I'm pretty sure it's based on 7.2 PRE, not 7.1. The summary also makes it look like the software manager is a new feature, which it is not. The PBI system has been around for a while in PC-BSD.
I dunno, I think there are enough script kiddie contests. I want to see more real hacker contests - like where the winner actually finds a new exploit, or even one where the winner fixes an exploit and provides a patch.
Even though you're whining, you know that 95% of the time, it is the system drive on a windows machine. If you're working tech support, and someone comes up and tells you their c: just exploded, then you're going to know what they mean. And don't even try to argue that you think it's a floppy drive, that's just plain silly. Who even uses those anymore?
Whether or not C: is always the system partition or not is irrelevant to my point. I was just pointing out the benefits of the "UNIX way" of naming and using block devices. Like I said,/dev/hda3 tells me it's the 3rd partition on the first (drive 0) drive in the system, and that it's most likely IDE. C: tells me nothing of the sort, just like D: or E: or Z: or AAAA:. The "Windows way" also lacks quick and easy ways to directly access the block device, just as it lacks quick and easy ways to mount any device at any point in the directory hierarchy.
What's wrong with good ole c:? Whenever you read it, you know exactly what the person is talking about. If you go with hda3 or somesuch, you're not going to know if you're talking about a swap file or what have you. Linux is unnecessarily complicated on this point. I've gone through hell trying to get my flash drive working on different linux machines at work because they aren't set up to mount sda volumes or somesuch. Then I couldn't fix the problem because the only guy who knew the su password was out of town. Went home early that day -- so I guess it wasn't all bad. /dev/hda3? Why that's the 3rd partition on the first hard drive in the system, of course.
What's wrong with C:? What is C:? What is E:? Is it a mapped drive? Is it a floppy? CD-ROM? Is it my USB keyring? C: isn't always the system drive on your Windows machine - I've had systems that for whatever reason had the G: or D: drive as the system drive. What do you mean C: isn't actually the drive itself? What do I do if I need to access the block device directly? What do you mean...
I guess it's all a matter of preference. Right now my glibc is washing the dishes, which is great since my wife won't. However, in some other house they might want glibc to stay the hell out of the kitchen.
You mean you had to learn how your computer worked to make it work?
Come on - you gotta admit it's so much easier to pop a shiny disc thing into the box, hit the button, and have it do its thing so that you can get right to posting on the Ubuntu forums to complain about having to type "sudo" before you want to do something in that annoying little "terminal" window that they should work on getting rid of asap.
"Many Ubuntu users, including me, have noticed that the latency of desktop operations got significantly larger around the time Gutsy was released, which coincides with the Completely Fair Scheduler and kernel upgrade from 2.6.18."
Uhh.. I didn't see anything in there about the Complete Fair Queuing - you just mentioned Completely Fair Scheduler, then kernel 2.6.18.
"Feisty had the 2.6.18 kernel and was quite responsive, so CFQ is in the clear. Gutsy featured 2.6.23 with CFS and was much slower which means it is a possible suspect."
This performance bug has been reported since 2.6.18.
This I/O scheduler was introduced as the default in 2.6.18 and available since 2.6.13. I wonder if that has something to do with it. I'm going to test it out on my home machines later today and have a look-see.
Supposedly it can be disabled and the AS scheduler can be used if you change it at runtime in/sys/block/hda/queue/scheduler, or use the "elevator=as" boot option.
And when you get your annual renewal feature key - you'll go to type it in and submit it but it won't be able to authenticate the license key. So, you'll have to call SonicWall for a 100-character manual license key and sit on hold for forever listening to that damned SonicWall hold music.
Now I've got it stuck in my head.
Ta ta ta ta... ta ta ta ta... doo doo dee dooo dee doooo dee dooo... ta ta ta ta... ta ta ta ta... doo doo dee dooo dee doooo dee dooo... ta ta ta ta... ta ta ta ta...
Knowing SonicWall, this will be a feature in next years product line - except it will only "work" between other SonicWall products. It won't actually do anything, but they'll claim that it does - yet they won't provide any technical details (let alone source code) on the inner workings.
Actually, it does. The i7 way outperforms the Phenoms - but I'm talking the old "Core" quad line.
You see, with the i7's - Intel actually got around to doing it right: true monolithic cores, and integrated memory controllers. AMD has been doing this for a while now. When you look at overall performance including memory access and peripheral/bus access - the Phenoms were ahead of the old Intel quads (which were just hacked-together dual core CPUs).
Unless you were comparing your OC'ed CPU to a stock Intel
I was.
