First, I'm not questioning how much they love their children. But it is still not their own lives. Do you have numbers on how many refuse it for themselves, and not their children ? I'm pretty sure the numbers will be much more different.
Well, so you are recomending your own software ? Bleh. I'll not even waste my time visiting the site until I see some good review about it on WebHostingTalk.
Wait, let me read between the oh so subtle lines... You think people are going to be migrating in droves to Linux? Give me a break, people won't be moving to Linux. They'll find a hack for Windows, they'll buy Windows, or more than likely they'll just buy a new PC that comes with Windows legally bundled. Nobody is moving to Linux because the games aren't there, the thousands of cheesy little Windows applications people love aren't there, it's different (read: scary), and it's a pain in the ass for most joe schmoes to install.
I wish what you were saying was true. Unfortunately, it is not. People will TRY migrating to Linux in droves. They will be unprepared and illdisposed(sic?) to do it, but will do anyway. Then, a few days later, they will learn about a hack, and will go back to Windows, and start telling everything bad things about their "experience" with Linux.
This can end up being a major marketing blow on Linux. I, for one, won't install Linux for anyone who decided to migrate because of that little WGA stunt. My answer will be: Wait for a hack or buy.
I can make a case for a lot of people who are not technically and psychologically prepared to speak freely, travel openly, etc... does not mean they should have to earn their intrinsic *rights*.
But since I don't agree that free speak and "owning a gun" are the same thing, or even that the later is an intrinsic right...
I mean, how owning "a man made tool that can automaticaly endanger the life of others" be considered an intrinsic right ? Yes, to defend oneself is an intrinsic right, but that is not about guns.
I agree that training of body and mind is paramount, but whether or not someone takes the precautions is completely up to the individual
Wait a moment. It is not up to me if my neighbor owns a gun and is completely umprepared to own it ? He is risking MY life too.
There's no reason to think that if it became tougher for law-abiding citizens to get guns, that it would be any harder for criminals to do so.
I happen to agree with you. We did have a country wide pool on a "gun ban law" a couple years ago, and I voted "no". My point is that when someone buys a gun, that gun is more likely to be useful for a criminal than for himself.
The single effect that disarming legitimate owners would have, or even making it substantially harder for legitimate citizens to obtain guns, would be to raise the ratio of guns owned by criminals to guns owned by law-abiding people. The numbers don't substantiate the legitimate-owners-supplying-crime arguement, at least in this country.
You are working from the premisse that a law-abiding person with a gun will not cause harm and will be able to stop criminals, which I simply don't agree. Also, that just by being law-abiding a person is prepared to use a gun, which I also don't agree.
Shooting ranges will prepare you to shoot paper targets, not people.
Also, your theory about criminals being more proficient with guns than most civilian gun owners is also false.
Are gun owners required to practice ? How is more prepared to take someone else's life, a criminal or a law-abiding person ? How about you ? I'm sure you are very good at shooting paper targets but, are you really prepared to draw a gun and shoot another human ? Without a single moment of doubt, which is more than enough time for the criminal to shoot you ?
I agree that owning a firearm carries with it a certain responsibility. However, where I disagree with you is that we should deny that responsibility to an otherwise law-abiding adult by default. In my country, our entire society is predicated on the assumption that everyone is worthy of a host of important responsibilities (including voting, serving in the military, drinking alcohol), if they haven't done anything to prove that they can't handle it. In geek terms, we've created a society that has "allow by default" as its basic policy with regards to its citizens. An adult who has not done anything wrong and is of normal intelligence and sound mind, should not have to prove their worthiness to some authority in order to own a gun. I have no problem denying this responsibility to people who have shown that they can't handle it (similarly, I have no problem denying to people who've demonstrated a propensity for violence many other rights that normal people enjoy, including life itself if the situation warrants it), but there's a key difference between a system that assumes that the average person is capable of making important decisions, including ones regaring gun ownership, and a system which assumes only a select few are capable or should be allowed this and other responsibilities.
