Seriously people--what game are you playing? There is no economy in WoW once a server reaches even just adolescence.
Epics go for hundreds of gold while their similar rare counterparts sell for 20%. Medium or heavy leather doesn't even sell. The market is totally saturated.
Just enjoy the game and don't worry about this kind of crap. Blizzard isn't going to roll anything back--they know from previous MMORPGs that controlling an economy is a feeble effort at best. You can't create a fair environment when the players aren't on level ground, and they're not trying to make it fair. They're just trying to make it fun for both casual and hardcore gamers. A rollback is not going to help that purpose and it's not in their best interest.
Actually I went through several MS and Logitech wireless products just four-five weeks ago only to find that they just weren't getting the job done. I'm actually kind of surprised that so many people are having a positive experience with these products. After having been so frustrated, I did some reading of reviews online and many people were experiencing the same range difficulties as me. I was literally fuming by the time I took the third product back and went home with Gyration gear, thinking this was my last hope and frankly I wasn't putting much faith in wireless at all by this point. I was very pleasantly surprised to find how well the Gyration gear really works. I can literally control my mouse on my TV from the kitchen 20 feet away without a hitch or hiccup. That's what I'm talkin' about.
If you need a wireless product that distances more than 3 feet and/or works through walls, just forget a Logitech solution with these products altogether.
Having run the gauntlet on nearly all wireless peripherals, just shell out the money for a Gyration product. In all honesty, these Logitech and MS wireless products are crap. They don't even really operate properly within the 6(ish) feet of range they specify.
I didn't find anything funny about what this guy is saying. He's absolutely right. Not that I'm against the creation of violent video games, but I'll be damned if I'm going to let my kids play a game like Quake until I feel like they're old enough to understand that it's just a game.
I remember back in the day, someone (let's say my dad, for sake of example;) and his friends, in spirit of the same concept of "free cable", tried to copy those things and sell em on the Nintendo Black Market (hoho). Turns out, it's pretty expensive to do unless you're going to manufacture them in mass quantities. They couldn't turn enough of a profit for it to be worth their time. So... you can probly do it, but you'd probly be better off just feeding a video out to your family room TV.:)
In regards to getting people to buy things that only work with other things by the same manufacturer... well, I hate to beat a dead horse but...it worked for Microsoft, right?;)
It's also been my experience that talented programmers are few and far between. Lots of people I know in school now sift through the Internet looking for code that works, and modify it accordingly to suit their needs.
Now I'm not saying MANY people do this... what I am saying is that there's an awful lot of people in this computer science field that have no business being here. And as we all know, most of the good ones are already working in the field by the time they graduate. Therefore, by looking to find good, inexpensive programmers from a graduating crop that has already for the most part been picked clean is like going to the bar at 1 AM looking for classy, beautiful women. Sure, every once in a while you may find one--but that happens what, once in a life time?
I think everyone is making a much bigger deal out of this than it really is. So they decided to layer two scenes together and add a silly little lens flare--big whoop.
When you purchase a box of corn flakes, do you care that Kelloggs went through 300 boxes of flakes to find 50 perfect ones for the picture? And do you care that the milk is really Elmer's Glue? No, you don't. And will you really care if Brett Favre has a Type 3 or Type 2 anti-aliased head in Madden 200x? No, you won't.
This is just creative advertising. If Microsoft was trying to seriously dupe the public, then they wouldn't have actual video of Amped on the Xbox website. They haven't done anything out of the ordinary here, folks. Advertisers have been doing this very thing for years.
I swear, I start to feel dumber each time I search for a key on freenet, and I have to wait a half hour for the results. I can personally guarantee that freenet will be vaporware until it becomes as fast as the www.
"We have a market of very confused customers and observers."
My butt. What we have is a market full of technophobic, ignorant baby boomers. Just because it's not intuitive to a 50 year old marketing manager doesn't mean it's not intuitive to a 10 year old.
Most Gen X people (and ALL generation-whatever-they-are kids) find the Windows GUI, for example, to be very intuitive and very simple. Hell, my 5 year old cousin flies around my PC. Screw the baby boomers and the engineers that are blowing them. In 10 years, you won't see these arguments anymore.
Look, I'm as big of an advocate for open source as the next guy, but I'm sick of hearing people complain about Microsoft and their intellectual property. Why? Because it's a company that spends billions of dollars on creating products, and that gives them every right to hide their source and distribute their products how they see fit.
Just because you pay for a product doesn't give you the right to the knowledge of how it was built. When you buy a car, do you get a set of blueprints? When you go to McDonald's, do they give you the recipe for the secret sauce? When you order telephone service, does that give you the right to use the phone line for whatever you see fit? Of course not. And just because you bought Windows doesn't mean you have the right to the source code.
Further, Microsoft's attempts to squash open source software are futile. There is so much legislation that goes through congress all the time that's utterly mad and gets rejected, as will this. Therefore, it makes no sense to attack the other side with the same fury as your opponent. Declaring that closed source software is evil in retaliation that open source is evil is equally as retarded. Both models have their strengths and weaknesses, but that should be left for later discussion.
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OH NOES teh economy is rooined!!!11
Seriously people--what game are you playing? There is no economy in WoW once a server reaches even just adolescence.
