I have a couple of friends I do computer support for...all women.
Wasn't always that way. I got _really_ tired of my know-it-all-but-haven't-got-a-clue male friends assuming they knew better than I what was up with their system and how to fix it...resulting in bigger problems and more time to fix. And they NEVER ask before breaking something...Gee what does _this_ do?
In my experience, when a Woman doesn't know, she usually asks and is happy to get an answer.
Guys rarely ask, and when they do, they even less often actually hear the response.
Get off your high horses people (not just you, all the posters along this vein).
Look, what are you waiting for in the next release of SQLServer? Anything? Nope...didn't think so. You HAVE a rock-solid DB solution from MS right now, so who cares if the next release from MS is late, especially when it represents a fundamental change, and thus nothing you're doing _right now_ will suffer if it's not out next week will it?
Damned, the only thing I know of that's being worked on that requires this to be released is WinFS, which will be released in Longhorn when? A couple more years you say?
Besides, when was the last time your OSS project of choice went gold on time? And no, not having release deadlines doesn't count.
Actually, MS has had this built into windows, and used, since at LEAST 3.1.
Every time you've logged onto windows, the logon screen was displayed to you on a "virtual desktop". Upon successful logon, you're switched immediately to your "Active Desctop", or the actual desktop you know and love.
Just because this feature wasn't exposed directly to the user doesn't mean that it doesn't, or didn't exist.
So, at this point, I really have no idea who did this first, and I can't find info on when MS _did_ actually first implement virtual desktops.
Remember the Quake3 Demo? It performed _way_ better than the initial release. I was very PO'd when I bought the game when it was actually released and my framerate dropped in half from what I was getting in the Demo. Totally soured me on that game, never really did get into it much after that. The problems were addressed in subsequent patches...but I vowed I'll NEVER buy another ID game without seeing the actual release version in action first.
If you do a good demo, the game sure as hell had better meet or exceed the expectations that the demo instills in you!
FUD. None of those things were stated, nor even implied. There is no condemnation of MS in that article, just observance of possible real-world issues that _could_ be addressed in this way.
Linux was advocated NOWHERE in there.
I'm more annoyed at whomever actually modded this funny.
True, but in my experience it's not such a big deal spending on good quality monitors as they will typically be useful for the lifespan of a _few_ computers.
I've got 2 Samsung 17" Syncmaster 173T monitors which just recently replaced 2 17" ViewSonic's that I had used for 5 years previously. I expect to use my new ones for at least 5 years as well. And that's just as use as my primary monitors on my main machine at work. My old viewsonics are now very happy at home, and will probably be happy there for _another_ 5 years or more.
I would NEVER suggest that stuff written under MS's.NET IDE would be portable to other platforms...it's just never going to happen.
I think the author missed the point of Mono entirely though. Their goal isn't really to provide a platform that apps developed in MS VStudio.NET will just work on, pretty much an impossible goal.
However, VStudio.NET is NOT.NET, and is NOT C#. It's just an IDE.
If it ends up such that I can hand-code C# in notepad, using the standards for the language and platform only, and it'll run on MS's runtime platform as well as Mono platforms, well, that's just awesome. It will likely never quite work to the native gui level, but for server apps, web apps and the like, that would open up a LOT of possibilities.
Which would essentially bring it in line with java's current state: Quite good portability for server/web apps, pretty piss poor for client apps.
Choice is good. And given the choice (and having coded alot in both), I personally much prefer C# over java-depends on the job though of course;)
I've wondered the exact same thing! I recently purchased 2 samsung SyncMaster 173T 17" monitors, which are 1280x1024, which is good, but I was _really_ looking for something around 1600x1280. They exist, but really for 21" and greater, and really break the bank.
Shortly thereafter we had a coop student start here and he had a dell laptop that did 1920x1200, and I was like WTF? I really don't get it...kicks ass over my samsungs for the most part. (Viewing angle is not as good, brightness and contrast not quite as good, but for a freaking LAPTOP?)
Yes, very sarcastic indeed. I do know that there are many solitaire programs available for many platforms, as well as minesweeper et al.