Just because I'm law-abiding and sound of mind doesn't mean I'm psicologicaly prepared to have a gun. Or that I won't shoot the wrong person. Or that I won't draw the gun for trivial reasons (about to be stabbed by a spoon).
By the way, around here, if you live far enough from a police station (don't remember how far, but it is reasonable), you automaticaly qualify to owning a gun (provided no previous criminal record and such).
That is a problem. Prove to me that you have a real need for free speech. Prove to me that you have a right to privacy. Prove to me that you have a real need for any basic right. If you have to prove that you need them, then it may already be too late.
Wow. You completely missed the point. How hard is to prove that you really need a gun ? Lets see: - "I'm a truck driver, I drive late at night at low traffic roads" - "I'm a lawyer, judge etc" - "I'm a 24h shop owner that stay late at night on my shop" - "I'm a driver that transport valueable items, prone to be stolen"
It is not that hard to prove. IF you really need a gun.
But I also advocate that you have to prove that you are qualified to have a gun. That you won't, for example, shoot someone else besides the person that are attacking you, cause you can't aim or get nervous too easily.
Unfortunately, you can't outlaw stupidity. The best bet in this area is education. But the only group in America that does this type of education is the NRA, and they get attacked for it.
Even tho you can (and I do) call stupidity to buy a gun if you are not technicaly and psycologicaly prepared to have one (and shoot at someone else if needed), it goes farther than that.
Specially the psycological part. If you draw a gun against a criminal, you better shoot it. If you don't, you can be certainly he will shoot you, and maybe even your family. And make sure you don't miss. What are the odds of you managing to hit him, considering the you will be pretty nervous, with your family in danger ?
How many lives are the "gun owners" willing to risk ?
That is what I call irresponsibility. People who think just because they go to the shooting range twice a week are prepared to use a gun to defend oneself and family are in for a rude awakening. And if one finds it easy to shoot others, all the more reason he should NOT have a gun.
Someone else mentioned being stabbed by a spoon. Sure, I get the joke, but that is not far from the truth. More often than not, if one has a gun, he will use it to defend against spoons.
Actually, it doesn't. They are not a fundamental right in my country even. Don't get me wrong. You can still get a gun legaly. It is just not "shop, buy, done". You have to register it with the local authorities (police), have no criminal record and follow a few other rules. As long as you plan to keep your gun in your home, it is fairly straightforward. Carrying a gun is, on the other hand, much more complex. To get a carrying permit, you will have, among other things, to prove you have a real need for it.
Interesting enough, there some some studies around here that prove that more than 40% of the guns owned by criminals were stolen from people who legaly owned them. I don't have the exact number, but once I saw an article on a newspaper saying it was more than 70% (not that likely, tho). So you have to consider you are also providing the criminals with guns.
Add to that the fact that a criminal will be more proficient with a gun than 99% of the people how are being attacked, and that he is much more prone to shoot if he sees you too have a gun, and you even have a bit more of a mess.
I'm not against owning guns. I'm againt irresponsible gun ownership, which you have in most (all?) of the states in USA. So the first thing that comes to your mind about having a gun is "right" ? To me, the first thing is "responsibility".
I have a 54GL and I use it for lots of things myself. My question was intended to help me answer: should I get one of these as well?
That is easy to answer. Do you find the amount of flash or ram on your 54GL limiting ? Do you need USB ports ? If "yes", when you should get one of these.
DD-WRT ? Sorry. I use openwrt. Very modified, actually.
About additional capabilities. Double RAM (32), double flash (16), and USB ports.
These days, I use these MIPS based routers for lots of things. Including WiFi access point, but that is actually 10% of the use (at most). Firewalls, VPN servers, Asterisk servers, QoS bridges, security gateways, remote admin boxes (using USB-Serial adapters), backup servers etc etc. They are cheap, reliable and have VERY low power consumption. There are, of course, a few things I can't do with them (mail servers due to antispam and av, and a few other things that require too much memory). But the number of different things you can do with one of these babies is impressive.
