In the way I read the article the author meant that the "open source" philosophy and not the products were successful. And the fact that developers can now make their lives only conding open source software (be it midnight command, Linux or apache) is a very good sign that the idea of open source is working and has given another step into a wider acceptabilility (is this a word?).
-- "take the red pill and you stay in wonderland and I'll show you how deep the rabitt hole goes"
I'm sorry but I have to disagree with you. Since the client is distribuited one can never be 100% sure that the results from one client are created by the same manner, even if the source is closed. Reverse engenering is possible and all one has to do is to figure out the exact protocol and packet format that the client uses (this could be hard, or not). Once this is done, one could create another client from the ground that could create valid or not packets.
Other cientists would not pay atention to results from clients on the internet. A result like that could only be accepted with results made with original data and with in-house computers. The seti@home just help to point out witch parts of the data the project manager should look at. This way even if a false packet is sended to seti@home they can be shure that a signal is real or not (analising their data, with their computer, and their software).
I don't know how much "damage" an open source client would make to the project it self, and I don't want to enter this "war". One thing is certain protocols can be hacked, and with closed source is usualy more easy to do it.
-- "take the red pill and you stay in wonderland and I'll show you how deep the rabitt hole goes"
In my opinion this kind of move is frutile. Of course the persecuting the people who get involveld in de-css publicly will get them headlines but nothing more. The de-css will live on and probably secretly by the one who want to make money out of it (ilegal copy industry). I don't see why this act will stop them, it delays the creation of oss players for linux because the authors must be known (the users of this software would probably buy their IP and not copy them).
I hope that the industry of copied DVDs gets realy big realy soon so the big companies start paying attention on who is actualy stealing their IP.
-- "take the red pill and you stay in wonderland and I'll show you how deep the rabitt hole goes"
Now that soon I will have 3d games under linux with acceleration that will only leave my scanner to get suport under linux so I could erase windows forever.
Any one here know where the rage pro opengl will be developed? I want to follow this closely.
:-):-):-):-):-):-):-):-) -- "take the red pill and you stay in wonderland and I'll show you how deep the rabitt hole goes"
Well just remember that there are life forms living today that are almost exactly like they were thousands of years ago. Evolution dosen't necessary kills every one that dosen't change. It just kills the ones that are not fit in the current enviroment.
Business should have a anology, I mean you could run your business for two towsand year without changing it, it only needs to "fit" well in every possible market and situation. If door to door sales are working, and it should be since you're saying that they still do it, why stop? What makes it obsolet?
-- "take the red pill and you stay in wonderland and I'll show you how deep the rabitt hole goes"
I belive that there are realy few programs that work only on linux. Most of linux programs are open source, and run easily on almost every UNIX variant available. There are even a few that works on win32 like gimp (that has a decent win32 version)
And the fact that companies have to do a linux version would be a bless to those other osses out there since linux is very diferent from windows, so if a program has been port to linux it is probably well designed enougth to create another ports. A compatibility layer beetwen linux and other OSes (as I belive exists in BSD) is very easy to do, since linux is opensource and has a well defined API. -- "take the red pill and you stay in wonderland and I'll show you how deep the rabitt hole goes"
CSS were created by IE and we (at least I do) blame netscape of not compling with the W3 standard. By the way I do blame IE for not compling with it too.
Mozilla, if it ever gets done, will be the most standard web browser available. I am shure hope that it goes out soon enougth.
-- "take the red pill and you stay in wonderland and I'll show you how deep the rabitt hole goes"
This scheme would be even safer then a backup key.
One could argue that if someone steals one piece of the key, this person would be able to eliminate all keys that don't have that piece from a brute force atack. To solve this, the key owner could create a simetric key to encript the backup key divide it and store it in pieces with the backup key, by doing this it makes harder for a person who steals one piece of the key to get info about the final key. Only when one steals all the pieces he would have the key to decript the backup key.
Since kripto-keys are basicly random numbers a force brute trying to decript onr piece of it would be useless, since the atacker won't have a way to check if the key is decriptet or not.
