>>the athlon will smoke the apple in perfomance, but the apple will smoke the athlon in usability>>
Thank you. For many of us, that's the point. For those of us who use computers as tools to make money, that's always been the point.
Focusing on abstract hardware capabilities is missing the point. In business, anyway.
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It was a joke. Sorry for the confusion. Yeesh.
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>>Microsoft still has a long way to go to reach full n-tier architecture with a full fledged persistence engine and generalized stateful session framework.>>
I'm getting the hell out of here before I start to understand that sentence. Holy shit.
Yes, they were testing a "highly targeted, niche application". That's the point. Does it run Apache (or whatever) faster than the machines it beat in these tests? Who knows? Who cares? These tests were for these functions in these applications, period. They were faster, period. If you do these things all day (and many people do) Apple has a lot of bang for the buck. It's irrelevant whether Xinet optimizes better for Apple. What's not irrelevant is how many pages for how many dollars. Got it?
Exactly. I believe that Apple's goal is more to complete their media software strategy than anything else. This is the one iApp that's been missing. They're trying to create the perfect media platform (tightly integrated hardware and software, consistent fit and finish and interoperability in software, client and server side) in hopes that more people will choose that more polished, integrated platform. I think they have a good shot at it.
Logic will be improved by having Apple help integrate it with OS X and the other media apps. It will be better than it is now, and there will likely be a reduced-functionality free version a la iMovie. A win for those who use Logic on Macs already, and a win for those who already use Macs and would like to start playing with audio.
My guess is that killing Windows development is less about cutting off Windows users than about avoiding the greater support costs for a platform that makes no money for Apple.
At any rate, companies buy other companies and change their charter all the time. MS is famous for this. Get over it.
Isn't just Alvin Lee anymore. So we may finally have an OSS version of something that's been around for over a decade. Quicktime, I mean. Good, great. But in the real world, nobody cares. In the real world, first counts. First by ten years counts a lot. We'd all like to see OSS be a real contender, if for no other reason than to keep the big boys on their toes, but c'mon. If you think this means anything to anyone outside of a small circle of ubergeeks, you're kidding yourselves.
Maybe it's just me, but I think OSS is never really going to matter until they do it first, not second, and certainly not 10 years after. Real innovation, not catch-up. There are a lot of bright people in OSS, why are they always following, never leading? Seriously.
Where does it end? Maybe I shouldn't have bought a Mac because it doesn't accept oiled punched paper tape as input and I can't attach my 300 baud acoustic coupler to it for networking. Yeesh.
All these complaints about the dome are typical of what happens when you look at a picture of something in place of actually sitting down and using it. In use, I can't see the dome; all I see is the screen, keyboard and mouse, which is all I need (or want) to see. And the ergonomic benefits of the easily adjustable screen make this the most comfortable computer I've ever used, period.
And that's in 25 years of using computers every day.
Isn't that the very definition of a double agent? Looks like one thing on the outside, another on the inside? Fun to think that this might have been deliberate, but who knows?
Dell, Compaq and Gateway 17" screens are shit. Utter shit. I've seen them. And if you can't configure an Indigo iMac so that it functions acceptably (hardcore types know how to make lesser Macs scream) then you need to get educated or go away.
I'm so tired of these trolls/astroturfers/morons...
>>I think that this may be due to some strange Japanese obsession with anything American.>>
I actually think it might have something to do with the zenlike simplicity of these early machines, both in hardware and software. This was before feature bloat, color, the corruption of the interface due to too much cross-platform integration, etc. Simple single box, simple software (that one could actually master in a relatively short period of time) much more coherent experience overall. Japanese culture loves complexity in some ways, but has always revered simplicity.
Not an SE/30, man. No no no. It's too cool a machine, too iconic, too useful still, just too -- I don't know, it's just not right to gut an SE/30. I can't explain why.
Keep booting it. Just to piss people off and freak them out. Use it once in awhile for a few minutes. Aaarrgh. I'm becoming incoherent. Just don't kill it for fish.
A: TCO is and always has been better on Macs than on PCs of any stripe. Endless independent studies have shown this. Gartner particularly. Google it.
B: Am I the only one who noticed that the faceplate of the Vaio is a dead ringer (color, shape, etc.) for the older G4 faceplates? Too close to be accidental? Hmmn....
People who had a clue solved that one pretty quickly, though. Just make a disk image of the floppy on a Mac that has a floppy, email it (or ftp or whatever) and mount it on the desktop. PITA, but works fine.
BTW, I've used XPress since its inception, and I hate it. I hope InDesign kills it fscking dead.