What's the real point. Sure, the VXWorks version of the WRT54G is a little bit cheaper but, it has less memory, which limits its capabilities. The old Linux capable WRT54G is still available in the form of the WRT54GL so, why would anyone choose this route?
I have to second you on that one. Even WRT54GL is starting to get too small for my uses, and I'm planning on moving to a WRTSL54GS for more room.
According to the UN, that would be like US$1/day for each familly member. As a general rule, considering not every familly member work, it seems to be something like US$100/month. Seems too low ? Well, if you live in the USA, it is. On many countries, it is almost middle-class (considering 2 workers in each household).
Stipulating a world-wide minimum-wage is stupid. What would the the basis for it ? American salaries ? Stupid, since cost of living in USA is very high. Maybe we could use China as a basis for minimum-wage. I'm sure whoever made the suggestion (american maybe?) would be happy.
It is very easy to propose solutions when you don't understand anything about the problem.
I agree. That is why whenever I'm taking a plant, I always carry a bannana tree leaf behind my left ear. Statistically speaking, it is impossible for a plane, with a passenger using a bannana leaf behind his left ear, to crash.
Considering I have to save twice that amount of data daily, I'm not really that impressed. On the other hand, retrieving the data should be pretty fast when comparing to other medias that can handle that much data.
There is not far from the truth. Between Crossover Office and Cedega, I have been happy running anything from the MS world I need these days. Yes, it accounts for about 1% of the software I need to run, but it is still a reallity.
All consultant on my company (me included) are required by policy to read slashdot daily. It is considered an important part of the "staying up-to-date" methodology.
Actually, I can't write a single "Hello World" program in Java. I have people here that do that kind of programming. Maybe we are just working on projects so different that our experiences are oposite.
I really don't buy the "less buggy" argument either. I have heard it over and over again. Bad programmers will produce bad code, no matter the language, be it either asm or java. Also, it is easier to get bad programmers for "easy" languages.
I do understand the economical aspects. Specially when a PHB has to show a CEO that he can produce stuff faster.
What people seem to keep misunderstanding is that the "coding" part of the job is just a small part of the time required to produce good software. The planning and bugtracking takes much more time, or at least does if you want to have a good end product. And even if coding if easier and faster with Java/.NET etc, debugging is much more difficult, since you can trace the execution just so far.
So yes, if you want to produce "budget" software, Java/.NET is the best choice. If you want to produce "good" software, then you should go for C/C++. Not that it is not possible to produce good Java software or budget C++ software.
Yo, GP. Want to speed up java and everything else? Up to at least a gig of ram.
That is the kind of logic that really destroys the "Java idea" for me. So I have a program coded in C++ that will run perfectly on my 256MB system. But to use the exact same program coded in Java, I have to get a system with 1GB system.
Maybe on the they Java shops start shipping extra RAM cards with their software I'll think Java is a nice idea. Until them, I'll ALWAYS choose the compiled alternative.
And no, I don't care if the software itself costs 10 times more than the memory. It is still my money, and I don't enjoy seeing it wasted.
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First, I'm not questioning how much they love their children.
But it is still not their own lives.
Do you have numbers on how many refuse it for themselves, and not their children ?
I'm pretty sure the numbers will be much more different.
Well, so you are recomending your own software ? Bleh.
I'll not even waste my time visiting the site until I see some good review about it on WebHostingTalk.
I wish what you were saying was true. Unfortunately, it is not.
People will TRY migrating to Linux in droves. They will be unprepared and illdisposed(sic?) to do it, but will do anyway. Then, a few days later, they will learn about a hack, and will go back to Windows, and start telling everything bad things about their "experience" with Linux.
This can end up being a major marketing blow on Linux. I, for one, won't install Linux for anyone who decided to migrate because of that little WGA stunt. My answer will be: Wait for a hack or buy.
Maybe I missunderstood the law, but, as far as I know:
- A person is innocent until proven guilty in a court of law
So you are basially saying that you have the right to be the judge, juri and executor, is that it ?