It's kinda sad to see AMD's latest best offering that's 2 months old barely managing to compete with a 2 year old chip...
It's kind of sad to see a giant such as Intel following in AMD's architectural footsteps. Like I and others have said: "Intel works harder, AMD works smarter"
You can get a good AM2+ motherboard for under $100. DDR2 is cheap, and the price point for these CPUS is looking pretty good.
My primary home machine is an AM2+ Phenom 9950 BE overclocked to 3.0GHz. The Phenoms are easily overclocked using stock cooling - I spent only $900 on this machine including a 9800 GTX GPU, 2GHz 1066mhz RAM, and a WD Raptor HDD - and this box hauls ass. It easily smokes most Intel quad boxes I've seen that cost several hundred more.
I'll always run Intel on servers and what not - but for a workstation/desktop you can't go wrong with AMD. Hell, now that I think about it - I've had more stability problems with Intel than I've had with AMD. I guess it's time to re-think my server platforms.
I have cell phones and wireless access points (which I keep FAR away from my pregnant wife and will keep away from the young man), I DEFINITELY deny using a microwave oven unless absolutely unavoidable (once a month?). No I do not have air purifiers and spray "kill 99% germs" shit all around the house, and better have my kids play with my dogs' shit other than operate a microwave oven, I think that wireless power is something I definitely something I want to keep away from: young souls, pregnant women and my testicles.
I am the psychotherapist. Please, describe your problems. Each time you are finished talking, type RET twice.
I'll believe it when Linux has a 125 million user base.
I submit to you that linux already has a > 125 million user base. Just because it's not as a desktop operating system doesn't mean that it's not being used.
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I'm pretty sure it's based on 7.2 PRE, not 7.1. The summary also makes it look like the software manager is a new feature, which it is not. The PBI system has been around for a while in PC-BSD.
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I dunno, I think there are enough script kiddie contests. I want to see more real hacker contests - like where the winner actually finds a new exploit, or even one where the winner fixes an exploit and provides a patch.
Even though you're whining, you know that 95% of the time, it is the system drive on a windows machine. If you're working tech support, and someone comes up and tells you their c: just exploded, then you're going to know what they mean. And don't even try to argue that you think it's a floppy drive, that's just plain silly. Who even uses those anymore?
Whether or not C: is always the system partition or not is irrelevant to my point. I was just pointing out the benefits of the "UNIX way" of naming and using block devices. Like I said, /dev/hda3 tells me it's the 3rd partition on the first (drive 0) drive in the system, and that it's most likely IDE. C: tells me nothing of the sort, just like D: or E: or Z: or AAAA:. The "Windows way" also lacks quick and easy ways to directly access the block device, just as it lacks quick and easy ways to mount any device at any point in the directory hierarchy.
What's wrong with good ole c:? Whenever you read it, you know exactly what the person is talking about. If you go with hda3 or somesuch, you're not going to know if you're talking about a swap file or what have you. Linux is unnecessarily complicated on this point. I've gone through hell trying to get my flash drive working on different linux machines at work because they aren't set up to mount sda volumes or somesuch. Then I couldn't fix the problem because the only guy who knew the su password was out of town. Went home early that day -- so I guess it wasn't all bad. /dev/hda3? Why that's the 3rd partition on the first hard drive in the system, of course.
What's wrong with C:? What is C:? What is E:? Is it a mapped drive? Is it a floppy? CD-ROM? Is it my USB keyring? C: isn't always the system drive on your Windows machine - I've had systems that for whatever reason had the G: or D: drive as the system drive. What do you mean C: isn't actually the drive itself? What do I do if I need to access the block device directly? What do you mean...
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Hammer on my piglet, I'd
Collect the seven dollars and I'd
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Everybody wants prosthetic
Foreheads on their real heads
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No, but after my wife read that comment I might as well be. :wq!
I guess it's all a matter of preference. Right now my glibc is washing the dishes, which is great since my wife won't. However, in some other house they might want glibc to stay the hell out of the kitchen.
None of the sissy GUI installs.
You mean you had to learn how your computer worked to make it work?
Come on - you gotta admit it's so much easier to pop a shiny disc thing into the box, hit the button, and have it do its thing so that you can get right to posting on the Ubuntu forums to complain about having to type "sudo" before you want to do something in that annoying little "terminal" window that they should work on getting rid of asap.
...or even when the kernel wouldn't even self host and you still needed a running minix system...Kids these days don't know how good they have it.
Whippersnappers sans bootstrappers. Shameful.