-- "take the red pill and you stay in wonderland and I'll show you how deep the rabitt hole goes"
I guess that the diference between your example is that the equations that are used to explaing the experiments that you listed are rather basic ones. As I understood the curve explained by the article is very complicated and would make sence that it would explain well just one specific experiment. But it did explained a lot more then expected, actualy it turn out the it could be a basic curve as well.
-- "take the red pill and you stay in wonderland and I'll show you how deep the rabitt hole goes"
I would just like to add that if the article is good enouth to pop in/. a second time, it is actualy good to it reapear since many people didn't seen it in the first time (the one that posted it the second time surely didn't). When the article recour it gives those people that lost the first apperance to see it. -- "take the red pill and you stay in wonderland and I'll show you how deep the rabitt hole goes"
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The simple fact that a person writen/recorded or created a news piece means that this news piece is biased by that person's point view. The most he can do is try to be unbiased. Unbiased jornalism is like a phisic problem where you ignore the friction to make things easy. And don't even think that you can get as close as you want to "unbiased".
In fact most of the time news agencies are realy biased, they have advertisers that they can't piss-off. They usualy have a editorial-line that they follow so they are usualy very-very biased.
All that said, I would like to add that slashdot-like news is the closer you can get to unbiased news. Still a biased (just look at MS discussions and you will see the bias flowing) source but at least you have thousand of diferent biases.
Well of course this is biased by my opinion that love slashdot.
-- "take the red pill and you stay in wonderland and I'll show you how deep the rabitt hole goes"
- I just wish that Mozilla don't lockup every window when trying to resolve a name.
- I just wish that wouldn't take 2 minutes to start and then just for fun two more minutes trying to resolve the names from the news and mail server (it don't even have a composer window open yet).
and yes I do have a nameserver sonfigured, but it's no use when the net is down and you want to use it in you personmal intranet. -- "take the red pill and you stay in wonderland and I'll show you how deep the rabitt hole goes"
Yes I know that ICQ is from AOL too, but at least it's not directly involved with this mess.
To me we should create a instant messaging protocol that would be secure (If I didn't gave permission to someone then someone can't have acess to my status), distribuited (why have only one server?), open source, multi-plataform (this shold be usable for mac, windows and all other OSes users too).
I think that it's rather easy to create it using existent protocols, HTTP for files and messages and irc for chat.
Is there something like this being developed? -- "take the red pill and you stay in wonderland and I'll show you how deep the rabitt hole goes"
This is a hard subject, I don't think two diferent person agree in what exactly is art. So I will give my opinion. Art for me is more about emotions then only beauty. Code can be beautifull in a sense, but they hardly make the watcher fell something (unless the watcher is the coder, and the code won't work no matter what). -- "take the red pill and you stay in wonderland and I'll show you how deep the rabitt hole goes"
Here in Brasil crypto is not ilegal, in fact as far as I know there are no laws against using, exporting or importing them.
But this don't make anything better, because in Brasil we use mainly US made applications witch means that most of our software is restricted to US laws of export. Off course that inteligent people can use GNU tools but most of the population just sticks to windows.
Other problem is that no one realy cares for crypto or privacy, as I stated before (in other post) we already have a unique ID for all citzens (not that is realy a trheat because the Brasil's goverment is very messy so I don't think they would be able to track everyone), and people here are more or less careless about their rigths. It's common for instance to give up a right so you don't have to create a mess.
So the situation here is that we can use it, but we don't actualy use it. -- "take the red pill and you stay in wonderland and I'll show you how deep the rabitt hole goes"
I must say that I am sorry to hear this. Shure Linus is no more then an average guy, as I belive he himself would tell you. But what realy matters is what he represents not what he actualy is. Linus represents a revolution in the way software is made and distruibuted. (yes I know that free-software did exist before linux and linus, but that is not the point)
Many, if not all of the other name are also icons that represent some event or ideology, shure some of the names realy made something big and some others didn't. But what realy matter is what they represent.