But since I don't agree that free speak and "owning a gun" are the same thing, or even that the later is an intrinsic right
I mean, how owning "a man made tool that can automaticaly endanger the life of others" be considered an intrinsic right ? Yes, to defend oneself is an intrinsic right, but that is not about guns.
Wait a moment. It is not up to me if my neighbor owns a gun and is completely umprepared to own it ? He is risking MY life too.
I happen to agree with you. We did have a country wide pool on a "gun ban law" a couple years ago, and I voted "no". My point is that when someone buys a gun, that gun is more likely to be useful for a criminal than for himself.
You are working from the premisse that a law-abiding person with a gun will not cause harm and will be able to stop criminals, which I simply don't agree. Also, that just by being law-abiding a person is prepared to use a gun, which I also don't agree.
Shooting ranges will prepare you to shoot paper targets, not people.
Are gun owners required to practice ? How is more prepared to take someone else's life, a criminal or a law-abiding person ? How about you ? I'm sure you are very good at shooting paper targets but, are you really prepared to draw a gun and shoot another human ? Without a single moment of doubt, which is more than enough time for the criminal to shoot you ?
Just because I'm law-abiding and sound of mind doesn't mean I'm psicologicaly prepared to have a gun. Or that I won't shoot the wrong person. Or that I won't draw the gun for trivial reasons (about to be stabbed by a spoon).
By the way, around here, if you live far enough from a police station (don't remember how far, but it is reasonable), you automaticaly qualify to owning a gun (provided no previous criminal record and such).
Wow. You completely missed the point.
How hard is to prove that you really need a gun ? Lets see:
- "I'm a truck driver, I drive late at night at low traffic roads"
- "I'm a lawyer, judge etc"
- "I'm a 24h shop owner that stay late at night on my shop"
- "I'm a driver that transport valueable items, prone to be stolen"
It is not that hard to prove. IF you really need a gun.
But I also advocate that you have to prove that you are qualified to have a gun. That you won't, for example, shoot someone else besides the person that are attacking you, cause you can't aim or get nervous too easily.
Even tho you can (and I do) call stupidity to buy a gun if you are not technicaly and psycologicaly prepared to have one (and shoot at someone else if needed), it goes farther than that.
Specially the psycological part. If you draw a gun against a criminal, you better shoot it. If you don't, you can be certainly he will shoot you, and maybe even your family. And make sure you don't miss. What are the odds of you managing to hit him, considering the you will be pretty nervous, with your family in danger ?
How many lives are the "gun owners" willing to risk ?
That is what I call irresponsibility. People who think just because they go to the shooting range twice a week are prepared to use a gun to defend oneself and family are in for a rude awakening. And if one finds it easy to shoot others, all the more reason he should NOT have a gun.
Someone else mentioned being stabbed by a spoon. Sure, I get the joke, but that is not far from the truth. More often than not, if one has a gun, he will use it to defend against spoons.
Actually, it doesn't.
They are not a fundamental right in my country even.
Don't get me wrong. You can still get a gun legaly. It is just not "shop, buy, done". You have to register it with the local authorities (police), have no criminal record and follow a few other rules. As long as you plan to keep your gun in your home, it is fairly straightforward. Carrying a gun is, on the other hand, much more complex. To get a carrying permit, you will have, among other things, to prove you have a real need for it.
Interesting enough, there some some studies around here that prove that more than 40% of the guns owned by criminals were stolen from people who legaly owned them. I don't have the exact number, but once I saw an article on a newspaper saying it was more than 70% (not that likely, tho). So you have to consider you are also providing the criminals with guns.
Add to that the fact that a criminal will be more proficient with a gun than 99% of the people how are being attacked, and that he is much more prone to shoot if he sees you too have a gun, and you even have a bit more of a mess.
I'm not against owning guns. I'm againt irresponsible gun ownership, which you have in most (all?) of the states in USA. So the first thing that comes to your mind about having a gun is "right" ? To me, the first thing is "responsibility".
Can anyone give me (us?) some precise information on this novel ? Sounds interesting.