Why... in my day my old man would smack me with an oak limb if I forgot to sync the filesystem three times before shutting down.
We rarely run at full CPU Heat kicking.
That's the 2nd time I've heard that this month.
"Many Ubuntu users, including me, have noticed that the latency of desktop operations got significantly larger around the time Gutsy was released, which coincides with the Completely Fair Scheduler and kernel upgrade from 2.6.18."
Uhh.. I didn't see anything in there about the Complete Fair Queuing - you just mentioned Completely Fair Scheduler, then kernel 2.6.18.
"Feisty had the 2.6.18 kernel and was quite responsive, so CFQ is in the clear. Gutsy featured 2.6.23 with CFS and was much slower which means it is a possible suspect."
This performance bug has been reported since 2.6.18.
CFS was introduced in 2.6.23, not 2.6.18. CFQ was introduced in 2.6.18.
This I/O scheduler was introduced as the default in 2.6.18 and available since 2.6.13. I wonder if that has something to do with it. I'm going to test it out on my home machines later today and have a look-see.
Supposedly it can be disabled and the AS scheduler can be used if you change it at runtime in /sys/block/hda/queue/scheduler, or use the "elevator=as" boot option.
And when you get your annual renewal feature key - you'll go to type it in and submit it but it won't be able to authenticate the license key. So, you'll have to call SonicWall for a 100-character manual license key and sit on hold for forever listening to that damned SonicWall hold music.
Now I've got it stuck in my head.
Ta ta ta ta... ta ta ta ta... doo doo dee dooo dee doooo dee dooo... ta ta ta ta... ta ta ta ta... doo doo dee dooo dee doooo dee dooo... ta ta ta ta... ta ta ta ta...
Knowing SonicWall, this will be a feature in next years product line - except it will only "work" between other SonicWall products. It won't actually do anything, but they'll claim that it does - yet they won't provide any technical details (let alone source code) on the inner workings.
Is that anything like the Corneyed Lumpfish that frequent my septic pool?
Whatever. Tim the Enchanter was a mangy scotch git, and he wasn't weird - was he?
Well... then if it DOES blow up in the next couple of days it'll all be YOUR fault that I stopped packing for Australia.
I'm curious to see if he stops wearing the red hat all the time and starts wearing something like a Stetson with "Intel Inside" embroidered on it.
Unfortunately there's no way to verify reading comprehension prior to comment submittal.
Except, it doesn't smoke any Intel Quad, at all.
Actually, it does. The i7 way outperforms the Phenoms - but I'm talking the old "Core" quad line.
You see, with the i7's - Intel actually got around to doing it right: true monolithic cores, and integrated memory controllers. AMD has been doing this for a while now. When you look at overall performance including memory access and peripheral/bus access - the Phenoms were ahead of the old Intel quads (which were just hacked-together dual core CPUs).
Unless you were comparing your OC'ed CPU to a stock Intel
I was.
It's kinda sad to see AMD's latest best offering that's 2 months old barely managing to compete with a 2 year old chip...
It's kind of sad to see a giant such as Intel following in AMD's architectural footsteps. Like I and others have said: "Intel works harder, AMD works smarter"
You can get a good AM2+ motherboard for under $100. DDR2 is cheap, and the price point for these CPUS is looking pretty good.
My primary home machine is an AM2+ Phenom 9950 BE overclocked to 3.0GHz. The Phenoms are easily overclocked using stock cooling - I spent only $900 on this machine including a 9800 GTX GPU, 2GHz 1066mhz RAM, and a WD Raptor HDD - and this box hauls ass. It easily smokes most Intel quad boxes I've seen that cost several hundred more.
I'll always run Intel on servers and what not - but for a workstation/desktop you can't go wrong with AMD. Hell, now that I think about it - I've had more stability problems with Intel than I've had with AMD. I guess it's time to re-think my server platforms.
I have cell phones and wireless access points (which I keep FAR away from my pregnant wife and will keep away from the young man), I DEFINITELY deny using a microwave oven unless absolutely unavoidable (once a month?). No I do not have air purifiers and spray "kill 99% germs" shit all around the house, and better have my kids play with my dogs' shit other than operate a microwave oven, I think that wireless power is something I definitely something I want to keep away from: young souls, pregnant women and my testicles.
I am the psychotherapist. Please, describe your problems. Each time you are finished talking, type RET twice.
I'll believe it when Linux has a 125 million user base.
I submit to you that linux already has a > 125 million user base. Just because it's not as a desktop operating system doesn't mean that it's not being used.