I was more alluding to the, entirely amusing and highly ironic (Or should that be moronic) fact that solitaire in Win3.1 was highly responsible for it's adoptation by home users.
I don't believe I've advocated anything in my posts...I was continuing a thought process.
Actually, the very fact that we live in a binary world kinda makes your post redundant, we ended up here for a reason. However, does that mean we are not allowed to think outside of this paradigm? Can we not discuss things like this? Or shall we stay confined to our little box at all times?
I have already conceeded MANY times in this thread that java _can_ be very portable. Especially ServerSide java. That pretty much totally falls apart on the client.
I'm going to ask you to 'cut the crap' as well. Comparing the portability of ServerSide java to the entire.NET platform doesn't make any sense whatsoever.
Java isn't a silver fucking bullet..NET isn't a silver fucking bullet. Why does everyone have to be so god damned absolutist? Can there not be the right tool for the job? And how many fucking times do I have to say this before you get it people? I am not condemning Java in any way, I'm not zealoting for.NET in any way, so why the hell are people assuming I am?
I believe I've read that conclusion before as well.
If my memory serves me correct, there was a bit of a race between the merits of binary vs ternary computing way, _way_ back in the day, and the conclusion was then that yes, there were a few cases where it could be useful, but everything you could do with ternary, you can make work with binary in some way...and it was a heck of a lot easier to build hardware that was only on/off than it was to build hardware that was multi-state.
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I totally agree, and will take that one farther.
I have a couple of friends I do computer support for...all women.
Wasn't always that way.
I got _really_ tired of my know-it-all-but-haven't-got-a-clue male friends assuming they knew better than I what was up with their system and how to fix it...resulting in bigger problems and more time to fix. And they NEVER ask before breaking something...Gee what does _this_ do?
In my experience, when a Woman doesn't know, she usually asks and is happy to get an answer.
Guys rarely ask, and when they do, they even less often actually hear the response.
Get off your high horses people (not just you, all the posters along this vein).
Look, what are you waiting for in the next release of SQLServer? Anything? Nope...didn't think so.
You HAVE a rock-solid DB solution from MS right now, so who cares if the next release from MS is late, especially when it represents a fundamental change, and thus nothing you're doing _right now_ will suffer if it's not out next week will it?
Damned, the only thing I know of that's being worked on that requires this to be released is WinFS, which will be released in Longhorn when? A couple more years you say?
Besides, when was the last time your OSS project of choice went gold on time? And no, not having release deadlines doesn't count.
Since when does the UN give a flying fuck about environmental concerns?
If that had been modded funny it would be closer to the truth.
No?
;)
Well then, I've got a TV I'll sell you for $6000, I'll even stick a mirror on it if you like
Just remember, if you buy it, it won't suck because you paid $6000 for it.
Actually, MS has had this built into windows, and used, since at LEAST 3.1.
Every time you've logged onto windows, the logon screen was displayed to you on a "virtual desktop".
Upon successful logon, you're switched immediately to your "Active Desctop", or the actual desktop you know and love.
Just because this feature wasn't exposed directly to the user doesn't mean that it doesn't, or didn't exist.
So, at this point, I really have no idea who did this first, and I can't find info on when MS _did_ actually first implement virtual desktops.
They may be right.
And then all of the people who had money, who now don't have jobs, have no money to spend on their drugs...(or whatever else they would normally buy)
Stating the obvious I know, but here goes anyways!
It's a laptop dude.
Remember the Quake3 Demo?
It performed _way_ better than the initial release.
I was very PO'd when I bought the game when it was actually released and my framerate dropped in half from what I was getting in the Demo. Totally soured me on that game, never really did get into it much after that. The problems were addressed in subsequent patches...but I vowed I'll NEVER buy another ID game without seeing the actual release version in action first.
If you do a good demo, the game sure as hell had better meet or exceed the expectations that the demo instills in you!
No shit.
But are they going to train you on the latest multi-million dollar aircraft by throwing you behind the cockpit?
You've got your 4 year old daughter fragging in quake already? Sheesh, don't want to get into that conversation...lets leave it for another day ;)
How do you suppose most military training is done these days?
There most certainly is skill involved, and it most certainly can be applied to 'something real'.