That is easy to answer. Do you find the amount of flash or ram on your 54GL limiting ? Do you need USB ports ? If "yes", when you should get one of these.
DD-WRT ? Sorry. I use openwrt. Very modified, actually.
About additional capabilities. Double RAM (32), double flash (16), and USB ports.
These days, I use these MIPS based routers for lots of things. Including WiFi access point, but that is actually 10% of the use (at most). Firewalls, VPN servers, Asterisk servers, QoS bridges, security gateways, remote admin boxes (using USB-Serial adapters), backup servers etc etc.
They are cheap, reliable and have VERY low power consumption.
There are, of course, a few things I can't do with them (mail servers due to antispam and av, and a few other things that require too much memory). But the number of different things you can do with one of these babies is impressive.
I have to second you on that one. Even WRT54GL is starting to get too small for my uses, and I'm planning on moving to a WRTSL54GS for more room.
According to the UN, that would be like US$1/day for each familly member.
As a general rule, considering not every familly member work, it seems to be something like US$100/month.
Seems too low ? Well, if you live in the USA, it is.
On many countries, it is almost middle-class (considering 2 workers in each household).
Stipulating a world-wide minimum-wage is stupid. What would the the basis for it ? American salaries ? Stupid, since cost of living in USA is very high. Maybe we could use China as a basis for minimum-wage. I'm sure whoever made the suggestion (american maybe?) would be happy.
It is very easy to propose solutions when you don't understand anything about the problem.
I agree. That is why whenever I'm taking a plant, I always carry a bannana tree leaf behind my left ear. Statistically speaking, it is impossible for a plane, with a passenger using a bannana leaf behind his left ear, to crash.
Considering I have to save twice that amount of data daily, I'm not really that impressed.
On the other hand, retrieving the data should be pretty fast when comparing to other medias that can handle that much data.
There is not far from the truth. Between Crossover Office and Cedega, I have been happy running anything from the MS world I need these days. Yes, it accounts for about 1% of the software I need to run, but it is still a reallity.
sed and awk! Who needs grep and cut anyway ?
That is an interesting comment. I have noticed for a long time now that women do like kde better than Gnome.
Even tho I'm not a woman, I'm married.
And my wife uses Linux all the time, and can't withstand Windows.
All consultant on my company (me included) are required by policy to read slashdot daily. It is considered an important part of the "staying up-to-date" methodology.
How come there were no filters in place ?
I mean, it is the taxpayers money that are paying for that computer, internet link and his time.
Yes, I know it is possible to circunvect those filter. But people who can circunvect filters are not likely to catch those trojans.
And a towel ! Can't forget a towel !
Actually, I can't write a single "Hello World" program in Java. I have people here that do that kind of programming.
Maybe we are just working on projects so different that our experiences are oposite.
I really don't buy the "less buggy" argument either. I have heard it over and over again. Bad programmers will produce bad code, no matter the language, be it either asm or java. Also, it is easier to get bad programmers for "easy" languages.
I do understand the economical aspects. Specially when a PHB has to show a CEO that he can produce stuff faster.
What people seem to keep misunderstanding is that the "coding" part of the job is just a small part of the time required to produce good software. The planning and bugtracking takes much more time, or at least does if you want to have a good end product. And even if coding if easier and faster with Java/.NET etc, debugging is much more difficult, since you can trace the execution just so far.
So yes, if you want to produce "budget" software, Java/.NET is the best choice. If you want to produce "good" software, then you should go for C/C++. Not that it is not possible to produce good Java software or budget C++ software.
That is the kind of logic that really destroys the "Java idea" for me.
So I have a program coded in C++ that will run perfectly on my 256MB system. But to use the exact same program coded in Java, I have to get a system with 1GB system.
Maybe on the they Java shops start shipping extra RAM cards with their software I'll think Java is a nice idea. Until them, I'll ALWAYS choose the compiled alternative.
And no, I don't care if the software itself costs 10 times more than the memory. It is still my money, and I don't enjoy seeing it wasted.