:
To lift the mass of a single stage launcher using hydorgen/oxygen rockets (currently our highest conventional specific impulse fuel), you have to carry along eight times the unfueled weight of the rocket in fuel.
You must now have an extremely light, large rocket. So, it pretty much has to be built out of composites. You now have a really big fuel tank with a payload. So let's consider the engines.
You need some damn powerful engines, and damn adaptable engines. Bell rockets won't cut it- the Aerospike is the only concept that even comes close. So, you have a rocket made out of emerging materials on top of a semi-proven rocket design (I say semi-proven since the Aerospike has never been used, to my knowledge, on an actual rocket). Quite a bit of stuff to develop. Quite a bit of unproven technology.
And now, since you have 8 to 1 propellant to spacecraft, you don't have a real lot of room left over for the payload.
What I'm saying is that SSTO is quite the challenge. It's something that I'm not sure that is feasable, as yet- theres a lot of unknowns. To this date, the best alternative is staging- you drop weight as you go. Since you drop significant weight with each stage, you have less rocket to keep going. The (as promised) VentureStar might be uber efficent, but I suspect that when it hits the cold, hard light of reality, that tenfold reduction of cost argument will fall through, just as it did with the Space Shuttle. If they even get it into orbit- there is yet to be a rocket built capable of a single stage insertion into orbit.
What do I do, when it seems I relate to Judas more than You?
Yeah there are problems with the X-33- we're still not at a point where it makes sense to have a single stage to orbit spacecraft!
So it sounds like a great idea... everything is reusable, and if it works on cars and planes, then why not on a spacecraft? But you have to take a *lot* of fuel along. The reason staging works is that what you're pushing gets progressively lighter as you go. Yeah, its wasteful, but it works, damnit. If you want something really nice, design a two stage rocket with both stages reusable.
What you get with current tech is a really big fuel tank, pushing up a comparatively small payload.
What do I do, when it seems I relate to Judas more than You?
So, what's to stop me setting up my own transmitter to overload a given area (say, the 70,000 square miles around my house) with a million fake planes?
Nothing. Hack away. They will ignore it and use the old system of identifying an aircraft based on transponder code, instead of GPS code. It'd be an inpressive hack to be able to spoof millions of fake aircraft to the radar system. And contrary to the extremely miselading title, radar ain't going away.
Or what if I know the id code of a plane before it gets to me, and I start broadcasting that I'm that plane?
Well, since the other plane would be in communication with ATC still, it'd be kinda obvious that something fishy is going on. Then, the controller would proabably request that the pilot squawks his transponder with the assigned code that they were given upon their IFR release. It would be cleared up which one the real aircraft was, and they would track that aircraft.
What happens when it arrives?
They set it up for an approach, since the aircraft in question has been working in the system and is being tracked. If you were early, they would proabably request that you go into a hold until a specified time, or if they cleared you to land, someone is going to eventually notice that there isn't a plane on the ground, and Cessna 23FOO is still communicating with the air route traffic control center...
What do I do, when it seems I relate to Judas more than You?
Ever heard of ATIS? ASOS? AWOS?
They're all weather reporting systems. They play a recording, usually updated on the hour, that tells you all kinds of good stuff, like wind speed/direction, visibility, cloud layer height, and other good stuff. They also tell you what the current altimeter setting is at that airport. You usually plug in the nearest one and go. Or, you communicate with someone in Flight Service and they can tell you a setting to use.
What do I do, when it seems I relate to Judas more than You?
First off. RADAR WILL NOT BE RETIRED. If theres one thing extremely important in aviation, its redundancy. I'm talking multiple, anal retentive type redundancy. For an aircraft to even be able to fly into the clouds, you have to have two VORs (a type of vector-based radio navigation, flying radials off of VOR stations). You cannot go out of radar coverage in the United States for more than 65 miles- not per regulation, but thats how good the coverage is. Plus, theres the ADF, which works off of radio towers and just kinda points towards the towers. And LORAN. And plain old pilotage. If you are truly have good situational awareness, something can fail and you can keep flying without going into a mountain.
The entire aviation industry seems kind of backwards in ways, for one reason- safety. They are among the last to adopt new technologies. Take, for instance, the E6-B. It's basically a slide rule for pilots. They've been using it for years and years. They still require you to know how to use it, even if you have a digital flight computer.
In addition, GPS approaches have been used for some time now. Its a non-precision instrument approach, since it doesn't give you information based on your glideslope. It's pretty damn reliable, but most airports have more approaches than just the GPS approach, so if you are in instrument weather and can't see to the ground, you can request another type. If you are so lost that you don't know where you are at all, something is very wrong.
So, onward to the point. This may be a great technology, but it will be introduced slowly, if it is found to be unreliable, it will be scrapped. It sounds like a great navaid. The pilot will still be in communication with the air traffic controller, though, and still has the other instruments (including the compass- pretty hard to spoof that one) that they have flew on for so many years.
What do I do, when it seems I relate to Judas more than You?
Please let meept post. PLEASE let meept post!
God I loved that guy. Well, actually I loved how everybody got all reactionary against him. Grits just ain't the same.
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All I want for christmas is a decent CLI
A decent CLI
A decent Windows CLI...
What do I do, when it seems I relate to Judas more than You?
Don't like it? Use ICQ, or create your own. Or use IRC- it's an open protocol for Gods sake.
What do I do, when it seems I relate to Judas more than You?
I've experienced the same thing. The problem around my area was games, though- you get an entire dorm playing (insert your favorite/least favorite game) and it sucks the bandwidth real quick.
Of course, YMMV.
What do I do, when it seems I relate to Judas more than You?
Does the new one show ads? Thats the only reason that I can see that they would want to have people use it! Or perhaps an undefined "security risk". Right. Security through obscurity is not always a good idea.
What do I do, when it seems I relate to Judas more than You?
What do I do, when it seems I relate to Judas more than You?
Maybe it's just that redhat is brain dead...
What do I do, when it seems I relate to Judas more than You?
For one reason.
It's the only distro I've seen so far that supports UDMA66 out of the box. You don't know how nice that is when working with new computers. UDMA 66 has been the only thing that has kept us from installing linux on a friend's computer, and now she has a brand new, shiny OS. Very nice.
What do I do, when it seems I relate to Judas more than You?
*ducks*
What do I do, when it seems I relate to Judas more than You?