Ok, I got one for The History Channel. It's 1990, maybe 1991, a friend of mine and I both have Telebit T2500's. $1,100.00 apiece (No I'm not rich and neither is he, our companies bought them). Talking to each other we could do 19,200 when everything else was 9600 max. The thing was bigger than a laptop, and the most programmable modem on the planet. Manual was over an inch thick and the thing had hundreds of programmable registers. Read like an episode of The Twilight Zone, every register had a dozen variables, each of which was dependent on the settings of the dozens of variables in other registers, which were in turn...you get the idea. We'd stay up all night in our respective offices trying different combinations, phoning each other with the register settings, trying to connect at 19,200 (full-duplex), phoning again....I realized I was getting punchy when I dropped my pen and hit Cmd-z to get it back (Yes, for the record, I was on a Mac IIfx). I still have the thing in a closet somewhere.
The last modem I owned cost $89.00 (USR X2, which, as far as I recall I flash-upgraded to V.90) and worked out of the box. Now I'm on DSL at about 100 KB/s with a homebrew Software Base Station under OSX running to an Orinoco card in a PBG3 that hangs out in the living room.
Don't make me tell you about all the fun I had with 300 baud acoustic couplers and 8-level paper tape....
You've got a point, but if they don't sell, they won't keep making them. Then they stop losing money. I'm looking far a way to steadily drain cash out of the bastards indefinitely.
As a friend of mine used to say, "In the long run, it's the long run that counts."
Anyway, I was kind of kidding, pal. But "kidding on the square", as my dear old mom would put it.
Microsoft was already losing money on the gizmo at the original price. They accepted this as the price for breaking into a new -- and potentially -- very lucrative market. At the Australian price, they are taking a sitz bath in hydrochloric acid.
Somebody, please, find a friend in Australia, have them buy the units at AUS prices, set up an ad-hoc dealership here, advertise, to make sure everyone knows they can have the unit for almost half-off, and drain those bastards on margin till they fscking bleeding die.
I will donate time to whoever does this. Let their own greed kill them. Then we can all install *nix on the little xboxen, and reslant Netcraft stats.
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>>the athlon will smoke the apple in perfomance, but the apple will smoke the athlon in usability>>
Thank you. For many of us, that's the point. For those of us who use computers as tools to make money, that's always been the point.
Focusing on abstract hardware capabilities is missing the point. In business, anyway.
It was a joke. Sorry for the confusion. Yeesh.
>>Microsoft still has a long way to go to reach full n-tier architecture with a full fledged persistence engine and generalized stateful session framework.>>
I'm getting the hell out of here before I start to understand that sentence. Holy shit.
I've only read "Sputnik Sweetheart", but his style and the resulting atmosphere reminds me much, much more of Thomas Disch than Dick.
Oh, and anyone who thinks Dick doesn't have a wicked sense of humor might want to go back and re-read his stuff.
Yes, they were testing a "highly targeted, niche application". That's the point. Does it run Apache (or whatever) faster than the machines it beat in these tests? Who knows? Who cares? These tests were for these functions in these applications, period. They were faster, period. If you do these things all day (and many people do) Apple has a lot of bang for the buck. It's irrelevant whether Xinet optimizes better for Apple. What's not irrelevant is how many pages for how many dollars. Got it?
No, Schmuck. They work faster period.
Aaaarrrggh.
Exactly. I believe that Apple's goal is more to complete their media software strategy than anything else. This is the one iApp that's been missing. They're trying to create the perfect media platform (tightly integrated hardware and software, consistent fit and finish and interoperability in software, client and server side) in hopes that more people will choose that more polished, integrated platform. I think they have a good shot at it.
Logic will be improved by having Apple help integrate it with OS X and the other media apps. It will be better than it is now, and there will likely be a reduced-functionality free version a la iMovie. A win for those who use Logic on Macs already, and a win for those who already use Macs and would like to start playing with audio.
My guess is that killing Windows development is less about cutting off Windows users than about avoiding the greater support costs for a platform that makes no money for Apple.
At any rate, companies buy other companies and change their charter all the time. MS is famous for this. Get over it.
Isn't just Alvin Lee anymore. So we may finally have an OSS version of something that's been around for over a decade. Quicktime, I mean. Good, great. But in the real world, nobody cares. In the real world, first counts. First by ten years counts a lot. We'd all like to see OSS be a real contender, if for no other reason than to keep the big boys on their toes, but c'mon. If you think this means anything to anyone outside of a small circle of ubergeeks, you're kidding yourselves.
Maybe it's just me, but I think OSS is never really going to matter until they do it first, not second, and certainly not 10 years after. Real innovation, not catch-up. There are a lot of bright people in OSS, why are they always following, never leading? Seriously.
Where does it end? Maybe I shouldn't have bought a Mac because it doesn't accept oiled punched paper tape as input and I can't attach my 300 baud acoustic coupler to it for networking. Yeesh.
Someone, please mod the above up, +1, Funny. The rest of you can go back to prying Celine Dion discs out of your drives.