Linus today is the most recognized icon to free software and this is good to the cause. Icons helps people to focus the feelings they have about something (what do you hate, propietary software or Microsoft/Bill Gates?). I belive that when someone says "The hell with linus" what people would hear is actualy "The hell with open source/linux/free software", and this is not good.
I would ratter say Linus Rules -- "take the red pill and you stay in wonderland and I'll show you how deep the rabitt hole goes"
Just like to remember that the tinkerability and accessability of linux would also make it easy for a service provider to add/remove features at request just by sending packages (rpm, deb, tgz or what ever) via ftp to the box. This packages could be signed, making it secure. I think this would be a lot harder (but not impossible) to implement in a closed windows environment.
-- "take the red pill and you stay in wonderland and I'll show you how deep the rabitt hole goes"
I agree with you this is not censorship, but it is defamation (is this a word?). In the act of blocking you site CyberPatrol is acusing you of having porn in your site, witch is a lie. The headhunter could thougth that the candidate did in fact have porn in his resumee and just forget about the candidate, instead he sent an email but this could happen.
-- "take the red pill and you stay in wonderland and I'll show you how deep the rabitt hole goes"
I don't know who moderated that message, but I think it should be labeled interesting or insightfull, most certanly not funny. The AC obove is compleatly correct. Well maybe not all parents actualy want to see the porn for them selves, but talking is the better way to convince them they should not look for porn in the net.
It's very easy to counter a blocking software, you simply access the porn from a friend's home or create a linux partition (I doubt most daddys won't be able to find that). The probition is actualy an incentive, the most hardly you say no, the most the you son you want to access it.
-- "take the red pill and you stay in wonderland and I'll show you how deep the rabitt hole goes"
You didn't got my idea. The computer would choose witch parts would be shown and with part would be hidden (to be revealed with a specific glass) by software.
-- "take the red pill and you stay in wonderland and I'll show you how deep the rabitt hole goes"
This is nice, but it would realy be nice if you could mask the contents of the screen so only part of the screen would be hidden. Now picture this, imagine if you could have n glasses and each would show diferent parts of the screen. This would must certainly would be nice for "hot seat" games, I don't know if it would have any other utilities.:-)
-- "take the red pill and you stay in wonderland and I'll show you how deep the rabitt hole goes"
Here in Brasil we aready have, not one but two "unique" Ids. The "Identity Card" and the "CPF" and for joing even a simple video rental we need to provide them both.
In the identity card we have a finger print and the finger prints are also stored in a central. So we already have a code-bar in our fingers. There is also a black-list of people that had the same check returned more than twice, those people cannot have checks or bank acounts.
-- "take the red pill and you stay in wonderland and I'll show you how deep the rabitt hole goes"
And trust me: you, me, everybody would buy cheaper Intel versions of MacOS if they could. If some company ported a 99% compatible MacOS to Intel and undersold Apple by $1000, Apple would be out of business. Unfortunate, but true.
You seem to be forgetting that people usualy use applications and not OSes. If some company would port mac OS to the intel and give it for free, it would still have no application for it (unless it would emulate the apple processor, but this would be shure much slower then a real mac OS). The macOS clone would have to convince a lot of app makers (including apple itself) to port their apps for intel and maybe giving suport for it, and this is much harder then simply port code.
In my opinion this is the final obstacle to linux and what make OS/2 die. Linux is wining in this area since a lot of apps are realy getting ported.
-- "take the red pill and you stay in wonderland and I'll show you how deep the rabitt hole goes"
once you had to buy one turntable, one radio/amplifier, one K7 player all in separate boxes. Soon 3 in 1 boxes start appearing and now with cd we already have 4 in 1 stereos. It also happend to tv/vcr, some models integrate the two.
But you still can buy every peace in separate. I guess the same will happen to computer. And even the ones with integrated stuff could still be upgradable, simply when you connect a external video/sound/etc board the internal could be turned off.