Epics go for hundreds of gold while their similar rare counterparts sell for 20%. Medium or heavy leather doesn't even sell. The market is totally saturated.
Just enjoy the game and don't worry about this kind of crap. Blizzard isn't going to roll anything back--they know from previous MMORPGs that controlling an economy is a feeble effort at best. You can't create a fair environment when the players aren't on level ground, and they're not trying to make it fair. They're just trying to make it fun for both casual and hardcore gamers. A rollback is not going to help that purpose and it's not in their best interest.
Seven! Seven's the key!
Something is lacking at Homeland Security???
Say it ain't so!
Actually I went through several MS and Logitech wireless products just four-five weeks ago only to find that they just weren't getting the job done. I'm actually kind of surprised that so many people are having a positive experience with these products. After having been so frustrated, I did some reading of reviews online and many people were experiencing the same range difficulties as me. I was literally fuming by the time I took the third product back and went home with Gyration gear, thinking this was my last hope and frankly I wasn't putting much faith in wireless at all by this point. I was very pleasantly surprised to find how well the Gyration gear really works. I can literally control my mouse on my TV from the kitchen 20 feet away without a hitch or hiccup. That's what I'm talkin' about.
If you need a wireless product that distances more than 3 feet and/or works through walls, just forget a Logitech solution with these products altogether.
Having run the gauntlet on nearly all wireless peripherals, just shell out the money for a Gyration product. In all honesty, these Logitech and MS wireless products are crap. They don't even really operate properly within the 6(ish) feet of range they specify.
What position are you taking on this then?
I didn't find anything funny about what this guy is saying. He's absolutely right. Not that I'm against the creation of violent video games, but I'll be damned if I'm going to let my kids play a game like Quake until I feel like they're old enough to understand that it's just a game.
I remember back in the day, someone (let's say my dad, for sake of example ;) and his friends, in spirit of the same concept of "free cable", tried to copy those things and sell em on the Nintendo Black Market (hoho). Turns out, it's pretty expensive to do unless you're going to manufacture them in mass quantities. They couldn't turn enough of a profit for it to be worth their time. So... you can probly do it, but you'd probly be better off just feeding a video out to your family room TV. :)
I've had the game since the release date and I haven't crashed a single time...
I was more thinking of a just a 3d render of the Admiral giving me the missions :)
Will I be able to get my X-Wing missions on this thing?
In regards to getting people to buy things that only work with other things by the same manufacturer... well, I hate to beat a dead horse but...it worked for Microsoft, right? ;)
Now I'm not saying MANY people do this... what I am saying is that there's an awful lot of people in this computer science field that have no business being here. And as we all know, most of the good ones are already working in the field by the time they graduate. Therefore, by looking to find good, inexpensive programmers from a graduating crop that has already for the most part been picked clean is like going to the bar at 1 AM looking for classy, beautiful women. Sure, every once in a while you may find one--but that happens what, once in a life time?
When you purchase a box of corn flakes, do you care that Kelloggs went through 300 boxes of flakes to find 50 perfect ones for the picture? And do you care that the milk is really Elmer's Glue? No, you don't. And will you really care if Brett Favre has a Type 3 or Type 2 anti-aliased head in Madden 200x? No, you won't.
This is just creative advertising. If Microsoft was trying to seriously dupe the public, then they wouldn't have actual video of Amped on the Xbox website. They haven't done anything out of the ordinary here, folks. Advertisers have been doing this very thing for years.
I swear, I start to feel dumber each time I search for a key on freenet, and I have to wait a half hour for the results. I can personally guarantee that freenet will be vaporware until it becomes as fast as the www.
My butt. What we have is a market full of technophobic, ignorant baby boomers. Just because it's not intuitive to a 50 year old marketing manager doesn't mean it's not intuitive to a 10 year old.
Most Gen X people (and ALL generation-whatever-they-are kids) find the Windows GUI, for example, to be very intuitive and very simple. Hell, my 5 year old cousin flies around my PC. Screw the baby boomers and the engineers that are blowing them. In 10 years, you won't see these arguments anymore.
I want a big, horkin' "You Hoser" sign on Eros.
It's like a poor man's VR file manager. Now they can make a Lawnmower Man text adventure.
Visit beautiful Kingston, the gateway to Hell and insanity.
Look, I'm as big of an advocate for open source as the next guy, but I'm sick of hearing people complain about Microsoft and their intellectual property. Why? Because it's a company that spends billions of dollars on creating products, and that gives them every right to hide their source and distribute their products how they see fit. Just because you pay for a product doesn't give you the right to the knowledge of how it was built. When you buy a car, do you get a set of blueprints? When you go to McDonald's, do they give you the recipe for the secret sauce? When you order telephone service, does that give you the right to use the phone line for whatever you see fit? Of course not. And just because you bought Windows doesn't mean you have the right to the source code. Further, Microsoft's attempts to squash open source software are futile. There is so much legislation that goes through congress all the time that's utterly mad and gets rejected, as will this. Therefore, it makes no sense to attack the other side with the same fury as your opponent. Declaring that closed source software is evil in retaliation that open source is evil is equally as retarded. Both models have their strengths and weaknesses, but that should be left for later discussion. Out.
I happen to think this is a good idea... just another step towards automated cars. Having to drive is going to be a thing of the past eventually!