FUD.
None of those things were stated, nor even implied. There is no condemnation of MS in that article, just observance of possible real-world issues that _could_ be addressed in this way.
Linux was advocated NOWHERE in there.
I'm more annoyed at whomever actually modded this funny.
Read the post he was responding to and you just might get it.
True, but in my experience it's not such a big deal spending on good quality monitors as they will typically be useful for the lifespan of a _few_ computers.
I've got 2 Samsung 17" Syncmaster 173T monitors which just recently replaced 2 17" ViewSonic's that I had used for 5 years previously. I expect to use my new ones for at least 5 years as well. And that's just as use as my primary monitors on my main machine at work. My old viewsonics are now very happy at home, and will probably be happy there for _another_ 5 years or more.
Is that a challenge ? ;)
You wouldn't bet on what? Are you on crack?
Read my post you replied to again, and then read your reply.
Now can you explain to me what the fuck you're talking about, in that context?
I would NEVER suggest that stuff written under MS's .NET IDE would be portable to other platforms...it's just never going to happen.
.NET, and is NOT C#.
;)
I think the author missed the point of Mono entirely though. Their goal isn't really to provide a platform that apps developed in MS VStudio.NET will just work on, pretty much an impossible goal.
However, VStudio.NET is NOT
It's just an IDE.
If it ends up such that I can hand-code C# in notepad, using the standards for the language and platform only, and it'll run on MS's runtime platform as well as Mono platforms, well, that's just awesome. It will likely never quite work to the native gui level, but for server apps, web apps and the like, that would open up a LOT of possibilities.
Which would essentially bring it in line with java's current state: Quite good portability for server/web apps, pretty piss poor for client apps.
Choice is good. And given the choice (and having coded alot in both), I personally much prefer C# over java-depends on the job though of course
Hey, you stole that from me, I wrote that like a week after I got my sinclair. Quit hacking my TS2000 man!
I've wondered the exact same thing!
I recently purchased 2 samsung SyncMaster 173T 17" monitors, which are 1280x1024, which is good, but I was _really_ looking for something around 1600x1280.
They exist, but really for 21" and greater, and really break the bank.
Shortly thereafter we had a coop student start here and he had a dell laptop that did 1920x1200, and I was like WTF? I really don't get it...kicks ass over my samsungs for the most part. (Viewing angle is not as good, brightness and contrast not quite as good, but for a freaking LAPTOP?)
No, I don't get it at all.
Yes, very sarcastic indeed.
I do know that there are many solitaire programs available for many platforms, as well as minesweeper et al.
I was more alluding to the, entirely amusing and highly ironic (Or should that be moronic) fact that solitaire in Win3.1 was highly responsible for it's adoptation by home users.
I don't believe I've advocated anything in my posts...I was continuing a thought process.
Actually, the very fact that we live in a binary world kinda makes your post redundant, we ended up here for a reason. However, does that mean we are not allowed to think outside of this paradigm? Can we not discuss things like this? Or shall we stay confined to our little box at all times?
I have already conceeded MANY times in this thread that java _can_ be very portable. Especially ServerSide java. That pretty much totally falls apart on the client.
.NET platform doesn't make any sense whatsoever.
.NET isn't a silver fucking bullet. Why does everyone have to be so god damned absolutist? Can there not be the right tool for the job? And how many fucking times do I have to say this before you get it people? .NET in any way, so why the hell are people assuming I am?
I'm going to ask you to 'cut the crap' as well.
Comparing the portability of ServerSide java to the entire
Java isn't a silver fucking bullet.
I am not condemning Java in any way, I'm not zealoting for
I believe I've read that conclusion before as well.
If my memory serves me correct, there was a bit of a race between the merits of binary vs ternary computing way, _way_ back in the day, and the conclusion was then that yes, there were a few cases where it could be useful, but everything you could do with ternary, you can make work with binary in some way...and it was a heck of a lot easier to build hardware that was only on/off than it was to build hardware that was multi-state.
Sorry, I thought I mentioned that option, but it wasn't really clear I guess.
tx
Will it run on my Timex Sinclair 2000?
Man, I've been waiting _years_ for a new game to come out for that!