-- "take the red pill and you stay in wonderland and I'll show you how deep the rabitt hole goes"
If a hacker is only a hacker when another hacker calls him as such then there are no real hackers, since the first hacker is a fraud since no hacker has called him a hacker.
-- "take the red pill and you stay in wonderland and I'll show you how deep the rabitt hole goes"
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In the way I read the article the author meant that the "open source" philosophy and not the products were successful. And the fact that developers can now make their lives only conding open source software (be it midnight command, Linux or apache) is a very good sign that the idea of open source is working and has given another step into a wider acceptabilility (is this a word?).
--
"take the red pill and you stay in wonderland and I'll show you how deep the rabitt hole goes"
I'm sorry but I have to disagree with you. Since the client is distribuited one can never be 100% sure that the results from one client are created by the same manner, even if the source is closed. Reverse engenering is possible and all one has to do is to figure out the exact protocol and packet format that the client uses (this could be hard, or not). Once this is done, one could create another client from the ground that could create valid or not packets.
Other cientists would not pay atention to results from clients on the internet. A result like that could only be accepted with results made with original data and with in-house computers. The seti@home just help to point out witch parts of the data the project manager should look at. This way even if a false packet is sended to seti@home they can be shure that a signal is real or not (analising their data, with their computer, and their software).
I don't know how much "damage" an open source client would make to the project it self, and I don't want to enter this "war". One thing is certain protocols can be hacked, and with closed source is usualy more easy to do it.
--
"take the red pill and you stay in wonderland and I'll show you how deep the rabitt hole goes"
In my opinion this kind of move is frutile. Of course the persecuting the people who get involveld in de-css publicly will get them headlines but nothing more. The de-css will live on and probably secretly by the one who want to make money out of it (ilegal copy industry). I don't see why this act will stop them, it delays the creation of oss players for linux because the authors must be known (the users of this software would probably buy their IP and not copy them).
I hope that the industry of copied DVDs gets realy big realy soon so the big companies start paying attention on who is actualy stealing their IP.
--
"take the red pill and you stay in wonderland and I'll show you how deep the rabitt hole goes"
Now that soon I will have 3d games under linux with acceleration that will only leave my scanner to get suport under linux so I could erase windows forever.
:-) :-) :-) :-) :-) :-) :-) :-)
Any one here know where the rage pro opengl will be developed? I want to follow this closely.
--
"take the red pill and you stay in wonderland and I'll show you how deep the rabitt hole goes"
Well just remember that there are life forms living today that are almost exactly like they were thousands of years ago. Evolution dosen't necessary kills every one that dosen't change. It just kills the ones that are not fit in the current enviroment.
Business should have a anology, I mean you could run your business for two towsand year without changing it, it only needs to "fit" well in every possible market and situation. If door to door sales are working, and it should be since you're saying that they still do it, why stop? What makes it obsolet?
--
"take the red pill and you stay in wonderland and I'll show you how deep the rabitt hole goes"
I belive that there are realy few programs that work only on linux. Most of linux programs are open source, and run easily on almost every UNIX variant available. There are even a few that works on win32 like gimp (that has a decent win32 version)
And the fact that companies have to do a linux version would be a bless to those other osses out there since linux is very diferent from windows, so if a program has been port to linux it is probably well designed enougth to create another ports. A compatibility layer beetwen linux and other OSes (as I belive exists in BSD) is very easy to do, since linux is opensource and has a well defined API.
--
"take the red pill and you stay in wonderland and I'll show you how deep the rabitt hole goes"
CSS were created by IE and we (at least I do) blame netscape of not compling with the W3 standard. By the way I do blame IE for not compling with it too.
Mozilla, if it ever gets done, will be the most standard web browser available. I am shure hope that it goes out soon enougth.