Microsoft sold that stock some time ago, and made a nice profit on it. They currently don't own any Apple stock.
All these complaints about the dome are typical of what happens when you look at a picture of something in place of actually sitting down and using it. In use, I can't see the dome; all I see is the screen, keyboard and mouse, which is all I need (or want) to see. And the ergonomic benefits of the easily adjustable screen make this the most comfortable computer I've ever used, period.
And that's in 25 years of using computers every day.
If you mean "dead from the neck up", plenty of times.
>>This person is using windows. Notice that they say 'folder' as opposed to 'directory'>>
Not necessarily. The term "folder' predates Windows 95 by many years on the Mac.
Isn't that the very definition of a double agent? Looks like one thing on the outside, another on the inside? Fun to think that this might have been deliberate, but who knows?
So what you're saying is the the only hope for mankind is a guy who can type 120 wpm?
Or should the Matrix not have turned "Direct Flying" on by default in the current release?
Dell, Compaq and Gateway 17" screens are shit. Utter shit. I've seen them. And if you can't configure an Indigo iMac so that it functions acceptably (hardcore types know how to make lesser Macs scream) then you need to get educated or go away.
I'm so tired of these trolls/astroturfers/morons...
>>I think that this may be due to some strange Japanese obsession with anything American.>>
I actually think it might have something to do with the zenlike simplicity of these early machines, both in hardware and software. This was before feature bloat, color, the corruption of the interface due to too much cross-platform integration, etc. Simple single box, simple software (that one could actually master in a relatively short period of time) much more coherent experience overall. Japanese culture loves complexity in some ways, but has always revered simplicity.
Not an SE/30, man. No no no. It's too cool a machine, too iconic, too useful still, just too -- I don't know, it's just not right to gut an SE/30. I can't explain why.
Keep booting it. Just to piss people off and freak them out. Use it once in awhile for a few minutes. Aaarrgh. I'm becoming incoherent. Just don't kill it for fish.
Where's my beer...?
A: TCO is and always has been better on Macs than on PCs of any stripe. Endless independent studies have shown this. Gartner particularly. Google it.
B: Am I the only one who noticed that the faceplate of the Vaio is a dead ringer (color, shape, etc.) for the older G4 faceplates? Too close to be accidental? Hmmn....
The two high-end TiBooks come with the Airport card included.
People who had a clue solved that one pretty quickly, though. Just make a disk image of the floppy on a Mac that has a floppy, email it (or ftp or whatever) and mount it on the desktop. PITA, but works fine.
BTW, I've used XPress since its inception, and I hate it. I hope InDesign kills it fscking dead.
Ok, I got one for The History Channel. It's 1990, maybe 1991, a friend of mine and I both have Telebit T2500's. $1,100.00 apiece (No I'm not rich and neither is he, our companies bought them). Talking to each other we could do 19,200 when everything else was 9600 max. The thing was bigger than a laptop, and the most programmable modem on the planet. Manual was over an inch thick and the thing had hundreds of programmable registers. Read like an episode of The Twilight Zone, every register had a dozen variables, each of which was dependent on the settings of the dozens of variables in other registers, which were in turn...you get the idea. We'd stay up all night in our respective offices trying different combinations, phoning each other with the register settings, trying to connect at 19,200 (full-duplex), phoning again....I realized I was getting punchy when I dropped my pen and hit Cmd-z to get it back (Yes, for the record, I was on a Mac IIfx). I still have the thing in a closet somewhere.
The last modem I owned cost $89.00 (USR X2, which, as far as I recall I flash-upgraded to V.90) and worked out of the box. Now I'm on DSL at about 100 KB/s with a homebrew Software Base Station under OSX running to an Orinoco card in a PBG3 that hangs out in the living room.
Don't make me tell you about all the fun I had with 300 baud acoustic couplers and 8-level paper tape....
You've got a point, but if they don't sell, they won't keep making them. Then they stop losing money. I'm looking far a way to steadily drain cash out of the bastards indefinitely.
As a friend of mine used to say, "In the long run, it's the long run that counts."
Anyway, I was kind of kidding, pal. But "kidding on the square", as my dear old mom would put it.
Microsoft was already losing money on the gizmo at the original price. They accepted this as the price for breaking into a new -- and potentially -- very lucrative market. At the Australian price, they are taking a sitz bath in hydrochloric acid.
Somebody, please, find a friend in Australia, have them buy the units at AUS prices, set up an ad-hoc dealership here, advertise, to make sure everyone knows they can have the unit for almost half-off, and drain those bastards on margin till they fscking bleeding die.
I will donate time to whoever does this. Let their own greed kill them. Then we can all install *nix on the little xboxen, and reslant Netcraft stats.
Just a drunken daydream from a CG veteran...