--
"take the red pill and you stay in wonderland and I'll show you how deep the rabitt hole goes"
One could argue that if someone steals one piece of the key, this person would be able to eliminate all keys that don't have that piece from a brute force atack. To solve this, the key owner could create a simetric key to encript the backup key divide it and store it in pieces with the backup key, by doing this it makes harder for a person who steals one piece of the key to get info about the final key. Only when one steals all the pieces he would have the key to decript the backup key.
Since kripto-keys are basicly random numbers a force brute trying to decript onr piece of it would be useless, since the atacker won't have a way to check if the key is decriptet or not.
--
"take the red pill and you stay in wonderland and I'll show you how deep the rabitt hole goes"
I guess that the diference between your example is that the equations that are used to explaing the experiments that you listed are rather basic ones. As I understood the curve explained by the article is very complicated and would make sence that it would explain well just one specific experiment. But it did explained a lot more then expected, actualy it turn out the it could be a basic curve as well.
--
"take the red pill and you stay in wonderland and I'll show you how deep the rabitt hole goes"
I would just like to add that if the article is good enouth to pop in /. a second time, it is actualy good to it reapear since many people didn't seen it in the first time (the one that posted it the second time surely didn't). When the article recour it gives those people that lost the first apperance to see it.
--
"take the red pill and you stay in wonderland and I'll show you how deep the rabitt hole goes"
The simple fact that a person writen/recorded or created a news piece means that this news piece is biased by that person's point view. The most he can do is try to be unbiased. Unbiased jornalism is like a phisic problem where you ignore the friction to make things easy. And don't even think that you can get as close as you want to "unbiased".
In fact most of the time news agencies are realy biased, they have advertisers that they can't piss-off. They usualy have a editorial-line that they follow so they are usualy very-very biased.
All that said, I would like to add that slashdot-like news is the closer you can get to unbiased news. Still a biased (just look at MS discussions and you will see the bias flowing) source but at least you have thousand of diferent biases.
Well of course this is biased by my opinion that love slashdot.
--
"take the red pill and you stay in wonderland and I'll show you how deep the rabitt hole goes"
- I just wish that Mozilla don't lockup every window when trying to resolve a name.
- I just wish that wouldn't take 2 minutes to start and then just for fun two more minutes trying to resolve the names from the news and mail server (it don't even have a composer window open yet).
and yes I do have a nameserver sonfigured, but it's no use when the net is down and you want to use it in you personmal intranet.
--
"take the red pill and you stay in wonderland and I'll show you how deep the rabitt hole goes"
To me we should create a instant messaging protocol that would be secure (If I didn't gave permission to someone then someone can't have acess to my status), distribuited (why have only one server?), open source, multi-plataform (this shold be usable for mac, windows and all other OSes users too).
I think that it's rather easy to create it using existent protocols, HTTP for files and messages and irc for chat.
Is there something like this being developed?
--
"take the red pill and you stay in wonderland and I'll show you how deep the rabitt hole goes"
This is a hard subject, I don't think two diferent person agree in what exactly is art. So I will give my opinion. Art for me is more about emotions then only beauty. Code can be beautifull in a sense, but they hardly make the watcher fell something (unless the watcher is the coder, and the code won't work no matter what).
--
"take the red pill and you stay in wonderland and I'll show you how deep the rabitt hole goes"
But this don't make anything better, because in Brasil we use mainly US made applications witch means that most of our software is restricted to US laws of export. Off course that inteligent people can use GNU tools but most of the population just sticks to windows.
Other problem is that no one realy cares for crypto or privacy, as I stated before (in other post) we already have a unique ID for all citzens (not that is realy a trheat because the Brasil's goverment is very messy so I don't think they would be able to track everyone), and people here are more or less careless about their rigths. It's common for instance to give up a right so you don't have to create a mess.
So the situation here is that we can use it, but we don't actualy use it.
--
"take the red pill and you stay in wonderland and I'll show you how deep the rabitt hole goes"
Many, if not all of the other name are also icons that represent some event or ideology, shure some of the names realy made something big and some others didn't. But what realy matter is what they represent.
Linus today is the most recognized icon to free software and this is good to the cause. Icons helps people to focus the feelings they have about something (what do you hate, propietary software or Microsoft/Bill Gates?). I belive that when someone says "The hell with linus" what people would hear is actualy "The hell with open source/linux/free software", and this is not good.
I would ratter say Linus Rules
--
"take the red pill and you stay in wonderland and I'll show you how deep the rabitt hole goes"
Just like to remember that the tinkerability and accessability of linux would also make it easy for a service provider to add/remove features at request just by sending packages (rpm, deb, tgz or what ever) via ftp to the box. This packages could be signed, making it secure. I think this would be a lot harder (but not impossible) to implement in a closed windows environment.
--
"take the red pill and you stay in wonderland and I'll show you how deep the rabitt hole goes"
I agree with you this is not censorship, but it is defamation (is this a word?). In the act of blocking you site CyberPatrol is acusing you of having porn in your site, witch is a lie. The headhunter could thougth that the candidate did in fact have porn in his resumee and just forget about the candidate, instead he sent an email but this could happen.
--
"take the red pill and you stay in wonderland and I'll show you how deep the rabitt hole goes"
I don't know who moderated that message, but I think it should be labeled interesting or insightfull, most certanly not funny. The AC obove is compleatly correct. Well maybe not all parents actualy want to see the porn for them selves, but talking is the better way to convince them they should not look for porn in the net.
It's very easy to counter a blocking software, you simply access the porn from a friend's home or create a linux partition (I doubt most daddys won't be able to find that). The probition is actualy an incentive, the most hardly you say no, the most the you son you want to access it.
--
"take the red pill and you stay in wonderland and I'll show you how deep the rabitt hole goes"
You didn't got my idea. The computer would choose witch parts would be shown and with part would be hidden (to be revealed with a specific glass) by software.
--
"take the red pill and you stay in wonderland and I'll show you how deep the rabitt hole goes"
This is nice, but it would realy be nice if you could mask the contents of the screen so only part of the screen would be hidden. Now picture this, imagine if you could have n glasses and each would show diferent parts of the screen. This would must certainly would be nice for "hot seat" games, I don't know if it would have any other utilities. :-)
--
"take the red pill and you stay in wonderland and I'll show you how deep the rabitt hole goes"
Here in Brasil we aready have, not one but two "unique" Ids. The "Identity Card" and the "CPF" and for joing even a simple video rental we need to provide them both.
In the identity card we have a finger print and the finger prints are also stored in a central. So we already have a code-bar in our fingers. There is also a black-list of people that had the same check returned more than twice, those people cannot have checks or bank acounts.
--
"take the red pill and you stay in wonderland and I'll show you how deep the rabitt hole goes"
You seem to be forgetting that people usualy use applications and not OSes. If some company would port mac OS to the intel and give it for free, it would still have no application for it (unless it would emulate the apple processor, but this would be shure much slower then a real mac OS). The macOS clone would have to convince a lot of app makers (including apple itself) to port their apps for intel and maybe giving suport for it, and this is much harder then simply port code.
In my opinion this is the final obstacle to linux and what make OS/2 die. Linux is wining in this area since a lot of apps are realy getting ported.
--
"take the red pill and you stay in wonderland and I'll show you how deep the rabitt hole goes"
once you had to buy one turntable, one radio/amplifier, one K7 player all in separate boxes. Soon 3 in 1 boxes start appearing and now with cd we already have 4 in 1 stereos. It also happend to tv/vcr, some models integrate the two.
But you still can buy every peace in separate. I guess the same will happen to computer. And even the ones with integrated stuff could still be upgradable, simply when you connect a external video/sound/etc board the internal could be turned off.
--
"take the red pill and you stay in wonderland and I'll show you how deep the rabitt hole goes"
Just a little loose thought:
If a hacker is only a hacker when another hacker calls him as such then there are no real hackers, since the first hacker is a fraud since no hacker has called him a hacker.
--
"take the red pill and you stay in wonderland and I'll show you how deep the rabitt hole goes"